Editing Talk:Pumpkin Carve-nival

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==Odd fun fact==
SB-Homestar making up the lightning and thunder sounds is a reference to the
 [[Homestarloween_Party|first]] halloween cartoon where Homestar's speech was
 supported by real lightning. This could be seen as a first hint that this is in
 fact not the real Homestar Runner.

 &rarr; Removed odd fun fact

What exactly is odd about that fun fact?  -  PS aka 84.135.91.87

== Strong Bad's Homestar Impression ==

Strong Bad's Homestar impression is a lot better in Pumpkin Carve-nival than it is in [[Where's The Cheat?]]. I'd add this fun fact, but I don't know which cartoon came first, so I don't know whether to say

:"Strong Bad's Homestar impression in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] has improved greatly since [[Where's The Cheat?]]

or

:"Strong Bad's Homestar impression in [[Where's The Cheat?]] is much worse than it was before in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]]."

(smile)

:I don't really think that is fun fact worthy. Let's see what other people think. &rarr;[[User:FireBird|''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>'']]

Hey guys, did you notice that when homestar (the real one) walked on screen, that he was fully evolved? The fake one and both at the end were 2nd to last. [[User:unknown|unknown]]

What the crap are you talking about? Fully evolved?

Just see [[Homestar Runner Evolution]]. Then you'll know. -Kinsey

Both Homestars are fully evolved throughout the entire ovie. [[User:Poopsmith Z|Poopsmith Z]]
"Strong Bad's Homestar impression in Pumpkin Carve-nival has improved greatly since Where's The Cheat?--[[User:The cheergly one|Cheergly hands on deck!]] 16:38, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

== Hints ==

Does anyone agree that there were actually several hints to who Homestar REALLY was in this cartoon. 

He picked the Cheat to help him.
He gave Strong Mad good points, even though it was total crap.
Several of the things that he said and did, like the way that he kept interupting the King, the way that he walked past the Poopsmith and several other things.

-Lord-Z

== Is he the bee? ==

Is Strong Bad Da Bee? I know that the real Strong Bad was disguised as Homestar, but when he pops out of Homestar's head he appears to have a yellow body. Can anyone confirm whether or not he was wearing his Da Bee costume under his Homestar Costume? {{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 02:32, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
:Since that's pretty much the only evidence, I'd have to say yes. Seems kinda odd... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Maybe the Goblin saw him dress up and decided to mock him. Strong Bad realized his cover was blown and so decided to imitate Homestar. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 20:52, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

== Weird Voice ==

If you view the flash file to this movie and at the end, click on the King of Town to start the Super Kingio Bros. game, while you are actually playing the game, right click on it and hit Forward. A weird voice that sounds like The Poopsmith's costume character will play!

-Triforce1215
:Odd, doesn't work for me. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:22, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
::Well, I can't remember wheather it was Forward or Play or Loop, but its one of those. I also had Flash player 8 when I did it, so maybe you need to update your flash player. -Triforce1215

That voice is Ghost Marshie from when you click on the moon. -Alex H.

:Yeah. When Super Kingio Bros. is playing, it takes over the whole screen no matter where you are at the Flash file. So when you press "Play," it will play the Ghost Marshie easter egg. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 20:41, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

== added a trivia ==

donno if that is where it should be but i added the pepsi twist refrence, feel free to move it or whatever, for thoughs who dont remember
'actually its not pepsi, its a pepsi twist!, and im not really Britney Spears im really Randy Spears!'

== Real-World Referrences Unnecessary? ==

Wouldn't maintaining the real-world referrences on this page be kind of redundant, since all the costume information is located on the respective costume page?
:Not all of them... But a couple, perhaps. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Strong Bad as Homestar ==

Why is Strong Bad written as being Homestar through most of the transcript? Shouldn't you do the same thing that was done with Missing Lappy, and spoil their identity straight away? And maybe a fun fact on Strong Bad's ability to move things without using his arms? --Some Lurker

:Hey, Some Lurker. I would like to point out that nothing we write in the transcripts will spoil anything for anybody. Nobody will read the transcript before watching the actual Flash movie. And for people with hearing difficulties, we have [[HRWiki:Subtitles|subtitles]]. Apart from that, you have a point. We have handled these cases inconsistently. Maybe we should do something about that. And that fun fact is not such a bad idea. I'll add it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:21, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
::Hmmmhmmm, it doesn't seem like SB dressed up as Homestar does actually move anything. The price ribbons simply appear out of thin air.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:35, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
<strike>'''OK, since we can't remove the spoilers from [[Lappynapped!|Missing Lappy]] or add any to this, what should be the definite, once-and-for-all way of referring to characters disguised as others?  The most peeved I've ever been at this site, [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 19:58, 17 March 2007 (UTC)'''</strike>
Should I change "Homestar" to "guy dressed as Homestar" to match the "caller who sounds exactly like Marzipan" thing from Missing Lappy? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 20:16, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
:No, I don't think so. It's fine the way it is. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:55, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
I feel like mentioning that I used to think it was more necessary to make this match Missing Lappy than vice verca, and the only reason I got so ticked when Missing Lappy was reverted was because they no longer matched.  I actually edited this twice before doing Lappy, though the first time was simply rearranging the Cast (order of appearance) section, which I'd like to know if anyone else minds if I change again, if I can't revise the whole thing.  Another idea I had was to put "Homestar" and "Strong Bad" in quotes during the transcript. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:23, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
:Although, I somewhat fear that the 2nd idea will go agaist the intentions of TBC, but then again, Quermac doesn't think these transcripts should replace the toons, which makes me wonder if he accepts ideas that go against their intentions. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:27, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

I really don't see how this is exactly the same as Missing Lappy. In Missing Lappy, Homestar doesn't even make it through one line before breaking the Marzipan voice, and he doesn't take on Marzipan's mannerisms either (i.e. I was wondering why Marzipan was acting like Homestar before the voice changed). In this toon, we have Strong Bad perfectly imitating Homestar for several minutes, including his mannerisms (i.e. the reference to Witches' Brew and the like). I am in favor of keeping both articles as they are. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 22:31, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
:I feel like this quote from the commentary is important: "We didn't know the ending of until after we'd made pretty much the whole cartoon. Yeah, except for the end— ...Homestar judging all the pumpkins and then at the end we didn't know what was gonna happen or how it was gonna end and then we came up with it pretty much right before we made it and put it up." So, in a sense, it actually ''was'' Homestar right up until Strong Bad unzipped his costume. Or we should probably recognize that it makes sense like it is and stop being so pedantic about it. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:38, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

==The Winner==
The true Strong Bad reveals himself as the ultimate winner of the contest. I think this would actually make sense that he would win, since he (though technically, it should be [[The Goblin]] dressed up as he), [[Strong Mad]] and [[Bubs]] are the only ones who did not get a bad prize (last, worst, etc.). [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 06:57, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
: "Dressed up as he"? That's the weirdest hypercorrection I've ever seen. ;) And Pom Pom's prize wasn't bad; it just wasn't first place. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:59, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
:: Given the fact that he actually had his bee costume on when dressed as Homestar, I think it would make sense for Strong Bad to win, considering "he" got one of the better prizes. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 23:20, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

== The Cheeeeat! ==

If anybody reads this (I thought it would be more likely this time o' year), a goof should be added that while viewing Strong Mad's pumpkin, the Cheat throws his hands up and his left one goes underneath Homestar/Strong Bad's sock.  I would have added this myself, but I didn't have a picture to support it with. -- [[User:4.244.212.239|4.244.212.239]] 19:59, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

== Sics ==

ACupOfCoffee, why the sics at all? I'm confused. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:53, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
:I see why. One refers to "Strong Sad's mask", not Strong Bad. And another one used the phrasing "we're been consistent". That ain't be good grammar. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 18:54, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
::I can see the case for the first, but the second's just confusing. I looked at the toon (I don't have the commentary handy) and I could not see the image that they described. Either it's unnecessary or merits further explanation. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:59, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

== What are you supposed to be? ==

The article [[What Are You Supposed To Be?]] credits Strong Bad for not figuring out the Goblin's costume, while [[Pumpkin Carve-nival#Inside References]] credits Homestar for not figuring out Strong Bad's costume.  Is there any way we can reword the remark?  My attempt turned out too awkward. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 03:06, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

== Pom Pom's pumpkin ==
I've seen the girl on Pom Pom's pumpkin before on more than one occasion. Can anyone tell me what that is, anyway? [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 06:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
*It's a figure usually seen on trucks. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 10:38, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::Well, I understand that, but what is that figure called? [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 20:51, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
I managed to carve that one year on a pumpkin. All you really need to do is leave a bit of pumpkin between the ankle of the bent leg and the straight leg. I secured it with pins so it wouldn't fall out, though.--[[Special:Contributions/209.98.138.62|209.98.138.62]] 05:26, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

==Strong Bad as Homestar (and Da Bee?)==
[[Image:StrongBadAsHomestar.png|thumb|Look closely...]]
Strong Bad is seen, as in the picture, bursting out of his costume. But, it seems to me that Strong Bad is bursting out of his costume wearing a Da Bee costume. All that's missing are antennas. {{User:Don't say jorb 101/sig}}
:Yeah, i noticed that too when i took this picture... and i was sure i had read it somewhere on the page already... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:02, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

== Goof ==

When "[[Homestar]]" says, "Okay everyone, thanks for comming.....," The sign is disconeccted from the tree on the left side. (It's not touching the tree's branch on the left.)--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]] 14:34, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

==Homestar's "arms"==

If he has invisAble arms, then they must be rly long because when he puts the ribbon on Bubs' pumpakin, he was probably a whole screen away.

This might support telekinesis.  Or summoning or something.

== Super Mario Connection ==

I think it is ironic that Lou Albano ([[Bubs]]) played Mario ([[KOT]]) in the Super Mario Brothers Super show? Is it worth mentioning in the article?
: Ignoring the misuse of "ironic", it already ''is'' in the article. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:16, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
: Didn't notice, but did ya have to point that out? [[User:VmKid|VmKid]] 02:55, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

== ReDeads ==

With regards to {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Pumpkin_Carve-nival&diff=671219&oldid=668505 this edit}} ({{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Pumpkin_Carve-nival&diff=next&oldid=680726 reverted here}}) I looked at what seems to be the {{pl|l=http://www.zeldawiki.org/File:Redeadww.gif third picture}} and the resemblance to [[:File:pumpkin.PNG|the actual pumpkin]] seems like a bit of a stretch to me.  The pumpkin is really just Strong Mad punching holes into it.  If there's real concrete evidence otherwise then it can be added with the proper linking and formatting. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:10, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
:I'm kinda neutral on the issue.  It does vaguely resemble a redead mask but I'm pretty certain it's unintentional.  Anyway, what I can say is I guarantee the editor wasn't talking about the windwaker version, which is the picture you linked.  (I agree that it does look like that's the third picture, so I'm not sure what they meant).  I can't find a good picture of the ocarina of time version, which is what I'm sure the editor was talking about.  [http://www.zeldawiki.org/images/0/09/Gal_zl-t19.jpg This] is the closest I can find. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.223|132.183.151.223]] 17:36, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
::[http://www.zeldawiki.org/images/5/5d/OoTspookymask.png Here's] a picture of what is essentially the ReDead's mask. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.223|132.183.151.223]] 17:55, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

==Who do you think should have won?==

In actuality, Strong Bad/Homestar did not decide on a true winner. But I want to know, out of the actual contestants, who the users of this wiki think should have actually won. Any ideas on a real winner?

This discussion would be better suited for the [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ forum]. {{User:The Wheelchair/sig}} 16:22, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

== calling SB "Homestar" ==

I can understand it in the transcript, but there are a lot of places in the Remarks and References sections where the disguised Strong Bad is referred to as Homestar. This seems weird to me, as it means some interesting points are missed, especially the fact that Strong Bad, not Homestar, started the "my dog" and "witch's brew" running gags. [[User:Flicky1991|Flicky1991]] 13:03, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
:Except he kind of didn't. From the commentary transcript: "So this cartoon, uh, we didn't know the ending of until after we'd made pretty much the whole cartoon." In their minds, it was actually Homestar who was doing all of the stuff Homestar typically does, and it was haphazardly retconned to Strong Bad when they pulled the ending out of their you-know-whats at the last minute. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:16, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

== Release date inconsistency - 28th or 29th? ==

* As of {{p|l=http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=H*R.com_updates_2002&oldid=47114 February 2005}}, [[H*R.com updates 2002]] gives this toon a release date of October '''28'''.
* As of {{p|l=http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Pumpkin_Carve-nival&direction=next&oldid=48511 March 2005}}, [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] lists a release date of October '''29'''.
So which is the ''actual'' release date? Somehow I doubt it was uploaded at 11:59:59 PM on the 28th making both correct. (fun fact: in the [[ghosts#Commentary Transcript|ghosts commentary]] TBC can't remember either) --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 16:43, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
:Just to note, [[All Toons]] gives the date as October '''28''' as of {{p|l=http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=All_Toons&oldid=392028 December 2006}}. <br />I noticed some similar inconsistencies between All Toons, H*R.com updates, and toons' articles as I was going through the body of work in 2020. In those cases, it was generally All Toons that disagreed with the other two. The 28th seems the most likely in this case with the page for the toon itself being outnumbered two against one, though I'm not sure where the specific dates listed for pre-wiki toons (which this seems to be) come from. {{User:DEIDATVM/sig}} 20:41, 29 September 2022 (UTC)