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== Some links to help get you started ==
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== Thanks ==
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'''To get plugged in to the community:'''
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*Let us know a little bit about yourself on your [[User:Bleu Ninja|user page]]. (Please see the rules and guidelines for your [[HRWiki:User space|user space]] first.)
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*If you're not sure what you can do to help out, head over to [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]].
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*If you're looking for more community interaction, you can also register over at our <span class="plainlinks">[http://forum.hrwiki.org forum]</span>, or if you're feeling creative, you can register separately at the [[HRFWiki:|fanstuff wiki]].
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*If you see an update on [[HR:|homestarrunner.com]] that isn't listed on the [[Main Page]], put it up [[H*R.com updates|here]].
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*Above all, be sure to '''[[HRWiki:Standards#Be bold, but know when not to be|be bold]]''' and have fun!
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== Nice! ==
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Hey Bleu Ninja, thanks for bringing all those older wiki pages back up to date! Many of them needed more TLC than we realized!  It is very much appreciated! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:16, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
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:You're very welcome! I appreciate the acknowledgement. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 21:53, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
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Congratulations with your fanstuff!  That must feel pretty good. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 05:15, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
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== Ripped Game Files ==
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It did feel good, man. I remember it like it was yesterday,(because it was) and [[the paper|like it was about to happen in a wavy flashback]]. I was goofing off and wondered if the fanstuff had been updated. I clicked and there it was! I was [[caffeine|excited]] for the next half an hour over that! But the original picture was SO much cooler-I'll post it on my page when I get [[from work|admin privileges]]. {{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 00:55, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
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I see that you've updated images related to SBCG4AP by "ripping" the graphics directly from the game instead of relying on low-quality screenshots.
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I love how they look nothing like The Cheats, yet they look so much like The Cheat Commandos. Nice work. {{User:Coach z's cool/sig}} 03:28, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
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Some years ago I was working on completing the dialogue response pages for SBCG4AP. I did this by playing the game as atrociously as possible waiting for Strong Bad to drop hints or trigger unique error messages for unusual combinations, multiple times to see if he reacted differently if events were done in a different order. I'd like to ask if you have access to the game's source files, is it possible to rip out and examine all the dialogue recorded for the game, or can you only rip the graphics files? -- [[Special:Contributions/68.37.43.131|68.37.43.131]] 00:27, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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:It's possible to rip out and examine the audio files, yes, but unfortunately for that purpose the dialogue's audio files are named undescriptively (e.g. "92273664.aud") and conversations are split into different files whenever a new character starts speaking. I use the [https://quickandeasysoftware.net/software/telltale-explorer Telltale Explorer] to navigate the games' data packs. While you ''could'' extract all the dialogue files and listen to them one-by-one to verify our transcripts, I don't know how (or if it's even possible) to access the code that actually shows how any of these lines are implemented. Not to mention [https://tcrf.net/Strong_Bad's_Cool_Game_For_Attractive_People there are unused sounds] in the game files, too. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 00:46, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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The picture is [[Edgar|done and done]]. {{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 02:39, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
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== add ruffle? ==
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==Using Show Preview==
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Hey there Bleu Ninja! What's up? I noticed that you have made several consecutive edits to your user page. I want to point out the Show Preview button. It's right next to the Save Page button when you edit, and you can use it whenever you are making a lot of experimental edits, for example when you are trying to get formatting right. Using the Show Preview button is quicker and easier than saving and clicking "edit" again, and will keep recent changes and page histories from being flooded. Thanks a bunch! {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 05:50, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
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Yeah, yeah... I know that, but I keep on thinking that "I got it" (after previewing), then save, then have a "Holy [[crap]]!" moment as I realize I screwed up. Thanks for the tip! {{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 22:54, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
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Hey, the mirrors don’t have Ruffle on them so now they can’t be viewed. Maybe you could add Ruffle to them? [[User:TMBGLOVER|TMBGLOVER]] 21:26, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
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:I'm not in charge of the HRWiki's mirrors and I'm not sure who is. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 21:44, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
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== Thumbnail images for gifs ==
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For the .gif file format, the image doesn't load in a thumbnail of a different size. In the case of [[Homsar Main Page]] right now, the thumbnail would have to be indicated at 360px for the image to show, which (I checked on Show Preview) is huge on the page. Do you think you could re-upload that gif image in a smaller frame? If not, that's okay too; the image still serves the intended purpose. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 01:45, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
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:Just checked it and (at least on my end) the thumbnail ''is'' showing at 180px. If it would be better to be smaller, I can certainly reupload it at a different scale. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 05:19, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
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::Shows for me too -[[Special:Contributions/126.156.157.132|126.156.157.132]] 06:45, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
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:::Yes, now it's working for me at 180px. I'm glad; I guess that means you don't have to do anything else. But it still doesn't work at nearby values like 200px, 175px, or 90px which I also tried in preview. But as long as 180px works, I think we're good. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 17:25, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
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== Some rambles about one of your rambles ==
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I actually partially agree with your take on "Sightings". Partially. On one hand, I think it's pretty fun to note when, say, a Trogdor knockoff appears in Amphibia or Disgaea turns a baseball bat weapon into a Strong Bad/Eh! Steve reference, to name two cases off the top of my head. On the other... I have long thought that the Web sightings pages in particular have suffered from a notability issue. We don't exist to advertise people's obscure blogs or YouTube videos just because they mention Coach Z or something. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:57, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
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:Agree, good point - "Web" (and other user-generated ones) were what I generally had mind there. When "Sightings" was created, sites like YouTube/Reddit/Twitter/Tumblr were a year or less old; nowadays if anyone's looking for H*R fan creations (or sightings!) they're gonna just search those platforms, which are also more conducive to sharing links or images! The reason I put it on my userpage rather than any of their relevant talk pages is... frankly any updates to the Sightings network of pages would be a ton of work and I don't feel interested enough to contribute, even in offering suggestions. Many of the sightings that ''are'' notable are vaguely or poorly written, so you start to get into discussing and developing standards for cleanup... after [[Talk:Sightings#Organization and criteria for inclusion|pitching in one brief suggestion]], even if the pages' shagginess does bother me I'm fine with just walking away and letting other intrepid editors get involved there. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 16:44, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
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This is more about what you wrote on the [[HRWIKI: Standards#Fan 'Stumes]] part. A few years back when I wrote [http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Fan_%27Stumes_2019&offset=20191124174753&action=history 2019 transcript], I used the word "fan" to describe the costume wearers and got yelled at for it, even though "fan" is in the title. Also, while I am a lifelong fan of Carmen Sandiego games (mostly from the Lynne Thigpen and Chase Devineaux CD-ROM era, and the cartoon with Rita Moreno) and a Zoombini logic master, I am willing to concede that "pizza troll" can be used generically. -- [[Special:Contributions/68.37.43.131|68.37.43.131]] 18:49, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
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:I'll have to open a conversation about those, then! Shout out to the Zoombinis, a real computer-lab classic. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 19:13, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
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==The King of Town==
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I don't mean to push, but I wasn't sure if you saw what I wrote [[HRWiki:Projects/Yello Dello and KOT-DVD Conventions#Linking|here]] (admittedly, after you moved the pages). Right now, your edits are suggesting that a link that looks like <font color=blue>The King of Town</font> would be readily understood to be about the toon instead of the character, when I would believe that the opposite is much more likely to be true. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
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:Yeah, shortly after getting started I recalled that the name-change wasn't quite settled, which is why I stopped after a few edits. I ''think'' I mostly stuck to <font color=blue>The King of Town</font> in places where contextually you can tell that it's talking about a toon {{--}} that is, either '''1.''' as a bulleted entry in the "appearances" subsection of a character page or '''2.''' in a parenthetical preceded by "from", in the "summary" subsection of an image description {{--}} but if you feel that edits were premature or added unnecessary ambiguity feel free to revert until there's greater consensus. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 16:32, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
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== Multiple Instagram images ==
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Hey @Bleu Ninja,
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To answer {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=@strongbadactual_(Instagram)&curid=56042&diff=834979&oldid=834649 your question}} regarding multiple images on instagram: yes! The {{t|post}} template used in the instagram page (and the @ronginal page) is the very same!  They all have the same parameters and functions.  What differs mainly is how they call they call their items as "tweets" or "posts".  And there's probably some details I've forgotten, but overall the functionality is the same!
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Also, thanks for all your excellent edits and hard work! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:25, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
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:Good to know, thanks! Since Instagram is [[bottom 10|(relatively)]] less active, edits there feel more impactful. Plus I always like seeing behind-the-scenes stuff. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 19:12, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

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[edit] Thanks

Hey Bleu Ninja, thanks for bringing all those older wiki pages back up to date! Many of them needed more TLC than we realized! It is very much appreciated! --Stux 21:16, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

You're very welcome! I appreciate the acknowledgement. -- Bleu Ninja 21:53, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

[edit] Ripped Game Files

I see that you've updated images related to SBCG4AP by "ripping" the graphics directly from the game instead of relying on low-quality screenshots.

Some years ago I was working on completing the dialogue response pages for SBCG4AP. I did this by playing the game as atrociously as possible waiting for Strong Bad to drop hints or trigger unique error messages for unusual combinations, multiple times to see if he reacted differently if events were done in a different order. I'd like to ask if you have access to the game's source files, is it possible to rip out and examine all the dialogue recorded for the game, or can you only rip the graphics files? -- 68.37.43.131 00:27, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

It's possible to rip out and examine the audio files, yes, but unfortunately for that purpose the dialogue's audio files are named undescriptively (e.g. "92273664.aud") and conversations are split into different files whenever a new character starts speaking. I use the Telltale Explorer to navigate the games' data packs. While you could extract all the dialogue files and listen to them one-by-one to verify our transcripts, I don't know how (or if it's even possible) to access the code that actually shows how any of these lines are implemented. Not to mention there are unused sounds in the game files, too. -- Bleu Ninja 00:46, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

[edit] add ruffle?

Hey, the mirrors don’t have Ruffle on them so now they can’t be viewed. Maybe you could add Ruffle to them? TMBGLOVER 21:26, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

I'm not in charge of the HRWiki's mirrors and I'm not sure who is. -- Bleu Ninja 21:44, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

[edit] Thumbnail images for gifs

For the .gif file format, the image doesn't load in a thumbnail of a different size. In the case of Homsar Main Page right now, the thumbnail would have to be indicated at 360px for the image to show, which (I checked on Show Preview) is huge on the page. Do you think you could re-upload that gif image in a smaller frame? If not, that's okay too; the image still serves the intended purpose. The Knights Who Say Ni 01:45, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Just checked it and (at least on my end) the thumbnail is showing at 180px. If it would be better to be smaller, I can certainly reupload it at a different scale. -- Bleu Ninja 05:19, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
Shows for me too -126.156.157.132 06:45, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
Yes, now it's working for me at 180px. I'm glad; I guess that means you don't have to do anything else. But it still doesn't work at nearby values like 200px, 175px, or 90px which I also tried in preview. But as long as 180px works, I think we're good. The Knights Who Say Ni 17:25, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

[edit] Some rambles about one of your rambles

I actually partially agree with your take on "Sightings". Partially. On one hand, I think it's pretty fun to note when, say, a Trogdor knockoff appears in Amphibia or Disgaea turns a baseball bat weapon into a Strong Bad/Eh! Steve reference, to name two cases off the top of my head. On the other... I have long thought that the Web sightings pages in particular have suffered from a notability issue. We don't exist to advertise people's obscure blogs or YouTube videos just because they mention Coach Z or something. --Jay (Gobble) 07:57, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Agree, good point - "Web" (and other user-generated ones) were what I generally had mind there. When "Sightings" was created, sites like YouTube/Reddit/Twitter/Tumblr were a year or less old; nowadays if anyone's looking for H*R fan creations (or sightings!) they're gonna just search those platforms, which are also more conducive to sharing links or images! The reason I put it on my userpage rather than any of their relevant talk pages is... frankly any updates to the Sightings network of pages would be a ton of work and I don't feel interested enough to contribute, even in offering suggestions. Many of the sightings that are notable are vaguely or poorly written, so you start to get into discussing and developing standards for cleanup... after pitching in one brief suggestion, even if the pages' shagginess does bother me I'm fine with just walking away and letting other intrepid editors get involved there. -- Bleu Ninja 16:44, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

This is more about what you wrote on the HRWIKI: Standards#Fan 'Stumes part. A few years back when I wrote 2019 transcript, I used the word "fan" to describe the costume wearers and got yelled at for it, even though "fan" is in the title. Also, while I am a lifelong fan of Carmen Sandiego games (mostly from the Lynne Thigpen and Chase Devineaux CD-ROM era, and the cartoon with Rita Moreno) and a Zoombini logic master, I am willing to concede that "pizza troll" can be used generically. -- 68.37.43.131 18:49, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

I'll have to open a conversation about those, then! Shout out to the Zoombinis, a real computer-lab classic. -- Bleu Ninja 19:13, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

[edit] The King of Town

I don't mean to push, but I wasn't sure if you saw what I wrote here (admittedly, after you moved the pages). Right now, your edits are suggesting that a link that looks like The King of Town would be readily understood to be about the toon instead of the character, when I would believe that the opposite is much more likely to be true. The Knights Who Say Ni 02:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, shortly after getting started I recalled that the name-change wasn't quite settled, which is why I stopped after a few edits. I think I mostly stuck to The King of Town in places where contextually you can tell that it's talking about a toon — that is, either 1. as a bulleted entry in the "appearances" subsection of a character page or 2. in a parenthetical preceded by "from", in the "summary" subsection of an image description — but if you feel that edits were premature or added unnecessary ambiguity feel free to revert until there's greater consensus. -- Bleu Ninja 16:32, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

[edit] Multiple Instagram images

Hey @Bleu Ninja,

To answer your question regarding multiple images on instagram: yes! The {{post}} template used in the instagram page (and the @ronginal page) is the very same! They all have the same parameters and functions. What differs mainly is how they call they call their items as "tweets" or "posts". And there's probably some details I've forgotten, but overall the functionality is the same!

Also, thanks for all your excellent edits and hard work! --Stux 14:25, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Good to know, thanks! Since Instagram is (relatively) less active, edits there feel more impactful. Plus I always like seeing behind-the-scenes stuff. -- Bleu Ninja 19:12, 26 September 2024 (UTC)