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:::Works fine in 2.0.4 (on 10.4.8). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:56, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Works fine in 2.0.4 (on 10.4.8). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:56, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Looks like I just have to upgrade my browser — thanks. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:04, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Looks like I just have to upgrade my browser — thanks. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:04, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
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:::::It looks like this computer (Safari 2.0.4) has that same problem. I can't take a screenshot at the moment, however. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:55, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
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::::It looks like this computer (Safari 2.0.4) has that same problem. I can't take a screenshot at the moment, however. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:55, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
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::::::I still can't replicate this. Maybe it's some setting in your Safari prefs. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:31, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
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== Updates pages, Template:updates-box ==
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== Strong Bad Email tables ==
== Strong Bad Email tables ==
On Firefox for Windows, I still see "cols="3" width="33%">" starting all four tables on [[Strong Bad Email]]. I tried a hard refresh and I even purged the cache for that page. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&diff=377874&oldid=377873 This diff] shows Dot com removing only the < before the cols in the Lappy 486 era table, and that's certainly not what a revision to edit #[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&diff=377200&oldid=377196 377200] would have done. Trying to save that version again will not get logged in the database, so I'm guessing it's good for everybody else and it's probably a problem on my end, so I'll keep trying. (P.S. It doesn't work in IE.) &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:56, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
On Firefox for Windows, I still see "cols="3" width="33%">" starting all four tables on [[Strong Bad Email]]. I tried a hard refresh and I even purged the cache for that page. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&diff=377874&oldid=377873 This diff] shows Dot com removing only the < before the cols in the Lappy 486 era table, and that's certainly not what a revision to edit #[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&diff=377200&oldid=377196 377200] would have done. Trying to save that version again will not get logged in the database, so I'm guessing it's good for everybody else and it's probably a problem on my end, so I'll keep trying. (P.S. It doesn't work in IE.) &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:56, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
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:P.S. This has already been fixed. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:06, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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::P.P.S It works now. What's with all of my problems? 1.8 is like the phantom bug version... &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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==[[Special:Undelete|Undelete Page]]==
 
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I'm seeing ''Fatal error: Call to a member function getPrefixedText() on a non-object in /home/hrwiki/public_html/includes/SpecialUndelete.php on line 472''. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 20:39, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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:Fixed. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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== Disappearing Page ==
 
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I don't know if this is because of the change or not, but when I was visiting [[Secret Pages]], whenever I rolled over something, it would disappear and the rest of the page would conform to that. Ex: When I moused over "The Homestar Runner Wiki has upgraded to MediaWiki 1.8. Please report any problems. Thanks," it changed to something like "Wiki upgraded 1.8. Please. Thanks." This happened with the tables, too. I'm using Safari and this only happened when I was on that page. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|<span style="color: #800080;">''Brightstar Shiner''</span>]] 22:49, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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:Does it still happen after a restart? I can't make it happen using Safari 2.0.4 running Mac OS 10.4.8. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:32, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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::I turned it off a couple of hours ago and now that I'm back on, I went to the article and it was perfectly normal. I've had times when [[Nebulon]] froze up my computer and then never did again, so maybe it was just being weird. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|<span style="color: #800080;">''Brightstar Shiner''</span>]] 01:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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== Allow blocks on anonymous users only? ==
 
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Under the list of major changes for 1.8 it says "Allow blocks on anonymous users only". What does this mean? Does it mean that regular members can block anonymous users, or that admins can only block anonies? {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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:It means that when a sysop blocks an IP, we have the option to only have it block anonnies &ndash; real users with accounts that happen to edit from the same IP aren't affected. Whether the blocked IP can create accounts to edit with is another, separate, option on the block page. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:21, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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::Its usefulness is more apparent at a very large wiki like Wikipedia; I doubt it will get much use here, if any. (See also [[Bug:550|bug 550]].) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:22, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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==[[HRWiki:Bureaucrats]]==
 
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This user class became linked, so I created a page at the destination. Is there any way to either link all classes to one all-encompasing page with subheadings, or create links and pages for the other user classes, such as proprieters and developers? It seems silly to have pages for only a couple of classes. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:42, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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:What Specialpage is it linked at? I'm curious. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 05:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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::[[Special:Listusers/bureaucrat]]. Before, all the user groups linked to [[HRWiki:Administrators]]... now they're linked individually. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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:::Ahhh, I see. Hey, I don't know if these are in the MediaWiki namespace, but "developer" and "proprietor" are really bugging me (see the drop-down menu). They should be changed to "Developers" and "Proprietor" for consistency/sensibility. Either that, or we could lowercase "Sysops", "Bureaucrats", and "Bots" and pluralize "developer". Same upper/lowercase consistency should be applied to the titles next to the user names. Thanks for coping with my mild OCD. <3, [[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 05:53, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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::::We apparently also have [[HRWiki:Bots]] now too. Dunno what we're gonna do with that one... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
 
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:::::Basically the only mention of bots that we have is at [[HRWiki:Blocking_Policy#Bots]]. (That's I can find right now... there might be more information concerning the appropriateness of [[User:Valerie]] and [[User:GrapeNuts]] somewhere...) So if anybody wants to do some writing/expanding, keep that in mind. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 06:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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::::::I created [[MediaWiki:Group-developer|group-developer]] and [[MediaWiki:Group-proprietor|group-proprietor]], which set the names in the dropdown. We can also create [[MediaWiki:Grouppage-developer|grouppage-developer]] and [[MediaWiki:Grouppage-proprietor|grouppage-proprietor]], to make them link someplace, like sysop and bureaucrat do. Alternatively, we could delete [[MediaWiki:Grouppage-bot|grouppage-bot]] to get rid of the link there. (Side note: Should it be "Proprietor" or "Proprietors"? There's technically two of them after all...) {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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:::::::Ohhh yeah, there Janene is. I didn't see her because I was viewing the sysop group. Yes, I made the group "Proprietors". Now how do we lowercase the Bot, Sysop, and Bureaucrat located in the the parentheses? &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 15:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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::::::::That would be located, I assume, at [[MediaWiki:Group-bot-name]], [[MediaWiki:Group-sysop-name]], and [[MediaWiki:Group-bureaucrat-name]]. &mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:25, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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:::::::::Speaking of the bots, they're not sysops anymore, and I don't see any mention of it in the bureaucrat log. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:46, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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::::::::::I noticed that a while ago... Mebbe it was a 1.6 thing...? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
 
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:::::::::::Bots are not sysops, so they shouldn't be in the sysop group. They do have still sysop ''privileges'', but this was all handled at the database/source code level. It's a semantic distinction more than anything. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:14, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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::::::::::::Ohh... Like th' reservists on th' Fanstuff? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
 
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:::::::::::::Well, they have sysop powers but don't do anything except what they're told... so, I'd say so. &mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 05:25, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 
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== pocket pc / windows mobile  ==
 
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I don't recall 1.7 on windows mobile but i'm sure 1.8 looks better.
 
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it actually looks better than most sites do, but the edit + etc appear under the article instead of above.
 
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overall, very good.
 
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incidentally,
 
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reading the whatzit-code is nearly impossible on a pda
 
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:The mobile skin is not a standard part of 1.8 and is still experimental. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
 

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