Editing HRWiki talk:Upgrade to MediaWiki 1.5

==Nifty stuff==
The "Edit diff." feature sounds fortuitous. I'm not sure I understood the permalink business, though. &mdash;[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 06:37, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:For instance, the current revision of the [[HRFWiki:Main Page|fanstuff Main Page]] is [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=119031 rev 119031].  With 1.4 and earlier, it is not possible to have a link that would always display what was on the page at the time that you viewed it, as the current link in 1.4 just has an [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki_talk:Upgrade_to_MediaWiki_1.5&oldid=0 oldid of 0].  That link will always take you to the current version, which may have been updated since the time you linked to the article.  This is important when someone would want to cite an article for research and so forth.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:03, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::I'm looking forward to the 'Print' tab I've heard about. I'm always up for a new tab. And the move log sounds kinda nifty. I am gonna miss that maintenance page though, *sniff*. I fondly remember searching for double redirects. Is the upgrade probably gonna be finished by Monday morning, NA time? Or are we probably gonna be late updating the Wiki for the Monday update? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 20:53, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::When no one was looking late last night, I did a complete dry run and everything worked as expected.  It didn't take more than a few hours, and I think I'll be able to shave a few minutes off that because of some of the prepping I've been doing.  I expect that everything will be done by Monday barring anything drastic happening.  Who knows, I could have a dozen ninjas bust in through my window and I'd have to fight them off instead.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:01, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::::What, you mean ''again''? But I called them off the last time! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 21:05, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::::Just for the record, ''I'' was looking. But I didn't really see anything I understood. I'm pretty sure I didn't see any ninjas, though. (And yeah, that was prettydanglate, especially for EST; don't ask me why I was awake!) &mdash;[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 21:19, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::::::Don't forget pirates. Ninjas and Pirates. Well, looking forward to it. See all y'alls on the 1.5 flipside. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:21, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Logo is messed up==
While I am searching the wiki some times tho hrwiki logo in the top-left corner of the screen turns to the mediawiki flower logo with a message saying: "set #wgLogo to the URL parh to your own logo image".  Is the hrwiki logo not set up properly?
[[User:Matt|Matt]] 15:47, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:Okay, that was a problem where the Wiki was in two places at once for a little while.  I don't know how people made it into the "/new" directory, but this is all fixed now.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:16, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

== Images ==

A few images will not display correctly, but fixing them is simple.  They just need to be re-uploaded.

<blockquote><div style="float:right">http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/images/4/4e/20051007_broken_fanstuff_image_example.png</div>
Steps to reupload image:
#Find broken image
#Go to image description page
#Click on direct image link.  In the example to the right, this is "<span style="color:blue;"><u>ZipZap_OldSchool.png</u></span>".
#Save this image to your computer.
#Click on the "Upload a new version of this file" link on the image description page.
#Browse to the location that you saved the image and re-upload the file, making sure to click the "Save file" button when the upload warning appears.</blockquote>
Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 10:20, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:I've looked through [[Special:Newimages]] until [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Newimages&until=20050715203537 20050715203537] (or there abouts) and found the following.  (The broken ones will appear as [http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/icons/fileicon.png this image].)  Feel free to pick up where I left off.
<s>[[:Image:JHDC05.JPG]]
[[:Image:20050922 sketchbook dreamaway johnny.PNG]]
[[:Image:Flashfight.PNG]]
[[:Image:Ripberger.PNG]]
[[:Image:The Randomiser.gif]]
[[:Image:20050915 sketchbook pom poms family.PNG]]
[[:Image:Crackotage2.PNG]]
[[:Image:Atari Homestar.PNG]]
[[:Image:Dangeresque.PNG]]
[[:Image:Frank Bennedetto.PNG]]
[[:Image:Tofu Homestar.png]]
[[:Image:Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters.png]]
[[:Image:Townsfolk.PNG]]
[[:Image:Snake.PNG]]
[[:Image:Cricket.PNG]]
[[:Image:Squirrel.PNG]]
[[:Image:Fox.PNG]]
[[:Image:20050825 sketchbook more weird snakes.PNG]]
[[:Image:A Little Girl.PNG]]
[[:Image:The Mayor.PNG]]
[[:Image:DancingBros.PNG]]
[[:Image:Kobe 1-4.png]]
[[:Image:Reynold.PNG]]
[[:Image:040919 sketchbook.png]]
[[:Image:20050818 sketchbook matt just drew these.PNG]]
[[:Image:Perry Palaroncini.PNG]]
[[:Image:Puppets Little Girl Outtakes2.JPG]]
[[:Image:Puppets Little Girl Outtakes.JPG]]
[[:Image:20050804 sketchbook ilko concept art.PNG]]
[[:Image:1936 Strong Bad.png]]
[[:Image:20050721 sketchbook whiteboard wet cheat.PNG]]
[[:Image:Quote Of Week Box Design.PNG]]
[[:Image:PomPomSnowman.png]]</s>
:Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 10:36, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:Here's up to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Newimages&until=20050514105519 20050514105519]:
<s>[[:Image:20050707 sketchbook matts early homsars.PNG]]
[[:Image:Mission Control.JPG]]
[[:Image:Comix-Heavy Sample.png]]
[[:Image:Shareholders.gif]]
[[:Image:Styles Upon Styles Logo.PNG]]
[[:Image:20050701 sketchbook mike shank.PNG]]
[[:Image:Dullard comic.png]]
[[:Image:20050623 sketchbook riddle me twice.PNG]]
[[:Image:TragicClownDog.PNG]]
[[:Image:Vector Homestar.PNG]]
[[:Image:Virus Bad.PNG]]
[[:Image:Aunt Gert.PNG]]
[[:Image:20050602 weekly sketchbook blue laser ungurait.PNG]]
[[:Image:Westminster.png]]
[[:Image:VOY DOT LCD.png]]
[[:Image:LCDD.png]]
[[:Image:Joystix.png]]
[[:Image:Glitch0.png]]
[[:Image:Commodore 64.png]]
[[:Image:Bauhaus 93.png]]
[[:Image:Ahnberghand.png]]
[[:Image:20X6 Badguy.PNG]]
[[:Image:Harmless Junk.JPG]]
[[:Image:20050512 weekly sketchbook the new style.png]]
[[:Image:Bug in mouth.PNG]]
[[:Image:PRS.png]]</s>

:I'm having a problem with [[:Image:1936 Strong Bad.png]]. There isn't a download link to the file, so I can't download it to re-upload it. Any ideas? --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 12:22, 9 October 2005 (BST)
::I've tried to re-upload it, to no avail. [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 20:30, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
:::It works fine for me.  What's wrong with it on your end?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:31, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
::::[http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/Venusy/Not1936SB.png Here's a screenshot.] --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:36, 9 October 2005 (BST)
:::::This image, and "Image:sbghost.jpg" as well, are being adblocked. Disabling adblock for hrwiki.org should fix the problem. [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 08:02, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

nvm, main_22.png works after all. [[User:DDRfreak1|posted by DDRfreak1]] 15:20, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:More, through [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Newimages&until=20041125003209 20041125003209]:
<s>
[[:Image:Mrs Commanderson with Cheat Commandos.png]]
[[:Image:SpaceSketchBook.PNG]]
[[:Image:The Lil Brudder Show.png]]
[[:Image:StinkoDude.PNG]]
[[:Image:Cheap as free.PNG]]
[[:Image:FattysBigChance2.png]]
[[:Image:Strong Sad in the bathroom.png]]
[[:Image:Unnamed Girl.PNG]]
[[:Image:KeisersLatrine.PNG]]
[[:Image:MissyPalmer.jpg]]
[[:Image:Peasantry Map Real.png]]
[[:Image:Happy T.png]]
[[:Image:TGS Kissyboots.png]]
[[:Image:20050120 sketchbook brotherly love.png]]
[[:Image:50Kracewalk.PNG]]
[[:Image:QWERTY.PNG]]
[[:Image:Videlectrix developers.jpg]]
[[:Image:Kinda long-haired band.png]]
[[:Image:Mendelev the archer.png]]
[[:Image:Blue Knight.png]]
[[:Image:Bookazon screenshot.png]]
[[:Image:Strong Bads Website.png]]
[[:Image:Email page screenshot.png]]
[[:Image:LitterOfCheatpups.PNG]]
[[:Image:Homestar Runner Face Screen Saver.png]]
[[:Image:Cold One Premium Alcoholic Screen Saver.png]]
[[:Image:3 dee logo.PNG]]
[[:Image:John & John 2.png]]
[[:Image:Yearbook page.png]]
[[:Image:WSBD coozie.png]]
[[:Image:Portly Washboy.gif]]
[[:Image:Bubs with Keytar.png]]
[[:Image:PuppetTime.png]]
[[:Image:Compy 2.png]]
[[:Image:Puppet vitaminscelebrities.png]]
[[:Image:Puppet lazorbeams.png]]
[[:Image:Holiday Toons Pic.PNG]]
</s>

:And this should be the last of them:
<s>
[[:Image:20X6 versus 1936.png]]
[[:Image:Hairstyle runner.png]]
[[:Image:Spooky Toilet.PNG]]
[[:Image:TreatSnatcha.png]]
[[:Image:TheBrothersChapsBandW.jpg]]
[[:Image:TheBrothersChaps.jpg]]
[[:Image:TMBG Marshie closeup 20040925.jpg]]
[[:Image:Clay Toilet.PNG]]
[[:Image:Cheat Toilet.PNG]]
[[:Image:Kids Toilet.PNG]]
[[:Image:Book Toilet.PNG]]
[[:Image:CastleFunniesSketches.png]]
[[:Image:KoT People.PNG]]
[[:Image:Duck Gaurd One.PNG]]
[[:Image:King Brothers Game.PNG]]
[[:Image:Strong Libs.PNG]]
[[:Image:TTOM One.PNG]]
</s>

The following are ones I've found with bad images when not logged in: [[Whatsit]] and [[Pigs on Head]]. Bye, [[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] from FL 03:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:The images on those pages seem okay, so maybe it's your cache?  Have you tried purging it or hard-refreshing the pages?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::Cache problem again? No matter, alls I gotta do is log in and I'm fine. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 10:48, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Table of Contents ==

I know this sounds kind of petty, but the table of contents toggle link for every page is ''undefined'' and will not perform its script. &mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 13:59, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:Okay, one user ran into this problem on the Fanstuff wiki.  I think it might have something to do with your JavaScript settings.  See [[HRFWiki:HRFWiki talk:Upgrade to MediaWiki 1.5#Table of Contents|this discussion for details.]][[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:19, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::It's not a client-side problem. The scripts for the TOC link here are broken on so many levels I don't know where to begin...
::*The pages have the script<pre>if (window.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = "show"; var tocHideText = "hide"; showTocToggle(); }</pre>and [http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/wikibits.js this] has the function<pre>function showTocToggle(show,hide) {</pre> - it's not passing the parameters correctly to the function.
::*The showTocToggle function uses document.write() - in the age of DOM this is almost a capital offence for a site that tries to be standards compliant.
::*The showTocToggle function checks that the DOM functions exist and bails out of they don't. This makes the previous point even worse because it shows the writer knew about DOM. But then it fails to use them at all in the script.
::However the corresponding [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/skins/common/wikibits.js fanstuff scripts] work properly - perhaps you could just copy the function over? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 17:17, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:::I'd love to try that, but the functions look exactly the same in those two files.  I don't get it...[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:35, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::::Hmm, it seems someone copied it over already... might have been a caching issue at my end. Though I swear when I checked as I wrote that post the script for this site looked something like
<pre>function showTocToggle(show,hide) {
  if (document.getElementById) {
    document.write("something... I forget exactly what, but it wasn't working");
  }
}</pre>
::::{{User:Phlip/sig}} 17:40, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::Okay, so it's some kind of cache problem then.  Good investigating Philip, thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:46, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

== Can't log in ==

This is [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] here and I can't seem to log in. I kept typing ''m''ibluvr13, but it acted like there was no such username. So I put my password in twice and my email and made a "new" username, which showed up as ''M''ibluvr13. Help?

:This is [[User:computerdude33|computerdude33]]. I'm having the exact same "no username found" error.
::My user name is red, there's nothing in it, and I acidently clicked the email me a new password and the one that was sent doesn't work!--bkmlb

:::Okay, I feared this happening.  Users with lowercase first letters can no longer login.  I don't think there's any way I can fix this.  There should be a way that I can transfer your contribs to another username, I think, but I'm going to have to look into that.  Sorry.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:24, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::::But, Bkmlb is a troll impersonator, so what should I do?--bkmlb

:::::You have any other username ideas? -Computerdude33

:::::Okay, now, I'm '''Bkmlb.''' with the period. --[[User:Bkmlb.|Bkmlb.]] 16:42, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Can we now move our old pages to new pages?--[[User:Bkmlb.|Bkmlb.]] 16:50, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:Sure.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:14, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::If you want to nip that 'period at the end of your name' in the bud, give [[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] a ring, and get him to delete the 'Bkmlb' username. I would think Tom could do it too, but they're your only two options, I think. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:22, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

One way to fix this would be to go into the database and edit any user with a lowercase first letter's '''user_name''' field and capitalize the first letter. - porplemontage

:Hmm.  Hey Steve, you up for being the test case for this one?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:32, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::Go for it. -porplemontage

:::Okay, you are now "Porplemontage" in the database and you should be able to login without a problem.  Now it should be as simple as moving your userpage to the new name, me thinks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:49, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::::Okay, your [[Special:Contributions/porplemontage|contribs]] need to be moved, and I'm going to work on that now.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:51, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::Yeah, I just noticed that too. Other than my contributions and my userpage names everything seems to be intact. --<span style="font-variant: small-caps;">'''[[User:porplemontage|Steve]]''' (''[[User talk:porplemontage|talk]]'')</span> 17:56, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::::::Okay.  Also, I just found [[MetaWikipedia:Renameuser|this extension]] which I'm going to give a try.  Let's see how it goes...[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:00, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::::Sigs need fixing too after all this. Any sig subpages seem to become redirects, so you have to edit the old sigpage to just a usual sig, and leave it at that. [[User:Bkmlb|Bkmlb]] and I just went through the whole thing at his [[User talk:Bkmlb#sig rederect|talk page]]. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:04, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Is there anyway I can get my watchlist back too? No way I'll ever remember all the pages I had on there. -- [[User:Mibluvr13|Mibluvr13]] 19:16, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm having the same problem. Please help. [[User:invisible robot fish|invisible robot fish]]

Actually, I had always wished I had a more thoughtfully selected name than [[User:notstrongorbad]]. Official announcement: I'm now [[User:AbdiViklas]]. &mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:17, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Please see [[HRWiki:Changing username]] for all information regarding changing your username.''' This will fix all of our problems, and I'll be better able to deal with things on a one to one basis there.  Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:54, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

== Main Page ==

Some thing's happened to the [[Main Page]]. I'd say trolling, but its protected. The "templates" are all messed up, but I'm checking again. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 15:20, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
:In the last minute, things have really gotten messed up! It's as if the site's being pulled into a reality warping vortex! ABORT!! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 15:28, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
::Okay, maybe not. I still better go. Maybe. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 15:31, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
:::There's some discussion [http://www.hrwiki.org/new/index.php/HRWiki_talk:Upgrade_to_MediaWiki_1.5 here] leading me to believe that at one point many of the templates pointed to a directory called "new" for some time. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 15:33, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Ah!  Almost all of the sbemail links are red!!--[[User:bkmlb|bkmlb]] (password problem, not logged in)

:::::This is also because you guys ended up in the "/new" directory some how.  It's fixed now, as you can't get there any more.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:20, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

== Capitalisation ==

I think I've pinpointed a source to one of the problem: everything that begins with a lowercase letter is being sent to a version with a capital letter. So, for example, the email 'pom pom' redirects to 'Pom pom' (which is his character page. It even affects users (which may be why some people can't log in). I'm sure you've noticed this yourself, but I thought I'd point it out anyway. Just to help. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:This is also because you ended up in the "/new" directory some how. It's fixed now, as you can't get there any more.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:21, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

==Watchlists==

No biggie, but my (and likely everybody else's) watchlists have been reset, so that any changes to watched pages that happened before MediaWiki 1.5 aren't on the watchlist. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:50, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:Well that's kinda nifty. It seems that once you click on a bolded item on your watchlist, the next time you go to your watchlist the change is no longer bolded. Probably the case is the same for watched pages in Recent Changes. That's new, right? It is pretty nifty. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:02, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, pretty cool.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:03, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:::One other thing I discovered about it, is if you just check 'diff', it stays bold. You have to click on the actual page for it to de-bold. That's my contribution to the 1.5 transition. :) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:58, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

== Edit Summaries ==

The edit summaries in Recent changes and page histories are not italic, but WP's are. *bites fingernails* &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 18:35, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:They are italic for me.  Hmm.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:50, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::Firefox problem. Cache clear worked. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:04, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

== 404'd ==

I can't go into Stinkoman 20X6 Enimies, because every time I click on it it goes to a 404 page. - [[User:Genstar Morenner|Genstar]]

never mind --[[User:Genstar Morenner|Genstar]] 18:55, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Most pages are blocked by 404'd, even ones I previously visited. --[[user:anomynimys]] 16:30, 9 october 2005 (UTC)

:Which pages?  What are the urls when you get the 404 errors?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:34, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

All gotten multiple in the Stinkoman 20X6 pages.---[[User:RatherAnnoying|RatherAnnoying]] 22:45, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:What pages?  Could you provide the names for the page and the URLs for when you receive the 404 errors?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:22, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

<s>Many</s> A few pages point to /new/index.php instead of /index.php.  This is causing all the 404s. One example is a few of the links on [[Horrible Painting]]. [[User:The MAZZTer|The MAZZTer]]

:None of the links on that page do what you described.  Could you provide the URLs for when you receive the 404 errors and the pages that link to them?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:13, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

All links to videlectrix games result in a 404'd page.

:Specifically, the non-playable Videlectrix games and Horrible Painting's links, pictures, and so on, all lead to that "/new" directory thing mentioned earlier. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:: I'm not seeing this... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:::I could make a screenshot if you'd like. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:::: I'm not saying it's not happening for you, but it's not happening for me. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:13, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::Hmm. 'Tis a puzzlement. Maybe it's my browser or something. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

I am seeing it for me, on a few pages. If it helps, I'm running Mozilla Firefox 1.07 on Windows 98 SE. --[[User:Blu Aardvark|Blu Aardvark]] <small>[[user talk:Blu Aardvark|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blu Aardvark|(edits)]]</small> 03:18, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:Eh, I just ran a purge command on [[Horrible Painting|the page I was seeing problems with]], and it fixed it. For me, at least. --[[User:Blu Aardvark|Blu Aardvark]] <small>[[user talk:Blu Aardvark|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blu Aardvark|(edits)]]</small> 03:18, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::Whatever it was you did, it works for me now too. Weird... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:::Try purging the cache for each of the pages.  Dorian, you said the non-playable Videlectrix games.  (Meaning, if [[Rabbit Algebra]] does not work, purge it's cache by clicking on [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Rabbit_Algebra&action=purge this link].)  Then [[Rabbit Algebra|try it again]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:23, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::::How do you do that purging thing? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::::*The easiest way for me is to right click on the edit tab, and copy the URL. Then I paste that into the address bar, but replace action=edit with action=purge. --[[User:Blu Aardvark|Blu Aardvark]] <small>[[user talk:Blu Aardvark|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blu Aardvark|(edits)]]</small> 03:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::Thanks for that, Blu Aardvark. It worked. All the pages that seemed messed up are all right again. I'll have to keep that ability in mind. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Character Head Images==

The images won't load on [[Quote of the Week Character Heads]] and the links point to http://www.hrwiki.org/new/index.php/

:They display okay for me.  Is it better now?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:37, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::No, they still don't display. The weird thing is if I go to the history page and compare the last two versions, then everything looks correct. - [[User:M Moogle|M Moogle]]

:::Have you tried a hard refresh of the page?  Or emptying your browser's cache?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:45, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::::Yep, I tried both. For good measure I even tried it in IE which I never use, and it still didn't load correctly. - [[User:M Moogle|M Moogle]]

:::::Doesn't work for me either. Just so you know it's not just him. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::::::Any better now?  Are you sure you cleared all of your temp files, etc.?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:12, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::::It looks normal now. I don't know what you did, but you sure fixed everything up. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:::::::It works for me now as well. - [[User:M Moogle|M Moogle]]

:::::::This happened to me on several cheat commandos links, any help?

:::::::Try the thread right above this, "404'd." It seems to address the same problem. &mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:05, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== New pages ==

[[Crisper drawer]] doesn't appear on [[Special:Newpages]]. I'm not sure if this happens for every new page (this very page appears on it, though). {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:16, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:Hmm, that might be because of how it got moved and stuff, or maybe something else.  It seems to work for other pages though.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:39, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

==Protected Page Message==

Whenever I edited a protected page, it would say "WARNING: This page has been locked so that only users with sysop privileges can edit it. Be sure you are following the protected page guidelines." It still does this, but it's not bolded anymore. Is this supposed to happen? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:41, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:Fixed.  See [[MediaWiki:Protectedpagewarning]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:48, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

== That table thing ==

I seem to remember that table "movie preview" thing on my userpage being all white. Now, some of it is black. Am i remembering incorrectly, or is it a problem? --{{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 21:33, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

I checked into the page I got it from, [[Commandos in the Classroom]], and part of that is black too.

:I fixed it for you. The [http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/main.css Monobook stylesheet] has a rule which make table contents black text by default - so you need to override that in the table style. I'm guessing it wasn't like that in 1.4, so tables would inherit the text colour from their parent. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:39, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::Thanks Philip. --{{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 21:46, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

== Minor exclamation ==

This is a minor thing, but is the order of the exclamation point and the minor "m" reversed from what it used to be in the recent changes? If I'm remembering correctly, the red exclamation points used to all line up, and it was better that way. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:31, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
: !Hey, you're right --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:37, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::I can't change the order (easily, I'd imagine), but I can easily style &lt;span class="minor"> and &lt;span class="unpatrolled">.  How do you guys want it?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:46, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Okay, so after a second viewing under the tutelage of Pom Pom's keen eyes, it appears that I was misremembering the old version, as this example shows:

<div style="border:1px #CCC solid;padding:3px;background:#fafafa;margin-left:7.5em"><span style="color:gray">&bull;</span> ([http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=3_Times_Halloween_Funjob&amp;curid=1020&amp;diff=160173&amp;oldid=159585&amp;rcid=112217 diff]) ([http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=3_Times_Halloween_Funjob&amp;curid=1020&amp;action=history hist]) . .  <span class="minor">m</span> <span class="unpatrolled">!</span> [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]; 10:16 . . [[User:Homestar_Coder|Homestar Coder]] ([[User_talk:Homestar_Coder|Talk]])<em> (Reverted ...)</em></div>

:::Apparently, the difference is that there used to be a space between the two. I wonder why this was changed. (Also, the styles themselves are fine and don't need to be changed.) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:12, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::::Hmm, I seem to remember this:
<div style="border:1px #CCC solid;padding:3px;background:#fafafa;margin-left:9.5em">http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/Arr_r.png<tt>&nbsp;<span class="minor">m</span><span class="unpatrolled">!</span> 11:32 </tt>[[Main Page]] ([[Main Page|diff]]; [[Main Page|hist]]) . . [[Special:Contributions/Tom|127.0.0.1]] ([[User talk:Tom|Talk]])<em> (<span class="autocomment">[[Main Page#Section|&rarr;]]Section -</span> Editing this section.)</em></div>
::::Also, the relavent code is found around line 18 in [http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/wikipedia/phase3/includes/ChangesList.php?view=markup ChangesList.php] is as follows:
<pre>	/**
	 * Returns the appropiate flags for new page, minor change and patrolling
	 */
	function recentChangesFlags( $new, $minor, $patrolled, $nothing = '&amp;nbsp;' ) {
		$f = $new ? '<span class="newpage">' . wfMsgHtml( 'newpageletter' ) . '</span>'
				: $nothing;
		$f .= $minor ? '<span class="minor">' . wfMsgHtml( 'minoreditletter' ) . '</span>'
				: $nothing;
		$f .= $patrolled ? '<span class="unpatrolled">!</span>' : $nothing;
		return $f;
	}</pre>
::::What do you think?  Is it really different?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:06, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::I've never seen anything like your example. Could it be the developer version? The example I provided was taken directly from an HTML dump of the recent changes right before the upgrade (edited to make the links work and for the length of the line, but otherwise intact). The only difference I see between it and the current recent changes is the space between the <span class="minor">m</span> and the <span class="unpatrolled">!</span>. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:21, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::::::No, not a developer version, I just have Enhanced Recent Changes enabled in my [[Special:Preferences|preferences]].  That's what it looks like for me.  Yours is what it looks like for regular Recent Changes.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

==HELP!==
it wont log me on! ive tryed it over and over agen with no luck im djm1791 plese help!

:Apparantly, there's a problem with usernames that start with a lowercase letter. Look in the [[HRWiki talk:Upgrade to MediaWiki 1.5#Can.'t log in|Can't log in]] section of this page. --[[User:Blu Aardvark|Blu Aardvark]] <small>[[user talk:Blu Aardvark|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blu Aardvark|(edits)]]</small> 08:32, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::Did you receive an error message when you attempted to login?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:44, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:::yes

::::And what did the error message say?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:56, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

==Re-confirming E-mail address==
Ever since the upgrade, I am finding it difficult to email anyone via the wiki's '''E-mail this user''' link. For some reason, the system thinks that none of the email adresses have been authenticated, thus requiring everyone to visit [[Special:Preferences|Preferences]]. Under the "Email" portion of "User data" one will find a way to have a new e-mail address confirmation sent. I am fairly sure this has affected all users. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:07, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Well, this is odd ==

I keep getting this mess:

'''Line 32: Line 32:''' <nowiki>== {{User:GWR_2004/headtemplate|Contributions from gwr2004}} == == {{User:GWR_2004/headtemplate|Contributions from gwr2004}} ==</nowiki>
'''Fatal error:''' Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in '''/home/hrwiki/public_html/includes/DifferenceEngine.php''' on line '''662'''

when I try to patrol this edit:
http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:GWR_2004&curid=3346&diff=171113&oldid=171093&rcid=113859

Why? I don't know. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 22:39, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

:It looks like [[User:GWR 2004]] is doing some crazy stuff on his/her userpage.  He or she might have broken something, but I'm guessing a particular thing they did just queried the database too heavily.  You might want to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:GWR_2004&action=edit&section=new ask them].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:05, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

::I tried that diff a few days ago. Someone went on my user page and LINK'D!! a whole bunch of [[Special:Contributions/GWR 2004|contributions]] on that page before I found out about the whole [[HRWiki:Changing username|request]] process. {{User:gwr2004/sig}} 23:22, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Had to do some wweird things with URLs, but I finally got marked as patrolled. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:46, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

== Database error ==

I have gotten several database errors recently. Here is the last:
<blockquote>A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: 
<blockquote>(SQL query hidden)</blockquote>
from within function "MediaWikiBagOStuff:_doquery". MySQL returned error "1062: Duplicate entry 'hrwiki_mwiki6:messages:Bad_image_list' for key 1 (localhost)".</blockquote>
&mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:31, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

:Did you hide the SQL query or did the software?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:46, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

::The software. The above is copied and pasted as-was. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

:The last time I saw this error message, it was when [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] was blanked instead of leaving it is a dash. But now, content is in there, and the error is still occuring. I am using Mozilla Firefox 1.0.7 on a Windows XP Professional machine, if that information is necessary. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:51, 12 October 2005 (BST)
::Tom, think it's possible to enable display of the queries? (Or alternatively, just send out an e-mail with it?) The displayed error doesn't seem to bring any possible issue to mind, so it's hard to tell when there's no way of knowing what it was trying to do... --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] <small>[[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]]</small> 21:03, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
:::If the query should be displayed, set $wgShowSQLErrors to true in LocalSettings.php. If it should be e-mailed, add the code to the databaseError function in includes/OutputPage.php before the query is hidden. --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] <small>[[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]]</small> 21:10, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

::::I like the OutputPage.php option better.  How should I set that up?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:41, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::Note that this is based on MediaWiki 1.4.5, but it should be quite similar in 1.5.x.
:::::Open includes/OutputPage.php and look for the text <code>function databaseError</code>. You should see a block of code similar to this:
        function databaseError( $fname, $sql, $error, $errno ) {
                global $wgUser, $wgCommandLineMode, $wgShowSQLErrors;
 
                $this->setPageTitle( wfMsgNoDB( 'databaseerror' ) );
                $this->setRobotpolicy( 'noindex,nofollow' );
                $this->setArticleRelated( false );
                $this->enableClientCache( false );
                $this->mRedirect = '';
 
                if( !$wgShowSQLErrors ) {
                        $sql = wfMsg( 'sqlhidden' );
                }

:::::Add the following lines before <code>if( !$wgShowSQLErrors ) {</code>, putting in the appropriate e-mail address as the first parameter to mail():
 $header='From: SQLMonitor@hrwiki.org\r\nX-Mailer: MediaWiki/'. $wgVersion .', PHP/'. phpversion();
 mail('destination e-mail','HRWiki: Failed query',$sql, $header);
:::::Save and upload. --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] <small>[[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]]</small> 17:17, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

::::::Done.  I'll let you know what errors come up.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:15, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::If you prefer, you can add my e-mail address to the destination field by seperating the two with a comma. So that'd be <code>your@email.something, my@email.something</code>. This will send a copy of it to both addresses. --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] <small>[[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]]</small> 21:28, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

::::::::I just spoke with Brion Vibber via IRC about the errors I've received already and he had me change a line in a file that should fix the problem.  Let me know if the errors still occur.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:11, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

==Weird extra Talk Page note==

<pre>

# (cur) (last)  15:32, 15 October 2005 Thunderbird L17 (→Personal CSS - - Reply.)  updated (since my last visit) 
# (cur) (last) 15:26, 15 October 2005 It's dot com (Personal CSS)
# (cur) (last) 18:39, 13 October 2005 Thunderbird L17 (→Story? - - Reply to Lapper.)

</pre>

The 'updated (since my last visit)' was bordered seperately in red, and I didn't write it. Then I realized I was watching my talk page, therefore the 'new message' message kept coming up. I unwatched it, and the message went away. Any significance of the red bordered message at all? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:39, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
:It's meant to show you if an article has been changed since the last time you visited it. I think it's a part of the [[wikipedia:m:Enotif|Enotif]] extension to MediaWiki, as it doesn't appear on Wikipedia. I don't really know a lot about that extension, but I think that's one of its features. --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] <small>[[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]]</small> 23:59, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

::You're seeing the [[MediaWiki:Updatedmarker]].  As far as I know, what you've described is exactly what is supposed to happen.  This feature came standard with MediaWiki 1.5.0 and simply put: the page has changed since your last visit.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:08, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

== You have new messages ==
The following threads discuss the same issue and have been grouped here. The cause of the problem was [http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3805 bug 3805], which has now been fixed. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:52, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

=== Thread 1 ===
I recently got a new message, and even though I replied, it still shows the You Have new Messages banner. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 20:39, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:Hmm.  It might be because someone changed another page on your watchlist.  I haven't tested this yet though.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:43, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::I removed my talk page from my watchlist, and the problem is fixed. ~�{{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

I had something similar happen to me, although my page is not on my watch list. Does anybody have any suggestsions? ~Isaac Smith

I still can't figure out why it's doing this. I've moved to a new computer, and logged in there, but I didn't think that that would fix it. Hmmmm... ~Isaac Smith
:Isaac, you may want to try manually clicking on the "unwatch" button on your user talk page. For some reason, our watchlists were not backward compatible, meaning that the system might tell you that you don't have any pages on your watchlist, even though you still do. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 02:38, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

=== Thread 2 ===
When I get a new message, I check it, but when I go anywhere else after checking it, it still says, "You have new messages" and the last messages were the ones I checked. HELP! - [[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]]
*I've had this same problem on another wiki, and although I am not sure what is causing it (the other wiki isn't upgraded yet), clearing your browser cache should solve it. --[[User:Blu Aardvark|Blu Aardvark]] <small>[[user talk:Blu Aardvark|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blu Aardvark|(edits)]]</small> 12:04, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::The answer to your problem is already answered on this page right [[HRWiki_talk:Upgrade_to_MediaWiki_1.5#New_Messages|here]].  Always check before starting a new thread. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 12:34, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

=== Thread 3 ===

I seem to alweys have the "You have new messages." orange thingy above the page. I already read what was sent to me and repleyed. Why won't it go away? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 12:05, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

:Try removing your talk page from your watchlist.  See [[#New Messages]] and [[#"New messages"]] for more information.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:53, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

::Oh. Thanks. Soo.. Now when I ''do'' get a new massege, would it show the orange bar? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 12:58, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Is it possible to fix this without the workaround? I like having my talk page on my watchlist. It's frustrating to have to unwatch it each time I get a new message. Speaking of this, it now seems impossible to add my talk page to my watchlist. I click "watch," but nothing changes. (Speaking of watchlists, regular talk pages have become temporarily separated from their article pages. If I want to reestablish the connection between the two, I have to manually unwatch and then re-watch the article.) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:33, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

<s>Argh! The same thing is happening to me! I can't remove my talk page from my watchlist because it says that I have no items on my watchlist. But I know it has to be on my watchlist because the page title is in bold on Recent Changes. I just can't see to get rid of the banner or remove the page from the watch list! Please reply ASAP!<br>
PS: I tried adding this page to the watchlist and both this page AND User talk:The Chort have turned up. I can remove this page but not the talk page! Stupid Wiki!<br>
PPS: It's gone! HOORAY! Please ignore everything above this line.<br></s>
Just for the record, I got rid of the orange template thingy by adding my User page to my watchlist and then removing it. I think that sorted it. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:17, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

:Again, if you missed the notice above: This bug has been fixed. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:52, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

==Talk page watchlist==

Here's something that's driving me mad. When you watch your talkpage, the new message sitemessage won't go away, right? So I unwatch it. The thing is, everytime I get a new message, it starts watching it again by itself. I looked, but it didn't seem like this problem was addressed here. Any suggestions? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:It looks like the way the talk page is added to the watchlist has been changed. First of all, you no longer can manually add it to your watchlist. If someone sends you a message, your talk page is automatically watched. When you check your talk page, it is automatically unwatched (now that the bug above has been fixed). I don't know whether this is a separate bug or an intentional new feature. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:55, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

== Edit conflict ==

Obviously, the mechanism for determining whether there's an edit conflict has been enhanced to that if different sections are modified at the same time, a conflict doesn't necessarily occur. Is there some page somewhere that details the new functionality? In spite of it, however, I was still able to accidentally revert some changes with [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_10&diff=172151&oldid=172150 this edit] (the hidden comment) and had to fix it [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_10&diff=next&oldid=172154 here]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:38, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:What should happen is that it detects whether the section you were editing has changed. If not, it merges your changes into the article, regardless of any other edits.
:That said, I'm not sure why you had that happen to you, unless you had an edit conflict PRIOR to that and then copy/pasted your version to overwrite the other one. I've yet to see such a thing happen on Wikipedia. --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] <small>[[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]]</small> 23:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, it's the [[MetaWikipedia:Help:Edit conflict]] technology.  I think your situation might have something to do with your [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_10&diff=172150&oldid=172149 previous edit], which dealt with that very text.  Of course, I have no idea, but that's my best guess.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:14, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

:::This may have come up again recently, and it has been discussed on my talk page. To summarize, it probably has to do with [http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1150 bug 1150]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:57, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

== Special:Random question. ==

How come this talk page seems to count as part of the main namespace for search and random page? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:Hmm.  What's even more interesting is the difference between [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?ns0=1&search=mediawiki&searchx=Search this search] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?ns5=1&search=mediawiki&searchx=Search this one].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:59, 4 November 2005 (UTC)