Talk:Neon 404'd
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403'd!! (Ow! My permissions!)
*When browsing directly to a domain sub-directory (e.g. www.homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/), instead of the expected 404'd page an HTTP 403 authorization error is displayed.
This is not a Goof or even much of an oddity. This is very distinct from the (legitimate) Goof that is found on the old 404'd page. It just means that TBC didn't make a "403'd!!" page. (For reference, if the old Goof was still in play, this link would not display properly.) --Jay (Talk) 05:53, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
- It's definitely not a goof of the page itself but it's still an issue with the 404 system as a whole. I don't know of a better place to document it that this page. As for a 403, it can just redirect to the 404 page as well. In any case, it's still a goof (or a bug) of sorts so I think it should be documented on the wiki. --Stux 14:56, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
- I don't see how it's a Goof or a bug, as 403 and 404 indicate completely different things. Whatever the case, if it is a "Goof" of sorts, it's not TBC's fault. We typically have a rule against mentioning Flash artifacts (things inherent in Flash that TBC have no control over), so why mention an HTML protocol... I can't even in good faith call it an "artifact" because it's not a bug... an HTML protocol feature? --Jay (Talk) 19:05, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
- I think your argument confuses technical aspects with functional aspects. What I'm talking about is the functionality of the website as a whole and TBC *do* have control of such aspects. That's in fact what this 404 redirect page is for: it's designed so that users don't get a boring 404 page that looks just like the 403 page that they're getting. I doubt it was TBC's intention for that 403 page to look the way that it does now. So I think it's a thing that can and should be documented on the wiki. --Stux 20:45, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
- I can't say I agree, and think noting something like this to be entirely unprecedented and fairly pointless. This fact was originally an edit of a fact concerning a very real bug regarding the old 404 page that no longer applies. Does anyone else have any input? --Jay (Talk) 13:12, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
- I too, would like to hear everyone else's input on the matter. I don't think this item is as pointless as you say it is, especially given how much attention to detail we give to all other aspects of the site and its toons. --Stux 16:10, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
- I can't say I agree, and think noting something like this to be entirely unprecedented and fairly pointless. This fact was originally an edit of a fact concerning a very real bug regarding the old 404 page that no longer applies. Does anyone else have any input? --Jay (Talk) 13:12, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
- I think your argument confuses technical aspects with functional aspects. What I'm talking about is the functionality of the website as a whole and TBC *do* have control of such aspects. That's in fact what this 404 redirect page is for: it's designed so that users don't get a boring 404 page that looks just like the 403 page that they're getting. I doubt it was TBC's intention for that 403 page to look the way that it does now. So I think it's a thing that can and should be documented on the wiki. --Stux 20:45, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
- I don't see how it's a Goof or a bug, as 403 and 404 indicate completely different things. Whatever the case, if it is a "Goof" of sorts, it's not TBC's fault. We typically have a rule against mentioning Flash artifacts (things inherent in Flash that TBC have no control over), so why mention an HTML protocol... I can't even in good faith call it an "artifact" because it's not a bug... an HTML protocol feature? --Jay (Talk) 19:05, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
URL
Do we know what the URL for this page is? I get that 404error.html is the previous 404'd page's URL, but until recently, "apagethatdoesntexist.html" would have led to that 404 error page (as would neon404d, which links to the Neon 404'd page now just like apagethatdoesntexist does). I held off asking until I realized that it is used in another place on the wiki. How is it determined what the actual URL is? 
The Knights Who Say Ni 
23:42, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
- This is a question that may not have an easy answer. Unlike most custom 404 solutions, this one does not provide a redirect to a permanent page. For example, the source for this page has the same content as "apagethatdoesntexist.html" and it isn't trying to redirect to any page. --Stux 23:47, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
