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| - | Does FCUSA have a national anthem? I'm thinking its [[Old New Intro|Everybody, Everybody]]. {{User:The Homestrongzipansadcheatsmith/sig}} 18:51, 29 May 2006 (UTC) | + | Does FCUSA have a national anthem? I'm thinking its [[Intro|Everybody, Everybody]]. {{User:The Homestrongzipansadcheatsmith/sig}} 18:51, 29 May 2006 (UTC) |
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| | ==Great jorb== | | ==Great jorb== |
| | Wow!! great job, Sir Monkey!! This should be a featured article! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 13:39, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC) | | Wow!! great job, Sir Monkey!! This should be a featured article! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 13:39, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC) |
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| | :Thanks for the compliment, '''E.L.'''! I get all worked up about politics and standing armies and all that jazz. {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 14:00, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC) | | :Thanks for the compliment, '''E.L.'''! I get all worked up about politics and standing armies and all that jazz. {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 14:00, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC) |
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| | *When the Sneak is kicked out of Tammany Hall, the leg doing the kickin' has "PROHIBITION?" written on it. It's pretty thin, but TBC put it in there either as a nonsensical nod to the period (I mean, the whole Tammany Hall-Boss Tweed period pre-dated the Depression...right?) or as weak support for my idea. | | *When the Sneak is kicked out of Tammany Hall, the leg doing the kickin' has "PROHIBITION?" written on it. It's pretty thin, but TBC put it in there either as a nonsensical nod to the period (I mean, the whole Tammany Hall-Boss Tweed period pre-dated the Depression...right?) or as weak support for my idea. |
| | *In The Ballad of the Sneak, the little guy gets his kicks by "drinking bootleg hooch and listening to the jazz", doubly implying the alcohol he's enjoying is contraband, and he's getting it at a Speakeasy where "the jazz" is being played, both of which indicate Prohibition. | | *In The Ballad of the Sneak, the little guy gets his kicks by "drinking bootleg hooch and listening to the jazz", doubly implying the alcohol he's enjoying is contraband, and he's getting it at a Speakeasy where "the jazz" is being played, both of which indicate Prohibition. |
| - | *When [[Fat Dudley]] is enjoying a nip of hooch in [[That A Ghost]], [[The Homestar Runner]] questions him interrogatively, in the sense of, "Fat Dudley, are you breaking the law by drinking hooch?" Alcohol is smattered around the H*R universe - Coach Z ale, Cold Ones, and even Strong Bad drinking too much Soy Sauce (this, I find especially hilarious: not only did this escapade of his teach me Soy Sauce ''does'' contain alcohol, 2% by volume, but it ties into my rejected STUFF comment about the King surviving his massive salt ingestion in the "record" e-mail...Strong Bad would have done himself in by drinking that much Soy Sauce. But enough about salt-related death!), but no one ever questions anyone else about it. So, this event stood out as being consistent with a Prohibition-era time, when some people followed the law and others didn't. | + | *When [[Fat Dudley]] is enjoying a nip of hooch in [[That a Ghost]], [[The Homestar Runner]] questions him interrogatively, in the sense of, "Fat Dudley, are you breaking the law by drinking hooch?" Alcohol is smattered around the H*R universe - Coach Z ale, Cold Ones, and even Strong Bad drinking too much Soy Sauce (this, I find especially hilarious: not only did this escapade of his teach me Soy Sauce ''does'' contain alcohol, 2% by volume, but it ties into my rejected STUFF comment about the King surviving his massive salt ingestion in the "record" e-mail...Strong Bad would have done himself in by drinking that much Soy Sauce. But enough about salt-related death!), but no one ever questions anyone else about it. So, this event stood out as being consistent with a Prohibition-era time, when some people followed the law and others didn't. |
| | *I can't recall it exactly, but since the Ballad of the Sneak is the number one jam of 1932? 1933? it would still have been during Prohibition. I think the Wiki consensus is that the years being depicted are later, to 1935? 1936?, so if this is accepted, than the Prohibition factoid doesn't hold up. But, like I indicated before, TBC are playing fast and loose with the time period references, so whether or not the year they're depicting in the Old Timey world is 1933 or 1936, Prohibition still could be going on there for all we know. | | *I can't recall it exactly, but since the Ballad of the Sneak is the number one jam of 1932? 1933? it would still have been during Prohibition. I think the Wiki consensus is that the years being depicted are later, to 1935? 1936?, so if this is accepted, than the Prohibition factoid doesn't hold up. But, like I indicated before, TBC are playing fast and loose with the time period references, so whether or not the year they're depicting in the Old Timey world is 1933 or 1936, Prohibition still could be going on there for all we know. |
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| | :::Actually, it would have to be in the Northeast: it's east of the Mississippi River, it's on the ocean, and it snows. Nowhere else in the United States fits. The fact that TBC live in Atlanta doesn't mean HR takes place there, the Nebraska star doesn't necessarily tell us the location, and the Texas clue doesn't help because we already know it's east of the Mississippi. Also, not only are California and Oregon not in the Midwest, it doesn't snow there apart from in the mountains, and they're west of the Mississippi. (And if it could be California or Oregon, it could also be Washington). I've also narrowed down the setting of Calvin and Hobbes to two places, on that note. {{User:Granola/sig}} 23:44, 19 March 2006 (UTC) | | :::Actually, it would have to be in the Northeast: it's east of the Mississippi River, it's on the ocean, and it snows. Nowhere else in the United States fits. The fact that TBC live in Atlanta doesn't mean HR takes place there, the Nebraska star doesn't necessarily tell us the location, and the Texas clue doesn't help because we already know it's east of the Mississippi. Also, not only are California and Oregon not in the Midwest, it doesn't snow there apart from in the mountains, and they're west of the Mississippi. (And if it could be California or Oregon, it could also be Washington). I've also narrowed down the setting of Calvin and Hobbes to two places, on that note. {{User:Granola/sig}} 23:44, 19 March 2006 (UTC) |
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| - | I have done research of my own, and I think I have figured out where FCUSA is.
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| - | I believe that FCUSA is in Ithaca, NY because:<BR>
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| - | *beats dead horse* How do you justify that with Home Page 11, where Strong Bad says "Today's weather is total crap!". New York, Georgia, and the Dakotas area are marked as being sunny; it's raining in the Mid-East (Ohio, Illinois, etc) and in the Texas area. Though what Strong Bad considers 'bad' or 'good' weather could be debated. [[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 00:36, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
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| | :Any at all? Someone explain why I should not change this to exclude describing it as a "town hall", which seems to have no precedent and therefore is speculation. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:15, 16 July 2006 (UTC) | | :Any at all? Someone explain why I should not change this to exclude describing it as a "town hall", which seems to have no precedent and therefore is speculation. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:15, 16 July 2006 (UTC) |
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| - | ::Making the change, as no one ever offered any insight on why it's there.... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:47, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
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| | --[[User:Algoblin|Algoblin]] 17:36, 30 November 2006 (UTC) | | --[[User:Algoblin|Algoblin]] 17:36, 30 November 2006 (UTC) |
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| - | <s>Just recently someone</s> Qermag has edited this page to show that some of the observations contradict one another. I'm wondering if we should "off" 3 of these observations:
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| - | *'''The Star on the USA globe''' - The center of America is somewhere in Nebraska (or in Kansas; I don't remember which). To me the only thing the star tells us is the country.
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| - | *'''Pop''' - I and my family use the term "pop." We're not in the Midwest, nor are we from there. In addition, I have a friend who is in the midwest, but when I mentioned pop to her once, she wasn't sure what I was talking about. I don't think word usage should be considered observations here.
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| - | *'''The Brothers''' - Yes, they are in Atlanta, Georgia. Doesn't mean the characters are.
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| - | If those three items are removed, the remaining statements do not seem to be contradictory. What do you all think? -[[User:WarthogDemon|WarthogDemon]] 00:00, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
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| - | :I'm the someone. Let's not forget how the "wharf" implies a coastline, while other evidence makes that impossible. Re: the "pop" issue, see this page: [http://popvssoda.com:2998/]. The bottom line is, who are we to say which side of the evidence is wrong? Rather we should simply say the truth: that some of the evidence contradicts other evidence. Otherwise is speculation. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:21, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
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| - | ::My apologies if I came across poorly by saying "someone." *Changes that.* When it comes to the "sides," those three seem to be just outside observations. The other instances are all mentioned by a character, whereas those three aren't. (Unless there's one I forgot.) *Checks list.* -[[User:WarthogDemon|WarthogDemon]] 00:30, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
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| - | :::*After checking.* The weather one and the radio one don't give facts stated by characters, (though I suppose it'd be a coin toss with radio). So perhaps I'm incorrect in suggesting those three statements be offed. Though if I may say a contradiction that perhaps has not gone noticed, heavy snow usually comes late in the central USA. (At least from what my friend there tells me.) -[[User:WarthogDemon|WarthogDemon]] 00:33, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
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| - | ::::Believe me, as someone in the Northeast US who has just recently seen the first appreciable snowfall, while other regions not as prone to snowfall have been blanketed heavily, the presence of snowfall is a possible, yet not positive, indicator of location. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:37, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
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| - | Twp points. First of all, yes, generally speaking W designations are east and K are west, but radio stations were grandfatehred in that violated the conventions. Second, about the temerpature point, I live in New York City and we are (obviously) near the water and have extreme temperature fluctuations (in the summer it can get past the high 90s or into the 100s) and there's no evidence in "keep cool" that that was a typical day. [[User:140.180.166.176|140.180.166.176]] 16:02, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
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| - | I'm not sure if FCUSA is a city name at all. It might just be a running gag The Brothers Chaps made for characters caling the United States "Free Country". If you look at any time the phrase is spelled out, such as [[A Holiday Greeting|here]], [[flashback|here]], and [[In Search of the Yello Dello Theatrical Trailer|here]], there is never a comma between "Country" and "USA". Who else agrees with me or has their own opinion? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:49, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
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| - | :Wuh-ho my god I see it. Yeah, that's a pretty observant observation. Maybe it's possible. Strike that, probable. I'm all for it, unless someone can find a source that says otherwise. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 02:18, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
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| - | ::Okay! Anyone else agree or anything? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 10:58, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
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| - | :::Erm, patience! It can take some time for people to respond to talk page posts. Especially if you consider that it's currently between 7 and 4am in the US. See the [[Talk:Free_Country%2C_USA#The_Municipality|previous discussion]] on whether FCUSA is a town or a country (it's a town). As for the comma, you might be on to something there. It seems like the article had the comma from the very beginning on (September 2004), and it might simply never have been questioned. Maybe someone more crazy than me knows the answer to this.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:15, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
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| - | ::::Soooooooooo, could I change the page title to [[Free Country USA]] and make [[Free Country, USA]] a redirect page, or should I wait for more comments? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 11:54, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
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| - | :::::Wait a minute. Let's wait a little while until someone can find a use of the comma. If not, go ahead, but I think just in case you should put "(also spelled '''Free Country, USA''')". Just my random speakings. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 15:43, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
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| - | ::::::A-HA! (Take on me) I hath found the comma! [[Strong Bad Sings]]. At the way end, it displays ''(bold added for emphasis)'':
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| - | ::::::However, there have been a TON of other sighting of FCUSA sans-comma. Which is why we need to make a decision: what should the page's name be? I mean, this is just ONE instance of a comma, but there must be more. I mean, I only looked through two toons (highschool and SB Sings) and found the comma. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 15:52, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
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| - | :::::::Well, there's no doubt that one should redirect to the other, but which should be primary? [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 15:59, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
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| - | ::::::::Like I think I said before, I say we move [[Free Country, USA]] to [[Free Country USA]] and make [[Free Country USA]] a redirect. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 17:48, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
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| - | :::::::::To be honest, life would go easier if we didn't have to change hundreds of links. Now that we know it can be spelled with the comma, there's no need to move it. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 17:52, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
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| - | ::::::::::I agree with Bluebry. Just mentioning the alternate spelling is fine. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 17:57, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
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| - | :::::::::::Okay. Fine with me. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 19:54, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
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| - | #I'm pretty sure that TBC don't even have a clear decision on these matters. Like springfeild from the simpsons, or where Fes is from in that 70s show.
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| - | #These ENTIRE sections are pure speculation, something that is highly frowned upon here on the wiki. (except for the "Economics" one which is only MOSTLY speculation.) The location one even has the word speculation in it.
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| - | :Wait a second! This is a '''''FEATURED ARTICLE'''''!? How did this get past the usually exacting eyes of ALL of our sysops? [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 12:10, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
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| - | ::What are you talking about? Those sections are ''fantastic!'' I say that without exaggeration. I don't see the speculation you do. Everything written in those sections is directly based on one toon or another. The Brothers Chaps may not think about the implications of the details they include in each toon, but that doesn't mean we can't take those details and interpret them as though they were real (just like everything else we talk about around here). These sections, as well as the whole article, are interesting and spur thought and discussion, and I for one like them a lot. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:50, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
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| - | :::Perhaps we could compromise and stick the excellent FCUSA article in [[:Category:Research]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 17:17, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
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| - | ::::Makes sense, all of our "research" is actually speculation loosely supported with facts... [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 17:37, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
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| - | :Hardee's is NOT called Carl's Jr. in the west - Carl's Jr. is a separate restaurant chain that was purchased by Hardee's. Hardee's then appropriated the star logo for its other restaurants. Incidentally, Hardee's goes as far west as Montana - but it is by-and-large a midwest and southeast phenomenon. After reorganization, the parent company for both chains is CKE Restaurants.
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| - | Is the population really at least 19? Let's see: we got the 12 main characters, the KOT's 5 other servants, Senor Cardgage...who's the last one?
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| - | --[[User:Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]] 15:17, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
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| - | :The Announcer? {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 03:29, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
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| - | ::Oh yeah! Him too. Silly me. --[[User:Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]] 14:07, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
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| - | Now I'm noticing that there are at least '''21'''. I believe it was updated ever since [[original|email 177]] came out, but I don't think we should count [[Original Bubs]] and [[Crack Stuntman]] as part of the population because the regular [[Bubs]] is ''the original Bubs'' and, as [[Marzipan]] puts it, "Strong Bad [[History according to Strong Bad|made all that stuff up]]." Whom are we including besides the other 19 anyway? --[[User:Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]] 15:54, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
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| - | :I can see how Original Bubs might not count, but why not Crack Stuntman? He's been featured several times outside of that email. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:16, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
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| - | ::So have Limozeen; but we have no proof that he lives in FCUSA (unless I've missed something?). Strong Bad claimed he ran Bubs' after 'Original Bubs' left, but as Marzipan states, Strong Bad was making all that up. [[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 22:50, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
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| - | :::So...who is #20 and who is #21? [[User:74.245.20.195|74.245.20.195]] 00:49, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
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| - | ::::What about all those storybook characters? Do they count? [[User:Omnisweater|Omnisweater]] 16:26, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
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| - | :not really. i can dream about italy, doesn't mean i live there. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:17, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
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| - | :Yep, it's Hardee's here in Montana. There's a map on Wikipedia that shows which states have which thing, I don't know how to put it here, but I think the fact could be changed or removed or something. Maybe? {{User:TheGirl/sig}} 04:41, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
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| - | :That's true, although that toon was so stylized it might not count in the normal continuity. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:15, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
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| - | If Free Country, USA, is supposed to be a town in USA, why does it lack the final comma throughout the entire wiki? I'm assuming that every single person on this wiki isn't ignorant of basic English grammar...
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| - | :I'm afraid I may have to explain myself later, so I'll cover it now: The ending comma would, of course, be left out at the end of a sentence (where it is replaced by a period or whatever) or title (which function as sentences.)
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| - | :I'm actually a proponent of avoiding the issue by leaving out both commas: Free Country USA. The "USA" seems to be an integral part of the name and thus should not be set off. (I don't know how much, if any, this would contradict the source material.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:03, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
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| - | ::<s>Let me get this straight, you think there should always be a comma after "USA"? That's NOT grammatically correct. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:30, 14 October 2008 (UTC)</s>
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| - | ::I agree with dot com. the name seems like a unit. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:34, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
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| - | :::I think this says it all. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:11, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
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| - | Shouldn't we say there's a cemitary behind the K.O.T.'s Castle? {{User:Nihaho13/sig}} 17:33, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
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| - | The main 12, the KOT's servants, Stinkoman ([[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]), Senor Cardgage, actors of Cheat Commandos (If Strong Bad, Coach Z and Homestar made a commercial for them, don't you think they'd be in FCUSA?), Anouncer, The Sad Kids, Storybook characters, Marshie, Nibbles, Balding Man, The Goblin, Peacey P, Visor Robot, Tenerence Love and [[Wilbur]]. Those are all the characters that I can remember. --[[User:Essence of Ghost Water|Essence of Ghost Water]] 03:31, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
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| - | In Flag Day, the Strong Badia National Anthem contains the lyrics "come to the place where the tropical breezes flow", implying that Strong Badia is near the coast somewhere. That or Strong Bad is a liar. {{unsigned|24.2.98.45|15:58, 22 February 2023 (UTC)}}
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| - | :They're not in a tropical location given all the snow. That said, ''liar'' is kind of a strong word. It could just be [[AHD:puffery|puffery]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:06, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
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