Editing Talk:Floppy Disk Container

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== Needed Clarifications ==

Any information concerning:

Old Game - (Entered As Either Generic Title Or 'It's A Funny Old Game')

Hypou Blade - (Entered As Likely Hyper Blade, But The Reason For The Spelling Is Anyone's Guess...)

K-- Sp---- - (Entered As Kid Speedy, I'm Pretty Confident With That)

Marble Craze (A Paul Slocum Game. Another Mystery Solved)

As to whether or not the information is focused on the correct game, would be greatly appreciated. Please feel free to enter something into the discription. I've done the best I can, but if you know of something better, please feel free to edit mine and leave a link or two if possible. Thanks. ''<small><tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔Thunderbird⇔</font>]]</tt></small>'' 01:38, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

Apparently, there is no game on The Underdogs that begins with "k" and has another word beginning with "sp". I turned up some unlikely results on Gamefaqs that I will put up when I finish searching (unless you already did this search...). [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 17:40, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Thank you for your help, I think Kid Speedy is a safe guess. ''<small><tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔Thunderbird⇔</font>]]</tt></small>'' 01:35, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

== Needed Pictures ==

Any pictures of better quality than the ones we have displayed would be appreciated. Most of them are decent enough, with the exceptions of the real floppy disk container from [[Puppet Time]], and any pictures from the DVD. Please have all pics be at least 150 x 150 pixels. Anything more is okay, but less will offset the picture sizes. Thanks. ''<small><tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔Thunderbird⇔</font>]]</tt></small>'' 01:38, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

== Needed Links ==

Any games that only have links to any of the four basic sources, 'Moby', 'Udogs', 'Faqs', and 'Wiki', can also be linked to additional sites. Feel free to link any games to about two or three supplementary info sites, under the generic, and spacesaving, filename of 'Here', in the sources column. ''<small><tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔Thunderbird⇔</font>]]</tt></small>'' 01:39, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

== Misc. Older Conversations ==
=== Standard Image Size ===

Okay, I've gone through and added a "|150px" to every screenshot.  I like how this lines up everything in the first column.  It also gives a bit more room for the text in the last column.  However, this change will not make images bigger than the uploaded file.  So do we like 150px?  If so, we might want to upload slightly bigger screenshots for those few images.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:35, 17 Oct 2004 (MST)

Image sizes fixed. Shogun and the hundredth e-mail ones look kinda small, but there's nothing we can really do about that. I think they're good enough.

-- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 18:00, 17 Oct 2004 (PST)

:I snuck in there and fixed [[:Image:Floppy_flashback.PNG]] and [[:Image:Floppy SBIIJC.PNG]] when you weren't looking.  Much better.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:11, 17 Oct 2004 (MST)

::Oh, it looks like you replaced my version of the flashback floppy with a different one.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:14, 17 Oct 2004 (MST)

Sorry, I was adding images the same time you were. Could you put your flashback one back? If it's anything like Shogun it'll be better. Thanks, and sorry.

-- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 18:41, 17 Oct 2004 (PST)

:Okay, I'll revert it back to my version.  Disregard the instructions I left you on my talk page to do the same.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:48, 17 Oct 2004 (MST)

=== Floppy Explanation Sources ===

Hey, you brought up a good point about the floppy summaries. Should we link to the source of each floppy summary. Most of my sources are big gaming history websites, old fansites and the like, sometimes multiple sources. But I really don't want to go back and re-find a source for each one. So should we link to all, or none? Or just a few (a solution I don't really like, I like uniformity). I would prefer to just give the history, and if anyone would like to know more they can always do their own research like I did. Or do you think that's not fair to the sources? I really don't think they'd mind...

-- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 18:53, 17 Oct 2004 (PST)

:I totally like linking to sources and additional information.  I like Wikipedia the best, but a lot of this information can't be found there.  I understand the hassle in re-finding all the places you got your information the first time, but I think it would be best for the page.  If you need any help, just give me the method you used and I'll see what I can do.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:46, 17 Oct 2004 (MST)

Alright, most of my sources were from one of like 3 or 4 large repository sites of old 80's games info. So what I'm doing is going through each of the four sites, searching for each game, and linking the source to the page that comes up, if any. I just finished Moby, I'm going to go through another few later. Once those are all done, then we can still add a fansite or two, or other sites not uniformed. Try to keep the titles of the sites short though, or just write 'here', so as to keep the summaries column large enough. I'll just work away at it, and hopefully it'll be done by noonish.

-- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 9:43, 18 Oct 2004 (PST)

Sources are done, with a basic structure of the three main sources, (if you can find another one that has about 90% of the titles or more, let me know) each with a special name. I think any additional sources, fansites, ect, should just be named 'Here'. I think it makes sense.

-- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 13:41, 18 Oct 2004 (PST)

=== Remove redundancy ===

Would it be prudent to reduce the duplication of identically named floppy disks and list all the emails that use the same label in the email column? Case in point, the blank disk, tongue of the fatman, lode runner, manhunter. - [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 16:35, 25 Oct 2004 (MST)

:I second this notion and I'm fairly confident our buddy and main organizer of this section [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] would agree with you.  By removing said duplicate images and simply using the email column for several email titles, the page can be made shorter (always a plus to keep the attention of page viewers and reduce clutter slightly) and would cease to "violate" the concept of [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once and Only Once]].
:--[[User:The Paper|Teh P.]] 10:22, 27 Oct 2004 (MST)


I respect your motions, notions, seconds, and checkin's. However, I would have to disagree. Of course, I do not own the page, since this is a Wiki, and therefore do not hold the last word, however I would like the oppourtunity to win you over. My reasonings are simple, and as follows:

# First, it makes the list complete. Granted, the names and pictures and summaries and links are the same, but the location of them are different. Not a big difference, but it's there. Doubling them up would make the column different. Not a big deal, but it's there.
# Second, there are only four of them. It's not alot, and likely there will not be any more ever doubling up. If it happened all the time, I would agree with you.
# Third, two of them can't be doubled up very easily, leaving only two. Since one of these two basically NEEDS to be doubled up, only a few would be non doubled. Basically my argument, is double up all or none.
# Fourth, The blank floppy disk summaries are completely different. One covers the big ones, the other covers the regular ones.
# Fifth, Manhunter New York floppies are not in a row. They're not even in the same section, therefore destroying the sectioning of the page into e-mails and others.
# Sixth, the once and only once policy is not technically violated thanks to templates. A technicallity yes, but it's there.
# Seventh, the length of the page is only increased slightly, approxamently 6 or 7 precent, and the percentage drops after each floppy.
# Eighth, I just like them doubled. 

Thats all the arguments I can come up with. Please read them and get back to me. I appreciate your bringing this up instead of just doubling them up yourselves, which is within your right. I hope that you can see it my way, but if you can't, then let me know and we'll discuss some more. I'll probably think up a few arguments later anyways. Thanks.

[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 21:27, 27 Oct 2004 (MST)

:I Appreciate your comments and I will make sure we come to an agreement before any changes are made. You spent a lot of time on this page and it shows. I will go through each point with my comments.

# Completeness: Having [[little animal]] and [[superhero name]] in the same column would not reduce the completeness of the list. It would only collapse a redundant row. The images are different screen caps, but I can’t tell the difference between them. 
# Only four: You are right, it is not a lot, and likely there will not be any more ever doubling up. It is significant as it happens a lot near the beginning of the list and it takes much scrolling to get to a unique disk.
# Two can't be doubled: Which two can’t be doubled? Manhunter? Because one is in an email and the other is a toon? Irrelevant. There is no real need to distinguish the emails from the toons in this case. The second column will be labelled  "Appearance" or "location" instead of “email”.
# Blank floppy disk summaries: Both blank images are for 5.25" disk so the summary for both should be the same. The summary for the overall medium should be in the introduction of the page anyway.
# Manhunter not in a row: I've addressed this, making me wonder if I misinterpreted number 3. 
# Once and only once policy: Templates have nothing to do with it. The  "sources" links and descriptions are needlessly repeated.
# Page length: True! The page length will not decrease significantly. But it will mean less pointless scrolling.
# Like them doubled: Understandable. Even if we had strict article guidelines and formatting rules, each contributor would style the page differently. It is going to happen. I knew this was a pet page, so I didn’t want to ruffle feathers. - [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 23:49, 27 Oct 2004 (MST)


I've gotta say, you make a good case. Alright, how's this? I've made my case, you've made yours. And actually, I wouldn't mind shuffling the page around a bit more, organizing the toons in amongst the e-mails in order of chronology, find a few different ways of doing stuff. You make a good case. So I'll think it over, try and think of a good way of organizing it, and maybe start making changes in a day or so. Since the paper agrees with you as well, as I am sure he likely still will, then I guess the majority wins out. And actually, one thing that I did not consider, which is very possible, is that perhaps the puppet style floppy disk container will start popping up more as well, which will neccessitiate further formating changes. Thank you for your comments, and you've won me over. Provided The Paper still agrees with you. I'll look it over and be in touch. I'm also working another page at the moment, [[Puppet Stuff]]. That, [[Powered by The Cheat]], and I think pretty much all the subheadings of the toons menu are getting explanatory pages. But this page will not be lost in the shuffle, I promise.

[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 12:55, 28 Oct 2004 (MST)

Alright, the pictures have been consolidated. Instead of segregating the occurances that weren't in Strong Bad e-mails, I simply sorted them chronologically. That took care of the Manhunter New York problem, since the e-mail and the toon were in a row. I also took the liberty of taking out the 'description' column, which was just as unneeded as mulitiple screenshots and summaries. The title is written right on the floppy disk screenshot, it's also the name of the picture for if you scroll your cursor over the pic, and it's generally the first words of the Explanation. This way the table is freed up a bit, leaving only nessicarry columns. I think the whole layout looks rather good now. If anyone thinks otherwise, feel free to let me know. It's always revertable. Thank you for your comments, and I think the new page looks much better. [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 09:07, 1 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== Question: Pre-Piracy Copies, Perhaps? ===

These disks look remarkably like the floppies used in my very own, very aged, very dusty Apple IIGS computer.  In fact, I recently found a few old containers of said disks, direct from my computing childhood and actually including such titles as ''World Games'', ''Thexder'', ''Shogun'', and even the original ''Pirates'', and after I had a good eighties-child grin over this discovery, I suddenly remembered that almost all of those disks were '''copied''' (erm, borrowed?) from the immense old-time game collection of a now long-moved-away family friend.  

In short, all this made me wonder: are Strong Bad's disks copies?  They have the same simple lined labels as my dusty ones, and their titles are clearly written by hand, as were mine.  It would make a lot of sense for him to pirate his early software, but not being familiar with the labeling practices of early games, I'm not certain.  Yet it would be interesting to note, eh?

Incidentally, I no longer remember playing any of ye olde IIGS games.  I do, however, recall playing ''Odell Lake''.  Oh the shame.  The shame.

[[User:Queenie-C|Queenie-C]] 03:13, 01 Dec 2004 (PST)

:That is quite true. All of my old shareware games I bought, they always did have real lables. By the looks of them, you're right! They likely are copied. However, just writing the titles are alot easier to paste into the toons then getting actual title graphics. Long story short, they probably did that because it was easier, not as a refferance to pirating. Good observation though. It does make you wonder... ''<small><tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔Thunderbird⇔</font>]]</tt></small>'' 19:09, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)

They might be legal backup copies.  In the floppy disk era, it was not uncommon to make a backup copy for daily use, in order to reduce wear and tear on the original master disk.  12 August 2005

=== Why no split. ===

I removed the split in the table that Thunderbird added.  The table is still a table, and I don't quite understand how a spilt helps any.  If it was simply so that people editing didn't have to scroll down so much in the edit box, I can almost understand, but it's not an acceptable reason.  Additionally, the "Emails #1-99" and "Emails #100+" lines were incorrect, as these disks aren't simply from emails.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:08, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I feel so ashamed. Yea, it was because when you did edit it, you were editing such a large page. That way you could edit only half a page at a time. And I knew the titles were wrong, I didn't quite know what to call them and figured a better title would come along eventually. Sorry. Okay, I won't try that again. But I still get points for fixing the synopsis of 'colorado' from the state to the game, right? '''Edit:''' Sorry if I sounded serious. For future refference, everything I say I say with a smile.
''<small><tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔Thunderbird⇔</font>]]</tt></small>'' 18:20, 25 Feb 2005 (MST) 

::Hey, there's no need to feel ashamed or anything.  I just wanted to explain my revert and all.  No problem at all.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:52, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== Floppy Disk Container Plus ===

What does the "Plus" mean? {{User:Rainer/sig}} 03:38, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)

:Actually, funny you should bring it up. Back when I started making this page, there was already a 'Floppy Disk Container' page, which simply had a list of the appearances, and what the title said. That was it. No extra information or anything. So I came along, and started up a new page, with screenshots, info, ect, kinda as a trial, under the page title 'Floppy Disk Contianer With Screenshots', soon after changed to simply 'Floppy Disk Container Plus'. It worked for the better, and eventually the origional page was edged out. Now all that remains there is a Redirect. It does makes way more sense to move it to Floppy Disk Container and make a redirect here instead, then slowly work through the links and try and move them all over. I've been thinking about it for a while, but I'm just a lazy procrastinator, which is a really bad combo. So are you up for the task, or do you want me to do it? ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔Thunderbird⇔</font>]]</tt>'' 16:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

::I went ahead and moved all the content from the Floppy Disk Container Plus article to here as well as this talk page. I even changed all the links and modified the redirect to it works properly (I hope!). Hopefully Thunderbird does not mind too much that his pride and joy has been moved. --[[User:The Paper|<sup>THE PAPER</sup>]] 22:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:::I managed to fix it, but please use the [[MetaWikiPedia:Help:Moving a page|move command]] in the future, as the manner in which this was done effectively deleted over 260 individual edits.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:37, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== TI-99/4A ===

I made an edit a week or two ago, correcting a mistake.  Someone had said that Hunt the Wumpus was a game for the "TI-99" and "4A" calculators.  I changed this to the "TI-994A home entertainment console" and someone reverted the change, saying that wasn't likely.

There was a TI-994A (or 99/4A) home entertainment console, and Hunt the Wumpus was indeed a game for it.  In fact, the MobyGames link links to the TI-99/4A version.  I know this because I owned one of those consoles and that game.  It came out in the early 1980s.

The TI-99 doesn't seem to be a calculator, and neither does the TI-4A.  The highest model at the moment is the TI-92+.  Texas Instruments was also not producing graphing calculators in 1981.  

I'm going to change the paragraph back and direct naysayers to read the references:

TI-99/4A:
http://www.99er.net/ti.shtml
http://oldcomputers.net/ti994a.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TI-99/4A

TI Calculators:
http://www.ticalc.org/basics/calculators/

: I think I was the one who had deleted it, and here's why: I had never heard of such a console, I couldn't find any evidence of such a console, and the MobyGames link was too vague. And looking at your links, I see why: there ''was'' no such thing as a TI-99/4A home entertainment console - the machine to which you refer was a computer, not a video game system. Sorry for changing it, but next time, make sure you actually replace the wrong information with information that is more correct. --[[User:Jay|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''Jay''</span>]] [[User talk:Jay|<span style = "color: #006030"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]] 20:55, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Jay:  I won't split hairs with you by going back and changing it again.  However, I still contend that the 99/4A could be considered a home entertainment console.  It came with joysticks and took cartridges that contained games.  It hooked up to a television.  

At least it isn't listed as a graphing calculator anymore :)

::Using the Wiki link, I rewrote the article a bit, and hopefully clarified it to the satisfaction of all involved. There really isn't enough space in the article to do the history of the game justice, not to meantion all of the platforms it has been on, so I think this 'BASIC' description is good enough. Everyone happy with it? ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔</font>]][[User:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>Thunderbird</font>]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔</font>]]</tt>'' 23:59, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

=== Split? ===
This page is way too long. It needs to be split. But now? Alphabetically? Time period? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:00, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)

I think by Time Period. {{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}}
:The problem with that is that some floppy disks appear in two seperate toons/emails. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:13, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::Hmm... I guess Alphabetically is good. {{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}}

This page isn't nearly long enough to split. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:07, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:It's the second biggest page in the wiki! I suppose it doesn't have to be split, but it sure would make things easier... whatever. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:10, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::Yea, it is kind of a quandry. Personally, I think it's okay. Despite it being long, it's all on one subject. There's no real oppourtunity for it to be split. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:14, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::I also think this page is not nearly long enough to split.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:34, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== you JERK! ==

I uploaded this picture a while ago, and was wondering if it could be put in here. [[Image:You jerk!.PNG|thumb|150px|you JERK!]] --{{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 16:28, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

:I've often thought about this oddity, the only labled floppy that isn't a game. Though I belive that it does have a place on this page, since the precident is set with the [[Peasant's Quest]] and [[Where's an Egg?]] floppies - they don't have the container included either. The pic is large enough (at least 150x150px), but unfortunitly it is in the JPG format. We only use PNG's here, they come out better on the internet. If you'd like to re-upload the pic in PNG format, I'd be happy to whip up some sort of summary for it. Let me know. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:06, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

::I re-uploaded the picture as a .png, so the .jpg can be deleted.  --{{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 20:12, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

:::No, it still has the same problems that occured when you changed it into a JPEG. I'll go take the snapshot again and not mess it up. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 20:17, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Fixed! - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 20:25, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
:could this be a reference to the u-jerk pickups from gta? not that tbc would promote gta. at any rate, it is remeniscent {{User:Csours/sig}} 16:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::No. The reason was because The Cheat thought Strong Bad was a jerk for offering recipies on how to cook The Cheat. There's no deeper meaning. Especially with GTA, that's FAR too much of a stretch. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:17, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Link Format ==

This link format really bothers me.  The extra brackets don't need to be there and the links can be made wiki-links.  Though it's a lot of links to do in one sitting for me right now. Also, I was tempted to link this in the SBemail template (same for the computer room) but i added cats instead.  The main SBemail article does not seem to link to either article. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:24, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

:Actually, that was me, and it did start out as a mistake. But then when I fixed it, the columns of "little arrow graphics" denoting "outside the wiki" were slightly cut off on the top without the brackets. I'm not quite sure why, and I tried an edit summary just now, and it seems the problem has since been fixed, likely with a recent upgrade. So now, yeah, we should fix them. But before we do, what about seeing if one of the Admins will add the four sources as a "Quick Link" format, similar to Wikipedia or IMBD? Wikipedia's already there, but intentially NOT quicklinked for the sake of conformity. So what do you guys think of those ideas? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:41, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

== Podcast background ==

[[Image:Floppy podcast background.png|thumb|Unreadable?]]
Any ideas?&nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:20, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:I think I see "of the" in the middle. Of course, that only tells us so much, but maybe it's a start. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:22, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::I think it's Silence of the Lambs. It will be nice to see that! {{User:That is Truly an Apple/sig}} ~~
::it appears that the first word has 3 or possibly 4 letters more than the middle line to make 9 or 10 letters. i dont think it could be discoveries of the deep because the first d would stick up more, and it would be longer on the first line, but, meh, why confuse things {{User:Csours/sig}} 20:59, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
*possibles:
**discoveries of the deep
**defenders of the earth (cmdr 64)
**footballer of the year (cmdr 64)
**defender of the crown  (cmdr 64)
**tongue of the fatman (not likely)
**vengeance of the kilrathi (less likely)
**chronicles of the sword( not likely, came out in 1996, most games in the box are much older)
**children of the atom (possible reference to the newness of the podcast, but, again its a newer game than most in the box)
**legend of the sword (dos and amiga, 1988)
**guardian of the fleet (1994)
**wargame of the century (empire) (not likely)
**shadow of the beast (not likely)
*palm os
**legend of the orb
**secret of the orb (possibly the same game)
{{User:Csours/sig}} 21:39, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

::Wow! Excellent work there, <strike>Thesaurus</strike> Csours. It'll take me a while to sort through all those possibilities, and I can't do it right now, but I'll try and get on it ASAP. Anybody have any favorites from the list? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:27, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
:::ive been looking at this again, messing around with the jpeg in paintstyle program and it may say 'animations of bad toons{or pies}' (toons{pies} is the word i am least sure of) any way i think the third word is either 'bad' or 'red' or something other than 'the'. {{User:Csours/sig}} 07:23, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I thought I'd go a different way and see how those titles actually work in the Ahnberg Hand font (SB'S handwriting). Didn't come much further, but it's apparently "the", not "bad".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:44, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5528/podcastfloppylabelpe3.png
:::::hmmm. ima have to pick up that font and do some serious 'research'. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:46, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
:I tend to think that the first word starts with a "un" and i keep seeing the last word as being "town" or "light", but that's just my opinion. -[[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]] 00:08, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

:I've been sitting as far from my screen as possible, while also tilting my laptop screen back and forth. I find that it helps to see things better. I don't think that the third word is 'the', since the red ink goes high at the end of the word. I think 'bad' is better. Also, the bottom of 'f' in 'of' seems to almost blend with the top of the first letter in the bottom word. I think 'toons' might be a good match. The first word is tough, though, but I don't see any tall letters in it, such as 'h', 't', 'b', or 'd'.

:I think, personally, that the reading of the podcast background, unless somebody gets some seriously it-came-straight-from-one-of-the-brothers-chap's-mouths style info, is totally subjective and any old demi-fan could say "I think it's 'murfreesboro on not peaches'!" and it would have to be a legitamate guess. I'm not saying I dislike your ideas at all, just that it's subjective and the descriptor should solely say that it is unreadable. not to be a snob or nothin', but it's not objective enough for a wiki. [[User:Sompm|Sompm]] 03:50, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

== Gold Rush was an Adventure game ==

I just played this recently, and it still is. :) The same goes for the use of past tense in the other game descriptions; it's just strange (and incorrect) to read. Retodon8 19:31, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

== Wraith ==
I'm not sure that Wraith means Wraith: The Oblivion. Wraith: The Oblivion is a pen-and-paper RPG (D&D style), not something you could get on a floppy. 
Googling found two DOS games named Wraith: [http://www.download-game.com/Wraith.htm an adventure] and [http://www.dosgames.com/g_rpg.php a RPG]

:Wow, you're quite right. Between the two links you gave me, I would have to assume it is the first one, simply because the second link was released in 1995, and I don't think any of their floppies have been games any later than around 1991. The first link didn't give any clue as to it's release date, (I even downloaded the game and read the readme file), but no luck. In any case, since the entry is a Pen and Paper RPG, I'm gonna change it to your second link, with what info we have. Thanks for your help, any further help would also be appreciated. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:35, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Bad a Pirate? ==

Strong Bad is a bad guy.  We know this.  He says so.  But he appears to want to prove it by having pirated copies of all of these games.  All of the labels are hand-written so either he puts new labels on all the games or simply has copies of all of them.  Anyone else think this is worth mentioning?  I wasn't sure if it was so thought I'd throw it out there for discussion. [[User:Benabik|Benabik]] 04:36, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[[Talk:Floppy Disk Container#Question: Pre-Piracy Copies, Perhaps?|ABP]]'d! {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:50, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

D'oh!  I ''did'' read through the page before asking that, but I read right past that part.  Oh well...  [[User:Benabik|Benabik]] 17:52, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

== below the root ==

not that strong bad is is a linux/unix user, but root is a computer word, and everything in the computer would be below the root, as when you get to root level, you cannot go higher. {{User:Csours/sig}} 07:37, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

:Or it's [[Wikipedia:Below the Root|the computer game]], like we mention in the article.&nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:41, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

::yea, i didnt mean instead of, i meant side note kind of thing....{{User:Csours/sig}} 17:50, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

==LucasFilm Games Vs LucasArts==

a very minor nit pick but a couple of times in this article the phrase "LucasFilm (now LucasArts) Games" pops up, this seems to suggest the the current name of George Lucas' games company is LucasArts Games, which it isnt its just plain old LucasArts. So shouldnt that line read "LucasFilm Games (now LucasArts)" instead?

:Quite right. You could have just changed it, but this is fine too. I'll go switch 'em around. Thanks. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:35, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

i've found i sometimes need to make my argument first round here or it just gets reverted.

:If you sign your posts (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) you'll get better known, and that seems to lead to people trusting you more. If I'm making an edit that I think others will not agree with, I also post in Talk, like you did. And, hey, stuff gets reverted! It's how it is, no biggie, right? But good call on the above. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:18, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

== Home of the Underdogs - site moved ==

Per [[WikiPedia:Home of the Underdogs|this article in Wikipedia]] , it appears that [http://www.the-underdogs.org the-underdogs.org] is no longer in service. The new URL is [http://www.the-underdogs.info the-underdogs.info].

Someone with some time on their hands might want to revise the URLs for the HoTU links on this page until the .org site is revived.
:Thanks for the info (no pun intended). Anyone wanna take this up? I could do it if y' don't... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I'm happy to do it in a day or so, if you guys don't mind waiting. I've noticed UDogs has been struggling lately, and I've been meaning to look into it and update the links. Thanks for the heads up. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:24, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
:::'''Update''' Looks like [[User:Phlip|somebody]] has more time on their hands. :P {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:40, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Come on, man, that took like 10 seconds... even Notepad has Search &amp; Replace these days... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 19:31, 22 May 2006 (UTC)


== Lovecraft ==
Well, it just goes to show that he IS everywhere.
<br>P.S. ha ha huh he ha hah!
Na na nah ne na nah!--{{User:Choc-O-Lardiac_Arrest/sig}} 11:44, 12 June 2006 (UTC)


== BioForge ==

Don't know if it's worth mentioning - the BioForge game was released on CD only, so SB wouldn't be able to actually have it on diskette, even if it was pirated (he would need more than 100 diskettes for that).  This raises an alternative to the piracy theory: SB doesn't actually have games on those diskettes, but rather just sticks labels on them.  {{User:Groboclown/sig}} 14:25, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

== "Coloring" scene ==

I believe email 160 is one of the emails where the camera has a view of SB's desk, so... is there even a floppy disk container present? If so, can anybody add it in the list? (11 Dec. 2006)

:Sadly, the location where the Floppy Disk Container ''would'' have been was both replaced by the colouring book and blocked by Strong Bad's husky head. So the sad fact of the matter is that The Brothers Chaps didn't bother putting an unreadable floppy in this email. (They did that once in [[lackey]], they stuck the border on top of the container) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:46, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

== Cakewalk ==

Surely "Cakewalk" from "cliffhanger" would refer to the old MIDI sequencer rather than an Atari 2600 game?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cakewalk_(sequencer) [[User:74.101.83.189|74.101.83.189]] 15:16, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:The majority of the appearances refer to old computer games &ndash; usually from NES or Atari era... same as a lot of other game refs on the site, that's the era of games TBC seem to identify with... which whould make the game much more likely than the sequencer. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:02, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
::Well, the 1991 release of Cakewalk would put it in the right timeframe.  Besides, it seems to me that this is the only game in the current list that (as a console game) was never actually released on floppies (with the exception of Marble Craze, which is special for other reasons). [[User:65.92.17.150|65.92.17.150]] 15:57, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


== I can count to D! ==

As it happens, there IS a videogame called "D".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D_%28video_game%29

I do not, in fact, know anything about it, aside from the fact that it exists. But there it is. And it was, according to the article, released on the PC, among other things. -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 22:14, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

== Too long, Clanky? ==

Clicking on the link from [[pizza joint]] to learn more about the game "D" took quite some time, as all the pics need to load. As we have more and more emails with more and more pictures, this is going to get out of hand at some point. Proposing eliminating pictures of the disk container, as it's pretty but unessential. Link to the pic instead. Thoughts? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:This is probably one of the most difficult pages to attempt to smallify, as there's nothing you can remove without losing something of value. It can't be broken down like, say, [[Weekly Fanstuff]] can, because there's no set dates or releases. It can't be alphabetised like [[Fonts]], as the games aren't important by name, but by release. It'd be looked up by the toon it appeared in, not by name. I don't really have any feasible suggestions... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:12, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
::I suppose we could break it down by the number of the email (possibly one page for 1-50, another for 51-100, etc.) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:22, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I considered and rejected breaking the page up based on the reasoning that likes should remain with likes if at all possible. The pics are the reason for slow response, so if the pics can be dispensed with, that's a better option than splitting the list arbitrarily. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:53, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
::::I don't see any problem breaking it up to smaller articles a-la Fanstuff and Sketchbook. I also don't see what's wrong to break it by years (2001-2008), or every certain number of emails (30, 50...). I think like all of the table-kind of articles, images are an important part. It may not be something spectacular, and it may seem unneeded as it's only a box with a floppy in it, but it's an image nonetheless, and it adds needed volume to the article. In short: '''Split it'''. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:26, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::I like E.L. Cool's idea of splitting it into (so far) 4 pages: sbemails 1-50, sbemails 51-100, sbemails 101-150, and sbemails 151-200. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:12, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::And the ones from [[Arcade Game]], [[strongbad_email.exe]] Discs [[strongbad_email.exe Disc One|One]], [[strongbad_email.exe Disc Two|Two]], [[strongbad_email.exe Disc Three|Three]], [[strongbad_email.exe Disc Four|Four]], and [[strongbad_email.exe Disc Five|Five]], [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]], [[Puppet Time]], [[Main Page 22]], [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]], [[Real-Live E-Mails]], [[Sick Day]], [[Podstar Runner]], [[DNA Evidence]]? Where do they go? Misc.? I'm opposed to splitting. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:37, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Each of these corresponds chronologically to a set of 50 emails, and would go on the corresponding FDC subpage, I assume. There's a bit of ambiguity for only a few, such as the disks that appear on more than one strongbad_email.exe DVD, but I don't think it would be difficult to find a sensible solution for these few exceptions. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:52, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
==Relentless==

I tried doing Relentless, but couldn't summarize or format it properly. Could someone please help? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 18:26, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

:OK, I'm done. Sorry for the enormous amount of edits. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 18:33, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

::yeah, how about that show preview button, then you wouldn't have to be sorry... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:35, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

:Ugh. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 04:34, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

==Relentless Description==

The Relentless description needs cleanup. 04:34, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

== Homestar Ruiner Disk ==

The disk from Homestar Ruiner has been labeled as Peasant's Quest, although it could represent Police Quest.