Editing Talk:diorama

== The Deciders? ==

I heard "the signers" {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:02, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
:You are right. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 15:03, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

== Soolnds ==
"Dr. Soft-Soolnd's Tan Medical Shoes" is a reference to Strong Sad's Soolnds. This should be mentioned under "Inside Jokes". --Anon {{unsigned|72.1.206.12|15:24, 3 December 2007 (UTC)}}
:I {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=diorama&diff=523947&oldid=523946 added a link in the transcript}}. I think this should be enough... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
::I dunno, I never actually read the transcripts... I recognized the reference, but not everyone will. [[User:Dalkaen|Dalkaen]] 01:40, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Seconded.  I rarely read the transcripts, unless I'm not sure what a certain line is.  I skip straight to the Fun Facts, so it would nice to have it mentioned down there. [[User:Aaronstj|Aaronstj]] 19:04, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I also agree that this should be mentioned under "Inside References". I have tried to place this bit of info there a couple times now but it was removed.--[[User:192.197.71.189|192.197.71.189]] 17:31, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

== Simpsons?? ==
The remark regarding the Simpsons episode seems like a stretch at best. I figured I'd open that for discussion before charging in there and deleting it. [[User:Gerta|Gerta]] 15:46, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

== Coach Z easter egg ==

What does this have anything to do with the email? Is there a connection that i'm missing? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:30, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
: Good question. I also feel that, although the cheating line is obvious, the reason why The Cheat is holding the Lappy is going over my head. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:03, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
: Oh, wait, I get part of the Coach Z scene. The KoT book is supposedly written by "Ronmartin Realdude", the same person Coach Z is allegedly talking to. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:07, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
::Okay, but why would coach z be talking to a fake author about a fake relationship on a fake cell phone? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:13, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
:::That's the joke. [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 06:44, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Why does The Cheat cuddle a groadulated sponge called The Denzel? How did Strong Mad shape his mouth into a house and eat a crappy old computer? Why did Homestar make a cardboard girlfriend? Jeez, man! -[[User:GardenBoy|GardenBoy]] 00:48, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
: I think the reason the Cheat is holding the Lappy is because we're assuming he helped Strong Bad with all the internet site stuff for the fake book, since SB isn't exactly advanced to internet level. -Cyndentia
::We're heading into forum speculation but here's what I think: The Cheat's walking off with the Lappy because he's going to design, program and create the book website for Strong Bad's diorama project. As we all know, Strong Bad's lazy and always gets his lackey to do all his work. It would explain why The Cheat makes "agreeing The Cheat noises" when Strong Bad says "It's gotten so hard to cheat these days!" because he's got to make the website. And The Cheat is the one most skilled with technology. Then again, why would he use the Lappy instead of the Tangerine Dreams or Monosodium Dreams? Hmmm. Oh, and Coach Z's irrelevant scene is just there to make you laugh. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:35, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I'm pretty sure it was in reference to the SedBed's comments that "Cheating is getting harder." I'm pretty sure Teh C is simply absconding with the Lappy, and showing the ease of actual cheating. [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 21:13, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
::::At this point this topic is getting into the realm of speculation, and i would really suggest that we stop now and move it to the forum. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
::I assumed The Cheat was haulin' the laptop simply because it's a visual representation of "It's gotten so hard to cheat", as similarly it's gotten hard to '''be''' a The Cheat. '''&rarr;''' {{User:Peacey_P/sig}} 17:47, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

== KoT skin color ==

was this the first time we could see the King's skin? if so, can someone put this in the article? -Raltaran
*It's already in there. [[User:Homsarian79|Homsarian79]] 15:24, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

== Not a Cat ==

When Strong Bad is talking about the website that Molly would have to make for a fake book, the author blurb mentions that he is "NOT a cat!!"  This is the classic line of Evil the Cat from Earthworm Jim, when he's in disguise.  Should this be a reference?--[[User:Gaeamil|Gaeamil]] 19:40, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
:Agreed. --[[User:72.226.234.136|72.226.234.136]] 23:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
:I've never seen the show, so I can't be sure how appropriate it is, but Wikipedia's entry on [[Wikipedia:Evil_the_Cat|Evil the Cat]] does make a pretty good case for it being a reference. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 22:36, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
::Enough for me. It's up on there.  My first caught reference!  Woohoo!--[[User:Gaeamil|Gaeamil]] 00:09, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::since some people think its ttatot, should we bring it to stuff? {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 01:39, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Those who think it's ttatot have not provided other examples of what it could be, i say wait it out. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:41, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::"See the edit summary." has gotta be the most descriptive edit summary ever:P.  [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 02:36, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::I should've been more specific. I actually deleted a very similar fact once before; this was already here, then someone posted this:

<blockquote>
*The insistence that the author is not a cat on the bookazon.com website is a reference to the Natsume Soseki classic novel ''I Am a Cat'', a story told from the point view of a cat observing Japanese middle class life.
</blockquote>

...with the edit summary being...

<blockquote>
It could be the Shonen Knife song that also references the novel....
</blockquote>

So, DeFender, there's your "that" (a novel) and "the other thing" (a song). It's too vague to be a concrete reference to anything. -{{User:YK/sig}} 02:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:I have to agree that a book review asserting to not be a cat made me think of "I Am a Cat" before Evil the Cat, for what it's worth, though the assertion does ''fit'' Evil the Cat.  (And YK, I knew what you meant, it was just really funny out of context.) [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 02:47, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
::Though FWIW, I don't think TBC have a very big precedent for referencing Japanese stuff. A 90's game/cartoon seems more likely. [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 02:49, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::As well, the "author" says at the end: "Did I mention I'm not a cat?" which is ''verbatim'' of Evil's usual line.
::::The "author" does not say that verbatim, though. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:19, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

== Intro ==

*Strong Bad's tone of voice at the beginning of the email could be a reference to the video game [[wikipedia:Portal_%28video_game%29|Portal]], in which the antagonist GLaDOS often mentions cake.
This fact was quickly removed, but it raises a good question (one that i didn't know how to raise in a non-forummy way until now) and that is, what the heck is with the intro? IS it a reference to something? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:19, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

His tone of voice and diction sound to me like he's imitating Senor Cardgage. --[[User:69.254.41.106|69.254.41.106]] 19:20, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, so a little computer that is near death and lonely gets made fun of and makes people GLaD and makes them laugh just for eating cake? that is not right. and yes i have the game. and beaten the game. and played the commentary, for the game.GLaDoS's helper [[User:Imdaman]]

I think it's a LOLCATS reference.  [http://www.evangelicaloutpost.com/images/lolcats/madecookie.jpg This one, specifically.]  "I BAKD U A CAKE / IT HAZ RAIZENS" or something.  -- 00:28, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
*I'm fairly confident it's a reference to a scene in [[Wikipedia:Better Off Dead (film)|Better Off Dead]]. There's a running gag about John Cusack's mother being a terrible cook. In the scene in question, she tries a new recipe which results in some kind of weird slime dish with black spots in it. I don't remember the exact dialogue, but I do remember her saying, "It's got... raisins. You like raisins." John Cusack just stares at the lump of slime on his plate until it eventually crawls away. Do any of the regulars agree enough to add it? --[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/User:SM-716 '''SM-716'''] 04:52, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

== Image ==
I think we should have the image be of another diorama example, like James Buchanan must die.-Me

== 99.99.99 ==

Ya know, this is probably far fetched, but $99.99.99 was the most well-known phrase of Mike the TV from the TV Show ReBoot.  (The price of the 'Bucket o' Nothing' he was always advertising.) [[User:68.228.89.148|68.228.89.148]] 22:33, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

== King of Town's Adventures ==

I know that "The King of Town's Adventures in Giant Cockroachland" is a reference to "The Cheat's Cheatventures in Moses Maloneland", but I haven't a clue of how to phrase it. Anybody got any ideas? -{{User:Itama/sig}} 23:43, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
:I don't really think it *is* a reference, actually... "X's Adventures in X" is a common theme among childrens' books. -{{User:YK/sig}} 00:35, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
::most notably Alice's Adventure's in Wonderland.

== Byoo-cannon ==

* "Byoo-cannon" is also the name of a president. James Buchannon
This fact was recently removed, but i didn't realize this till i read it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:02, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:Then re-add it. It doesn't sound that good as written, though. -{{User:YK/sig}} 00:33, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
::The whole point of it being a "Byoo-cannon" is that it's being used on the clothespin avatar of James Buchanan. That's the joke. It's acknowledged right within the email itself that the target is Buchanan. This fact is thus completely obvious, and should not be added. [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 06:58, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
:::No, you misunderstand. I'm not saying it should go back in, as it's definitely explaining the joke. I put it here so that those who are slow (like me) might read it, but i agree it definitely doesn't belong in the article itself. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:17, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Oh, I see. That makes more sense. [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 21:49, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Also, how many people cas associate the Old Public Functionary with James Buchanan like that?  Other than American History teachers, of course.--[[User:Gaeamil|Gaeamil]] 00:12, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Perhaps you missed it like I did the first time, but that diorama has a "James Buchanan Gonna Die!" label at the top. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:15, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

==Wikipedia reference==

The "check your sources" statement could be referencing teachers disallowing Wikipedia as a source. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 01:31, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
: I'm sorry, but I don't see the logic leading to that conclusion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:34, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
::The internet comment. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 17:30, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
:::So you're saying that strong bad saying that it's easier for teachers to check something on the internet is a reference to teachers disallowing students from using a certain internet source? That's like saying that my using linux is a reference to people not liking AMD processors. (and in case that didn't make sense, that was the point, there IS no connection) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Bad Smiling ==

Strong Bad smiles when discussing the dinosaur attacking the treaty signers, can someone make this edit, as all my edits seem to get immediately deleted.

I think he smiles in like, every other cartoon, now. I don't think it's worth mentioning anymore.-Lappy z
:We actually had a [[Talk:Strong Bad Smiling#Notable?|discussion]] on whether or not that gag is worth recording at all, but it's too hard for some people here to decide if it is truly impossible for "happy" to be an opposite of "evil". [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:21, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

== Robots ==
A cardboard robot is shown twice, this should be mentioned as an inside reference.
:Something has to be shown three times or more to be an inside reference, and it doesn't even count if it only appears in one toon a few times. {{User:Don't say jorb 101/sig}}
::I think he's talking about cardboard and [[robots]]... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:37, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

== One off ==
When Strong Bad is talking about assasinations, his examples are one president before actual assasinated or attempted assasinated presidents. For example, Jimmy Carter was president before Reagan, who was shot, but didn't die. And James Buchanan was right before Lincoln, who was shot in Ford's theatre.-Lappy z (not logged in)

:I think that's pretty much the joke.  Everyone with rudimentary knowledge of the presidents would know that those two didn't get killed, and Strong Bad was just being silly.  Especially since, both times, the assassin was a robot.  But that is interesting that he's one president off each time.  I don't think it's worth a mention, really.  Make it an added bonus joke for knowing your presidents. ;) --[[User:Gaeamil|Gaeamil]] 00:15, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

== Eating Non-Food Items ==

Should the fact that the king of town eats a non-food item (The cotton balls) be mentioned on this page? It is allready mentioned on [[Eating Non-Food Items]] [[User:24.64.223.204|24.64.223.204]]

== Chemical add in  ==

Mollybdenum is a name parody of the element Molybdenum and I am right
:Mollybdenum is a name parody of the element Molybdenum and you are late.  ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 14:37, 4 December 2007 (UTC))
::Am I the only one that thought of 'moldy-bread-enum' when strong bad said 'mollybdenum'? [[User:Yadaman|Yadaman]] 22:52, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes. Yes you are. -[[User:GardenBoy|GardenBoy]] 00:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== This Might Be a Shout-Out ==

Why the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo?  My theory: because it featured James K. Polk, who was the subject of a TMBG song.  Of course it's a huge stretch, so I'll just put it here and let you guys laugh.
:Ha, ha, ha! That's just like saying "Why the desert? Because it features camels, which have humps, which were the subject of a BEP song. No hard feelings though, right Annony? -[[User:GardenBoy|GardenBoy]] 01:03, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== 0.999... = 1 ==

The '249.999999' made me think of a certain concept in math, this being that '0.999...' equals 1. Anyone think this is a reference, or am I just putting too much thought into this? I mean, if they rounded the price up to the nearest cent (which is done in cent fractions when they occur in tax, so it presumably would be done here), it'd be $250, so .999999 = 1. I think this deserves at least an 'explanation,' but wanted to ask first and am too lazy really to set up a STUFF at the moment. [[User:Yadaman|Yadaman]] 22:51, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:To continue the mathematical theme, the odds of this being a reference rapidly approach zero. Obscure mathematical concepts do not good comedic references make. An explanation might be more appropriate, but the joke seems pretty self-explanatory to me. [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 06:53, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
::''"mathematical concepts do not good comedic references make"'' - You've never watched Futurama -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 22:08, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

== Coach Z's Crush on Marzipan ==

How many times has Coach Z talked to or about Marzipan as if he had a crush on her or was dating her? There was the time he drunk-dialed her on the answering machine and this. Are there any more? Is it enough to warrant a page or an inside joke?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 23:19, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
: I could see an argument for setting up a page on Coach Z's and Marzipan's relationship.  All in favor?  [[User:TJDevil02|TJDevil02]]
::It's a running gag, and a relatiohsip page would also cover the fact that Marzipan hates Coach Z and even had Bubs kick him in the crotch for her. Seconded. '''&rarr;''' {{User:Peacey_P/sig}} 18:12, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
::Third.  There's more than enough info for it, and I'm pretty surprised it's nt there already.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 16:59, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

== comming back? ==

Is the pink skin of the king of town has anything to with the old idea that he was marzipan's father?
:Probably not. It's speculation. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 23:51, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
::And since when is [[The Brothers Strong|looking like each other]] a sign of being [[Pom Pom's Hypothetical Family|related]] in H*R cartoons anyway? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:55, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Don't forget how there's no where indicating any relation between homestar and homsar... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:03, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
::::It has something to do with the fact that KOT has a beard, which causes the skin underneath to not get tan. -[[User:GardenBoy|GardenBoy]] 01:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Actual Publishing Company logo ==

Is the logo for the "Actual Publishing Company" a parody/reference to some other logo?  At first, it reminded me of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_Press Associated Press'] logo, but upon looking at the real logo, I'm not so sure.  The "P" in the logo reminds me of another logo, for some publishing company, IIRC, but which one?
:TTATOT [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 17:31, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

== Internet! ==

I suggested that "Internet" should be capitalized and had my edit reverted.  Discuss.  (For reference, [[Wikipedia:Internet#The_name_Internet|the Wikipedia article]] on the topic.) -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 21:36, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
:Because i'm an idiot. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:40, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
::Well, drat.  I was really hoping for a good ol' flame-grilled argument. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 22:21, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Arguing is stupid. Your face is stupid. Your butt is stupid. Your you is stupid. Flaming is stupid. (Am i doing a good job?) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:24, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Oh, I'm sorry, this is ''abuse''.  "Argument" is two doors down that way.  [[User:TJDevil02|TJDevil02]]

== Presidential Assassinations ==

Did anyone else see the start of the "Presidential Assassinations" diorama (a bush) and think it was going to be "the grassy knoll"? I was really worried there for a couple of seconds.  -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 22:29, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
:I wasn't worried, for the simple reason that it was Strong Bad and his unphotographic memory doing the diorama. [[User:EASports|EASports]] 04:43, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

== Gavin's family reunion ==
There's no mention of it, but I'd have to guess that one of those cockroaches is Gavin. [[User:EASports|EASports]] 04:43, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

== List Me ==

Can we start a list of all emails where strong bad is helpful like book report, bike thife, making-out, hygene and this one  {{unsigned|66.234.218.129|14:24, 8 December 2007 (UTC)}}
:I think it's rather debatable whether Strong Bad is actually being helpful. [[User:EASports|EASports]] 18:17, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
::I'm pretty sure he means where strong bad is asked for advice/help (usually on a school project) -[[User:GardenBoy|GardenBoy]] 00:42, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::If it's phrased that way, I would probably support it. Also, [[dragon]] would probably fall into that category, since he's attempting to teach Kaizer how to draw. [[User:EASports|EASports]] 22:56, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::::I mean where the person ask for help and lets do it
:I think a better way to categorize these would be "Tutorial"-style e-mails, where Strong Bad attempts to give instruction on a given topic. (For what it's worth, it seems to me that quite a few of them also seem to follow the old high-school essay format of Introduction, Option 1, Option 2, Option 3, Conclusion.)  -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 04:57, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
::Just do it now

== elf ==
anyone ever see that movie? in it, buddy ate cotton balls. real world ref?
:Probably not; I suspect it's just a ref to the fact that the KoT tends to eat anything. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:56, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
::Agreed, it's rather [[TTATOT]]. [[User:EASports|EASports]] 22:41, 9 December 2007 (UTC)