Editing Talk:Doomy Tales of the Macabre

== Reaper cloak ==
Is it worth mentioning that the cloak that Strong Sad wears on the cover of "Doomy Tales of the Macabre is the same one as in "Experimental Film"? [[Special:Contributions/24.218.166.107|24.218.166.107]] 04:13, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
== Buh-hubs. ==
A simple question: how should one word the Bubs RWRs?  The Wiki strives to be family-friendly, while both his first line of the toon (regarding the brain in his afro) and his line in the Easter Egg refer to Pulp Fiction, both parts of which are...less than family-friendly. I thought perhaps it could read:
*Bubs' line about brain in his afro and about his wallet are both references to scenes from [[Wikipedia:Pulp_Fiction_(film)|Pulp Fiction]].
and a content warning could (and ''should'') be added to the end of the line, which I can't remember the Wiki format for at the moment. --{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 05:28, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:I don't think it is necessary to say what Jules says in Pulp fiction. That would be explaining the joke. I like the way it is worded currently {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:40, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
::That being said, would someone please be so kind as to explain the joke to me? I've...<small>never actually...</small> <small><small>seen Pulp Fiction.</small></small>{{User:Neox/sig}} 21:16, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
::: Try http://us.imdb.com/character/ch0001783/quotes and search for "wallet". -- [[User:Sentroyd|Sentroyd]] 01:02, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Nope. Still don't get it. {{User:Neox/sig}} 22:29, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

== The Transcript ==

Sorry for not showing any progress, the wiki stopped working for me last night. This server does not really like taking any unusual load at all or something. --[[User:InsanityBringer|InsanityBringer]] 11:29, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Hey, what about Homsar's lines?

Check the easter eggs section for those --[[User:InsanityBringer|InsanityBringer]] 16:34, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

== Hand ==
[[File:MacabreHygiene.png|thumb|This could not be a more perfect match if you tried]]
I believe that hand is not the hand of the Onceler and actually the hand of the mom from Career Day. In fact, I am almost sure of it. [[User:Monkeytender|Monkeytender]] 18:49, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:Nope, it's not the same object, not shaped the same, nothing similar aside from being a hand. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:56, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
::Have you even tried comparing the two? They've both got the roundy bracelets and the extended fingernails. They're almost definitely the same. And it's definitely not The Onceler like the article is currently claiming. [[User:Monkeytender|Monkeytender]] 19:02, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:::I tend to agree, it looks like the hand was based on the Mom hand.  Its definitely closer to that than to the Onceler.  (Note, the Mom hand appears as the same object in career day and hygene.) -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.194|132.183.140.194]] 19:11, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
::::I agree.  It looks very much like the mom's hand, and not particularly like the Onceler's.[[Special:Contributions/146.122.71.68|146.122.71.68]] 19:15, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::Sorry, DeFender, they are absotively 100% correct. It is obviously the same hand shape as in [[Career Day]] and [[hygiene]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:09, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::It's not the same flash object, so you can't say for certain. I'm not saying it's the onceler, but i'm saying it's also not the same hand from there. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:11, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Same curl at the base of the thumb, same three fingers pointing upward for no obvious reason, same bracelet, etc. Homestar isn't the same Flash object that he used to be, but are we to claim he's a different character entirely? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:12, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Here, look for yourself. Perfect. Match. The only difference is that one is in silhouette. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:16, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::: Well, this certainly changes things. Yep, same hand. Those Chapmans are getting lazier (that was a joke).--[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 19:21, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh... I was looking at the hand in career day which is a different object. Yes, you are correct, it is the exact same hand here. Sorry i doubted all you guys. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:24, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::: I agree that it's the same hand too(as it's been agreed to), but where does the hand show up in career day? {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 04:06, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::Remember that Dr. Seuss' characters don't have fingers per se, so this is most definitely not the Onceler's.[[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 16:47, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::[http://spyhunter007.com/suess_loraxland_and_capitalism.htm Not true.] Cat In The Hat might have mittens, but many characters, including the Once-ler and Lorax have definite fingers. As opposed to [[fingers|Strong Bad]]. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 16:54, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Dr. Seuss' characters have pinkies and thumbs, but no other clear fingers. [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 17:16, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
:To StrongAwesome: It's the hand that places the picture under the pillow in the little boy's imagination. It's not the same shape, exactly (if only because it's not holding anything between the index finger and thumb), but it's close, and the nails and bracelet are identical to the ones in hygiene. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:31, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

== Move-a ==

Should there be some mention that Strong Mad's Easter egg line is from "[http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2a6lc_dire-straits-money-for-nothingvideo_music Money for Nothing]?"  Related to that, I would argue that move-a is a better spelling than moova (it refers to the fact that the character is moving refrigerators and moving color TVs).[[Special:Contributions/146.122.71.68|146.122.71.68]] 19:25, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:heck, it even says 'Move-a' on the costume discription page. I'll fix it. But, you don't always have to ask before putting something. '''be bold!''' {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 20:01, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

== How/Why? ==

Does STrong Bad say "How do you think..." or "why do you think..."? The latter makes more sense, but the former is what many people <strike>including me partially</strike> hear. Which is it?--[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 23:20, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:I don't think the concept makes much sense either way. But I hear "how". &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:16, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

I am only an anony, but I've watched this thing four times now, and I have heard why each time [[Special:Contributions/69.81.183.110|69.81.183.110]] 02:55, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
:After relistening, I hear "why". And as for how that makes semse, think about it: he goes through Strong Mad's digestive track and gets, er, passed with the rest of the fecal waste. Therefore, it would make sense of this being why they give him baths. Should I change it, or leave a footnote. It's two to one at the moment, IDC, so it seems a change is in order unless anyone else has a comment.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 14:56, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
::Umm, it's most certainly "how". It's not even a question, and all references to this added to the wiki on other page so far have been going with "how" as well. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:51, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:::As the person who transcribed it originally, of course I support "how". Both make weird sense in H*R logic, although very different KINDS of sense. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

== Reduce [an] overhead? ==

What exactly does that mean, and do we need an explanation on the page as to what it means? -[[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 01:49, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
:"Overhead" refers to the expenses related to operating a business. Reducing his overhead means lowering his expenses. I don't think it really needs an explanation in the article; it's a pretty well-known business term and people who don't know what it means can look it up in a dictionary or online, just like any other word. [[User:Kane2742|&#123;&#123;User:kane2742/sig}}]] 14:43, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

== Eating The Cheat ==

In this video, Strong Bad claims that Strong Mad eats The Cheat all of the time. However, the email "[[narrator]]" refers to a movie supposedly called "I'm Surprised Strong Mad Hasn't Eaten The Cheat By Now". Would this be a continuity issue? --[[User:Hatkirby|Hatkirby]] 02:55, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
:Possibly, although I'm not sure any of this actually "happened" or was just made up by Strong Sad. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:15, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
::We can also question the factuality of SB's line from narrator (after all, it was kind of thrown out there as the title of a movie for which we never even saw the trailer). I think all told, with both of these events being of uncertain factuality (even in-universe), there's no continuity issue. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:30, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Was thinking that too, thanks for clearing it up. --[[Special:Contributions/69.113.231.176|69.113.231.176]] 20:27, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

== "Real-World" References ==

Since a lot of these references are not from the "real world", but from video games and such, wouldn't it be more appropriate to call this section "Outside References"? [[Special:Contributions/81.226.252.221|81.226.252.221]] 10:32, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
:Since we use the term "Real-World References" in many articles, we'd have to change them all if we changed it here. As such it wouldn't be appropriate to discuss it here; it'd need to be at a more centralized place (I'm thinking probably [[HRWiki talk:Standards]]). I think actually this has been discussed and rejected in the past, but I don't recall where or when. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 10:49, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
::"Inside" is not meant literally, so "Outside" is not the appropriate moniker. But there was once a discussion over whether they should be "'''Cultural''' References". I'd be fine with that if not for the SHEER NUMBER of pages we'd have to fix. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:43, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:::If we did that, that sounds like Bot work to me. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:12, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Although it would be a pain, it would also be more accurate... {{User:Haldo/sig}}
:::::I disagree.  Not all of the references they make are necessarily culturally significant.  But all of them originate in the real world. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.123|128.103.10.123]] 17:32, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::You misunderstand the meaning of "cultural" in this context.  Back when I worked on the "Cultural Reference Guide to Animaniacs" (in the Usenet days), a "cultural" reference would be anything in popular culture: movies, books, TV shows, music, whatever.  It wouldn't necessarily be "high" culture like [[Shakespeare]] (though it would be called upon), but it's part of the culture, nonetheless. It would be the same here.  Having said that, I don't see anything wrong with "Real-World", since it's a reference to something outside of the H*R universe.  Either would work. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 17:41, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

== Oops... you bwoke the twadition. ==

Is it significant that this is the first Halloween Toon to not feature [[The Goblin]] since [[Halloween Fairstival]]? I know he hasn't been in every Halloween Toon, but can [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig|four]] [[Happy Hallow-day|consec]][[Jibblies 2|utive]] [[Most in the Graveyard|toons]] be wrong?

:It's not really that important. The Goblin isn't in all of them, so the fact that he happened to be in four in a row isn't too relevant. [[User:Flicky1991|Flicky1991]] 23:40, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

== Teeth ==

Strong Bad's skull lacks teeth, and Coach Z's completely lacks a mouth or jaw. Do either of these count as references to either character's lack of facial features? --[[Special:Contributions/66.29.169.1|66.29.169.1]] 04:27, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, unless anyone disagrees, I say put it in the Inside References. [[User:FugitiveofPhysics|FugitiveofPhysics]] 22:28, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

== Familiarity? ==

The exchange between Homestar and Marzipan near the beginning REALLY gave me a feeling of deja vu. Does anyone know if there is anything like that in something else?
--[[User:Severyourleg59|Severyourleg59]] 11:14, 31 October 2009
:Homestar talks to her that way often. Like, when she asks him to get the phone and he said he's busy not answering the phone. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 06:23, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

I mean more specific than that. Not HOW they were talking, but what they were talking about.
--[[User:Severyourleg59|Severyourleg59]] 4:32, 1 November 2009
:Maybe you're thinking of [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] where they quarreled in a similar fashion. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 21:33, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

== Majora's Mask ==

Is it worth comparing Strong Bad's mask to the real thing? For example, Strong Bad's horns are curved, though they should be straight, the mask is shaped differently to fit Strong Bad's head, all Strong Bad's colours are too bright, and the real eyes do not frown. There are also incorrect patterns near his mouth. [http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/3498/602046-mm_large.png Compare]
::Here's Skull Kid. http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs29/f/2008/049/f/7/Skull_Kid_in_Brawl_by_EliteAgent.jpg [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 16:41, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
::: Might be worth noting on the costume page, rather than here. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 16:50, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
:::: Might be worth comparing with official art, instead of fanart (though that is pretty good fanart.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:33, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Pretty sure that's official.  It's from SSBB.  But I don't think the differences are especially notable.  They take liberties with all the costumes. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.33|132.183.138.33]] 19:02, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

== Song Lyrics ==

Does anyone else hear "''sooo macabre''" at the end of the theme music?
--[[Special:Contributions/68.96.79.79|68.96.79.79]] 22:52, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:I definitely hear the word "macabre" at the end. I'm unsure of the rest because it's in such a low key it's hard to hear over the higher instrumental notes. I thought it was "Tales of macabre" until you posted. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:00, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
::I've always heard it as something like "Someone will die", but that's just me. [[User:Monkeytender|Monkeytender]] 00:52, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
::: Yeah, I hear "So Macabre!" or "Tales of Macabre", but leaning towards the former. '''So Macabre''' it is. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 00:57, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

== Music Style - John Carpenter? ==

I noticed that the theme music sounds somewhat similar to works of John Carpenter, or more specifically, his theme for [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS7k3G_6IjE Assault on Precinct 13].  John Carpenter happens to be known for his many 80's and 90's B-movie horror films (The Thing, The Fog, the Halloween series) and for his reliance on synthesizers for his music.  Considering all the other 80's references in the past, I wouldn't put it past them to reference this.
:actually, the vocal part from the opening theme is reminiscent of the "Brit Pout" music playing on the boombox from Homestar Ruiner.
::It was at Club Technochocolate, right? [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 16:32, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Club T-C wasn't in Homestar Ruiner. He means on the BOOM Box in the House of Strong. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:34, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
::::It reminded me somehow of a Club TC song that goes "Frooooosty, la la la froooosty." Or something like that. [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 16:39, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

== Hom(e)s(t)ar ==

Homestar with several knees seems to make the same sound as homsar's regular walking. Anybody else notice? [[User:FugitiveofPhysics|FugitiveofPhysics]] 21:25, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
:It does, but that sound effect isn't exclusive to Homsar, so its reuse isn't of itself notable.  Such occurrences are documented on the [[Sound Effects]] page (of which Homsar's walking noise is the first listed). -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.33|132.183.138.33]] 21:29, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

== The halloween house? ==

Where does the halloween house appear in this toon? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:35, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
:I think they are counting when the Sad Kids walk in front of Strong Mad's and The Cheat's candy dumpster. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 16:48, 3 November 2009 (UTC)