Editing Talk:licensed

== What's new link ==
Dunno what i cans do about it, but the link to the sbemail is broked.  It links to sbemail.190.html (that is, there's an extra dot).  Someone with the privilege needs to fix this right quick.  [[User:Telamon|-Telamon]] 06:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:Nvm. Fixed. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:02, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
== Blackhead-Flaced Janice ==
Should it be pointed out that Blackhead-Flaced Janice is a joke on the misspelling of Pilmple-faced Bill?  Is it possible to over-"over-analyze"?
:Give the [[HRWiki:Standards]] a read.  I'd say this qualifies as both obvious and explaining the joke.  So... no. [[User:64.198.255.1|64.198.255.1]] 20:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Homestar's Song ==

although it's similar, the song homestar's singing isn't the one from [[anything]] and [[the paper]]. that one comes from "never-ending story", but this one is different. i don't know where it's from, but i'm still deleting that inside reference.  --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 07:03, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:I'm considering the "Sail Away, Sail Away, Sail Away" part of [[Wikipedia:Orinoco Flow|Orinoco Flow]] by [[Wikipedia:Enya|Enya]]? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 08:48, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::i can see what you're coming from, but he says the line 4 times instead of three, so i'm guessing it's something else. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 08:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::It reminds me more of the Hot Hot Heat song [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdk8J1OOiJA Bandages], but again he says it four times instead of three. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 15:47, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Sounds a lot like [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GBn-BpkNsA "Walking on Broken Glass"] by Annie Lennox [[User:Havl|Havl]] 20:57, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::::That's really not how the song goes at all.[[User:LikeAsItself|LikeAsItself]] 00:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:It sounds to me like the Flintstone kids theme.  "Yabba dab yabba dab yabba dabba do" [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scpjpz3ReMI FSK]
::Well, apparently, if everyone thinks it's something different, it has to be TTATOT.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 21:16, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Not necessarily, because it's possible that all but one of those people are wrong. :) 
:::I agree with the Flintstones Kids theme. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 22:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

=="Human noses?"==

Does Strong Bad imply that he is not human? Has this ever happened before?
:I was wondering about that myself.  I know it was in a quick joke, and may not hold a lot of weight, but I think something like whether or not you're human isn't something that you casually contradict in a joke with out paying attention.  You wouldn't say "It looks just like me except with a human nose" even as a joke, unless it was already given that you weren't human, or at least weren't considered human.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 08:36, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::well, no matter how you look at it, he ''doesn't'' have a human nose, just like how homestar and the like don't have arms or pants, and those are mentioned all the time, too.  i don't think it has much bearing on ''what'' anybody is.  --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 08:54, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Except he said "human nose".  It would have been just like Homestar's arms if he just said "nose".  The humor in that, just like the humor in [[fingers]] is adding something to him that he should have but obviously doesn't.  It's the same way with the word human.  The humor in adding a human nose to him is that he has no nose and he's not human.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 09:00, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Naw, i agree with Neumannz, it's not notable beyond his lack of a visible one, whether he said human or not. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 09:02, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::I think that "human" here was intended to mean "realistic". These are not cartoon noses, or animal noses. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:08, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::I'm with E.L. Cool on this one.  I definitely think he meant shaped noses, with nostrils and a bridge and all that good stuff, as opposed to a simple little ball nose, like the one Stro Bro has on the side of the Puddin' Patch. -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 12:57, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
I think this joke has been referenced in [[alternate universe]] before. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 15:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== A mousy description? / Coach Z can't talk. ==

First, I'm not sure about that description of the Cheat's mural picture.  His pudginess and distinctive, if unlabelled, jar of Hunny seem to suggest Winnie the Pooh to me.  (The antennae, obviously, are out of place.)

Second, does Coach Z say "You're toys" or "You're twice"?  I definitely heard the latter, which I can imagine him saying because he's weird, but the former makes sense too.  Any thoughts? -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 12:54, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:yeah, i hear "twice" ---[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 16:06, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::I originally heard it as "toys" (and put it that way in the subtitles), but it now seems closer to "twice", even with Coach Z's accent. [[User:ZanderSchubert|ZanderSchubert]] 23:06, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Shut up, lady! ==

Have this voice and Strong Bad's response appeared enough times now for us to consider it a running gag?  I know it occurred in [[bottom 10]], and I think one other...though I wouldn't swear to it. -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 12:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:as noted in inside references, the second one was [[your funeral]]. i don't know enough about the rules of running gags to say whether this should be considered one.  --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 16:12, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

The "Jungle Animals in Non-Jungle Situations" thing reminds me heavily of the Cartoon Network show "My Gym Partner is a Monkey."  Anyone else?

: I think "Shut up, Lady" should be considered a running gag.  Three instances have warranted others to be added if my memory serves my correctly.  The fact we've seen it in 3 toons set far apart from each other tells me that TBC find it funny and would add it into future toons.  [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 17:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::Ummm, it is. It's [[Shut Up, Lady|here]]. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 17:39, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh... so it is. Uh, well... I'll... sports team. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 17:43, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Bubs' Merchandise ==
<s>Doesn't</s> Isn't Bubs selling a Strong Bad beanie cap? Should that go into teh "fun facts" section? &mdash;[[User:SpazZataKc|SpazZataKc]]

== Gunkistan? ==

Why got the Facts about Gunkistan being a portmanteau and a inside reference to Gunk Iller deleted?

:It may be because they're wrong...The portmanteau is less obviously incorrect, but technically -stan and is a suffix, a word in some language (Arabic) meaning "land," which is why it's used at the end of so many countries (Afghanistan = Land of the Afghanis, Kazakhstan = Land of the Kazakhs, etc.). This would make it not a portmanteau. As for the other one, being a reference to the Gunk Iller, I see no reason why this was up there in the first place. Gunk is a very common term for any gross, ambiguous substance.

::I disagree with you on the portmanteau subject. if you look at the [[Portmanteaus]] page you'll notice "Millionzoic", "Tenthennial" and "Geographist", all words with a general suffix. Gunkistan should be there too. Maybe I was a little off by saying that it's in particular park Pakistan, but that's the only country that have the letter K to form -kistan (Gun-Kistan). I'm not readding it still so it won't start to be and edit war, but I think it should be discussed. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 21:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Old Lady ==

Now that the Old Lady made a third appearance, should we revive her page? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 16:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Two things ==
1.) Are we sure Homestar is singing "broken glass?" because I heard "working class". 2.) Will the shady daycare be haunting anybody else's nightmares or just mine?

:"Working Class" makes no sense.  The pinatas were filled with broken glass as evidenced by the multiple lacerations and shards on Homestar's face.  Since Strong Bad asked Homestar to reveal what was contained there-in.  In true Homestar way he sung it. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 17:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:1) definitely broken glass, 2) just yours  --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 17:51, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

:"Working Class" makes so much more sense that its more than a little surprising that someone would post it.  The fact that they did it anonymously makes me wonder if it was another trollish post designed to incite an argument.  Its a wonder that someone didn't call this person names. -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]]
::there's still time for that --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Bubs arms. ==

Has anyone noticed that Bubs arms are animated the same way they were in Nightlife and how Coach Z's were in Trogday 08?--{{User:Kirbychu HR'D/sig}} 20:13, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yes. It's a new style design. Individually drawn per frame. It seems to be the way things are done from now on. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::yeah, we're not worrying about mentioning it anymore, since it's become standard and it's under bub's evolution page --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:27, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Toucan Sam, Zazu, and Cinderella ==

<blockquote>The cover of "Jungle Animals in Decidedly Non-Jungle Situations" has a variation of The Cheat similar to The Lion King (The Cheat resembles Zazu) and Toucan Sam, mascot of Froot Loops. The other is Cinderella.</blockquote> This is in desperate need of rewording, but first we need to decide what we're doing with it. It can't be Zazu and Toucan Sam. Isn't that TTATOT? I don't really think it's either. It's just a toucan. A random jungle animal. Also, are we sure the other DVD is a play on Cinderella? It seems likely, but not certain. But if so, it needs to be worded better.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 21:01, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

:Or is it just generally agreed that it's pointless to mention any of that crap?  I'm for that, too.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 21:11, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::I think the refernce to Zazu can go, but Toucan Sam should stay. The Cheat looks nothing like Zazu, beyond the blue color and big beak, nor does he look much like a real toucan, but the striped beak gives him a strinking resemlance to Toucan Sam. {{User:Exhibit A/sig}} 21:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Bioshock Reference? ==

Does the singing child at the daycare remind anyone else of the 2nd little sister sighting in Bioshock? The little sister is heard singing a song to the same tune, in a very creepy way. The fact that they're both singing the same tune, both children and the fact that it is very creepy in both cases suggests a reference, no?

:Senor Cardgage is not a child. And it's a common kid's tune. And Senor is always creepy, so it might not be a reference. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:31, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

==Toys R Us==

I think I saw a Toys R Us reference. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 22:16, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:We,, you may or may not be correct about that. It would depend on what you saw, which I have no idea what it was.... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:32, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::The drawings on the building. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:43, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Ugly Bird ==

Anyone else think that Homestar calling the swollen, floating The Cheat an "Ugly Bird" is a reference to... um... the one other email (I forget which one) where Homestar called a swollen, floating The Cheat an "Ugly Bird?"
: Someone else sure does, thats why they mentioned it in the article: ''The Easter egg where Homestar sees The Cheat float by and thinks he's an ugly bird is a reference to helium. '' -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]]

==Blood?==
Just wondering how blood is an "Inside Reference." You don't have to be a Homestar Runer fan to fully appreciate blood jokes. [[User:Catman87|Catman87]]
:Because blood is a recurring element/gag in some toons. The [[blood]] page ties all appearances of blood together in a list. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:00, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== This is like the best sbemail in a long while ==

It's awesome and good and classic and this is the best Bubs appearance since lunch special ;0
:that is a very forum-esque comment for a Talk page, so let's keep that to a minumum --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:29, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== beanies ==

Aren't those strong bad beanies that Bubs has a real item in the store? I'd check myself but I'm far too lazy.--[[User:97.82.22.53|97.82.22.53]] 00:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Murdered person at the daycare? ==

What's with the outline of the person? It looked like a person had been murdered or something.
:mentioned on the [[Papa Cardgage's PUDDIN' PATCH]] page  --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:32, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

==Disney DVDs==

The DVDs resemble Cinderella and The Lion King. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:08, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

==Toothbrush==

Could someone explain the toothbrush? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:it's a novelty "sugar toothbrush" which i guess means it spins the sugary SB head against a kid's teeth --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:30, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

What's it supposed to be a parody of? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:44, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:What that description brings to my mind is those Cap Spin Pop devices that spin the little lollipops while they are licked. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:48, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::That's what I was thinking too. It's a lollipop, not a toothbrush. Evidence: electric toothbrushes don't spin like that, there is no evidence of bristles of any kind, it's extremely lollipop-shaped, and the usage of words like "rot the teeth out of" and "sugar". Also, given the other unlicensed merch (and unlicensed merch in general), a spinning lollipop fits much better than a toothbrush. As such, the explanation about novelty toothbrushes should either be reworded or outright destroyed. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:52, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Note also that he's talking specifically about unlicensed confections at that point (if we weren't already clear...). -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 04:57, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Broken-Glass Soda? ==

Anyone else find the Broken Glass/Ugly Bird song similar to the "Never-ending Soda" song from 'anything'?
:There is a thread above on this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
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 ::Well, apparently, if everyone thinks it's something different, it has to be TTATOT.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 21:16, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 :::Not necessarily, because it's possible that all but one of those people are wrong. :)
-::::Just to clarify:  the song Homestar sings in [[anything]] is the same tune as the themesong from The Neverending Story;  that's an objective fact that can be demonstrated by anyone who knows musical notation.  If a bunch of people came in saying "I think it sounds like the theme from Night Court!" and "No, it's totally 'Yesterday' by the Beatles!" and "Wait, I could swear I heard that tune in a Bach fugue somewhere" and "Are you sure it isn't from Merzbow's new album?", that wouldn't make it TTATOT.  It would still actually be a reference to The Neverending Story, and all those other people would just be wrong.
-:::::No, it's not the same.  It's starts the same, but the end is different enough to make it obviously not the same.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 08:30, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
-::::::I think you misread me.  I'm talking about the song in [[anything]] ("The neverending soda"), not the one in [[licensed]].  I was using it as an example of a clear, indisputible reference, to make a more general point about the definition of "TTATOT."  This new one isn't a clear, indisputible reference to anything I've heard, although obviously I haven't heard everything.
 :::I agree with the Flintstones Kids theme. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 22:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
-::::There are a lot of unsigned posts here, but I am making the judgement that this is a TTATOT connection, and unless a really positive match arises for this to be a parody of, it's not anything. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:51, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
-::I think the above people are onto something with the Flintstones Kids theme.  For those who have knocked it, to clarify: this is referring to the 90's cartoon show, not the vitamin jingle, which is nothing alike.  The idea's not too far-fetched, and we ''know'' TBC have heard of it from the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7|TGS 7]] commentary.  Shall maybe everyone give it a listen to be sure?  I'm pulling it out of a decade-old memory here, avoiding listening to the link, and I think it's a fair match.  Should they be doing it from memory, like I am, isn't a teeny bit of off-keyness expected?  Plus, I mean...it's Homestar.  He's flat allthedang time. -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 14:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
-::: Yes, it sounds sort of kind of almost like the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xomL0HKwS0k Flintstone Kids] theme song, but it sounds as much like everything else mentioned above.  I vote for TTATOT. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 14:57, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
-::::The most convincing thing here is "walking on broken glass" which i have never heard, so i don't know if it sounds like it or not, but makes sense as it's ABOUT broken glass... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:00, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
-:::::Check it out. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GBn-BpkNsA "Walking on Broken Glass"] [[User:Havl|Havl]] 18:59, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
-::::::I have to go with "Walking on Broken Glass," too.  Yes, the tune HR sings has similarities to other tunes as well (which can't really be avoided, it's essentially "three notes, pause, three notes, pause, etc)", taking the subject matter of that song into account, it'd be too big of a coincidence to ignore, imo. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 22:35, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
-:::::::But "Walking on Broken Glass" goes note, up a note, down a note (ie, same as the first).  Homestar's song goes note, note, down a half note (except for the first "Broken glass" which admittedly has almost the same pattern, ie note, up a note, down a half note). [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 01:42, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-::::::::I agree that it's not exactly the same, which is why I'm actually more hesitant than my first post makes me out to be, looking at it again. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 03:15, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-:::::::::Juys. I'm that age where I know all these tunes. It's not any of them. At all. Trust me. I cannot yet divine what, if anything, that tune refers to. (Are you aware I perform and figure out songs professionally?) {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:04, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-::::::::::your job is to figure out what songs are being lampooned by others? huh. at any rate, no, i don't think most people were aware.  --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 05:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-:::::::::::...The Tom and Jerry Show... [[Special:Contributions/173.32.221.240|173.32.221.240]] 19:25, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 =="Human noses?"==
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 ::::::I'm with E.L. Cool on this one.  I definitely think he meant shaped noses, with nostrils and a bridge and all that good stuff, as opposed to a simple little ball nose, like the one Stro Bro has on the side of the Puddin' Patch. -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 12:57, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 I think this joke has been referenced in [[alternate universe]] before. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 15:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
-TBC have frequently referred to the h*r characters as "funny animal characters." --[[Image:qod_22_-_reynold.PNG|20px]] <span style="font-family:Times New Roman">[[User:Lelila|<span style="color:#530000">lelila</span>]] <small>[[User_talk:Lelila|<span style="color:#530000">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 22:17, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 == A mousy description? / Coach Z can't talk. ==
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 :yeah, i hear "twice" ---[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 16:06, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 ::I originally heard it as "toys" (and put it that way in the subtitles), but it now seems closer to "twice", even with Coach Z's accent. [[User:ZanderSchubert|ZanderSchubert]] 23:06, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
-:::I heard"toys" or "twoise". [[User:Justin Master of Nature|&#91;&#91;User:Justin Master of Nature&#124;Master of Nature]]]] 19:29, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
-:"Twice" would make a lot of sense, as there are two Strong Bads in the room.  One is, admittedly, a pinata.
 == Shut up, lady! ==
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 Have this voice and Strong Bad's response appeared enough times now for us to consider it a running gag?  I know it occurred in [[bottom 10]], and I think one other...though I wouldn't swear to it. -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 12:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 :as noted in inside references, the second one was [[your funeral]]. i don't know enough about the rules of running gags to say whether this should be considered one.  --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 16:12, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
+The "Jungle Animals in Non-Jungle Situations" thing reminds me heavily of the Cartoon Network show "My Gym Partner is a Monkey."  Anyone else?
 : I think "Shut up, Lady" should be considered a running gag.  Three instances have warranted others to be added if my memory serves my correctly.  The fact we've seen it in 3 toons set far apart from each other tells me that TBC find it funny and would add it into future toons.  [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 17:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
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 == Bubs' Merchandise ==
 <s>Doesn't</s> Isn't Bubs selling a Strong Bad beanie cap? Should that go into teh "fun facts" section? &mdash;[[User:SpazZataKc|SpazZataKc]]
-Yeah. it should. -Coleslaw
-Looks like the fourth item he's selling is The Cheat-shaped Post-It notes... see also [[secret recipes]]... [[User:Agnamaracs|Agnamaracs]] 22:12, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
 == Gunkistan? ==
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 ::I disagree with you on the portmanteau subject. if you look at the [[Portmanteaus]] page you'll notice "Millionzoic", "Tenthennial" and "Geographist", all words with a general suffix. Gunkistan should be there too. Maybe I was a little off by saying that it's in particular park Pakistan, but that's the only country that have the letter K to form -kistan (Gun-Kistan). I'm not readding it still so it won't start to be and edit war, but I think it should be discussed. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 21:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
-:::What about Kyrkistan? And almost Kazakhstan... [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 01:45, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-::::Ok, there's no Kyrkistan, but [[Wikipedia:-stan#Countries|there are]] Tajikistan and Uzbekistan as countries (as well as some made up ones in the section below). Is anyone else objecting to this fun fact? It's not TTATOT because of the many countries, but it's a reference to -stan in general. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:47, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-:::::There is no Kyrkistan???? I dont know but this country I am sitting in had a big sign at the Airport...Welcom to Kyrkistan. Got a beautiful view of the Himilayas, nice weather. But if you say so, I will roll with it. Just what country am I in?
-::::::Your ISP is in Kyrgyzstan. That does sound pretty similar to "Kyrkistan", I have to admit ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 08:02, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 == Old Lady ==
 Now that the Old Lady made a third appearance, should we revive her page? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 16:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
-We should if we have pages like [[Europa-pean Lobster]]. [[User:Tojo940|Tojo940]] 05:03, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
 == Two things ==
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 == Toucan Sam, Zazu, and Cinderella ==
-[[Image:Toucans.png|thumb|fourcans]]
 <blockquote>The cover of "Jungle Animals in Decidedly Non-Jungle Situations" has a variation of The Cheat similar to The Lion King (The Cheat resembles Zazu) and Toucan Sam, mascot of Froot Loops. The other is Cinderella.</blockquote> This is in desperate need of rewording, but first we need to decide what we're doing with it. It can't be Zazu and Toucan Sam. Isn't that TTATOT? I don't really think it's either. It's just a toucan. A random jungle animal. Also, are we sure the other DVD is a play on Cinderella? It seems likely, but not certain. But if so, it needs to be worded better.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 21:01, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 :Or is it just generally agreed that it's pointless to mention any of that crap?  I'm for that, too.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 21:11, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 ::I think the refernce to Zazu can go, but Toucan Sam should stay. The Cheat looks nothing like Zazu, beyond the blue color and big beak, nor does he look much like a real toucan, but the striped beak gives him a strinking resemlance to Toucan Sam. {{User:Exhibit A/sig}} 21:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
-:::Yeah, if it looks like anything, it's Sam.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 22:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
-::::I think it's generic, but the overall feel is the lion king. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:19, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
-:::::Zazu's not even a toucan. He's a hornbill. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:29, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
-::::::Although the colours are in a slightly different order, there is a clear similarity between Toucan The Cheat and Toucan Sam. This was the first thing I thought when I saw the DVD case.{{User:The Chort/sig}} 13:51, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-:::::::I agree, the colors, especially the black followed by the pink, are particularly reminiscent of Toucan Sam.  That's definitely what I thought too. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 18:35, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-::::::::Another one who thinks it looks like Toucan Sam.  Follow your nose! [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 08:40, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 == Bioshock Reference? ==
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 Just wondering how blood is an "Inside Reference." You don't have to be a Homestar Runer fan to fully appreciate blood jokes. [[User:Catman87|Catman87]]
 :Because blood is a recurring element/gag in some toons. The [[blood]] page ties all appearances of blood together in a list. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:00, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
-::Then shouldn't be called a "Running Gag" instead of a "Inside Reference?" [[User:Catman87|Catman87]]
-:::It refers, within the Homestar Runner universe, to the "blood" running gag. Does that make it clearer? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:13, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 == This is like the best sbemail in a long while ==
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 Aren't those strong bad beanies that Bubs has a real item in the store? I'd check myself but I'm far too lazy.--[[User:97.82.22.53|97.82.22.53]] 00:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
-:Yes they are (I own one), which is why it is mentioned in the article http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/licensed#Remarks [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 15:01, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
 == Murdered person at the daycare? ==
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 What's with the outline of the person? It looked like a person had been murdered or something.
 :mentioned on the [[Papa Cardgage's PUDDIN' PATCH]] page  --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:32, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
-It's just there too add a scary feeling to that daycare. -Coleslaw
 ==Disney DVDs==
 The DVDs resemble Cinderella and The Lion King. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:08, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
-:One problem, however is that The Lion King does not feature non-jungle situations.  I think "The Wild" would be a closer match. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 14:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
-::Someone suggested TaleSpin. Huh? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 23:07, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
-:::No, it represents The Jungle Book. [[User:76.173.92.70|76.173.92.70]] 23:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
-:::: Strong Bad makes it clear what these are and why they ''vaguely'' resemble Disney movies: "The ones that are slight variations of slightly animated kids' movies. The kind they put right next to the check-out line, so Grandma might accidentally mistake it for the real thing." When Disney releases an animated movie, knock-off companies rush their own ultracheap adaptations of the public domain source to the stores while the big budget version's still in theaters in order to get kids and grandmas to get all excited seeing "Aladdin" (or whatever) in the store and buy it. Go look at the cheap movie bin at a drugstore or the supermarket checkout racks sometime if you've never seen these. Not Bothering To Make An Account, 37:94 Forty-Terst Decembuary 20X8.
-For reasons I can no longer remember, I originally thought the "4" in the title of the Cinderella parody was a reference to the fact Disney made a Cinderella 3 last year. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:34, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-:Could be a reference to all the crappy sequals to old movies that they came out with for the past few years, cinderella 2 and 3 (and 4?) among them... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:36, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-Strong Bad as a ''lion'' with a (king's?) ''crown'' makes me think it's supposed to be The Lion King.  Of course, The Cheat looks a whole lot more like Toucan Sam than Zazu ...  Maybe it's an amalgam of several things.  (I certainly don't see TaleSpin, though!)  The other definitely looks like Cinderella to me (though his dress reminds me more of Snow White's ...)--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 14:26, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-:The TaleSpin thing is the desk, a reference to Sheer Khan's desk. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 02:19, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
-::That's wediculous. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:06, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
-All this opinion on which real-world movie this is it, can only make you more understand the joke. The DVDs are almost one thing, but not quite the other. Almost like Cardgage's speech. Don't try to overthink what particular story is each DVD, or try to break it down to pieces and put each piece in the right movie. That's just the whole joke. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:53, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-:As the article says (or said at one point, this cold makes me not bothering to check the page to see if it's still there), it's a reference to the slipshod animated features that two-bit companies come out with to coincide with Disney's feature film release dates. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 08:43, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
-Um, TaleSpin wasn't a Disney movie, it was a Disney tv show. but I digress. Anon, 20:50, 22 February 2008
-:As Awexome said... huh? [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 01:10, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
-::Because it has the word "jungle" in it, I thought it was The Jungle Book if it's not The Lion King. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 22:53, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 ==Toothbrush==
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 Anyone else find the Broken Glass/Ugly Bird song similar to the "Never-ending Soda" song from 'anything'?
 :There is a thread above on this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
-==Toothbrush description==
-I think the toothbrush description is incomplete. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 23:08, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
-:I couldn't find a detailed enough link. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:38, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
-I think the toothbrush does something that isn't mentioned in its description. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 23:56, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
-:It would be much easier for most of us if you could try to be specific. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:00, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
-::Or better yet, add to the Fun Facts section whatever it is you think would make the description complete, and I'll try to tell you if it's true. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:12, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
-::I think the top comes off. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 03:56, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
-== Homestar's Birthday ==
-When Homestar says that it was "his best birthdays ever", does this mean that his birthday is on February 19? {{User:The Teach!/Twig}}
-:You're assuming Homestar knows what he's talking about.  This is not a safe assumption.  [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 01:35, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-::So you're saying that he is so stupid that he doesn't even know whether it's really his birthday or not? {{User:The Teach!/Twig}}
-::: Seeing as how he doesn't even know he's not wearing pants, yes, I am saying he's that stupid. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 01:48, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-::::he does know about the pants, it's just sometimes traumatic to think about it ([[long pants]]) --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 05:05, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-:::::I says until they have a cartoon that specifically depicts his birthday, we can't really know.  There's no guarantee that they had the party that day, or that the party was on the same day as his actual birthday, or, as aforementioned, that Homestar had any idea what he was talking about.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 06:18, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-::::::That's like claiming that [[Nibbles|Nibbles']] birthday is on July 11 because that's the day [[bottom 10]] came out. The only birthdays we actually know are [[Happy Trogday|Trogdor's]] (Jan 13) and Stinkoman's (Jan 6). {{User:The Chort/sig}} 10:33, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
-:::::::And, I suppose, [[cheatday|cheatday]]. --[[Image:qod_22_-_reynold.PNG|20px]] <span style="font-family:Times New Roman">[[User:Lelila|<span style="color:#530000">lelila</span>]] <small>[[User_talk:Lelila|<span style="color:#530000">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 04:14, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
-::::::::Using the release dates of the toons in which they were created, I suppose we could say that Homestar's birthday is the day the [[Original Book]] was released.  As far as I know, we don't know the exact date for that, but we do know the exact date they made the [[Strongest Man in the World|tenth anniversary toon]]. So we can surmise that Homestar's birthday (as well as Strong Bad's, Pom Pom's, and The Cheat's) is on or near August 21st. (Remember, cheatday is the one day we know for sure The Cheat's birthday ''isn't'').--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}}
-==Guttenberg==
-Project Guttenberg is an online library.  I think this should be mentioned somewhere - Owen
-:guttenberg is a common last name, and a city, and this that and the other thing. No connection. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:26, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-::Guttenburg is a reference to the Guttenburg Bible. All other uses of it are also references to that. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-:::Which is, in turn, a reference to the man who made said bible, [[Wikipedia:Johannes Gutenberg|Johannes Gutenberg]]. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 05:43, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-::::Which is also, in turn, a reference to the man's father.  Moral of the story: unless there's a direct correlation between something and a common name, it's best not to make a reference to it. [[User:MNGoldenEagle|MNGoldenEagle]] 08:07, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-:::::For what it's worth, when I first saw Guttenberg, I thought of [[Wikipedia:Steve Guttenberg|Steve Guttenberg]] ...  So I agree.  Not a specific reference to anything.--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 14:37, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-==Intro==
-The intro sounds familiar. I'm thinking some kids show. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 19:48, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-==Disney==
-Is Disney becoming a running gag now? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 19:54, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-:Show me the other references. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 20:25, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-==Jungle Animal DVD==
-The desk on the Jungle Animal DVD reminds me of Becky's desk from TaleSpin. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 19:59, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-:look [[#Disney DVDs|up]] {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:00, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-== Beginning email song ==
-It appears that Strongbad is singing to the tune of "I'm Gonna Wash That Man Right Out Of My Hair"
-Can I get someone to second that? --[[User:68.166.201.226|68.166.201.226]] 23:42, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
-: The first couple of notes sound like it, but not the rest of it. --[[User:97.82.22.53|97.82.22.53]] 01:48, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
-== My Gym Partner Is A Strong Bad ==
-The "Jungle Animals in Non-Jungle Situations" thing reminds me heavily of the Cartoon Network show "My Gym Partner is a Monkey."  Anyone else?  (Oops, mistakenly put this as an edit rather than an addition.)
-== Papa Cardgage ==
-For the record, the song Frère Jacques and the song Where Is Thumbkin have the same tune, and judging from the lyrics, I think it was meant to be an allusion to Thumbkin, not Jacques :P
-== Internet Connection ==
-So... that shot from the back of Strong Bad's computer?  Yeah, there's definitely no phone or ethernet line connected back there, nor is there any card in his PCMCIA slot (not that I'd think the lappy was wifi-capable, anyway...) so I can only assume Strong Bad is not actually connected to the Internet.  I don't really think this is significant enough to be mentioned in the remarks section, but I thought I'd bring it up, anyway. --[[Image:qod_22_-_reynold.PNG|20px]] <span style="font-family:Times New Roman">[[User:Lelila|<span style="color:#530000">lelila</span>]] <small>[[User_talk:Lelila|<span style="color:#530000">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 22:22, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
-:It's especially not worth bringing up, as this [[Talk:isp#Lappy Back|isn't the first time we've seen the back of the Lappy]], either. Though I thought there was more discussion about his connection cables than that... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:46, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
-== Daycares ==
-Is it noteworthy to point out that the unlicensed-characters-in-daycares is a reference to how Disney started cracking down on people harmlessly having disney characters painted on their walls at daycares?
-:What connection is there to that specific incident? None. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:36, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
-::[http://www.snopes.com/disney/wdco/daycare.asp What are you talking about, DeFender1031?] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:47, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
-== Broken Glass ==
-Although Bubs says the items in his coat (among which the pinata is visible) are safe, the pinata had broken glass in it. Is this worth mentioning? [[User:Unbalanced|Unbalanced]] 19:16, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
-:I think that's worth a Remark.  Do it.  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:41, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
-::I think it's explaining the joke, and a remark would kinda insult the reader's intelligence. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:46, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
-Well, I tried adding it, but it got removed. Do you think we should STUFF it? [[User:Unbalanced|Unbalanced]] 17:20, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
-:I strongly feel it's unnecessary. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:23, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
-== The Cheat's "hurried" noise ==
-It seems to me that the way The Cheat sounded when rushing is unmistakably the same one used when he was flinged through the air by the Poopsmith in [[strong badathlon|email 165]]. Inside-References-worthy? --[[User:66.82.9.107|66.82.9.107]] 04:13, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
-:Totally! But why hasn't anybody added that yet? I'll add it myself if no one else will. --[[User:Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]] 15:57, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
-::Because they reuse a lot of noises, a lot of times, so, not noteworthy. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:03, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
-:::It's been 364 days since the last post, and I want to say that this The Cheat sound was only used twice. Should it go in the Remarks section instead? I still don't care if it doesn't. --[[User:Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]] 17:41, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
-== Closed STUFF ==
-{{stuffcloseddecline}}
-=== That's Not Candy! ===
-{{stufffact|Although Bubs says the items in his coat (among which the piñata is visible) are safe, the piñata had broken glass in it.}}
-{{stuffverdict|20:29, 8 March 2008 (UTC)|10:25, 19 March 2008 (UTC)|declined|15|5|licensed}}
-== Released on Tuesday ==
-When this email was first released, didn't Strong Bad reference that the email was released Tuesday night.  I am guessing they have changed it but I remember him saying that. ---[[User:Lefaid]]
-:Maybe you're thinking of [[yes, wrestling]]? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:14, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
-:Or [[ghosts]] (where he remarks on how it's not Monday)? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:16, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
-Thanks it was it was [[yes, wrestling]]  9:45, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
-== Math fact ==
-Much like the possibility in #152 ([[isp]]), the number of this email is a multiple of #38 ([[helium]]), so do you think that would have something to do with the cheat puffing like a balloon?
-:Like my [[Talk:isp#Math fact|response there]], i still have no idea what you are talking about. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:51, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
-::Those things are most likely a coincidence, so they should not be mentioned in the article. As for your remark at [[Talk:isp]], when you wondered why 152/38=4, Strong Mad, the one affected by the helium, is the fourth character to appear in the email. Same goes for this email: 190/38=5, The Cheat is the fifth character to appear. If your going to do numerology, do it the right way ;) Still, it's just a coincidence. Also, please sign your posts (type <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to do so.) {{User:The Commander IN COMMAND/sig}} 18:44, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
-== Disney??? ==
-It never once even crossed my mind that the DVDs shown were based on Disney sequels as the fact currently states (I reverted an edit that expanded the "reference" thinking it ''added'' it, until I looked closer.) It looks more like the bad Disney ''knockoffs'' that sit near the checkout stand in many department stores, that almost always have the same (or similar) subject as contemporary Disney movies. That fits better with the context of the email's theme, too. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:42, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
-:Agreed. It's got nothing to do with the disney sequels, and everything to do with the knockoffs. That's the point of this email in the fist place. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:57, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
-::Should I baleete the whole fact or just the part about sequels? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 21:33, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
-DeFender, can I ask you to make up your mind about the subject?  [[#Disney DVDs|Earlier]], you said, "Could be a reference to all the crappy sequals...", but here you say, "It's got nothing to do with the disney sequels...", so I tried to remove it from the Wiki's [[Disney]] article, but you [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Disney&diff=next&oldid=628623 reminded me] not to remove "legitimate content".  Do you or do you not think it's a parody of Disney sequels? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 01:40, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
-:::This was a while ago, and i don't remember every post i make, but I'm pretty sure i'm commenting about two separate things. I think what i was saying was that the high sequel number is a reference, but the rest of it is not, but like i said, it was a while ago. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:26, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
-== Coach Z's Hand ==
-I was watching this on my DVD and noticed that Coach Z's hand must have been made in the same flash image as the pinata and string because, as it (the pinata) swings, his hand rotates. Is this a goof like it was done just to make animating easier, or is this supposed to happen. I watched this on my tv, so it's kinda harder to see on the computer. Viewing the flash file helps. So, what do you think? -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 00:10, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
-== In Decidedly Non-Jungle Situitions ==
-Is there a page for "Jungle Animals In Decidedly Non-Jungle Situations"? {{User:C-Son-L Sweaters/sig}} 23:44, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
-== no human nose ==
-I don't know if I'm just confused or if this is a real fun fact.Strong Bad says that one of the requirements in order to sell unlicensed products of him and The Cheat, one of them must have a human nose,but of of their products show them without human noses.I think this is notable. {{User:Wasd98/sig}} 01:08, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
-:Well, yeah, he says that a requirement to ''sell'' unlicensed stuff is that one of them has to have a human nose.  He never says that characters ''in the products'' have to have human noses. And, they are never seen actually selling their items. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 01:14, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
-::Erm, I don't think either of those really apply, StrongAwesome. Anyway, on the DVDs, The Cheat has weird noses, but not HUMAN noses. The Cheets and Strong Brush don't have human noses, either, though each only represents one character. I'd say notable, for the DVDs especially. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:17, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
-== Twice? ==
-I think it should be footnoted that Coach Z (in my opinion) may have said "Hey Strong Bad look, you're toys!". I just can't hear twice, although I hear the W, I don't hear the I. --[[User:Still Homsar|Still Homsar]] 16:12, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
-:I happen to agree. Toys also makes more sense contextually. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:13, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
-::The Coach's accent is a little hard to hear clearly, but in the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEkZI8vGDxo DVD version], it's clearly "twice". Seeing as it's a pinata, and it's made to look like Strong Bad, both "toys" and "twice", respectively, don't make ''perfect'' sense, but you can hear "twice" clearly. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 20:28, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
-:::Still, taking Coach Z's accent, it could be Toys, as I can only hear a slight W, and I'm listening at 90% volume. It could, at least, be placed as a footnote, until we get some sort of confirmation. --[[User:Still Homsar|Still Homsar]] 20:43, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
-::::Twice. the last sound isn't voiced enough for it to be "toys". and as for not making perfect sense, that's what [[Twice|this]] is for. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:13, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
-:::::I knew this'd be exactly what'd happen, I'm just saying it kinda sounds like it, and the page Twice doesn't make it make sense, since Twice makes sense in other contexts, but saying Toys would still make sense, as he is holding a Strong Bad toy, and that he is in form of one. Although Twice also makes sense as he is referring to duplication, so that's why I suggested a footnote. --[[User:Still Homsar|Still Homsar]] 21:45, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
-::::::Well, we scarcely use footnotes, and only when there's never a clear consensus, and ''and'' as a last option. We never think footnote as the first thing to do. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 22:23, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
-:::::::Like I say on my user page, I'm pretty new here. I was just saying, it sounds like toys. Not twice. I guess it's you big admin guys' descisions, so I'll be quiet. --[[User:Still Homsar|Still Homsar]] 22:33, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
-::::::::As a matter of fact, only one admin has posted so far, and he agrees with you. However, one of our policies for talk pages is to treat everyone's opinion equally, regardless of sysop, ordinary user, anonny, etc. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 22:36, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
-:::::::::I really can't hear anything here but "twice". First, the "w" is pretty clear, and that vowel, while Coach Z'd a bit, still sounds a lot more like "i" than "oi". {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:23, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
-:::::::::: I hear twice.... i can Kinda make "toys" out, but we would have to go into the details to figure it out. lessee..... Someone go into the voice, um, sound with your computer and listen to it chopped up... I have a feeling we will know by that. [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]]