Editing Talk:Lappy 486

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==PINE==
Strong Bad's up-to-date email program looks suspiciously like PINE (PINE Is Not Elm).  PINE is one of the older old-school email clients on UNIX networks such as university shell accounts.

-- The official acronym for PINE is Program for Internet News and Email.

:I was thinking the same thing. Compare it to [http://sv1.letmehost.com/sv1/13/sb_pine.png this] screenshot. '''Linux'''erist [[User:Linuxerist|L]] / [[User_talk:Linuxerist|T]] 18:11, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

== Contrast ==

Do you think that perhaps the contrast knob will be added to the Lappy later on? I mean, maybe they just forgot to put it in. In any case, I liked the contrast thing (although the LCD liquid effect is pretty dang cool).

*Probably not. Most laptops I've seen don't have contrast knobs (though my knowledge of ancient laptops is pretty non-existant). --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 15:00, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
**I have an ancient laptop... probably closer to a Lappy 286 than a Lappy 486.  It has no contrast, but it does have brightness which would basically just make the backlight brighter or darker.  Even at its brightest, it's nowhere near bright enough unless all the lights are out.  So theoretically this could be added, but I have a feeling they're gonna leave it as just the LCD effect.  --[[User:jtickle|jtickle]] 23:45, 29 Nov 204 (EST)
***I've used several laptops, and I have never seen a contrast setting on any of them. I think it's a setting specific to the electron guns used in CRT monitors. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:10, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
****I've used a Toshiba 286 laptop with a blue LCD screen.  It definately had a constrast knob, it was on the side of the computer.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 17:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*****Then I was wrong, which wouldn't be the first time that's happened. Thanks. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 20:37, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**Perhaps more relevent, the original Gateway Colorbook had a 486, color screen, and a contrast knob which had the interesting property of being able to invert the color like a photographic negative if you went too far in the wrong direction. --Anonymous
***I, too, really like the LCD effect when I click on Lappy's screen. Probably because I imagine SB has to clean all those "fingerprints!" -- anonymous lurker 12:14, 13 Dec (PST
*I personally don't think that TBC will bother adding contrast knobs.  I mean, what realy purpose were they in the first place besides finding "glitches" when there was a cut scene? -[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== OS Inspiration ==

I know I can't be the only one to see parallels between the Lappy 486's logo and that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8]. Even the startup sound seems rather Mac-inspired. --[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:56, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

Compy 386 was also mac-inspired. See e-mail "[[big white face]]" when Strong Mad runs "b/w" (You can see the Apple logo in the upper-left corner, as well as various other design similarities.) Also, The Cheat's computer is obviously an iMac.
:Oh, yeah, it's '''definitely''' Mac-inspired.&mdash;[[User:StrongstarRunbad|StrongstarRunbad]] 14:53, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
The prompt seems to be from [http://apple2history.org/history/ah14.html Apple DOS], unless there's another OS with a "]" prompt. [[User:68.163.147.134|68.163.147.134]] 23:48, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Lappy outer logo ==

Can anyone get a shot of the Lappy outer logo? When Strong Bad carries it in his fist blocks it.
:I'm working on it, as you can see from [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/lappy_laptoplogo.png this image]. Also, if you wanted a screenshot of the logo that Strong Bad's head blocks when we first see the logo on screen, that image [http://img15.exs.cx/img15/3971/lappy_simple.png is here.] Even if I'm able to cut Strong Bad out from the screenshot of the ORIGINAL FRAME, the image quality will not be too high. Better to leave it small such as [http://img15.exs.cx/img15/3971/lappy_simple.th.png this thumbnail]. Hope this was helpful.
:--[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 11:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Fun Facts moved from STUFF ==

=== Lappy Startup Screen ===
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move it.''' This goes on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page! --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''STRONGLY DECLINE!''' The Mac bootup sound plays before any display shows, and System 8's loading screen does not have any fadein effects. Furthermore, the Mac OS 8 is only two colors, not four. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:58, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)  (sorry, forgot to sign)
**'''Comment, Post-STUFF''' Mac OS 8 was in full color, though it did still retain System 7's grayscale capabilities. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:16, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:07, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== DELETED!!! ==

So, I've been think about the "DELETED" picture for the Lappy might be equal to the one in [[replacement]], maybe.--[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 15:58, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
:Except, of course, it still says DELETED!! [[User:Mee|Mee]]

== Colors ==

Does the explosion in "do over" count as more colors we have seen the lappy create?  or not?
:There should at least some note that it can display what seems to be an animated gif. --[[User:151.204.128.79|151.204.128.79]] 01:07, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

* I think it should. Though there are little dots of green and blue in it (If you print screen, you don't even have to zoom in) I put in Maroon, brown, light brown, and beige. I think those are the main colors, buyt if anyone disagrees, please say so.

:It's not going to be very easy to get every single color in the explosion. I think "The explosion in [[do over]]" would work, but not every color. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:53, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

* I agree, so I think those four will do (Plus white, but it's already on the list) We <u>at least</u> should use brown and light brown, but maroon and beige should also be noted. If it's shown on the Lappy, then it should be noted. - [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 17:15, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I think we should ditch the section and note that, while mostly based on [[Wikipedia:Color Graphics Adapter|CGA]] graphics, it seems to also be able to display [[Wikipedia:Video Graphics Array|VGA]]. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:22, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

* Even though I like the section, Shaodw Hog might be right.. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]

And it would definately take a lot of color for the webcam. [[User:Seek Bar|Seek Bar]]

So that would be SVGA, as a 486 computer with the specifications os Strong Bad's laptop seems to hold up to 256 colors. - [[User:20eric06|20eric06]] logged off

Also, I found out that VGA supports 256 colors, but only with twakening. I'm only warning that in case that anyone tells me that. -[[User:201.48.50.180|201.48.50.180]] 04:18, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

==Plug In Wall==

*Why is there still a plug in the wall that is still occupied. in email [[part-time job]] we see there is nothing on the back to plug in a wall.whats up with that? (audience laughs)

:Laptops can run on either external power (with a plug) or internal power (battery). {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 21:58, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::With the lappy's 5 minute battery life it needs to be plugged in all the time.

== Picture spacing ==

All the pictures on this page are giving it some very odd spacing... It looks kinda awful, an' I don't quite know how to fix it. Any one better at coding wanna take a crack at it? Or should we just jump right to a gallery? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== 486 Insparation ==

I had just thought of something. Do you think that the Lappy's number is a cross between the Compy's and Tandy's. Think about it: Tandy '''4'''00 and Compy 3'''86'''. ''[[User:Maggot Man|Maggot Man]] 23:20, 1 June 2006 (UTC)''

:From [[Lappy 486#The Real Computer]]:<blockquote>The 486 was actually a [[Wikipedia:Intel 80486|real processor made by Intel]]. It was quite similar to the 386 processor from a software standpoint, but was considerably faster.</blockquote>
:See also [[Compy 386#The Real Computer]] and [[Tandy 400#The Real Computer]].&nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:23, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Looks like one of those old heavy Zenith 386 laptops, or a Compaq LTE 5380.--[[User:67.161.122.193|67.161.122.193]] 05:02, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

== More Colors or No Colors ==

I'm not a member, I hope you all don't mind.
I saw a discussion about the explosion's colors, but I also wanted to note that in the SBemail [[death metal]] Strong Bad has a video chat with [[Larry Palarochini]], the Video Thyme uses far more colors than the explosion, and having to note all possible colors would eventually result in it no long being as much 'several' colors.
I do believe that the section on 'Colors' in the Lappy article could be removed.
:The video chat and the explosion are covered under "Video colours". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Oh! I'm sorry, I had overlooked that, just ignore this then... - Same person as above
:::No problem. I overlook stuff all the time. =) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I agree with Anonny; the colours section is unbecoming. While it's true that the female lappy 486 icon displays in just ~4 colours (cyan, magenta, yellow, red), look closer. She's actually anti-aliased with several shades of those colours, in individual pixels. Enough shades to upgrade the computer at least to 256-colour VGA status. [[User:154.5.22.109|154.5.22.109]] 03:54, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
:::I also think it's pointless. "Video colors" is hardly a single color. There's simply too many. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 19:10, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I also agree. But maybe insted of a complete list of colors, a little something on the technical aspects of the screen? Like an explanation on the 256 VGA mentioned above. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:30, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

== Merged from Female Lappy 486 ==

I got rid of the below:

 == Quick Facts ==
 *The Female Lappy looks to be inspired by the movie [http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?id=1800133713&d=hv&cf=info "War Games"] in which
 a talking computer would greet and interact with its user, David.

It's not at all unique to ''War Games''. What aboot ''2001: A Space Oddysey'', or, ''Knight Rider''? Point is, a computer that talks to the user isn't a reference to any specific thing. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 14:29, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)

I wouldn't know. I've never seen the movie. But if the talking computer in War Games has blonde hair and a female face, I think it can be considered a valid reference. :) <br>
Female Lappy 486 is the first hrwiki page I've ever created. *treasures it somehow* --[[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]]

Many combolations, Elizimath.  ---[[User:Bellatrix|Bellatrix]]

== Merge with Lappy 486 ==

I think the female persona has become established to the point that it is a true part of the Lappy. I therefore don't see the need for two pages on the subject. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:15, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

== LCD Liquid...scroll buttons? ==

Has anyone noticed that when you click the scroll bar(and buttons) on the 'Denny's Menu' area it makes the LCD effect? It's almost like the scroll buttons are actually on the screen and you have to exert force with your finger to make it scroll down. -- [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 20:12, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

== Female Lappy sounds like Michael Jackson? ==

Hi,

Does anyone else think that the Female Lappy sounds like Michael Jackson?

This doesn't need to actually be added to the trivia or facts on the Wiki, it's just funny to me...--[[User:128.120.173.80|128.120.173.80]] 14:49, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

:Umm, No, no-ho-ho! No, no, no. No, Anonny, no. No. {glares} No, it doesn't. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 14:53, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

== Latest version of Glitch0 ==

Apparently, the Lappy's font also contains [[dreamail|letters]] with [[portrait|accent marks]] and a [[business trip|tilde]] (~). SOMEBODY besides the Brothers Chaps should have the latest version of the font, right? 'Cause some of the characters in the version I downloaded are just plain squares. --[[User:66.82.9.110|66.82.9.110]] 03:44, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
:Maybe they're custom. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:53, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

== Screen Circles ==

Hey, I noticed that if you click on the beige border just above the screen, a part of a circle still appears on the screen. It works only closer to the screen on the border, and much easier to do in flash files. Is there an explination for this?--{{User:AWMPSCE/sig}} 15:45, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

== EGA, CGA, or VGA? ==

so, what display might the lappy use? CGA seems unlikely given the colors lappy has used...
[[User: Poopskin|Poopskin, the 2nd Human Wedgie™]] 16:56, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

== Allegedly/extremely portable ==

Re: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Lappy_486&curid=3757&diff=545267&oldid=544946&rcid=502430 this]: Actually, Strong Bad does call it "allegedly portable", but this is in [[technology]], not [[animal]]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:58, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:I was aware of that, but it's not from that toon, so i ignored it and just corrected the line it WAS referring to. PS. Heimstern, please come on irc, i need to talk to you. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:07, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::Well, nothing in that section says the features are from all from [[animal]]. Maybe we ought to note both descriptions. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:17, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
@@ Line 81: / Line 81: @@
 ::With the lappy's 5 minute battery life it needs to be plugged in all the time.
-:::Plus Lappy don't charge on ''wii''kends
 == Picture spacing ==
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 Has anyone noticed that when you click the scroll bar(and buttons) on the 'Denny's Menu' area it makes the LCD effect? It's almost like the scroll buttons are actually on the screen and you have to exert force with your finger to make it scroll down. -- [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 20:12, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
-:Maybe the Lappy has a touch screen. It's pretty advenced, for Strong Bad. [[User:DrPepper42|The man with no plan- DrPepper42]] 02:41, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 == Female Lappy sounds like Michael Jackson? ==
@@ Line 161: / Line 159: @@
 :I was aware of that, but it's not from that toon, so i ignored it and just corrected the line it WAS referring to. PS. Heimstern, please come on irc, i need to talk to you. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:07, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 ::Well, nothing in that section says the features are from all from [[animal]]. Maybe we ought to note both descriptions. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:17, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-:::hmm... okay! [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10#Easter Eggs|''{the page gets golf balls falling on it, and plants eating it and whatnot}'']] {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:31, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-== email counter ==
-#Is the email counter on this article supposed the be the number of ''emails checked'', or the number of ''sbemail episodes'' that have used the Lappy?
-#Do Nice Dad's gems even count as emails, since they were... well, I don't know where they came from (figments of the Lappy's imagination?)  {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 23:07, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
-== Understated feature list ==
-* 42 pounds!! (19 kilograms—"Extremely portable" according to Strong Bad in animal; he later describes it as "allegedly portable" in technology.)
-:Not likely whatsoever; Most laptops are going to be no more than 10lbs, even vintage ones.
-* 2MB Hard Drive! (Later said to be 5MB, as of retirement)
-:I don't believe hard drives were ever made in 2MB capacities; either way, a 486-era machine would likely have a hard drive in the neighborhood of 150 to 600MB.
-* "Several" Color Monitor
-:It's likely going to have 8 bit video, providing a palette of 256 possible colors.
-* Warning: Five Minute Battery Life (Strong Bad said it is "One half of ten minutes"—evidence shown in part-time job)
-** In Homestar Ruiner and Strong Badia the Free, Strong Bad claims the Lappy's battery takes five to seven business days to fully charge ("The Lappy don't charge on weekends.")
-:This one is semipossible; a battery of such vintage would likely have degraded to the point of uselessness, and would more than likely have a battery life of 5 seconds if that, and would actually never charge.
-* 512K RAM (0.5 MB)
-:A 486-vintage machine would likely have AT LEAST 2MB of RAM, with 4MB and 8MB being more likely, barring upgrades and expansions.
-* "Finally, a computer for your lap!"—Compy
-:This could mean that it's Compy's first laptop model, since laptops had been around from well before the 486 era.
-* Although never mentioned, the Lappy may support a wireless internet connection. In part-time job, isp, Happy Dethemberween, licensed, rated, and your edge, it can be seen that Strong Bad does not use the Lappy's Ethernet socket.
-:486-era laptops did not have built-in ethernet ports, except perhaps in some extreme or specialized cases. (PCMCIA cards typically provided an ethernet connection as well as the network hardware to support it.) As for a wireless internet connection, it's possible that one could be provided via a PCMCIA card, or this could be a case similar to the disconnected telephones.
-* In the email environment, claims made about the Lappy include:
-** Every time the "enter" key is pressed, everyone else in town will temporarily lose electricity.
-** When the Lappy runs on battery power, 45 acres of rainforest are burned to the ground.
-:Looking at the power requirements listed on my personal "Lappy 486" (an Ambra OEM Sceptre TS30AS using an Intel i486SX @ 33MHz), the power inputs needed are 17V @ 1A/2A or 20V @ 1.05A. Using P=IV, this works out to 17-34W, which is actually quite reasonable. {{unsigned|68.10.121.73|02:01, 28 September 2008 (UTC)}}
-:Of course these don't seem real. The Lappy's supposed to sound like a really crappy computer. Also, it's a cartoon, you probably shouldn't worry about it. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 02:31, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
-== The Lappy a Boy??? ==
-In the introduction, it says that the Lappy was introduced as being male ("boy").  However, I think SB is using the term "boy" in that context to simply refer to the thing itself, and not to infer anything about its gender.  I suggest it be reworded so as not to imply that he meant the Lappy was male.
-:The term "brother" is indisputably male. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 05:15, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
-== Lappy's Dead! ==
-Can someone post a picture of the explosin? [[User:MICGAGUH]]
-== Never DELETED! ==
-After the Lappy's recent death, I have just noticed something. The Lappy has NEVER had an E-Mail Deleted on the actual website. The only time Strong Bad has deleted something on the Lappy were on the DVD and in SBCG4AP. Should this be mentioned in the article? [[User:VmKid|VmKid]] 00:38, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
-== ENDO EL LAPIZ... ==
-I know that means pencil. But, should the demon lappy's face appearing be mentioned in the explosion sexion? -Crudely Drawn Cupcake
-== Compy Catalouge ==
-Anyone know which color Lappy shown is the color of Strong Bad's Lappy?
-*Never mind. I think it's Italian Same
-== Lappy ==
-Is it just me, or does the Lappy's email client look like [[wikipedia:Mutt (e-mail client)|mutt]]? --[[Special:Contributions/156.34.65.97|156.34.65.97]] 13:59, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
-== Shortcuts at the bottom ==
-To my knowledge those things at the bottom are shortcuts, and what you type is in the blue box. But Strong Bad never used them (in email thunder for example he typed send but theres a shortcut for send).
-== Lappy likes hushpuppies ==
-this topic should speak for itself. {{unsigned|24.34.162.27|13:58, 5 September 2011 (UTC)}}
-:It's made very clear at the end of [[retirement]] that the lappy doesn't like hushpuppies. [[The Paper]] likes hushpuppies, but none of the computers do. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 15:47, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
-== Favorite computer ==
-It is mentioned in the article that the Lappy is Strong Bad's favorite computer, but I believe it is the Compy 386. My reasons are he resorted to blowing up the Lappy, but was hysterically distraught after Bubs shot the Compy. What do you guys think? If true, this page should be altered and it should be noted on the [[Compy 386]] page. I think Strong Bad's selling of the Lappy's many features was just part of his dramatic introduction. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 14:46, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
-:I think that unless Strong Bad specifically states that one of his computers is his favorite, any mention of such would be speculation and therefore should be deleted. I have rewritten the sentence in question. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 15:41, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
-== 10th anniversary ==
-is the 10th anniversary of the Lappy 486! Let's celebrate! [[Special:Contributions/166.137.89.170|166.137.89.170]] 19:38, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
-:How 'bout we wait until November, which is the actual anniversary. Anyway, what do you have in mind? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 14:35, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
-== how many ==
-Do you guys know how many Lappy emails there are?--[[Special:Contributions/2.221.163.51|2.221.163.51]] 21:04, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
-:Yes. 83. [[Strong Bad Email#Lappy 486 Era|Count 'em.]] {{User:SRMX12/sig}} 21:25, 5 August 2016 (UTC)