Editing Talk:Sketchbook

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== Museum Sketchbook ==

Would it be OK if someone moved the bottom section of this page to something like [[Sketchbook (Museum)]]? This page takes far too long to load on a dial-up internet connection. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 06:24, 9th of March 2005

:Hmm, I like keeping the museum ones here on the [[Sketchbook]] page, and instead moving the weekly sketchbook ones to a [[Weekly Sketchbook]] page.  This would match our [[Weekly Fanstuff]] page.  Any one else agree?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 10:20, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Actually, I like that idea, better than my own as well. Weekly Sketchbook matches the rest of the weekly updates, and is probably easier to change the links for. The only reason I suggested Sketchbook (Museum) was because I thought less pages linked/would link to it. But Weekly Sketchbook sounds great. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 18:08, 9 Mar 2005 (GMT)

:::Done, see [[Weekly Sketchbook]].  I fixed all the links as well.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:48, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)


''Note: The following is a copy/paste from the old Talk page''
Just a quick question. Who's gonna keep up with updating stuff like this? I know we're all busy with simply moving crap from there to here, but I dunne wanna lose anything that could be added, ya know? I'd update it myself, but I do most my wikistuff at work, so I can't make screenshots at all. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 15:15, 19 Aug 2004 (MST)

:Yeah, I can do that tonight.  I think I'll come up with a better format too.  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:30, 19 Aug 2004 (MST)

::Guh-roovay. The current one is kinda stinky anywho. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 16:00, 19 Aug 2004 (MST)

== Fun facts? ==

Is there room for a fun facts section on this page? The Tetherball'd TTGS death is a possible reference to the first season of South Park, when Kenny died in the exact same way. --[[User:Southpaw018|Southpaw018]] 18:46, 11 Nov 2004 (MST)

If there is, I vote <b>Decline</b> -[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Your Fuzzy God]] 10:20, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
:<b>Second'd</b> this is extremly long already. But you can make a different aritcle and THEN put the link onto here. [[User:Sbmaniac|Sbmaniac]]

== "Tableization" ==

I'm glad there's finally a table for this section (as well as the weekly fanstuff.) The images being different sizes before the tables wasn't a necessarily a bad thing, I just thought it detracted from the page slightly. The use of tables did force those images that were on other sites (namely photobucket) to be uploaded to the wiki, which is a plus. I think must of us can agree that it looks better than before. 
--[[User:The Paper|Teh P.]] 22:19, 11 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Comic-Book Style The Cheat==

With the introduction of the tables, I'm glad this image finally surfaced. I almost lost hope in that image ever being recovered, as it was the only image that I thought was never POSTERITY'd!! Due credit to [[User:Tom|Tom]].
--[[User:The Paper|Teh P.]] 22:19, 11 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Message to [[TBC]] from [[Jonathan Howe]] ==

Be sure to view the XML source of this file:
[http://www.homestarrunner.com/weeklies/weeklies.xml]

:I learned about this XML file when I was poking through these flash files: [http://www.homestarrunner.com/fanstuff.swf] & [http://www.homestarrunner.com/sketchbook.swf] when I found I couldn't view the image or the text when those two preceding files are saved remotely (i.e., on a hard drive.) '''Jonathan''' (I assume his last name is Howe, as he is a programmer) has left a message in a comment to the "'''Chapos'''" about the placement of certain "character shortcuts." He more or less 'signs' the comment with the words "Love, jonathan." I just found this rather amusing. Does anyone else? --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 20:37, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)

:Hmmm... Tricky. I like the base files though. Those can come in handy... [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<small><tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔Thunderbird⇔</font>]]</tt></small>'']] 12:12, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Halloween Costumes ==

If anyone can identify some of those halloween costumes from the museum sketchbook, (the last sketch), feel free to enter their names into the rollover title at the appropriate place saver. I can't really think of anything better at the moment, maybe I'll add them to the [[Halloween Costumes]] section or something later. Thanks. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<small><tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔Thunderbird⇔</font>]]</tt></small>'']] 12:12, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Images with Subtitles ==

Shouldn't the images for the Sketchbook and Fanstuff ''not'' have the captions with them? If not, the "Title" column is pretty much useless. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:24, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

It does seem redundant. It is easier to remove the "title" column, but then that text can not be found during a search. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 23:14, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

:Since the very beginning, we've always treated the text and image as one.  That's how they appear, so that's how we've been reproducing them.  And the additional text is for better searching.  I do notice, however, that the [[Sketchbook]] article lacks the interesting descriptions the [[Weekly Fanstuff]] page affords.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:57, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

==Moving the page==

Shouldn't this still be under simply a 'Sketchbook' page title? Perhaps it would make more sense to move The Museum Sketchbook to just that, a 'Museum Sketchbook' page or something. I mean, when you roll over the button on the main page, all that pops up under it is just 'Sketchbook'. We're not going to change the name of 'Quote of the Week' to just 'Weekly Quote' are we? (Sorry I missed the discussion on the [[Sketchbook]] page) [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<small><tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔Thunderbird⇔</font>]]</tt></small>'']] 15:31, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Er, good point.  So you're thinking we should move Weekly Sketchbook --> Sketchbook and Sketchbook --> Museum Sketchbook.  That makes sense to me, but then again so did moving the weekly sketchbook section to this page.  What do you think?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:01, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
::I second Tom--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:34, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Yup. I appreciate the work you went to fixing all the links, and don't like to ask you to change them back, but it really makes sense to keep the names the website came up with. I third Tom. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<small><tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔Thunderbird⇔</font>]]</tt></small>'']] 14:17, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::Fourth'd! </tgs> -- [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 14:51, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::::Okay, then unless anyone else wants to do it, or objects in the next few days, I'm gonna do the move. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<small><tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔Thunderbird⇔</font>]]</tt></small>'']] 19:41, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::::It should be easy, since I went through and made sure all the links were correct for the first move.  I would change all the "Sketchbook" links to "Museum Sketchbook" first, then move "Sketchbook" to "Museum Sketchbook".  This will create a redirect at "Sketchbook" so you can move "Weekly Sketchbook" to "Sketchbook".  Then when you change the "Weekly Sketchbook" links to "Sketchbook", it will be a bit easier.  If you need any help, just ask.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:29, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

== Sketch Descriptions? ==

Should we add descriptions to the sketches, like we did with the [[Weekly Fanstuff]]? Some people might have no idea what the sketches are of.--[[User:Lord Pikachon|The guy who's name you probably know]]

:It would be nice to have some links on some of the more obscure sketches (like Mashed Potato Jones or the Balding Man). <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<font color=#8B0000>Aurora the Homestar Coder</font>]]</tt></small> 19:12, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Okay, me, Trogga, and Homestar Coder have begun working on descriptions.--[[User:Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]

== Pawn of a hat? ==
I don't wat to start an edit war, but I just don't see [[Strong Sad]] as a game pawn in [[Image:problematics.PNG|this picture]]. I see it as Strong Sad's head shooting out of a magic hat. [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 18:23, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:I see Strong Sad's head on a game pawn, and I definately don't see it coming out of a hat. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 18:26, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Me as well -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:26, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::I see what hes talking about. {{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}}

::::I really wish I could find a picture on the internet, but it looks to me like SS is one of those toys that little kids play with.  They're basically just comprised of a cylinder and a head.  I don't know what they're called though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:01, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::Ooh, I know just the things. I think my grandmother still has 'em. I'll see if I can get a pic. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::::::I found [http://www.andertoons.com/images/blog/LittlePeople.jpg a picture]...anyone else think that's what the sketch of SS is? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:08, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::::Yes, exactly! That's just what I was thinking, and have been since it was put up. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::::::::Does anyone know what they're called? (is it "Little People"?) I think we should probably mention this on the page. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:18, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::I had those as a kid, and I recall them being called "Little People". {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:24, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::They're Playschool Little People, I think. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::::::::::[http://www.fisher-price.com/US/littlepeople/default_flash.asp Fisher-Price], actually. And they're no longer in that classic design. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:27, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::::Add'd. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:31, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

==Computer Sketch==

Can somebody read that floppy to the right of Homestar on the Comp? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:40, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:Or can anybody read Basic? Does the summary mean anything in particular? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:42, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::Or know what brand of computer that is? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:46, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::Just looked up the basic, " 160 vlin 12, 17 at 26". 160 is the line number of the command. It means draw a vertical line from y-coordinate 12 to y-coordinate 17 at x-coordinate 26. That compy looks like an Apple II to me (and I found the "vlin" thing on an Apple II page). {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:47, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::::I've seen that PC before... Isn't that the one from [[Peasant's Quest Preview]]? Or is it the one from [[Puppet Time]]? --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 18:55, 7 October 2005 (BST)
:::::Okay, I updated the page with the info Coder found. And if anybody could zoom in and read that floppy or anything, that would be awsome. And after careful cross-scruiteny, it appears that the computer used in the Sketchbook is indeed the same used by the [[Videlectrix]] people, even on the same desk. The one difference is that the logo on the keyboard (I think it was the Apple logo) is strangely absent from the [[Videlectrix]] photo. Most likely to avoid any possible legal problems and simplify it up, since they were photoshopping the [[Peasant's Quest]] image onto the screen anyways. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:43, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Consistency in dates ==

I just noticed that the date abbreviations in this page are not consistent.  In general I have seen pages use 3 letter abbreviations.  This is the case for most months here except: Sept, June (listed as both June and Jun) and April (also listed as Apr).  I suggest that we make them all be 3 character abbreviations no more. Sounds good? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:15, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
:Well since there was no mention either way i'm gonna go ahead and do it. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:45, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

== Mixed-up pictures ==

There's something wrong with my computer or something like that. In the Sketchbook window, I see the words "homestar ice crusher", but from there up it's the old picture of Strong Mad holding his mystical orbs. [http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/9644/sketchbookmessedup3wr.png 1] You guys are pretty computer-savvy, anyone know what's wrong? And if not, please don't blame me. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 09:00, 24 December 2006 (EST). Well, it's actually 12:05 on January 27, 2006.
:A lot of users have been commenting on similar mysterious problems, and it likely surrounds your page cache and what cached version of what your browser is loading.  In this case it's loading a recent .xml with an old picture.  Try clearning your cache to see if that does the trick.  I think that's what the other users recommend, and pretty much the only thing that would solve it. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:13, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

== none shall pass! ==

None shall pass! for a minute there i thought it read, YOU SHALL NOT PASS! for lord of the rings: the fellowship of the ring?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 10:22, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

:I actually was thinking Monty Python and the Holy grail when I say that. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:06, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
:: I agree with Inivsible Robot Fish. [[USer:Sbmaniac|Sbmaniac]]

== Commas vs. Periods ==

I'll grant that commas and periods are barely distinguishable from each other in the caption font. But you can tell the difference by looking very closely. Commas have the smallest tail imaginable. Compare:

[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/e/e9/20060119_sketchbook_orbs_up_yo.PNG orbs up, yo]<br />
[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/7/79/20060209_sketchbook_nice_inking_mike.PNG nice inking, mike]<br />
[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/8/81/20060216_sketchbook_none_shall_pass_eww.PNG none shall pass! eww.]

If you cannot see a slight dip (just a pixel or two) in the comma images, copy all three of them to MS Paint (or whatever), zoom in, and compare the commas and periods. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:53, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

== poopertrooper? ==

On the page, it says "poopertrooper" is a reference to Super Troopers. I think it's more likely it's a refernce to pooper scoopers. -[[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]] 23:39, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
:I thought of "pooper scooper" when I first saw it. Super Troopers, to me, seems a lot more unlikely. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 00:06, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[[IMDB:tt0247745|Super Troopers]] is a movie about state troopers, who's uniform is nowhere near to what the poopsmith wears. In science fiction, stromtroopers dress in a similar way to The Poopsmith. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:34, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
:There is no way storm troopers has any relevance here.  Poopertrooper - pooper scooper is just as good as poopertrooper to super troopers. one has the same root of pooper, the other has same ending of trooper, storm trooper is just not even close and they don't look anything alike.  {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:37, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

:I thought it sounded like Koopa Troopas. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 23:55, 17 March 2006(UTC)

::That seems like way too much of a stretch. If they wanted to reference Koopa Troopas, it probably would have said "Poopa Troopas". [[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]] 02:17, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

:Don't get mad, I wasn't the one that edited it into the article. I only said what I thought it was at first, I wasn't like "0MG J00 5UX0R L4M0 L0L I7 I5N7 UB3R P00P3R SC00P3R I7 K00P4 7R00P4!!!!!!!!111111!!!11!!!11!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!111one" - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 02:36, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
:: Chill out, I wasn't mad, I was just commenting that it seemed like too much of a stretch. [[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]] 20:49, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Now I'M mad that people keep changing the article cos they think my idea was right, it wasn't even an idea! - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 00:52, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

I vote Super Troopers. Its about police. The stormtrooper Poopsmith is obviously a form of police. Referencing pooperscoopers makes *no* contextual sense. I'm changing it back. [[User:Piscez]]

:Here's what bugs me. When you say, "this '''is''' a reference to..." you are stating something is fact.  In this case, we all have our opinions, and each think ours are correct.  The fact '''is''' that none of were there when TBC sketched this out and don't have a flippin' clue what they were refering to.  Therefore, I propose the following revision:
==== Pooper Trooper Scooper Dooper Blooper ====
Sketches of [[The Poopsmith]] as a trooper, for [[disconnected]]. The caption could be a reference to the device [[Wikipedia:pooper-scooper|pooper-scoopers]], the movie [[Wikipedia:Super_Troopers|Super Troopers]], the [[wikipedia:Mario|Super Mario Brothers']] [[Wikipedia:Koopa|Koopa Troopas]], or the [[wikipedia:George_Lucas|George Lucas']] [[Wikipedia:Stormtroopers|stormtroopers]].

{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:44, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

In general, users here seem to think "refers to" means "resembles". IRF is right; only TBC know for sure about what's a reference. Some are obvious, but I'm sure there are a lot of references we'll never get. And then there are a lot of things that resemble other things but TBC never were trying to refer to that thing. I think as a knowledge base we need to be a bit more conservative in how we decide references. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 12:50, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

''Stormtroopers'' seems the most obvious reference.  Not the George Lucas kind, but rather the Hitler/Orwell kind.  (Those of you who are still somewhat whippersnapperesque should be aware that the term predated ''Star Wars'' by a great many years.)  Most of the other suggested references seem to be simple attempts to match up same or similar sounding words, rather than considering the actual ''context''. {{User:Bill/sig}} 17:03, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

:Storm troopers is what I was saying all along. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:32, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

ok then ''Sketches of [[The Poopsmith]] as a trooper, for [[disconnected]]. The caption could be a reference to the device [[Wikipedia:pooper-scooper|pooper-scoopers]], the movie [[Wikipedia:Super_Troopers|Super Troopers]], the [[wikipedia:Mario|Super Mario Brothers']] [[Wikipedia:Koopa|Koopa Troopas]], or [[Wikipedia:Stormtroopers|stormtroopers]] (from [[wikipedia:World_War_I|WWI]]).''

either way, its still spec at best, and in response to Bill, the usage of pooper cannot be ignored why else would TBC go from The Poopsmith to pooper if not trying to make a ryhme such as Super Trooper or refer to the legendary pooper scooper. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:48, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
:For the rhyme, perhaps. Just because the rhyme is funny. Doesn't have to be a reference to pooper or super. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:54, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

My two cents: Pooper Scooper and Stormtrooper are both meaningful enough to be included. "Super Trooper" and "Koopa Troopa" are both based on "Stormtrooper" and, thus, unnecessary. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Ahem. I would Like to add at this point that the Koopa Troopas were the second most common enemies (next to goombas) in the original Super Mario Bros., which came out BEFORE Star Wars: A New Hope. So if anything, Stormtroopers are based off of Koopa Troopas. (Very, very unlikely.) --{{User:The very strongest}} 12:35, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

:See my retraction above, storm troopers is a term that refers to certain soldiers at the end of WWI, which is pre-television. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 21:28, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I like your idea, I R F, I vote that we go with that one. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 04:36, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok, the opinions are vast so I think a good'ol vote is in order

'''version 1''' ''current version''<br>
Sketches of [[The Poopsmith]] as a trooper, for [[disconnected]]. The caption is a reference to [[Wikipedia:pooper-scooper|pooper-scoopers]].
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'''version 2''' ''the loaded version''<br>
Sketches of [[The Poopsmith]] as a trooper, for [[disconnected]]. The caption could be a reference to the device [[Wikipedia:pooper-scooper|pooper-scoopers]], the movie [[Wikipedia:Super_Troopers|Super Troopers]], the [[wikipedia:Mario|Super Mario Brothers']] [[Wikipedia:Koopa|Koopa Troopas]], or [[Wikipedia:Stormtroopers|stormtroopers]] (from [[wikipedia:World_War_I|WWI]]).''
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'''version 3''' ''the bare version''<br>
Sketches of [[The Poopsmith]] as a trooper, for [[disconnected]]. 
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'''version 4''' ''combination (please specify which items qualify as a reference)''<br>
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== Super Suudsu Me ==

Feels like the 5-month-old suudsu is a reference to the French fry aging experiment in [[Wikipedia:Super Size Me|Super Size Me]]. But I haven't seen the film, so I don't know how direct the connection is. Anyone want to do a little fact-checking here? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:54, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
:I haven't seen it either, but the fact that this was posted five months to the day after [[bedtime story]] was released says to me that nobody actually ''drank'' the suudsu or dumped it out, and it's just been sitting there. It actually reminds me of the old clichè of the guy with the extremely dirty bedroom finally trying to clean it up and pulling out a half-eaten sandwich or burrito from under the bed and exclaiming "So ''that's'' what happened to my sandwich [burrito]." And by then it's covered with mold and he's got to shoo a [[Gavin|roach]] or two away from it before he touches it. The only specific example I can think of right now is from [[Wikipedia:Even Stevens]] (the episode where a haz mat team is needed to clean Louis's room and he has to sleep in Donnie's room. No, I don't watch the Disney channel anymore, but my younger sbblings frequently leave the TV on when they're not watching it and my ADD brain will be distracted by ut. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 20:40, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

== suudsu sketch? ==

Is it noteworthy that this is only the 2nd time that the sketch isn't a sketch but a photograph?
{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:46, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
:Th' last photo was sort of a sketch. Just a computer-generated one. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::This would be the first Sketchbook item which cannot really be called a sketch. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:58, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
::Sketch: [http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Sketch Dictionary.com], [[Wiktionary:Sketch|Wikitionary]], [[Wikipedia:Sketch|Wikipedia]] [[User:Beep|Beep]] 22:20, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

== Missy's The Cheat ==

Hmm... an upcoming Marzipan-drawn episode?? Probably not, but if it happens, you read it here first! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:00, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
*It looks like a Dr. Seuss character.  Like it's got a lion head and tail, but with a penguin body.  I think it's kinda cute though! -[[User:Compdude|Compdude]]
*I think it looks like an Easter egg with a lion's mane, beady eyes, and a tail. Very nice, though. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:31, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
*You just know that in another six months they're going to turn that into a guest character. [[User:68.104.201.53|68.104.201.53]] 06:55, 13 April 2006 (UTC)


==Female Coach Z?==

It says that's some kind of female coaz Z with a 3 instead of a Z is in this week's sketchbook... But it's clearly Homeschool winner's symbol! And I guess this means this is an alternate verion of Coach Z who'll never be used...
:Not sure about the HW connection - his symbol is a speech balloon. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:04, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
::While I'm not entirely sure it's a female (I was edit-conflicted on putting it up, and my description just said "long-haired"), I can safely say that's a three. Dunno where you're getting the Homeschool Winner thing from. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I can see from where he got the Homeschool idea from. The space between the 3 and the circle looks like Homeschool's word bubble upside down. But it says 3 on the caption iself, so no argue there. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:13, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

==Numba zero==

I removed the Gilbert Arenas reference from last week's sketch description because there's no proof that it is. There have been plenty of players in the NBA who've worn number 0, and it can't be more than coincidence. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:35, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

==Sample of Style==

Anyone else notice a simularity between the styles of Numba 0 Strong Sad and Droolstar Runner? They're both in a new sketchy style with lots of detail and shadow as if they were draw at the same time or for the same purpose. Not only that they're also both in a very school-type setting. Granted Homestar could be asleep anywhere, and Strong Sad could be playing professional basketball but I seriously doubt thats the case. My question is, do you guys think this is a sign of toons to come?
*Hmm, maybe! They could be getting more into chiaroscuro shading, like SS's dragon.[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

== 1-up? ==

Im'a prootty sure that shoe says [[Wikipedia:7-Up|7-Up]]--{{User:Benol/sig}} 22:39, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
: I saw a "1". Anyway, although the poor drawing in the background looks more like Homestar, the boot looks very much like a [[20X6]] boot. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:56, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
::I think it looks like 7-Up, too. But I don't think it is, after all Homestar's has a [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|star]] on it. That would mean 1-Up would have that or some kind'a familiar mushroom… [[User:Stongbah|Stongbah]] 18:23, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
:::I thought it was a "7" the first time I saw it, and I still think it looks like one. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 19:09, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I also can see "7-up", but "1-up" makes more sense in the context. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:46, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

== One and a half King of Towns ==

Should the plural of "King of Town" be "King of Towns" or "Kings of Town"? [[User:Gus|Gus]] 04:55, 4 August 2006 (UTC) (Perhaps "A King of Town and a half"?)
:I honestly don't know. I think it should be entirely reworded to we don't have to deal with it. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:57, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
::Good point, guys. I've changed it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:04, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
[[Image:Kotqowopera.png|thumb|The KOT... and then a half? (Opera&nbsp;9)]]
In Opera 9, it seems there are rendering issues. Anyone else see something similar to this? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:21, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I did in Firefox. See [[#Weird glitch]] below. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 19:33, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

== Taste it out? ==

It's said on the page that "taste it out" may be based on [[lady fan]]'s "twees it out". I'm not so sure; it reminds me more of a line from [[do over]] ("taste out one of them Cheatcakes"). Thoughts? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:13, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
:[[TTATOT]], or we add a new word running gag page about "out". But I don't think so. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:17, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
:: You're misapplying the term TTATOT, as this isn't it. I don't think it's referring to a set of similar lines, I think it's referring to one line. Just not the one mentioned on the page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:21, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
:::"Twees it out" was the first thing that came to my mind... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::TTATOT, as in "unusual use of the word 'out'".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:25, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
:::: You're still misusing TTATOT, and even if it was, the correct solution would be to remove any trace of reference entirely. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:27, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::"Twees it out" is what I thought of  at first too, but I'm not convinced it refers to anything in particular. TBC enjoy using words in strange ways; it needn't necessarily be a reference. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:40, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::"Taste out one o' them Cheatcakes" is what popped into my head, what with the act of tasting in the picture and all. However, TBC have been known to use words in extremely odd ways, such as "Style" and others. I'd be inclinec to believe it's just some unusual word use that TBC employ in theirdaily lives that has spilled over in order to make Homestar Runner just that more bizarre.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 05:00, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

== Text bug ==

[[Image:Sketchbookbug.PNG|thumb]]
I've seen this reverted a few times, so here is the prove. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:59, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

:Well, neither I nor anyone else have the capability any longer. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 23:28, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

::The capability of what? If you mean reproducing the bug, you're wrong. It's still there.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:32, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Apparently it's not repoducible on Mac or Linux, but only on ''Firefox'' under ''Windows''.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:56, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

== The Bendy Hop ==

It's really not a big deal, but I feel confident enough about it to post a comment on this talk page.  I think that the "bendy hop" is a particular reference to the [[Wikipedia:Lindy Hop|lindy hop]], for the following reasons: (1) the titles differ only by two letters, (2) Coach Z's pose looks strongly like a typical swing/jazz dance step, of which the Lindy Hop is probably the most famous.

It was suggested that this might be more likely a reference to the [http://www.ehow.com/how_15790_bunny-hop.html bunny hop], but I question this, for the following reasons: this dance is less well-known (I base this, perhaps unjustly, on the relative size of the Wikipedia articles), and Coach Z's pose doesn't resemble the dance steps as described in the above link.  (The bunny hop is a line dance involving other people and focuses on foot steps but not arm movements.)  If we can rule out the bunny hop, then I don't think this fact is TTATOT, unless other candidates for "that" and "the other thing" exist. 

Again, it won't break my heart if this fact is not changed back to my version, but I really do think that this is a particular reference to the lindy hop. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:09, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

:When I first saw the Sketchbook item and was preparing the screencap, I considered including the reference to a particular dance. But with the Lindy Ho, the Bunny Hop, and the classic song "At The Hop", and I'm sure others, I could not allow myself to attach the dance to any particular one of those. We can never know which one was the reference. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:01, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

::I thought it was a sketch for his jumping pose seen in A Folky Tale and geddup noise. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 07:48, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

== The Thinkin Man ==
Reference to Yellow Dellow?  It looks more like a reference to the famous statue, "[[Wikipedia:The Thinker|The Thinker]]."
:You could be right, but I don't know how anybody could confirm either of those, so I removed the statement. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:15, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
::If you imagine the Rodin sculpture sans arms, the pose is nearly identical.  Seems like a clear reference to me. -- [[User:Mayosolo|Mayosolo]] 23:35, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
:::When I added it, I immediately thought of the scene in Yello Dello where Homestar <s>thought and thought and thought</s> craped craped and craped all over that rock. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:59, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

== Kingsmen Duo a reference? ==

The "Kingsmen Duo" are probably a reference to the famous folk band "[[Wikipedia:The Kingston Trio|The Kingston Trio]]".
:That sounds plausible. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::<s>I agree &mdash; it's a definite reference.</s> {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:28, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
:::It's a plausibility, but it might just be a stretch.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:31, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Despite my former conviction (which was based on the wrong assumption that the folk band was named "The Kings<b>men</b> Trio"), I think that this is a reference to these two being the only of The King of Town's employees to be conspicuously absent from [[All the King's Men]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:37, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::Note that the "Kingston Trio" reference was voted down in STUFF for [[senior prom]]. I don't know if this matters here. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:46, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::Actually, it [[Talk:senior prom#Closed STUFF|wasn't voted on in STUFF at all]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::::I don't think it's a reference for the band "The King's Men" but given the construction "The Kingsmen Duo" it becomes very likely. They have not previously been given the peculiar one-word construction "Kingsmen", and "The Kingsmen Duo" is grammatically strange unless in reference to The Kingston Trio. --Same Guy As The First Post

== "In a river of whatsit"? ==

Thats not correct at all! Come on people what is whatsit a euphamism of?
:there seems to be some disagreement over whether the whatsit refers to his situation (like "I'm in deep whatsit") or the actual composition of that river.. All I know is.. eew..

:: seems to me that the only disagreement would be with people who have never heard the informal military expression 'in the "whatsit"'; or at the very least people who have never been, as fightgar apparently is in this drawing, 'in the "whatsit"' themselves.  It's figurative.  He may indeed be in a river of 'whatsit', but he is also (and this is what the BC mean) figuratively 'in the "whatsit"', as both his expression and the flames shooting out of his weapon clearly indicate to anyone familiar with the expression, 'in the "whatsit"'.  I mean, come on, who has never heard that expression?  Ask a soldier; even a wannabe soldier.
::: Or even a "I have no interest in anything military" non-soldier like myself.  It's the phrase. See [[Wikipedia:List_of_U.S._Army_acronyms_and_expressions|Wikipedia's List]] under field expresions. - {{User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C/Sig}} 18:16, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
--I haven't. I doubt most of America has heard it, either. Please explain. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:04, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

::I've heard of "in the $%&#"  It's not that uncommon of a phrase.  It is what you are in after the whatsit hits the fan. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:03, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

--It was mentioned in [[Wikipedia:Rushmore (film)|the film Rushmore]] in an exchange between the Jason Schwartzman and Bill Murray characters. [[User:Agnamaracs|Agnamaracs]] 00:40, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

== What kind of gun is Fighthar using? ==

When I saw the picture I couldn't help but wonder. I started looking up gun types to draw a conclusion, and when I did, I realized my (work?) shouldn't go to waste, so I'd better post the firearm I settled on here. I don't really expect a response, as the title would suggest. Anyway, my guess is a suppressed folded-stock AKS-47. [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:32, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

It's a mishmash rich-tapestry cartoon-gun.  The only think it has in common with any Kalashnikov (like your AKS-47 or 74) is the curved magazine.  The guard on the barrel is from a machine gun like a .30 Browning, but the only thing with that type of guard that is even consistent with the size of what Fightgar is holding is the cheapo Tek-9 SMG used by every terrorist or drug dealer's henchman in every American action film in the 80s.  I have to say, (not because I'm in the NRA (I'm not) or 'love guns' (I don't) or anything, but because I'm a writer and a former infantry soldier. . . there. . . I apologized for knowing about guns) I know guns, and that is not any gun on the face of the earth.  It *is* a pretty neat looking cartoon gun though.

==HOTT==

I don't think that's a TT, I think it's Pi. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 23:54, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

:It kind of looks like that, but I'm pretty sure it's TT &mdash; Strong Bad's trying to look young by wearing a girly tee, and in that case "HOTT" makes more sense than "HOπ". {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:09, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

::I think it's [[Pi]] because of the running gag, and the fact the pi was already shown to be used as a double-T in TGS's Smartly Pretty. Another point: Geeky T-shirt are also popular with todays young people, like Strong Sad, and pi as T's is pretty geeky. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 04:48, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Hmm... but doesn't it seem that Strong Bad's idea of what would be popular among young people would be contrary to Strong Sad's?  I see your point, but it doesn't seem to fit together to me... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:00, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
::: ''(Edit Conflict)'' I see no reason to assume it's a Pi. It's just two Ts that got smooshed together in a small low-res picture. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:01, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
::::It looks like pi to me because of the little curly bit at the bottom (even though it's at the wrong side). I think it's pi. It looks like it and TBC have used it before, so it's not that unlikely.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:03, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Trey: Please remember that the first "young parson" Strong Bad goes to in the email is Strong Sad. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:05, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::Like Trey said, "HOTT" just makes more sense that "HOpi" (and not one word about Hopi Indians either, coz I already thought of that, and that makes even LESS sense). Plus, since the style seemed to be going more toward "old person" style, I think "HOTT" makes more sense to that too. It's a well-known fact that old people aren't good with numbers. Right, Grandma? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:07, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::Elcool: See? DorianGray agrees with me; you should too ;) Seriously though, you make a good point about Strong Bad going to Strong Sad first after his operation, but when he does, he doesn't talk about something "geeky" like ''Nerdular Nerdence'' magazine; he brings up something that's supposed to be "hip and trendy", Go-Gurt. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:16, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Ok, while that's true, what we see here is a scrapped idea. TBC thought, like you, that HOpi is not that funny/goes well with the whole young thing. But it doesn't mean that that's not what is written there for the reasons I mentioned above. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:22, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Well, I always thought that the text ''means'' "HOTT", but is ''written'' as "HOPI" to make it look cooler.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 08:51, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I suppose all this could be noted in the article in the ''guess''-based wiki anyone can edit.... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:50, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::Loafing: Yeah, I meant it means "hot", but spelled as HO<span style="font: italic 120% Times New Roman,Times,serif">'''&pi;'''</span> to look cool. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:51, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

==fish drive thru==
It looks like the fish sam an max get into to get to the other side of the largest ball of twinell

== Weird glitch ==

[[Image:SketchGlitch413.PNG]]

I saw this on Friday. It may be my slow connection. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 19:32, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

== AH! ==

[hairsplitting]
Even though the "AH!" in "ooh. AH!" is capitalized in the XML, this page doesn't ask for what it says in the XML. It asks for the "Caption." And the caption of this particular sketch renders it in all lowercase. Again: am I missing something?
[/hairsplitting]<br>
[[User:Rowsdower45|Rowsdower45]] 21:53, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
:I see the XML as the official spelling. They type what they intended it to say into the XML. It apparently automatically changes it to lowercase no matter what. Therefore, since the XML is emptied with each new one, we should record it as it was intended to be written. For posterity. Maybe a little prosperity. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
::I see what's displayed as the original spelling. XML is only what's happening behind the scenes, and it's (slight) speculation that this is actually the intended spelling. I suggest we use the displayed text as the official spelling and note that it was spelled differently in the XML file.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:02, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
::Seconded. [[User:Rowsdower45|Rowsdower45]] 01:08, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
:::We always write out the Quote of the Week exactly as written, so why not the others? If they didn't intend it that way, they wouldn't've written it that way in the XML. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:53, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, the QOTW always shows up with proper capitalization. And no one's challenging what TBC intended, but TBC are certainly aware that Sketchbook text always turns out lowercase. Let's write the caption as presented, then add: (capitalized "ooh. AH!" in the XML file) [[User:Rowsdower45|Rowsdower45]] 17:08, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::If we choose to make it lowercase, I don't think there's any need of putting that extra bit you suggested Rowsdower. We could, however, possibly make a FF that mentions it. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 19:52, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

==Craiged?==

Does anybody think that the reason why Strong Bad "got Craiged" might have something to do with [[Craig Zobel|someone who probably drew the picture]]? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:40, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
:That's what I was thinking too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:50, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
::My first thought was [http://www.craigslist.com Craig's List], though Mr. Zobel does seem a bit more plausible from TBC. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 03:58, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

== Crotch shot ==

Now we know what Homestar Runner wears under his... whatever that garment is. [[User:76.200.158.120|76.200.158.120]] 19:20, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
:we do? how?
::Check 12 of Oct. UPSKIRT'd! By the Way, on the new one, (Nov 15) PP's supposed house looks like one of the character sketches in the museum (Second Book sketches) {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 01:27, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

== SCHOOL UP ==

[[Strong Bad]] looks like [[Stinkoman]] in the newest sketch, and [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] looks like [[1-Up]]. {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 22:44, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
:I agree. {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 19:42, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah. Strong Bad/Stinkoman has hair and teeth, and Homestar/1-Up has robot like boots, big eyes, a rounded head, an a round hat. --[[User:76.24.115.207|76.24.115.207]] 20:52, 15 December 2007 (UTC) (Kirbychu HR'D)
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== The Embezzlememt ==

I just noticed something. TBC clearly wrote "The Embezzlement" in their sketch, but the actual sign read "The Embezzleme'''m'''t". Remark-worthy? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:I wouldn't think so...the spelling error itself isn't readily visible unless you read the sign carefully. In all probability TBC either didn't notice the error and spelled their version correctly, or noticed the error but decided to spell their version correctly for whatever reason. So...not really worth noting, I think. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 02:56, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

==the many styles of  Dr. Bubs==
"Best Bubs Worst Bubs" might be a reference to one of Dr. Seuss' books, though the name escapes me... {{User:Don't say jorb 101/sig}}

== March 13 image ==

Are we sure that's a tongue next to SB? --[[User:74.173.153.110|74.173.153.110]] 07:43, 14 March 2008 (UTC)