Editing Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 11

== I feel like I'm missing something. ==

There's no Arrow'd Guy in this ep. It's like a staple of the series has been neglected. So sad... {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 14:26, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
: Now that I think about it, this is the first TGS not to include Tompkins since he was introduced as well. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

: Maybe they are creating new inside jokes since it is the 11th issue.  Maybe they will use a maniac in a speedo and the spaceman in later issues.  -  [[User:Jhonka|Jonka]]
::According to the minor characters page, this episode introduced more new minor characters than any other one. I guess they just didn't have room/forgot/didn't care. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 03:04, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
:::It indicates the strength of the TGS series that they don't need to rely this much on recurring characters. After the "jumping the shark" hints in episode 10, I'm relieved that they've been able to move on. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:13, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

== Leet Speak ==

Does anyone else think Cheerleader's line "Your stepmom is teh fascist" counts as [[Internet Slang|leet speak]]? I'm not sure if I should add it as a fact. --[[User:Bobmario2|Bobmario2]] 03:59, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
:Nope, just counts as a misspelling of 'the'. {{User:NFITC1/sig}}
:I disagree. I believe that "teh" is common internet slang/leet speek. Also, the use of such language is common in Teen Girl Squad past. &mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 06:37, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, I use "teh" all the time, as in "teh coolness", "gimme teh cookies", etc. While it isn't leet according to leet's definition (random numbers inserted, which would make teh t3h, which I also see a lot), it is internet slang. --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]

== So-and-so smokes?!?! ==

Like no one on the site smokes and actually mentions it!--{{User:Finest1/sig}} 12:19, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

:Have you read the article [[Smoking]]? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 12:47, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

:Really though I doubt that she was smoking before she got into prison. She probably picked up the habit while she was doing hard time. B)

== First Basing ==

Is it possible that the name of the camp could also be a referrence to all of the TGSers ultimate goal...getting to first base with a boy?
:Could be. That would mirror the name of the boys' camp: tgs want to get to first base, the boys want cosplay. But what does the "wassa" stand for? {{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:49, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
::There are two other baseball references in the toon. Maybe they're related. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:51, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Interesting. Maybe they are connected, or maybe it's just a coincidence.--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:40, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I thought it was a ref to "Wassamatta U". [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 06:53, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Sounds to me like a parody of stereotypical pseudo-Native American naming conventions for summer camps.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 00:27, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
:I've added this as an inside reference to [[Making Out]]. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:44, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

== Page Title ==

Does anyone know what's with the page title of "Eleven Division Titles"? It just seems so random... --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:37, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah. It's in the Fun Facts section. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:49, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

== Mary Kate picture... ==

How in the WORLD did anyone find this out? I'm stunned. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 14:33, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
:See [[User talk:It's dot com#Olsen Twin'd!!|Olsen Twin'd!!]] on my talk page. Not to give anything away, but it might also be a good idea to click "edit" next to that section and look at the code. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:52, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

==Ringtones?==
Do we really need that fun fact explaining what a ringtone is?  I'd say stuff it.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 01:49, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
:I deleted it. Ringtones are common knowledge. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:59, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

==Their throats gotta be hurtin' after that one...==
Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the highest note anyone's ever hit on the website? --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 12:56, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
:Let's ask one of those music nuts we have around here sometimes. =) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::That's a high F. And probably ya. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:09, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
:::More thoughts here. I just heard Kelly Clarkson's "Since U Been Gone" again, and her highest note is a G, one whole step above this one. Unless Matt used a pitch changer to hit the note (and I somehow doubt he would have) it's actually quite a feat. Considering the low C or so Strong Bad's sung I-forget-where, and this note, that's about a three-and-a-half octave range, which is nothing short of incredible. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:01, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Are you talking about the Chumbly Wumbly Bear song?  Cuz that's falsetto (as are TGS voices in general).  However, my throat did hurt after attempting to sing along. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 04:52, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Whether it's falsetto or not, it's amazing. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:58, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

== Shortshorts ==

Has anyone else noticed that Camp Counselor Shortshorts really, REALLY looks like Richard Simmons? {{unsigned|Plaingoldrin|01:34 July 28, 2006 (UTC)}}

:Now that you mention it, he does. {{User:Salty/sig}} 06:46, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
::Someone had already put that in as a real-world reference at same stage. I reverted it because simply having curly hair and wearing short shorts does not make a Richard Simmons. It would have helped if he'd also wear the trademark sports shirt, but even then the counselor might still be a generic sports character. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:33, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

== Canoe Error ==

In the canoe, Cheerleader and The Ugly one were facing each other.  This is an error: in rowboats the two passengers face each other because the front person (facing the rear) has both oars, and pulls to move the boat forward; in canoes both passengers face front as both hold one paddle. --[[User:Saxonjf|Saxonjf]] 00:57, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

:Nicely spotted. Next time dare and put it on the page itself, not the talk page :-D I've put it in as a remark for now, but maybe it really is a goof.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:06, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

==Rubble D, where my smokes at?==

No one will read this all down here and so long after the 'toon, but you think TBC naming whoever it is Rubble D has anything to do with the popular cartoon Ed, Edd and Eddy, in which a character is named Double D? Deserves a tiny reference.

:It's possible, but to me anyway it's not really close enough for a main toon page mention. It is an interesting observation though, thanks for noting it here! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:09, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

== The diabetes "trivia" is wrong ==

I'm not sure if this is the place to discuss this, but the "trivia" about the racoon probably having diabetes is way off base.  Diabetics *never* take 17 shots at a time, and a diabetic will go into a coma much sooner from too much insulin (ie 17 shots) than from not enough.  It's much more likely a reference to either:

1. nothing at all other than a weird bunkmate

2. rabies shots - given that racoons often carry rabies and there is a long series of shots to attempt to treat a patient infected with rabies.  Rabies is a neurological disease and could potentially produce a coma, among other things.

Anyone have any opposition to me changing this "trivia"?

Dr. T

:It's possible this refers to rabies or any of a number of other problems. I'd support removing it on TTATOT grounds. And BTW, this is exactly the place to discuss this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:It think it more likely to be a reference to, and, at the same time, lampooning diabetes, since racoon girl is also listless and weak.  I realize that not all diabets are listless and weak, but it is a common view of them.  I think it should be left in.  Besides, rabies innoculations would be made by doctors, and rabies doesn't lead directly to a coma. --[[User:Saxonjf|Saxonjf]] 02:16, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

== Uggs vs. Ug ==

Anyone else out there catch that "Ug" was the nickname of the camp counselor the campers harassed in the Nickelodeon show Salute Your Shorts? Cheerleader asks if "Ugs" has one G (which could reference Ug the counselor) or two (referencing Uggs boots). - [[User:WaveOBabies|WaveOBabies]] 03:04, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
: I think it's just a coincidence. "Uggs" is just short for "[[The Ugly One]]". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:05, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

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=== Out of line ===
{{stufffact|The notebook paper in the frame of the toon and outside of the frame do not match up.}}
{{stuffverdict|19:55, 17 July 2006 (UTC)|17:24, 30 July 2006 (UTC)|accepted|25|9|Teen Girl Squad Issue 11}}

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=== Not Quite The Right Voice ===
{{stufffact|In the beginning, Cheerleader's voice is not even close to how it usually sounds. This could be due to how long it was since Issue 10 was made.}}
{{stuffverdict|16:33, 21 July 2006 (UTC)|18:39, 25 July 2006 (UTC)|unanimously declined|12|0|Teen Girl Squad Issue 11}}

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=== You my wingman ===
{{stufffact|In this context, a [[Wikipedia:Wingman (social)|wingman]] is a person who assists a friend in approaching a member of the opposite sex.}}
{{stuffverdict|14:49, 20 July 2006 (UTC)|18:39, 25 July 2006 (UTC)|unanimously accepted|14|0|Teen Girl Squad Issue 11}}

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=== Braves Win! Braves Win! ===
{{stufffact|The page title "11 Division Titles!" likely refers to the [[Wikipedia:Atlanta Braves|Atlanta Braves]], who, at the time of the toon, had won 11 consecutive division titles.}}
{{stuffverdict|16:56, 17 July 2006 (UTC)|18:49, 18 July 2006 (UTC)|nigh onto unanimously accepted (the lone dissenting vote was due to dislike for the specific team)|21|1|Teen Girl Squad Issue 11}}
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 ::::Are you talking about the Chumbly Wumbly Bear song?  Cuz that's falsetto (as are TGS voices in general).  However, my throat did hurt after attempting to sing along. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 04:52, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
 :::::Whether it's falsetto or not, it's amazing. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:58, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
-::::::The low C was in Teen Girl Squad 9, I believe, in the verse "And the crazy learner's permit girl gave me a ride to Babbage's". So now that we've established this is the highest note ever hit on the website, should we mark it somewhere on the page? --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 22:07, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 == Shortshorts ==
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 :Now that you mention it, he does. {{User:Salty/sig}} 06:46, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 ::Someone had already put that in as a real-world reference at same stage. I reverted it because simply having curly hair and wearing short shorts does not make a Richard Simmons. It would have helped if he'd also wear the trademark sports shirt, but even then the counselor might still be a generic sports character. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:33, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
-I'm gonna go a little further. I don't think Shortshorts looks like Richard Simmons it all. I think, if he looks like anybody, he's got an odd resemblance to Matt Chapman. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:46, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 == Canoe Error ==
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 Anyone have any opposition to me changing this "trivia"?
-Dr. T--[[User:Eowyn 2|Eowyn 2]]
+Dr. T
 :It's possible this refers to rabies or any of a number of other problems. I'd support removing it on TTATOT grounds. And BTW, this is exactly the place to discuss this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
 :It think it more likely to be a reference to, and, at the same time, lampooning diabetes, since racoon girl is also listless and weak.  I realize that not all diabets are listless and weak, but it is a common view of them.  I think it should be left in.  Besides, rabies innoculations would be made by doctors, and rabies doesn't lead directly to a coma. --[[User:Saxonjf|Saxonjf]] 02:16, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
-::The idea that TBC lampoon diabetes is too far a stretch for me. There should be, in no manner, any lanmguage in this wiki which "lampoons" any population based on factors beyond their control. nor which identifies any such "lampooning" in TBC's work without clear evidence. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:25, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
-::I deal with diabetics on a daily basis, and I have never even heard of the "common view" that diabetics are listless and weak.  It's a TTATOT and nothing more.--[[User:Eowyn 2|Eowyn 2]] 22:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 == Uggs vs. Ug ==
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 {{stufffact|The page title "11 Division Titles!" likely refers to the [[Wikipedia:Atlanta Braves|Atlanta Braves]], who, at the time of the toon, had won 11 consecutive division titles.}}
 {{stuffverdict|16:56, 17 July 2006 (UTC)|18:49, 18 July 2006 (UTC)|nigh onto unanimously accepted (the lone dissenting vote was due to dislike for the specific team)|21|1|Teen Girl Squad Issue 11}}
-== Indie rock bear! ==
-ANyone else think the chumbly wumbly bear could be a referance to the indie rock band Chumbawumba besides me? - Alex H.
-:[[Wikipedia:Chumbawamba|Chumbawamba]]?  Nah.&nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:45, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
-== Huh? ==
-Which came first-the Short Shorts or the Shortshorts?
--Alex H.
-:Wish I knew what you were asking. Can you be more specific? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:15, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
-:Oh, I think I might know. Teen girl squad 11 came before Summer Short Shorts.  About a week, or maybe two. I hope that answers your question.  - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 02:27, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
-== I feel like i can remember camp counseler short-shorts. ==
-When I was at summer camp the week this cartoon came out, there was a camp counselor that had really short shorts. I just thought that was funny. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 02:32, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
-== Sho-o-oplifting? ==
-*What's Her Face's title card in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4|TGS4]] says "shop lifting?".  I'm not sure if that qualifies as a reference, though, and if it did, how would you phrase it? [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 23:01, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
-== Squiggly Lines ==
-Are the Squiggly lines behind the bus smog, or the road? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 20:31, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
-:Looks to me like it's burning rubber. Y'know, how tyres squeal and turn up smoke when they tear off really fast? Or dust clouds. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
-== 2d vs 3d ==
-If you look, What's her Face's sleeping bag if rolled out would be a 2d rectangle while if you rolled out Cheerleader's or So and So's, it would be 3d {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 21:02, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
-:Oh!  When I reverted that I wasn't sure what you meant, and they both looked 3D. I understand now. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 21:40, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
-== Baloneym'n ==
-There should be a flash forward or look ahead to The Baloneyman right? Something like
-"Warbly was later used in the short The Baloneyman where Homestar says "warbly theme song" just like the girls singing a "warbly campfire song
-- I'm not a registered user, this is about as good a signing as I can do
-:I don't think the use of a word in a similar context is enough to warrant a Fast Forward. And anyone can sign, registered or no, by typing four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:49, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
-== Birdman of TGS? ==
-Could the bird-footed prisoner be a nod to the movie "[[Wikipedia:Birdman of Alcatraz (film)|Birdman of Alcatraz]]?" --Too Lazy to Login...