Editing Talk:Sightings

==More on The Wotch==
Thanks to this website, I discovered The Wotch. I noticed that [http://www.thewotch.com/022703.html the cheerleaders] (only AFTER they become cheerleaders - you'll understand why I make that point if you read it) have "TG" on their shirts, and one of them has [[Cheerleader]]'s pigtails. You guys wanna call it a reference or a coincidence? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:51, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
:Well, the name of their school is Tandy Gardens High, and according to [http://www.thewotch.com/FAQ.html their FAQ], the writers chose the initials TG for transgender. I'd say it's just a coincidence. (Neat little comic, though!) -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:58, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
:: Oh. Well, I guess I didn't know the school's name. Still, they DID make a clear H*R reference in another comic (which is sorta how I discovered its existence in the first place - see the Sighting article page.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:03, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==Possible "Dominic Deegan" reference?==
I caught this link from another web-comic I read and I was reading through the archives when I stumbled across [http://www.dominic-deegan.com/d/20020923.html this comic].  It looks like the back of Strong Bad's head, kinda, but the line the character says is DEFINITELY something Strong Bad would say.  Can anyone confirm or deny that this is a HSR reference?
: Oh! I forgot all about that DomDeeg comic! (Seen it before.) Yes, it was agreed upon by me and one of my online contacts that the comic in question does indeed include a Strong Bad cameo. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:56, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==Small question==
Is the word/exclamation "huzzah!" directly linked to Homestar Runner or is it something generally used? Because I've spotted it in some game.

[[User:King Nintendoid|King Nintendoid]] 08:48, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

"Huzzah" is an exclamation used back in the old days in England, and possibly elsewhere. So no, it's not technically a sighting. --[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]

Ok. Nah.. I saw it in Paper Mario 2, and I wondered....

[[User:King Nintendoid|King Nintendoid]]

==Buffy==
The "buffy" link is broken. --[http://www.jonnydigital.com JD]

== Cheat ==

I'm not sure, but the Cheat section looks like it's been defaced. -[[User:oddtodd]]

* I went ahead and fixed it myself. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 21:43, 19 Nov 2004 (MST)

== ''One Ring To Rule Them All 2'' ==

This belongs in the Discussion section:

*no, i belive that music is "the Entertainer" a Rag time jazz song from the early 1890's by Scott Joplin.

No idea who wrote it, but it's about the background music in the middle of "One Ring To Rule Them All 2."  (moved by [[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 21:43, 19 Nov 2004 (MST))

I wrote it - [[User:Ooy|Futuramaooy]]

== Enough with the Burnination "sightings" ==

Folks, please consider what refers to what.

Is it possible that [[TBC]]'s "Burnination" refers to videogames that pre-date H*R? I mean, it can't be the other way around. Seriously: How could Final Fantasy 1 and 2 '''''refer''''' to H*R? Those go back to the late 1980s. [[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 13:15, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

Answer: It's the remakes. The line was added in to the new version on Game Boy Advance. Note that it says "Dawn of Souls". -Tom H.

*Oh, I see. My bad [[User:beanluc|beanluc]]

== Regular Chat ==

Holy crap! I'm like, an hour away from Hershey Park! I'm totally going there sometime now! Are they still doing the HR face paintings?

== Cruxshadows Cd ==

On A Cd From Darkwave Band Cruxshadows (pronunces Croo-shadows) the thank you in the back says homestar runner
ill try to scan a pic later

== Possible Reference? ==

Just tell me, is "heart of a lion" a common phrase, because Ryan Seacrest from American Idol just said it a few minutes ago. --[[User:205.188.116.197|205.188.116.197]]

:It's been a common phrase for centuries. See [[Wikipedia:Richard I of England|Richard the Lionheart]]. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 19:19, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Table of Contents ==

In my opinion, it's getting too big and should be removed. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 19:42, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)


==This Website Made a Reference!==

Do we really need all sightings of the form "this webcomic / blog / whatever made a Homestar Runner reference"? It isn't very interesting to list every two-bit webcomic writer who sticks "burnination" in their comic. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 21:14, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

I agree. Although the extremely popular sites (Such as Yahoo, Google, Maddox, etc.) should stay. --[[User:radiodj19|radiodj19]] 12:01, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Trim ==
This page ''really'' needs to be trimmed.  It's getting way too long.  I believe we should go through and remove all the minor HSR sightings and anything that could possibly be a stretch, leaving only major sightings (for example, Trogdor on Buffy, Asplode mentioned on Google blog, etc.).  Any other comments on this?  [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:05, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)
:Frankly, I'd love it if we could just clear 'em out to a subpage, or split it up with those... why exactly were we fiercely against those again? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 12:12, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)
:That's what I was thinking when I made the post in the header above ^^^ (This Website Made a Reference!) There's just too many tiny, minor things here. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 12:18, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

I agree that this page needs an overhaul, but I'm a little choked that the [[Wikipedia:Smax|Smax]] ref got cut. That comic is fairly major (it is [[Wikipedia:Alan Moore|Alan Moore]] after all) and it is rife with references. I would like to see this added back at some point. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 15:19, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Boo! Bad deletion. I know it was crowded, but you got rid of a few good ones. Like that Fosters one I thought was hilarious. I liked it better before. Much better. I'm thinkin' it might be better if we just split the original version of this page up into several pages. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 16:16, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I've restored everything that was removed.  I think the discussion needs to be completed before someone (who I notice wasn't even part of the discussion) removes stuff.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:33, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I'm glad that all the references were restored. A lot of the deletion seemed arbitrary to me. I was thinking, maybe we could have a system for Sightings similar to the Fun Facts system? Then we could vote on which to keep and which to toss. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 18:17, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::Eep.  I think we should avoid anything like the STUFF thing.  Discussion pages are where it's at.  Or where it should be?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:42, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

Okay, I just removed the cleanup notice at the top of the page, since it seems to be encouraging people to remove references willy-nilly (this is the second instance, unless they were the same person). I think we should come to a consensus as to how the article should be cleaned up before putting up a cleanup notice. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 14:41, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)


I think we should have the main catagories, and make them links into that section like:

[[Sightings/Television|Television]] 

[[Sightings/Games|Games|Games]]

ect

and stuff like that, it'll shorten the page and make it easier to see some "ddouble sightings" - [[User:Ooy|Futuramaooy]]--[[User:144.137.169.213|144.137.169.213]] 01:44, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

:Well, we definately need to do something with this page. It's bigger than a hippo on sterioids. But subpages are never allowed, says InterruptorJones. Maybe a "Sightings" namespace with all the references in an actual page? (Example: [[Sightings:Comics]], [[Sightings:Advertising]], etc.). Anyone like this idea? 
:And while were at it, there is some terrible grammar and spelling and overall bad use of the wiki standards sitting here. But the largeness of the page seems to be the case for now. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>''
::I hope nobody minds; I put the first three pages through SpellCheck before I noticed the Project Page notice was totally from last year.--{{User:The4sword/sig}} 06:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Basic Sightings ==
I saw a guy at the YMCA a few weeks back and he was wearing a star shirt. Could it be? [[User:unknown|unknown]] 3/21/05 12:00

:Could it be what?  You trying to be funny?  Or you mocking this article?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:18, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

=="unknown" note==

Ok, look guys, I'm sorry I crapped up the sightings page. I might be able to save it. I saved the page before I edited it, like I always do. I think I can copy everything on that page I saved and paste it over the text I crapped up. It's risky, but it's worth a shot. [[User:unknown|unknown]] 3/22/05 10:01

:It has already been reverted.  Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:18, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)



== Used in Flash 8 Demo ==
I've got a link to a video and mirrors of a [[http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/ Flash]] Development Con where [[Homestar Runner]] and [[The Homestar Runner]] appear as example graphics and animations and have some of the new effects applied to them that will be coming out in Flash 8. What section of the article should this 'sighting' be listed under?
[[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] 16:39, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:How about "Really Cool"?  I can't think of anything better than the [[Sightings#OTHER|Other section]], but sometimes for really cool videos and the like we create a whole article for them.  Are you up to it?  Do you think it would be worth it?  What's the link?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::Well, the characters only appear for a small part of it. Though I thought it was worth adding since out of all the cartoons on the web, the '''Developers of Flash its self''' picked Homestar to use in their first ever presentation of the new technology. The link is [[http://www.moock.org/blog/archives/000146.html here]]. Any of those links will take you to the same video at diffrent quality settings. I'd like to get this down as my first contribution here though so please don't anyone else post to the article. ^^; It might however be worth afterwards, someone either cropping the video to the relavent section or creating a HRWiki Mirror of the file. -- [[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] 17:00, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:::I have it on screen, and I can get a snapshot of it. Also, I have a screen recorder that can allow me to get the specific sections of the movie which Homestar is included. Should I?-- <tt><sub><span style="color:#cc3333;">Posted by:</span></sub> [[User:-erson|<span style="color:#000066;">-erson</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:-erson|<span style="color:#cc3333;">Talk</span>]]</sup></tt>  18:35, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:::: Sure, I think capture everything from when Homestar appears to a sutible pause after The Homestar Runner disappears. I'll post up the main links and description. Check back in a while and append on your media and add the screenshot if you like.. since I still don't know how to do that on Wiki's. o.O -- [[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::::: I know how to insert snapshots, but not the video. Can anyone explain it to me?-- <tt><sub><span style="color:#cc3333;">Posted by:</span></sub> [[User:-erson|<span style="color:#000066;">-erson</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:-erson|<span style="color:#cc3333;">Talk</span>]]</sup></tt>  20:35, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:::::: The movie you'll need to host somewhere and then provide a link to it. I'd try contacting who ever it is that hosts the mirrors of the old versions of the flash files that are nolonger found on H*R.com such as the old menus. -- [[User:Nidonocu|Nidonocu]] 12:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Mr. Incredible vs. Trogdor/Progrum? ==

Twice now, I've discovered that people have added that "The Incredibles" makes a reference to Peasant's Quest, when Mirage calls Mr. Incredible's outfit "rather dashing". Such a thing is hideously unlikely. The voices for animated movies are often recorded MONTHS before the movie is actually completed (so the animation can be synched with the voices - it's much more difficult to do it the other way around). The release of The Incredibles (November 5, 2004) and Peasant's Quest (August 2, 2004) were too close. Anyway, "rather dashing" is a semi-common phrase that did not originate with Peasant's Quest. Without something a little more solid connecting the two, there is no reason to believe that the line was added because of Homestar Runner. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:I agree with Jay. When I watched the movie I was like "Wow, she said Rather Dashing, I bet that some user is going to consider this a reference." I highly doubt it is, rather dashing is actually a common phrase. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 12:39, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:The phrase is why he's called Rather Dashing. "You are Rather Dashing. Your cottage" etc.

Also In The Pixar Story (Found On WALL-E 2- and 3-Disc Sets) John Lasseter says "Progrum" somewhere around the first few minutes

== Road Waffles ==

someone had mentioned this sighting but couldn't remember where it was, so I (Eight, the author of said comic) decided to wiki it up for y'all. [[http://www.roadwaffles.com/archive-rw.php?c=2003-7-23 "pop culture reference!"]]

:Thanks man. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:16, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

== Significant vs insignificant ==

[[User:Thunderbird_L17|TBird]] and I are planning on creating a second page for the more important fun facts (such as the Buffy, the Ryan S, the Maecromedia Flash Player 8, nothing that involves a random t-shirt wearing or toon watching). The discussion is on [[User_talk:-erson|My Talk Page]] if you want to see. What other signtings are significant enough to me moved this new page? Is this new page even a good idea? -- <tt><sub><span style="color:#cc3333;">Posted by:</span></sub> [[User:-erson|<span style="color:#000066;">-erson</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:-erson|<span style="color:#cc3333;">Talk</span>]]</sup></tt>  12:48, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:Personally, like I have said before, I think we should have a Sightings namespace (for example, <nowiki>[[Sightings:Magazines]] or [[Sightings:Television]]</nowiki>. We could just list them on the regular [[Sightings]] page in a short list. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>''

::Well basically my main problem is with the more minor web cartoons. Where does a sighting end, and a fanstuff begin? That's the main question. I think some kind of standard should be set, just how well known a sighting is to be accepted. Like... LIKE STUS! Select The Usable Sighting, or something. Anybody else wanna share their two cents? ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔</font>]][[User:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>Thunderbird</font>]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔</font>]]</tt>'' 02:10, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

== Rodney's Gonna Have To Jump ==

I'm iffy about the "Gonna have to Jump" line from Robots being related to Homestar, but I haven't seen the movie in question. I can't find any links on the web connecting the two, so like The Incredibles, I'm more than willing to chalk it up to coincidence. (Having seen TI, I'm 100% confident that it's no reference there.) Thoughts? From someone who's actually seen the movie? --[[User:Jay|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''Jay''</span>]] [[User talk:Jay|<span style = "color: #006030"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]] 05:24, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I remember he said that, but I'm not sure if it was intentional.-Alice 03:48, 8 May 2005

== Guild Wars ==

I wonder why this is not here already, but on NCSoft/ArenaNet's new Online Role Playing Game, there are fire skills which contain Rodgort e.g 'Rodgort's Invocation' and 'Mark of Rodgort'.
Rodgort backwards is obviously Trogdor, and seeing as they are fire skills and 'Rodgort's Invocation' symbol contains a dragon, its likely this is a sighting (or at least an obscure reference). There are also creatures in the game called trogs, dont know if this is related but could be.
: I coulda sworn it used to be - but it wasn't there, even before Trogga's removal of anything and everything online. Maybe it was deleted by someone who didn't know any better when I wasn't paying attention? I dunno. --[[User:Jay|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''Jay''</span>]] [[User talk:Jay|<span style = "color: #006030"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]] 03:54, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

: There's also a "shout" skill that makes your character yell "For Great Justice", a possible reference to Zero Wing, so a HR reference doesn't seem that far-fetched.  A "trog" creature is probably NOT a reference, I've seen creatures named this in other videogames. --[[User:ClamIAm|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''ClamIAm''</span>]]
::there are no such things as "trogs" in guildwars.

== Kim Possible Cowinky Dink? ==

In Kim Possible, during the "Oh Boyz" episode, one band member was wearing a sleeveless red shirt with a white star. Coincidence?

:Yes. White star on red? Red is a color and star is a common shape. Putting them together randomly isn't a Homestarrunner reference.
::I'd consider it a reference ONLY if by "sleeveless" you meant he didn't have anything to stick his arms through. :) {{User:Zoom/sig}} 00:03, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

== Where did all the sightings go? ==

I'm not sure when the last time I checked the sightings page was, but I'm fairly sure the page was twice as long before. Some of the genuine sightings have gone (i.e. Macromedia Flash Player 8 Demo), as well as all of the comic sightings (online or otherwise). Did someone take the notice on top of the page a little too seriously or something? --[[User:Venusy|<font face="commodore 64">Venusy</font>]] <sub><tt>([[User talk:Venusy|Talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Venusy|Contributions]])</tt></sub>, 16:29, 11 May 2005 (BST)
:Someone deleted a ton. Again. Who's up to bringing them back? -- '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]''''' 16:47, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
:: It was Trogga's doing, if I'm not mistaken. I didn't do anything about it because the page ''really was'' cluttered, but yeah, he might have gone too far. --[[User:Jay|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''Jay''</span>]] [[User talk:Jay|<span style = "color: #006030"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]] 16:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
:::He did. The Macromedia one was rather significant, same with the Zelda Comic one. I think he just removed them because of the cleanup template. Perhaps we could elaborate more on how it should be cleaned up? Anyway, I say bring them back. -- <tt><sub><span style="color:#cc3333;">Posted by:</span></sub> [[User:-erson|<span style="color:#000066;">-erson</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:-erson|<span style="color:#cc3333;">Talk</span>]]</sup></tt>  18:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
::::Just read his user talkpage, and noticed he's removed a bunch of information from other pages too. I think this is a similar case. But now one problem, how do we re-add all the other sightings but keep the updates since they were removed?
:::Also think I'll point out that when I split the page, I also brought back all (or most) of those sightings Trogga deleted. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]''''' 01:44, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

==Split Page==
There, I put each category onto its own page. That helps cut down space a lot, and should really help lower the problem. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]''''' 00:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

:Holy carp, great job Joshua! That looks a whole lot more organized. On a scale from cool to awesome, you rate a super-great! &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>''

==Jughead's double digest==
In the newest issue of Jughead's double digest, Jughead said he was having a garage sale, and Reggie said "You forgot the 'b'. It should be a garbage sale." Coincidence? -Alice

:Doubtful. &rarr;<small>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</small>|<sub>([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])</sub>

::If anything, [[TBC]] copied from archie. It's too soon for vice-versa. It's not a sighting, and it's a pretty obvious pun. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:13, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

==12:00==
In [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_Dynamite Napoleon Dynamite], when Uncle Rico is about to show his football tape, the VCR is blinking 12:00. It might be that the time was 12:00, but it looked like it was blinking it. Sighting? --Kutchipatchi (who lost her password)

:Based on your description, no, not a sighting. A blinking "12:00" is a default display for most VCRs. -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:46, 8 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Clean Up ==

Not really the main Sightings page itself, but more of the other sightings pages, such as [[Television Sightings]].
*The top summaries could probably use some work.
*They all need to be working with the [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]]. Which means links, grammar, etc.
*They all need to follow the same format.
*[[Skins Sightings]] should probably be merged with [[Other Sightings]].
{{User:FireBird/sig}} 14:56, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Skins Sightings is crossing into fanstuff a bit much for my taste. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:01, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)

==Something on Fantastic 4==

I recently saw Fantastic 4 and on Johnny Storm's(aka The Human Torch) car, his front license plate said TORCH'D. Possible TGS reference? [[User:Imwithcrazy|Imwithcrazy]]

I guess so, but many people accross the US do that on their own licence plates.--[[User:witchesbrew82|witchesbrew82]] 15:28, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Oh, ok, it's just when I saw it, it reminded me of the [[Arrow'd Guy]].
[[User:Imwithcrazy|Imwithcrazy]]

==Robots?==
Is that really a reference?  A lot of people say "Look's like I'm gonna have to jump!".--[[User:witchesbrew82|witchesbrew82]] 15:28, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I dunno, if he said it like Dangeresque, then it most likely is a reference. Otherwise, it probably isn't. [[User:Imwithcrazy|Imwithcrazy]]

==TGS'D!==
Seriously,people,just because there's a certain word in a webcomic with
'D! at the end of it doesn't always make it a reference to TGS. The comic page '''''REALLY''''' needs to be cleaned up. [[User:Imwithcrazy|Imwithcrazy]]

==A "Coincidence" Section==

(Warning: It's entirely possible that this is a really bad idea.) I think it might be neat to have a "coincidental sightings" section... Like, for example, if a cow lamp appeared in some TV show. It's not a *reference*, but it's a noteworthy coincidence. It'd be a place for the things that seem like references, but we know aren't. Although, I don't know if that sort of thing happens a lot... and it would probably spark a lot of argument... So I'm not officially proposing this, but it's a thing to consider, maybe. -[[User:Polly|Polly]] 15:17, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

That might be a good idea, but there would be ''SO'' many things and it would be really messy. --[[User:bkmlb|bkmlb]] 15:38, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Dead links ==

Should we really keep the sightings with dead links up? Because it seems kind of stupid to say "this site ''used to'' have a picture of Homestar" or something like that. [[User:Imwithcrazy|Imwithcrazy]]

== Deletion ==

This page seems an unnecessary duplication of the effort of [[:Category:Sightings]] and the Sightings template. Furthermore, the hotlinking images notice is out of place, because there are no longer any images (or anything) on the page. Let's just delete it and change all links to this page to links to [[:Category:Sightings]]. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 16:47, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Do not delete. Too many links from other places direct people here.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:49, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Also, category pages should not contain articles.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:50, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::1. This isn't an article. It's a brief description of what a sighting is, which is fine for the header of the Sightings category.
:::2. We should change all the links to [[:Category:Sightings]], and leave a redirect to that page here for external sites. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 16:51, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::The Category namespace should never contain article content.  That is what the article namespace (also called the main namespace) is for.  Regardless of what the actual content of an article is, it still remains an article.  Also note that this has [[User talk:Drhaggis#Inside Jokes|come up]] [[HRWiki talk:FAQ#Category Redirect not working?|before]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:57, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::What about the Character Evolution page? It was deleted and replaced with a category. - '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]'''''

::Anyway, I say we keep this page, if nothing else than to keep this talk page, with has a lot of lengthly discussions. - '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]'''''


:::There isn't any article or content here, though, just "Homestar is taking over the world! Visit a Sightings page!" There's no content to be kept. Also, if we deleted it, we could move the discussion to the talk page of the category. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:12, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::I say keep. This page is useful and fun, I might add. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]]<sup>[[User_talk:Homsar999|DaAaAaA!]] 18:29, 31 Aug 2005 (CDT)</sup>

:::::As stated before, me and Tom have been over this before, in the [[Inside Jokes]]/[[Running Gags]] instance. I say keep, and revise to add a bit more of an overview of 'sightings'. Maybe meantion a few of the more notable ones, maybe describe a few of the categories, ect. Lengthen the article to about a paragraph or so. I'll add it to my to do list. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:46, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::::That sounds good to me. I'm removing it from deletion, then. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 23:52, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Move it to Fanstuff ==

Ok. Listen to me before you decline this. The sightings we list are made by fans. If it's the director of Buffy or the author of a webcomics, this person is a fan, and everything fan-made, is listed on the Fanstuff wiki. It have no to place here in the Knowledge Base. It's not official material that is off the site like the [[:Category:Side Projects|side projects]] or the [[TMBG Concert - 25 Sep 2004|TMBG concert]]. What do you think? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:38, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

:The Fanstuff wiki is for fan submitted material.  The fan themself submits it.  The Buffy creator isn't going to come and submit his show in a page there.  Here at the knowledge-base, we use the Sightings series of articles to report on appearances of Homestar Runner in popular culture, TV shows, etc.  I see it as knowledge-base content.  It could use some cleaning up and standardizing, for sure, but it belongs here.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:05, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

::What about [[HRFWiki:Not Without My Application|Not Without My Application]]? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:27, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

:::It looks like it's covered under [[Animation Sightings#High Score]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:37, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

::That was placed there in the early stages of the Fanstuff Wiki, probably when users were struggling to get good fanstuff. It's appearance there has been questioned in the past, although nothing has been done as it isn't exactly urgent. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 19:38, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

:::So what? The fact that it is listed there only makes my case stronger. I think that some years ago, when Homestar was an underdog and the sightnings were few, this page had some merit. But now it's like listing sightnings of Bill Clinton! If this was moved to Fanstuff each sightning can have page for itself with fun facts and transcripts. The move will also remove the question "Where does a sightning stop and fan stuff begins?" {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:58, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
:Firstly, this does not belong in the Fanstuff Wiki. Not Without My Application doesn't belong in the Fanstuff Wiki, and I'm planning on moving it elsewhere. (Like the Bonus Stage wiki, perhaps.) Also, sightings end and fanstuff begins when the feature is ''focused'' on Homestar Runner. That's why Not Without My Application isn't really a sighting either. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 20:37, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

::So why not expend Fanstuff Wiki to include sightnings? As I wrote, it's not part of the Knowladge Base. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 20:41, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

:::Because most of these things ''aren't'' fanstuff. There's like... only one of two things here that can be classified as Homestar Runner Fanstuff. And there's no reason to expand the Fanstuff Wiki to put in a bunch of random sightings. It's better like this. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 20:53, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

::::So you say we keep a "bunch of random sightings" in here? You know, I never realy liked this page. The only reason why I offered to move it, is that all the people who contributed won't be forgotten. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 21:05, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::It's important to note that just because these items are made by fans of Homestar Runner, that doesn't make them "fanstuff" in the same way things on the fanstuff wiki are fanstuff.  The way we use the word isn't just a simple "fan + stuff = fanstuff" equation.  The fanstuff wiki requires that a user submit their own work.  As Joshua noted, the [[HRFWiki:Not Without My Application|Not Without My Application]] page E.L. Cool brings up should not be there like that.
:::::The knowledge-base can report on and document instances of Homestar Runner appearing in popular culture, etc.  That's what we do, we document everything about Homestar Runner.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:55, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::But it's impossible to list them all. It's like listing sightnings of Google! Almost the whole world knows about it. I'll say we ether cut it down drasticaly or remove it completely. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 20:18, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::Yes, there's a lot of it, and yes, it could be cleaned up, but it definitely belongs on the knowlegdge base as opposed to the fanstuff wiki. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:13, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

== Censor Notice ==

I beleive these sightings page should have an "obscene language/imagery" notice template appended to these, some of these links can either have obscene language in other parts of the site, or risque images. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:56, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

:I agree, we've even had to delete some of them because it had to do with cruelty and nudity. A notice somewhere around here would be more appropriate. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 21:59, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
:2nd. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 22:01, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
::Agreement. Even though I have no problem with such, others might. And I always think of others. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I think we should individually put brief censor notices next to each link that leads to inappropiate content. That way younger uses can check out the good while avoiding the bad. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:32, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
::::I also add that we have censored versions of interviews, when necessary. This would be related. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Yeah, I think having both notices would be a great idea: a general explanatory notice, and then wherever possible short warnings next to selected content. As for interviews: I know that the [[Inkhole Interview]] has a [[Inkhole_Interview_%28censored%29|censored]] version. The [[:Category:Interviews_and_Public_Appearances|category]] itself shows several interviews already with censored versions. It is possible that the rest did not need censoring. The [[Interviews and Public Appearances]] page links first to the uncensored versions and I think should either link first to the censored versions or provide links to both. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 13:00, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
I have created the following two templates: {{tl|sitelanguagenotice}} and {{tl|sightingslanguagewarning}} for the aforementioned notices. The Animation Sightings page has it, and so does [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Animation_Sightings&diff=213282&oldid=213281 this] section. I will be adding the notice to the other sightings pages.  Please be aware that the wording may be a little ad hoc.  So if you can come up with better wording. Cool! That would be {{quote|da bearm}}! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:12, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

== Different Break Down ==

This is just an idea that will probably get rejected, but I think that this page would be more useful if, instead of breaking the sigtings up by media, we broke them up by topic. For example, a separate page for all the sigtings of "Burninate", etc. We could then create a page for Possible References so that there would be fewer arguments over what is a sighting and what isn't. I feel like this would definately make the sightings more organized. If you guys like it, I'd be willing to do the moving. Just my thought. -[[User:AtionSong|<font face="BankGothic Md BT">AtionSong</font>]] 21:30, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

: These were the categories that I think we should break this into:

* Sightings of Trogdor & "Burninate"
* T-Shirt Sightings
* Possible Sightings
* Apostrophe D ('D) Sightings
* Peasant's Quest Sightings
* Mention of homestarrunner.com
* Mention of Characters
* Quotes Sightings
* Pictures of Actual Site
* TMBG Mentioning H*R.com
* Covers of H*R Songs/H*R Tribute Songs
* Thank Yous to H*R or SB

-[[User:AtionSong|<font face="BankGothic Md BT">AtionSong</font>]]

== Unconfirmed Star Wars EU sighting ==

Hey, I'm not logged in, but according to the [http://starwars.wikicities.com/wiki/List_of_references_to_Earth_in_Star_Wars#Science_fiction_stories_set_in_our_galaxy Star Wars Wiki,] Homestar Runner might've made a tiny reference, but since it's so minor, it's unconfirmed. (Homestar was the name of a Corellian cantina in a comic)
[[User:66.142.252.20|66.142.252.20]]


== Wall Street Journal ==
(Ok, we don't have a newspaper section, so I'm not sure where to dump this. Someone move it where it needs to go, please. --[[User:James|JamesGecko]] 02:09, 30 July 2006 (UTC))

In the July 29-30 weekend edition of the Wall Street Journal had an article entitled "Moguls of New Media" in the Pursuits section. It talked about the internet media phenomena, and Homestar Runner was featured prominently. A slightly stretched image of Strong Bad checking his email was on the front page of the section, and he appeared again in the "What to watch" sidebar. TBC also appeared in a sidebar under the title "The Pioneers", with the following text:
"Since 2000, these Decatur, Ga., brothers have made hundreds of cartoons and videos featuring a roster of absurd characters for their Web site. One of the most popular is Strong Bad, the star of a series that's now produced as a regular podcast (see 'What to watch,' left)."
There appears to be no mention of Homestar Runner in the article main article body.

:The article is currently free online, but it might not be for much longer. Read (or mirror) it while you can: [http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB115412710465720901-EZALtIxP32t6vNNd_hTHC2axm6E_20060827.html?mod=tff_main_tff_top Moguls of New Media] {{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:17, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

::"The Pioneers" part can be added to [[The Brothers Chaps]] page. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:53, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

== Burninate ==
Many of the sightings and references on the sightings pages are listed because of the word "burninate". I don't think Strong Bad was the first person to say this, and it's not a very uncommon thing to use. I think we shouldn't list any reference based solely on the fact that it uses the word "burninate". {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:19, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
:I'ma ask you for a citation of usage of "burninate" prior to 2003. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:06, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

== Nintendogs Dalmation ==

I was wondering if the new nintendogs should be added because in the commercial if you can see a propeller on the red and blue hat then it should be added.- {{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 06:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

== Template Relocation ==

Per [[Template talk:storenav#Position of this template on the subpages|this suggestion]] I'm moving all templates to the top.  I'm also considering adding the notice to the template instead of as part of the page (kinda would force the template to go on top, but it's not an idea i'm really crazy about). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:39, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

== Sightings per subject ==

Following [[Talk:Burninating#Suggestion|this discussion]] I would like to suggest that some sightings be organized in terms of subject (note I mean organized as in copied to, not reorganized as in moved).  This would mean organizing significant references of a particular H*R subject into a section within some page. That way all such references are "neatly" packaged together.  That is, as I'd suggested in the burninating page, that all references made to "Burnation" (or maybe just trogdor) be clustered under the same section for ease of use/accessibility.  The question that would remain is if that would be useful.  (Which I think to some degree it is.)  Of course this might require a note to editors that sightings of specific topics be added in two locations. Comments? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:09, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

== The Cheat Sighting ==

Ok, I'm not sure if this counts, and have absolutely no way to verify it, as it was just a brief appearance, but I was just watching a baseball game (June 27, Boston Red Sox vs. Seattle Mariners) and they showed a man in the seats wearing a red The Cheat shirt. They didn't say anything about it, but when the man moved, it was clear what it was. I don't know if this warrants inclusion, but I thought it was pretty neat and felt like mentioning it somewhere. -{{User:YK/sig}} 22:19, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== Idiocracy ==

For those who may not know, the movie I will talk about is a sci-fi comedy about an army man and a prostitute who become subjects for a hibernation experiment and do not awaken until 2505, and by that time everyone in the country has become dumbed down, mostly by commercialism and violent/sexual media.  The reason I am bringing this movie up is because the phrase "[[Why Come]]" appearrs in this film. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:20, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
:I just found out this was also proposed on [[Talk:Why Come]] [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:30, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

== All The Real Girls featuring a Strong Bad! ==

I tried to look up Strong Bad Email DVDs on IMDB, but I was taken to Strong Bad's character page.  Apparently Matt Chapman played Strong Bad (not sure if it's the same one) in some sex movie titled "All The Real Girls".  Anybody know anything about this?  Wikipedia was no help. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 15:38, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

== Toronto Star newspaper has SBCG4AP as a picture! ==

Okay, this is crazy. In the Entertainment section on today's (May 13) paper, there is a there is a article that's called "Gaming goes indie with new WiiWare". Although the text itself dosen't say a thing about it, the picture is of the game; where Strong Bad was standing on top of his stool. The caption says "TELLTALE GAMES/AP PHOTO '''''Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People, a forthcoming WiiWare game.'''''". I don't know where this would go, but someone, PLEASE PUT IT IN! I'm shure anyone who read it would be able to say it's true. 

-Hey, the article is on it's website. [http://www.thestar.com/article/424683 Here it is]. (Will only last for the rest of the week.)

-[[User:Ben Again|Ben. Again.]]

(Considering it's been on their website this long, I don't think it's leaving. But it was on the actual news paper!)
:Why not just go ahead and add it to one of the lists instead of just mentioning it on this talk page?  There doesn't seem to be a section for newspapers, but it could go under 'Other'.  Or I guess 'Websites' since there is an online edition of the paper.  One or the other (but not both I'd say).  Don't worry about doing it wrong &mdash; plenty of people keep an eye on the wiki and will clean it up if needed it isn't up to their standards ;-) {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 17:28, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Done.

-[[User: Ben Again|Ben Again]]

== Bus Driver refrence!? ==

Hmm... twice in a row? Dose anyone go to this page anymore!? Anyway, I got this fairly new game called Bus Driver, which has every level in some part of the laptop-slowingly large city. In the northern suburbs, the streets form a weirdly Homestar head-like pattern. Is that good enough?

-[[User:Ben Again|Benamabooooo...]]
:Hmm.. from your description, that sounds sort of vague and coincidental to me, but then again I haven't seen it.  I'd be doubtful unless it's a painfully obvious reference. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 17:31, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

::Do you have a screenshot of that map anywhere?

No, but I could easily make one. But another thing is, if it was suppose to look like him, then to... um.. "show it off" more, they made the first level there, instead of somewhere else. But anyway, I'll get the screen shot as soon as I can.

-[[User: Ben Again|Ben Again]]

Ok, I have a picture and a picture. I'm shure that's all the nessessary things for someone to say if it's Homesar enough.

[[image: Colour Map.PNG|200px]] [[Image: In-Game map.PNG|200px]]

-[[User:Ben Again|Ben Again]]
:Although it ''does'' look a bit like H*R (especially where the track's "shirt" connects), I don't think its a close enough resemblance. If he had a hat looking thing it might be another story...and also, there's a road that goes straight through his "head". The "head" is made up of 2 different roads, and, said "head" is made up of a half-circle shape and a rectangle. I would think if they wanted it to actually look like Homestar (in my opinion), they would've taken out the "middle of the head" road. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 15:40, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. You're opinion makes sence, but in my opinion, that part of town was quite small. Not only would putting in a hat be difficult to build, (and hard to manuver at the intersections with a bus,) but the middle road would be kinda weird if it just had a dead end, oh-so close to another road. 'Cause the way I see it, that road is his mouth.

-[[User: Ben Again|Ben Again]]


==Email this guy==

I was on super smash flash dojo and when you scroll over to Naruto[NU] in blue the bottom of the page says trogdortheburininator@... I forgot the website. [[User:Roboblob|Roboblob]]

== CAN'T I FIND A GOOD H(STAR)R REFRENCE ==

Does anyone FIND A  H(STAR)R REFRENCE?!?!
On family guy the episode where Peter goes blind when he accindntly went in to stewie's room he sayd what the deuce? on road to germany the euorpinan see and say rooster part went like chick-r-dy, sounds like coach z would say. the llama sone the loading screen sayd tis' loading. on south park someone sayd they hooked up their coleco to an black and white tv, that's pretty wierd becuse they never sayd a classic system before. Imagine this on some show that talks about classic systems and sayd they hooked up their intell to their freezer and when ever they win it makes me icecubes. [[User:TwO_2_bReAdS_iN_a_BiScUt]]
:None of those seem related at all to H*R... well, specifically. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 18:03, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I founded one [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5CmqC1E-Ag&feature=related]] [[User:TwO 2 bReAdS iN a BiScUt]]

What part of [[Nintendo#Miscellaneous|HOOKED UP]] don't you understand [[User:TwO 2 bReAdS iN a BiScUt]]

==Homestar Drawing==
I found this webiste http://www.urealms.com/forums/index.php?topic=39.60 with a crude drawing of Homestar Runner and another character, it is halfway down the page. Can someone put it on the article for me? Thanks.

== MUGEN, Boy's Life, and Wii Handbook ==

I found some Homestar References! Here they are:
*MUGEN: Stinkoman 20X6 was made for MUGEN! Also, [http://area91.multiverseworks.com/ this guy] is making Homsar for MUGEN.
*Boy's Life: SBCG4AP was talked about in the Game Briefs section.
*Wii Handbook 2009 (made by Nintendo Power): There was a Section in it about SBCG4AP.

That's all! --[[Special:Contributions/66.205.143.105|66.205.143.105]] 03:26, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Look THOSE ARE (could be) NOT REFERNCES I HEARD THERE WAS STINKOMAN FOR MUGEN [[User:TwO 2 bReAdS iN a BiScUt]]
          PS:If its on wii handbook its NOT A REFERENCE [[User:TwO 2 bReAdS iN a BiScUt|Same Guy]]


== Where Would This Go? ==

In the book Transformers Animated: The Allspark Almanac, there's a reference to Drive-Thru, as made in an interstital in the book. As it references Bee in the City from the '08 Botcon (which is mentioned in the Other category), the breif "character" description for the drive-thru speaker is "Pour gravel on your stump, ma'am". While the text page is very small, I was able to recognise it, but I just had no idea where to categorize it. I'd be glad if I could get some help! --[[User:ZootyCutie|ZootyCutie]] 02:00, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
:Since we don't have Book Sightings page, you can put it in [[Other Sightings]]. {{User:Elcool/sig}} 05:04, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

I was wondering where this should go. The person who makes Yugioh Abridged has a Let's Play he does in character as characters from the series. At one point, he is checking email on an old computer and says he feels like Strong Bad. Does this go with the Yugioh Abridged part of the Amimations subpage? On the Other subpage? Somewhere else? [[User:SkyHeartStar13|SkyHeartStar13]] 01:21, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
:The Yu-Gi-Oh Abridged part of the Animations subpage. - {{User:Catjaz63/sig}} 01:48, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

== Twofold Sightings Bloat ==

So this has bothered me for several years now. It seems to me that the sightings pages are get bloated with information that nobody particularly wants to read. As such, these pages are mostly ignored by most editors, and as such, the problem gets compounded due to further lack of quality control. The problem is twofold as i see it. First, far too often I see people put "sightings" that are things with as much substance as "this character in this episode of this TV show was bored and started counted the ceiling tiles in the classroom, similar to how [[Bubs]] was counting bricks in [[boring (really)]]." Basically, things that we wouldn't call a real-world reference if it was going the other way, but they're allowed on these pages because we have [[the facts|zero. Quality. Control.]] Second, all too often I see people add sightings of very unprofessional, made-by-a-12-year-old-in-his-bedroom productions, such as some kid who has a youtube channel dedicated to his own HR fanstuff. I'd even speculate that very often, if not almost always, these types of "sightings" are added by the people who made them in the first place. Now, i'm not saying that there is no content on these pages that's worth keeping, which are real references that appear in works with at least SOME semblance of professionalism, but I feel like those get drowned out by all the not-really references and all the unprofessional self-promoting.

So the question becomes what to do about it. First, I suggest holding "references" to the same standard that we hold them on our toon pages. Second, I suggest setting some ground rules for what quality of work we're willing to accept. Works that are nationally published, such as TV serials, full-length movies, newspaper comics, books, etc. should certainly be allowed. ''Successful, popular'' webcomics, animations, or youtube series which are not solely dedicated to being homestar knock-offs, should be allowed as well IMO. Things like xkcd, or VG Cats would also be popular enough to include IMO. "Hollerin' Jimmy's make-your-own-webcomic-that-you-give-up-on-after-two-weeks-and-always-[[web comics|MS-Paint-your-way-to-a-non-punchline]]-anyway" type productions should be ignored. Thoughts? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:06, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

:Heh... Every once in a while someone steps forward and suggest doing ''something'' about these pages - Reorganizing, trimming, splitting, moving, deleting... At some point I tried to prove that anyone can plug his own comic with this page. Me and the sysop Thunderbird wrote and drew our own stupid comic, got a free wiki hosting site, and put a link in here to prove our point. Needless to say, it stayed there for a good amount of time until the wiki site died when they moved the domain or something and I just removed the entry. (You can see the stupid comics [http://elcool.deviantart.com/gallery/#_search/thundercomics in my gallery]. They are awful). So anyways, best of luck to you. What ever you want to do with this mess of articles, go for it. I support. {{User:Elcool/sig}} 21:28, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
::They actually ARE really funny in the context of being purposely awful to prove a point... I laughed... [[from work|Okay, back to the, back to the discussion. Let's talk about dorsal cleanup.]] {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:36, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

== Nerdfighting ==

In the unfinished Nerdfighter theme song one of the lines Hank Green Suggested was "Just meet my Shivan Dragon and get '''Burninated'''" It is an obvious reference to Trogdor there is even a page on the Brotherhood 2.0 wiki! Link for proof:http://www.wiki.brotherhood2.com/index.php?title=Trogdor_the_Burninator I'm wondering where should this go, if it should be put up?--[[Special:Contributions/76.101.152.183|76.101.152.183]] 04:45, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

== Cleverbot ==
if you type is it hard to type with boxing gloves on it says strong bod hates that question
: And if you type like this in a Strong Bad Email, you get made fun of. Anyway, I'm not getting a repro on this one. Can you get more specific? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:37, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
::Cleverbot is just a regurgitation machine with a randomizer and very little other AI. So you're not going to get the same result twice, but you're also not going to get anything intelligent most of the time. Turing test indeed! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:25, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

== Question'd! ==
:''Moved from [[Talk:-'d]]''
I don't know if this is the right place to ask this, but if someone uses this in another work, how would we know whether it counts as a [[Sightings|sighting]]? This suffix existed before ''Teen Girl Squad'', so it seems possible some people would use it with no intention of referencing the comic. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 05:51, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

== Organization and criteria for inclusion ==

The quality of the sightings pages as a whole is something that has bugged me for a long time, so I figured it may as well get brought up now while there's some attention on sightings. The sightings pages are full of sightings in obscure webcomics and random youtube channels, (often added by the creators themselves trying to draw attention to their crappy ms-painted non-punchline not funny pixel comics), interspersed with the very occasional reference made by an actual famous work. Frankly, these pages are just not very interesting due to the fact that they're cluttered up with obscure garbage. I would be far more interested to see these pages if they ONLY listed things which were at least a minimum level of well-known.

Now, the tricky part is defining an OBJECTIVE measuring stick for what counts as "famous enough". I can think of things like "has its own wikipedia article" or "has at least Xty thousand subscribers on youtube" or "is ranked among the top X thousand websites", things like that, but those would need to be fleshed out. We may also want to consider not getting rid of the non-famous sightings entirely but having them on a separate page (though I do lean toward not having obscure crap here).

As a side point, I also wonder whether sightings such as "some guy walking past in the background of some news broadcast was wearing a Homestar shirt" should be included either, or whether we should only deliberate references made by the creators of whatever work the sighting occurs in (with a lenient definition, such that it WOULD count if, say, a talk show host or guest is wearing a homestar shirt).

Finally, if we decide to limit the scope like this, it'll require some work to go through and clean these up, and we may not have the userbase necessary to do so anymore, but it's at least worth discussing.

Thoughts? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:14, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

:As an admitted obscure obscure web-comic haver, I agree there needs to be a trimming. I think we should start with removing ones that are not deliberate Homestar Runner references, either obvious by themselves or have the creators say "that's a Homestar Runner joke for all my Dog Food Ganstas". The Big Bang Theory Moth Mouth one for example seems dubious. 

:As for measures of fame, I don't think Wikipedia is a good measure as it can also be edited by anyone (in theory at least). "Yi-Gi-Oh Abridged: According to Wikipedia, we don't exist." Rankings sites would be better but are still subject to the similar problems what with voting influences. I'd lean towards webcomics that have been around for a certain number of years or have a certain number of strips so that way at least that trims out the ones that begun, made one Trogdor joke and died when the creator went back to college. [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 23:28, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
::We should treat sightings like we treat real-world references, and only include them if we're ''sure'' it's a reference. There are tons of sightings here that I'm sure would be deleted on sight if they were added as a real-world reference in a toon page. (-'d, for example, shouldn't ''always'' count, as BBG said in the above topic.)
::Officially published works (movies and books, for example) should definitely be here, as well as ''well-known'' web comics, websites, etc. Well-known as in, if you approached a certain number of people on the street and asked them if they knew of some website (that would be pretty creepy), some of them might say yes. But if you went around to everyone on Earth (that would be impressive) and asked if they knew of this 12-year-old's crayon comics on his neverly-updated blog, maybe 1 or 2 people would say yes. These are the things that shouldn't be here. If something was added here by the person who created it, it should be removed. Even if that person is sure that they're very popular, they should still wait for someone ''else'' to add it, since that usually means the work is kind of well-known. Perhaps we could only include things that have a certain number of views per day/year/time.
::As for people who just happen to be in the background wearing a Homestar shirt, I definitely think they should be included. I find these things interesting, and if I see someone in, say, a documentary wearing a H*R shirt (that happened once), I'd want it to be noted somewhere. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 06:24, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
:::Maybe T-Shirts should have their own sightings category as while notable it is quite different from having a character make a Homestar Runner reference. Also, I think Print comics (Batman ect) and Webcomics (XKCD and the like) should be split IMO as even though they're similar on the reader end one is the result of stuff passing like 17 editors and the other is subject to the 90% is crap rule of the net. [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 09:06, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
::::I think there needs to be a consistent place for webcomic and web animation entries. Some of them are in [[Comic Sightings]] or [[Animation Sightings]], respectively, while others are in [[Website Sightings]] (and some are listed in both even). Also, I find it a bit confusing how sightings in TV animation are placed in [[Television Sightings]] with Animation Sightings seemingly consisting exclusively of web animation. I'd support having [[Webcomic Sightings]] split off from print Comic Sightings and having Animation Sightings list TV animation (and possibly animated film if a film ever references Homestar), with [[Web Animation Sightings]] listing web animation.<br /><br />On Website Sightings and Animation Sightings there are entries for websites, like deviantART and YouTube, where any user can upload content. I feel like these entries are overly broad and should be removed, with any possibly notable item being organized under the user/channel or series name. Also, I'm not sure [[Skins Sightings]] is needed. All of them seem to be user-created (i.e., not created by whoever made the program/game the skin was made for, and even if they were, it could be listed under "Games" or "Other" as appropriate) and it seems odd that "Skins" is a separate category on the level of Music, TV and Games. {{User:DEIDATVM/sig}} 13:31, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
:::::I agree with the idea of seperate pages for T-Shirt Sightings, Webcomic Sightings, and Web Animation Sightings. Also, deviantART, YouTube, etc. probably shouldn't be here (except notable appearances, such as popular YouTube channels), and the Skins page seems pretty much useless. It should probably be deleted. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 04:57, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
::::::In addition to the organization issues and obscure sightings, the whole thing needs a huge cleanup. It seems like the majority of examples were added by anonymous or new users, and there are many grammatical errors and formatting inconsistencies. These mistakes mostly go unnoticed due to the sheer length and unwieldiness of the pages, and nobody bothers to go through them (another problem that can be fixed by limiting the scope). {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 23:23, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
:::::Some of us aren't exactly pop-culture and Internet savvy. Some of us don't spend our lives trolling on Twitter, YouTube and in obscure webcomic dens, or binge-watching every modern TV show that comes down the pike. (I think Homestar Runner has introduced me to more pop culture than I would ever encounter on my own). But I do think there's a difference between a Sighting, and say, Fanstuff. Or people who don't make their own content borrow someone else's pop culture and reference that instead. With the Internet, it's really, really easy to research pop culture references these days. Or some of them might be second-generation, where they use a phrase they might have heard elsewhere and didn't know where it was from, but thought it sounded cool. Homestar Runner cartoons have been corrupting the English language with new words and idiomatic phrases since 2002. -- [[Special:Contributions/68.37.43.131|68.37.43.131]] 00:58, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
::::::Anonny makes a fair point. I'm gonna embarrass myself here, but I once [[Talk:Game Sightings#Persona 4 reference|argued that "the jibblies" was a common saying]] because I'd heard the expression long before I'd heard of Homestar Runner. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 09:44, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
:::::::”Plain and Simple.” Oh ho ho... [[That's good stuff]]. -[[Special:Contributions/107.77.76.111|107.77.76.111]] 21:09, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
::::::::Yeah. I was a dummy. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:32, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:DEIDATVM/sandbox&oldid=791201 So, I've sorted out some of the sightings pages for a potential reorganization.}} Some changes that I think could be made:
*The current contents of [[Animation Sightings]] could be moved to [[Web Animation Sightings]] since, as far as I can tell, everything on the page is on the web and not on TV or film.
**What I have under [[Website Sightings]] as "Web Animation" would also be moved there.
*Meanwhile, what I have as "Animated" under [[Television Sightings]] would be moved to [[Animation Sightings]].
*The listings of "Webcomics" under [[Comic Sightings]] and [[Website Sightings]] could be compiled into a new page, [[Webcomic Sightings]].
*Things under "Web-based games" could be included in [[Game Sightings]] since there are already some web-based games there.
*I'm undecided on this, but things under "Non-animated video" could be split and put under something like [[Web Video Sightings]].
*There are also a few I list separately that are ambiguous, or have multiple entries that could fit under different Sightings pages, or are gone with no backup or alternate host that I can find. We could discuss them before doing the above moves, or leave them where they are and wait for the moves to happen before discussing them.
Some re-sorting would need to be done and I plan to go ahead with it in that same sandbox page if there aren't any objections. {{User:DEIDATVM/sig}} 07:53, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
:No objections from me. One way to eliminate ambiguity would be to combine certain categories (for example, Web Animation and Web Video, or Television and Animation) and maybe even seperate those pages into sections (having Animation, Video, and Comic sections on [[Website Sightings]] or Print and Web on [[Comic Sightings]], for instance), but your suggestion is fine as it is. If we stick with your reorganization, the ambiguous ones can just stay where they are until we reach consensus on where they should be. And here's a <s>[[the chair|picture of my parents]]</s> condensed version of your proposal for future reference:
:'''Current pages:''' Television (some animation), Games (some web), Websites (some animation, comics, and games), Comics (some web), Animation (web only)
:'''Proposal:''' Television (no animation), Games (some web), Websites (no animation, comics, or games), Comics (print only), Animation (TV/film only), Web Animation, Webcomics, Web Video(?)
:{{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 22:05, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
::I've done the reorganization. Here are the pages and the entries that would be on them as proposed: {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:DEIDATVM/sandbox&oldid=791251 Game Sightings}}, {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:DEIDATVM/sandbox&oldid=791254 Web Animation Sightings}}, {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:DEIDATVM/sandbox&oldid=791256 Television Sightings}}, {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:DEIDATVM/sandbox&oldid=791257 Animation Sightings}}, {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:DEIDATVM/sandbox&oldid=791259 Comic Sightings}}, {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:DEIDATVM/sandbox&oldid=791261 Webcomic Sightings}}, {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:DEIDATVM/sandbox&oldid=791263 Website Sightings (version with video)}}, {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:DEIDATVM/sandbox&oldid=791264 Website Sightings (version without video)}}, {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:DEIDATVM/sandbox&oldid=791265 Web Video Sightings}}. The ones I've mentioned {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:DEIDATVM/sandbox&oldid=791201 here}} as ambiguous, unknown or having entries fitting in different categories mostly stay where they are for now, though I put YouTube in Web Video since it'd fit better there than the more general Websites page. So, there are a few questions I have: Did I miss/miscategorize anything? Do the splits/mergers seem good? Do these pages seem good to go? Should Video be separate from Website? What should be done for the borderline/dunno/multiple entries? {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:DEIDATVM/sandbox&oldid=791408 I've put my opinions on this last question at the bottom of this edit.}} {{User:DEIDATVM/sig}} 01:26, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:::Just wanted to call attention to this once more, since there's been a bit more activity on the sightings pages recently. If there are no objections, I plan to go ahead within a week or two with organizing the pages as above, incorporating any intervening edits that users have made. I'll keep the video entries in Website Sightings for now, until we decide what to do there. {{User:DEIDATVM/sig}} 20:17, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
::::No objections from me (again). {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 21:21, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
:::::[[Web Animation Sightings]] and [[Webcomic Sightings]] are up and linked, and the others are reorganized. Hopefully I didn't omit anything. A few questions I have now:
:::::#Should [[Web Video Sightings]] be split from [[Website Sightings]]?
:::::#{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:DEIDATVM/sandbox&oldid=792099#The_Opining Where should sightings from these works go?}} More recent Googling shows Arby the Archer and MoDCAMeRa to be webcomics, but I can't seem to find info on Finding Sushi, and searching "Super Mechrio World" returns things that I'm not sure are the original Super Mechrio World. That's in addition to the ones that are ambiguous, or have entries that would fit on multiple pages (though there are some that I strongly feel should have, say, one entry on [[Game Sightings]] and another on [[Website Sightings]]).
:::::{{User:DEIDATVM/sig}} 00:04, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
::::::I agree with "Web Video Sightings". I've noticed confusion on whether YouTube videos should be listed under "Website" or "Other", and feel like monopolizing with "YouTube Video sightings" is too specific. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 03:12, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
:::::::I'm going to throw a (small) wrench at things and suggest "Social Media Sightings".  The reason being that it took me a bit to find the "Twitter" sightings in the "Other" page.  And "Youtube" (and other video sites) sort of count as social media.  All that said, I actually don't like the suggestion itself as much since the relationship is tenuous and I don't see other strong social media sites like Twitter on the list (from a quick check, except maybe Omegle or and Reddit! But those entries are short) yet video sites like TED are clearly web video sites.  Then again, there's probably other sites I've missed that could go in either bucket. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:54, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
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 ::::::I agree with "Web Video Sightings". I've noticed confusion on whether YouTube videos should be listed under "Website" or "Other", and feel like monopolizing with "YouTube Video sightings" is too specific. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 03:12, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 :::::::I'm going to throw a (small) wrench at things and suggest "Social Media Sightings".  The reason being that it took me a bit to find the "Twitter" sightings in the "Other" page.  And "Youtube" (and other video sites) sort of count as social media.  All that said, I actually don't like the suggestion itself as much since the relationship is tenuous and I don't see other strong social media sites like Twitter on the list (from a quick check, except maybe Omegle or and Reddit! But those entries are short) yet video sites like TED are clearly web video sites.  Then again, there's probably other sites I've missed that could go in either bucket. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:54, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
-::::::::Social Media could work but we'd need pretty strict or clear guidelines for inclusion (something like "from official verified business/personality account, not just paid-for-twitter-blue") because otherwise we'll get "my friend's Discord channel has a Strong Bad emote" or "@dave1253442 tweeted 'watching strongbad' yesterday to his three followers" or "if you search tumblr for Homestar you'll find a lot of drawings". --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 17:31, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
-::::::::I'm gonna throw an agree into [[Web Video Sightings]] as I've spotted a few quite large YouTubers make Homestar References but feel we need something much tidier than the current YouTube section before adding anything to it and making it messier. [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 23:15, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
-::::::::We definitely need some kind of criteria for YouTube videos. Most sightings in that section are from channels with less than 1000 subscribers and videos with less than 1000 views. [[Image:Baby strong bad.png|20px]][[User:Minecraft lover147|<b><span style="color:#00ab33;">Minecraft</span><span style="color:#734e00;"> lover147</span></b>]] 00:44, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
-== Angry Video Game Nerd ==
-AVGN did a review of wrestling games where he remarked that The Strong Bads were "strongly bad". [[User:Wolf O&#39;Donnel|Wolf O&#39;Donnel]] 05:01, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
-: And? Strong Bad was named for that very game, and that line sounds like the AVGN's sense of humor. Without something more concrete, I don't believe it was a Homestar reference. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:16, 13 February 2024 (UTC)