Editing Talk:long pants

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== General Email Reaction ==

Not one of the best Strong Bad Emails I've seen. There are some good points, such as Strong Bad's electronic (and permanent) eraser pen, and the return of the almighty BMW lighter, but sadly it was Homestar's constant yelling of "LONG PANTS! LONG PANTS!" that started to show its' down parts. Good try, but not one of the best. 3/5 --[[User:82.37.217.206|82.37.217.206]] 09:08, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I disagree, I thought this e-mail was hilarious and the "LONG PANTS!" part was great.  I thought this was much better than [[best thing]] (though not as good as [[rock opera]]). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

::Ditto. "Long long long long long long pants" was probably the funniest part, too, considering how Homestar just randomly shows up on the Lappy like he did. That and the edited e-mail was hilarious, too. Clown care... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:39, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Strong Bad's Eyes ==

I'm loathe to STUFF the Trivia item about Strong Bad's eyes narrowing, as it's obviously the very first time this happened (caught it after watching it the second time), but then, it's a weak Fun Fact.  I think it should stay though. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:45, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I definately say keep it. Personally I find these observations quite interesting, illustrating the evolving complexity of the HR animation. On that note - correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this email the first time we see Strong Bad crossing his legs, and bending his right arm across them? --[[User:Lor|Lor]] 22:35, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I'd keep it myself, considering it is, AFAIK, true. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:39, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Were me and my friends the only one curious as to why he never wore pants? The day this came out, we had a length discussion about it. I give it a 5 of 5, and that'll be that. --[[User:Heebewhammer23|Heebrewhammer23]]

== Hidden message in fortune cookies ==

As you hover over the fortune cookies, they break open and the fortunes move forward, unfolding.  If you take a screenshot just before the fortune is completely spread out, you can see a secret message on the fortunes.  It reads "You are not as good as most people." Here's the bitmap screenshot I grabbed: --[[User:68.165.246.205|68.165.246.205]] 20:52, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

http://www.ifcdata.com/mb/pix/hrsecret.jpg

:Almost looks like it says "You are not as good as Matt, People" - [[User:Futuramaooy|Futuramaooy]] 21:36, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I found that too (using Flash Decompiler) and was about to add it, but seeing as it's been addressed here, I'll just ask if anyone else thinks it's worth noting. I, for one, do. --[[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 20:19, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

:WOAH....i just really noticed that.  I think it is worthy of putting in Fun Facts, though I am sure that if you do you will risk lots of people telling you that its not real...I think it is intended, though. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:13, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

:This is in [[Fortune Cookies]] too.  There's also "You are very dead"which happens a split second earlier.  {{User:The Joe/sig}} 21:18, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

== Dubious ==
It's not the first time his eyes narrow. They do in sbemail 74 when The Cheat comes from the other side of the screen. Only for a second though. also in morning routine, but he's kinda squinting from the bottom up...

Yeah, he's squinted from the bottom up like a million times before. This IS the first time his upper eyelid has lowered. - [[User:Miss Free Country USA|princess]]

== "Kertified Klown Kare" a reference to Krusty? ==

This fun fact should be STUFFed.  Use of "K"s as a substitute letter in commercial names is very very common, and was common long before Krusty the Klown.  Think of "Kit Kat", "Kwik Kopy", "Kar Kare", etc. --[[User:208.0.20.2|208.0.20.2]] 16:33, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Then STUFF it. We aren't gonna stop you. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:40, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

:: Well, in this case, it's already STUFFed (now it is, anyway.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:42, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::So much the better, then. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:44, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Wassup! ==

I don't really know what to do with this, but I think it's kind of cool.

While trying to freeze the screen at the exact right time to get the fortune cookies to read "You are not as good as most people," (which is very hard to do), I caught this:

[[Image:wassup_2.png]]

It looks like it says "Was Sup" on the right side, kind of.
I don't know.

--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:55, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

:The word on the second line looks more like the beginning of "stupid" to me. -[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 05:01, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT) __NOTOC__

Yeah, it does kind of look like "Was Stup" more than "Was Sup", but if you say "Was Stup" fast, it kind of sounds like "Wats Up". --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 15:05, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)

:I Think that is stretching it a bit... (pun not intended) --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== Scroll Buttons and the Lappy.... ==

Strong Bad really needs a new email rap. The Scroll buttons and the Lappy have been together for some time now, and this fact warrants no further reiteration. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 18:51, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)

I wholeheartedly second this motion!
Wait a second...
What?
You sure?
Okay.
Sorry. What I ''meant'' to say was "I wholeheartedly second this thing!"
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 15:38, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

== Closed Fun Facts ==

These were on the [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] page and closed. If you wish to contest these, leave a note here, but don't allow it to be confused with any of the original votes.

===Breaking the Lappy (DECLINED)===
Strong Bad indicates that The Cheat has a history of breaking the Lappy. Perhaps The Cheat demonstrated this tendency with the Compy 386 as well. This may explain why the Compy apparently bore a grudge against The Cheat, as demonstrated in [[couch patch]].
*'''Decline.''' First, this is really a stretch. Second, The Cheat didn't break the Lappy&mdash;Strong Bad was making that up. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:03, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second.''' The Cheat doesn't break the Lappy, Strong Bad just blames him for his own problems. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<font color=#8B0000>Aurora the Homestar Coder</font>]]</tt></small> 17:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*I've carefully set aside the time for '''declining''' this fun fact. Strong Bad is obviously using the Cheat as a scapegoat here. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:50, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.'''[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:51, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite, then accept.''' You have a good foundation, but you rambled a little bit. I would just cut it to the fact that SB said "broke the lappy again," intending that the Cheat maay have broken it before.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 18:08, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*There's gotta be a better word for '''Decline''' Strong Bad simply doesn't want to admit he broke it. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]

===X-Pensive Winos (DECLINED)===
The text "X-PENSIVE W..." appearing on Strong Bad's 'light pen' before he shakes it up may be a reference to Rolling Stones guitarist [[Wikipedia:Keith Richards|Keith Richards']] solo band the X-Pensive Winos.

*'''Decline.''' Stretchy "might be" reference.  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*'''Decline.''' The W is for "white". Could be a refence, but could just as easily not be. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' But we all know that the W stands for "witches' brew." <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<font color=#8B0000>Aurora the Homestar Coder</font>]]</tt></small> 17:41, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' Interesting, but it's a bit of a stretch. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 14:51, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:09, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''X-Pensive Decline.''' Since it is white-out, W for White makes the most sense.  And substituting letter sounds for words or word parts is a common practice in product branding... X-tra this, E-Z that, etc. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:38, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Is there any evidence TBC are a fan of, or even aware of, this group?  They seem to be more into the punk/alt rock/retro metal scene. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:13, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wecline.''' The W could stand for lots of things. {{HRFWiki:User:Super_Sam/sig}}07:54, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===Rodeo Hot Dogs (DECLINED)===
"Rodeo Hot dogs" is a reference to the old Oscar Meyer mascot.

*'''Decline.''' It's not "Rodeo Hot Dogs", it's "Rodeo and Tragic Clown Hot Dogs" - meaning the word "rodeo" modifies "clown" not "hot dogs" (in other words, It's a reference to rodeo clowns).  Even so, this is a huge stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' There is no stretch as there is no basis in fact for this...fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Just read the [http://www.kraftfoods.com/om/bn/c_News/news_History1.htm Oscar Meyer company history] looking for a shred of eveidence. I could have missed it, but the article didn't mention a mascot, just the weinermobile. Let's have some evidence before asserting something as a fact! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*'''decline''' I think you mean the twinkie mascot -smooth criminal
*'''Decline on two fronts.'''' I doubt the Oscar MAYER mascot is a reference, and I doubt Twinkie The Kid is either (he's just a yellow sponge cake cowboy). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:01, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*A link would have been nice. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:09, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===Overlapped voice (Declined)===
This is one of the few times Strong Bad has used his ability to overlap his own voice. This ability is first introduced in techno. 

*'''Decline''' Uninteresting, and disqualified due to the phrase "one of the few". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 11:16, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
*'''"DECLINE!"''' For the record, they're FUN facts. --[[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 08:21, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Ughh... my mouth tastes like... a '''declination'''-worthy fun fact. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:08, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Homestar's Shoes, part 2 (Declined)===
They might not be blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet but actual shoes, according to [[New Boots]] anyway.  He also refers to them as shoes in [[Everybody Knows It]], where he says, "So, I guess it's back to putting dog food in my shoes, huh?"

*'''Decline''' Wasn't this bit about Homestar's shoes already tackled and Declined?  Also STUFF'd due to conversational style. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I think it's an interesting comment. Just make it more factual. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|MFCUSA]]

===Shorter E-mail (Declined)===
This email is much shorter than most recent emails, being at least half a minute shy of its predecessor.

*'''Decline''' This is unnecessary, due to the running time being evident at the top of each e-mail page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Half a minute isn't much, and even if it was, who cares? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 15:18, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And I'm the one who said this. -Walking Armless
*'''Modify and Accept''' I think it could have been because they also released the April Fools gag on the same week, so if you add that information it might be kinda interesting... ''<small><tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>⇔Thunderbird⇔</font>]]</tt></small>'' 05:07, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**No its still boring. '''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Unless it's the shortest one to date (and it's not), forget it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Klowning Arkound (Declined)===
The fact that "Kertified Klown Kare" has every word starting with K might be a reference to Krusty the Clown, from The Simpsons, who tends to use that letter a lot and is, obviously, a clown.

*'''Severe Decline!''' Man, that leaves a bad taste in my mouth from reading it. It's just what clowns do! -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:18, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' I'm not saying anything here, but am I the only one who noticed that "Kertified Klown Kare" is basically K.K.K.? --[[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 18:33, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*There was actually a "K.K.K" joke like that on the Simpsons. Still doesn't make this a reference to it. '''Decline'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*"decline" However, on the simpsons there was the Krusty Komedy Klassic.
*'''Decline''' Lots of things use Ks instead of Cs. (Though I do love the K in place of the ''soft'' C here, that's irrelevant to the fact.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' Yes! Lotsa things use K's instead of C's! Krusty Krab anybody? -[[User: Miss Free Country USA| Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Awww... <i>Get fun!</i>''' Because this "fact" sure isn't. Someone put this on the Klown Kare site I made, and I baleeted it. Whimsical misspellings are done worldwide, not just by Krusty. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:11, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Self-Made Man (Declined)===
Homestar saying "I'm a long-pants man, long pants long pants" is a possible reference to [[Bubs]]' [[Character Videos|Character page]] where he says "I'm a self-made man, I am I am".

*'''Decline''' Just watched Bubs' Character Page, and the line he says sounds nothing like what Homestar says in [[long pants]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I gotta '''Accept''' this, because my keen ears detect some sort of similarity. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:35, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' What would be the point in referring to Bubs' video anyway? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It really doesn't seem like a "reference" to me. More like a "coincidence." &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' It does sound similar. It also sound like a reference the Bros Chaps would make. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 11:28, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 18:10, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Reaching. Lower-hanging fruit would be to compare it to HR's own character page where he says "butt dance butt dance", and it still wouldn't be a fun fact for me. [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 18:41, 4 Apr 2005 (CET)
*'''Decline''' Only vaguely similar, not close enough for moi. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' If it IS a reference, its rhythm actually sounds more like something out of Dr. Seuss. - Walking Armless

===2nd Homestar Crying (Declined)===
This is the second time Homestar cried in an email. The first was [[crying]].

*'''Decline''' First times can be interesting. Second times, not so much. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:48, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' And how... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:50, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Unless someone can figure out a way to graph it! --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 28 Mar 2005 
*'''Decline''' And isn't there another "fun" fact below that was about how [[crying]] showcased the second time a character cried? --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''"Second."''' [[User:69.3.234.29|69.3.234.29]]([[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:59, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)) 22:57, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Yes there is, Donny. And I'm gonna say what someone said in their vote for the crying fun fact.  The word "second" is an immediate disqualification for this being a viable item.
*** An immediate disqualification is also in order for those who don't sign their votes. and '''Delete,''' by the way. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:58, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is so uninteresting. The point of funfacts isn't a place to count how many times who does what. You wouldn't see a fun fact saying that "This is the eighth time Strong Bad blames the Cheat for something in an e-mail" (made number up). I'm declining it basically on the grounds that nobody really cares. -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 9:51 AM 2 April 2005
** '''Second.''' He's got you there, guys. - Walking Armless
** '''Second''' That deserves some applause. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:37, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Red Screen (Declined)===
When Homestar finishes going nuts, the screen turns red, like in [[Where the Crap Are We?]].
*'''Decline.''' Big deal. It's not even the same kind of red. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:17, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 11:29, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I actually thought of this when  first saw this e-mail. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 18:06, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Useless and already in transcript. And, BTW, I found a variant of this in Goofs (people need to learn what a "Goof" is!) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Edga Jr., Tompkins, and Ron Cumberdale...long lost triplets? (Declined)===
Edga Jr. bears a striking resemblance to Tompkins and Ron Cumberdale, one of the things the The Three Keepers of Trogdor turn you into if you get one of their questions wrong.

*'''Decline.''' At least in Tompkins' case. I don't think Edga Jr. looks like Tompkins at all. I don't know about Ron Cumberdale...but I doubt it too. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:03, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
* Eh, they all look like generic nerds if anything. '''Decline'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' I saw this one earlier and almost STUFF'd it myself.  People are REALLY stretching to make references here, aren't they? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline.''' Although [[Edgar#Edga Jr.|Edga Jr.]] does looks like a mix between [[Tompkins]] and [[Ron Cumberdale]], this is a stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:18, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Hmm... it's kinda tough to say Cumberdale looks like anyone, seeing as how he's composed of roughly eight pixels. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 15:13, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
Could someone post a picture of the three of them side by side?

Done and done. Now judge for yourself. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:36, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

[[Image:edgajr.png]][[Image:tompkinteen.png]][[Image:roncumberdale.PNG]]

*'''Weak Accept''' Tompkin's face and acne + Ron Cumberdale's hair + Obscure references = Edga Jr. --Yaanu, 9:21 CST, 2 April 2005
* I'm upgrading my vote to '''Strong Decline.''' Edga Jr. has freckles, not pimples, and you can't even really tell from there that Ron Cumberdale has the same hair. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:48, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Declinariffic''' I'm not seeing it. At all. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:53, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Declininated!''' Similar, but not enough to be feasible. - Walking Armless
* '''Decline.''' Edga & Ron ... mmmmmmmaybe. If you squint ... really, really hard. Tompkins? No way! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005

===Clanky? (Declined)===
"Clanky" is a reference to the popular video game [[Wikipedia:Ratchet & Clank|Ratchet & Clank]].

*'''Revise.''' Replace "is" with "could be". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:08, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' [[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 23:00, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' "Clanky" was just said as a mispronunciation of Clancy. It's not like Ratchet and Clank coined the word Clank anyway.
**'''Second''' But sign your vote. And I think that any fun fact that cannot be confirmed (could be, might be, its possible that) should be removed or STUFF'D till it can be confirmed. Maybe then kids wouldn't be so eager to try and make a connection to their favorite game/show/movie what have you. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Decline Second'd, Suggestion Weak Accept'd''' I agree that there are way too many of these types of "possible references" being made, but STUFFing every single one would be REALLY time-consuming and would bloat this page way more than it already is. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Well, I don't mean that every un-confirmed fact should get stuffed. But crap like this one where there is clearly no connection could and should be deleted without any fuss or voting. If they author of the fact cares that much they can stuff the fact themselves and post a defense.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' (the Decline, that is) -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:29, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Strong Bad always pronounces names and places wrong, I'm positive it has nothing to do with that game. --[[User:Minteh|Minteh]] 12:02, 2 Apr 2005 (MST) <!-- Note: This user is 1337 -->
*'''Decline''' And The Cheat is a reference to Cheato the Spellbook in Banjo-Kazooie! And the King of Town is a reference to King Daphnes in The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker! Or not, since there are about -1 pieces of evidence that there's any intentional correlation at all. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''CHILDREN!''' It's a coincidence. Even <i>that's</i> a stretch, as it isn't "Ratchet and Clanky." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:40, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''D"Eek!"line.''' TBC are Nintendo-people, at least that's what they said in a interview, I can't remember which one. Isn't Clanky also the name of that big metal fish in Banjo-Kazooie? That would be more obvious. Still not obvious, but MORE obvious. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:40, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**That doesn't mean they don't play PlayStation. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***That doesn't mean that this is a reference. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Sam I Am (Declined)===
Homestar saying "I have long pants, I wear long pants..." is a reference to Dr Seuss's childeren's book "Green Eggs and Ham"
*''' Severe Decline and Baleted-erson''' No it's not. If the phrase was "I have long pants, Long pants I have" where the subject and the object are reversed, than it would be a refrence. But it is not.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 19:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline''' 1000% no. Where did you get this idea from? The fact that both have verbs in it? Oh! "Am" and "have" are both verbs with the letter "a!" That HAS to be a reference... Come on, guys... This doesn't even belong on STUFF :-( &rarr;[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:49, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 30 Mar 2005
**Tis why I said Balete--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 10:54, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''SECONDED!!'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DECLINE'D!''' Totally unfounded. Go away. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:04, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**And geez, you could have at least spelled "children's" correctly. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:44, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*...learntospell... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:54, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline, Basically''' Yes, the rhythm is the same, but the sentence structure isn't. -Walking Armless
*'''Uh, no.''' I see no resemblance. How does this have resemblance? Sewiously. [[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 15:28, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)

===Homestar Over Correction Fluid (Moved on Page)===
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

*'''Weak Accept, but Move''' Like the above item, this doesn't seem so much as a Goof as a Remark - given that Homestar is acting crazy when this happens, certainly odd things would happen that aren't necessarily Goofs on the toon's creators' part. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:21, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Secone."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 04:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondhand pants.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:07, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Its a sight gag, there isn't meant to be any kind of logic to it (in real life you wouldn't be able to appear on a computer screen just like that). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 20:06, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' I agree with Donnny and at is why I '''Accept.'''  Why is that a reason not to accept?  The standard should be that it be something amusing or interesting which someone might not notice without reading this WIKI.  Why else does this WIKI exsist? [[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''accept''' When Homestar's mad, anything can happen!--[[User:mk5due|mk5dude]] 1 April 2005
*'''Decline''' My guess is that he didn't go inside the Lappy screen, but in front of it.--[[User:Bonk|Bonk]] 17:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Then how did become pixalated? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:53, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Strong Decline.''' Homestar entering the Lappy's screen defies the laws of physics as is. It isn't much of a stretch from there to have him appear overtop of the correction fluid. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline the Declines (AKA accept)''' This is very interesting, and I didn't even notice it until i read this. I don't understand why it was stuffed or why everyone seems to hate it so much. I think it's GOLD! [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 16:57, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' AGAIN, being clever is far from a prerequisite for a fun fact. Although honestly I'm not seeing what's so "GOLD" about it... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:07, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===Bedroom Window (Declined)===
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], but in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere, even though it should be in the shot. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 13:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<b>Revise = Very Yes.</b> Run-on sentences hurt my brain. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:42, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**It wasn't a run-on, but I still <b>Decline</b>. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 11:08, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**It <i>totally</i> was. It should have been broken into two sentences; somewhere between "Presents" and "but". 
**'''Revise, accept''' It is a run-on scentence. Try:
 Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. However, in<br>the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere even though it should be in the shot.
*'''Decline''' He could just be laying at the other end of the bed, thus the room would be flipped. Gah, most of the "goofs" posted aren't even genuine and this is no exception. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This is not fun! Also, a run-on sentence needs to lack a conjunction or semicolon to be a run-on sentence, ***LACK*** an example would be this one I'm typing now. --[[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 18:44, 4 Apr 2005 (CET)
**Totally untrue. Run-on sentences can have conjunctions; haven't you ever seen someone overuse the word "and?" Example: <i>I went to the store and I bought some candy and then I went home and then I watched TV.</i> There are conjunctions there, but it's still run-on. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:34, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***The sentance is fine, it just uses commas in the wrong place. Still doesn't make this a good fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Seems interesting enough... and before the grammar police take over the world, it should be noted that you can't start a sentence with "however". -Dingell
*'''DECLINE, and I have proof.''' [[HR:xmas04.html|Watch the toon.]] When we first see Homestar in bed, we ''can't see the window.'' After he sits up, the camera moves, and ''lo and behold'' there the window is. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Now, are we going to argue about Homestar Runner, or are we going to argue about grammar? ...Grammar!
***The original fact is not a run-on sentence. From ''The American Heritage Dictionary:'' A run-on sentence is "a sentence in which two or more independent clauses are not properly joined by a semicolon or conjunction." (This is backed up by other dictionaries.) The original fact has a conjunction (namely, ''but''), which properly joins the clauses. Therefore, although the sentence may be too wordy for some people, grammatically it's a good sentence.
***Technically, beginning a sentence with ''however'' is not wrong either. But it ''is'' poor style. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Edga Jr. removes text? (Accepted with modifications)===
Strong Bad opens up [[Edgar#Edga Jr.|Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs).  --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen.  Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing.  I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed?  In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it.  It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*<b>Decline</b> That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr, 
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is 
programmed to remove text, 
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===No "la dee la dee la"? (Accepted)===
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not.  It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd.  When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page.  Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak <strike>Neutral</strike> Accept.''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''.  This certainly is a reference.  Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com.  But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to.  At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) <small>You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.</small>
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept.'''  No need to even spend money on a poster to see this.  Go to "www.homestarrunner.com".  What does it say at the very top?  "everybody!  everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.
*'''Accept.''' Since when is "Everybody, everybody!" a common phrase? And nobody should say it's too obvious, because I hadn't seen the intro page in a year or so, and the reference really didn't sink in until the second (or so) time I watched it. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 11:48, 10 June 2005 (EST)

== Those white things sticking out of Homestar's daisy dukes. ==

What are they?

:The pockets. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:22, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, pretty obviouse there pant pockets...

== After further searching ==

In order to add credibility to my claim that it is not a sharpie and actually a paint pen, read the commentary by TBC. In it, they actually pull out what is said to be the pen that Strong Bad used, a medium line paint pen. Check it out. {{unsigned|Mortacai|18:08, 4 October 2005}}
:Yeah, it probably is. Check the commentary on this email, "paint pen" is mentioned numerous times. Thusly, it makes that "Fun Fact" that was taken off irrelevent, because it was about some site that made stuff from a sharpie.{{User:Camalex/sig}} 18:13, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== screen "goof"? ==

The first goof says "Although Strong Bad puts pressure onto the Lappy's screen when trying to rub off the marker and when applying the white out, no ripples pop up on the screen." Is this really a "goof"?  Considering the unrealistic specs on this comp, it could be some made-up old model that uses a screen not dependant on liquid crystal display.  Also, some LCD screens don't ripple when you apply certain amounts of pressure, due to a thin piece of hard plastic. - [[User:Uglinessman|Uglinessman]] 19:02, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
: But if you click on the screen, ripples come up, implying that that's what would happen if you touched it. --[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 14:37, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

== Adam West ==

I know it's a looooooooonnnnnngggg time after this, but I think that Strong Bad's quote of Adam West would have said something about wearing skin-tight pants, I mean just stretchy tights, because it's midnite! Superheros don't really wear pants. THEY WEAR STRETCHY TIGHTS!!! That what I thinx. With a sphinx. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 12:02, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

== Everybody Everybody ==

Yes, I know, it's supposed to be a reference to the Intro.  However, does anybody else notice it doesn't sound ''anything'' like the Intro?  Personally, I think it sounds a lot like a System of a Down song whose title I probably shouldn't mention.  Let's say "Violent Blank-ography".  -- [[User:Dragoon5464|Dragoon5464]] 11:48, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I kinda noticed that too.  Not a sound similarity worth serious noting or anything, but it does.  I would guess that its unintentional, but its good that someone besides me noticed. [[User:Falanalanel|Jorb Is A Four Letters Word]]

== So... Does he wear pants or not? ==

I couldn't think of a better place to start this kinda discussion. If it's already in existence somewhere else, let me know and I'll go there instead. So...
Does Homestar really wear long pants, or just have them blue soles glued to his feet? I think 'tis the latter, since in the "First Time Here" toon his legs do not look any different during the take where he messes up the costume and gets pixellated.-Zero.exe

PS If I have a regular Wiki account, can I use that to sign in here, or do I need a separate one for Wiki and HRWiki?
: It's intentionally meant to be ambiguous. What do you mean by "regular Wiki account"? Wikipedia accounts don't work here, if that's what you mean; we're not affiliated with the Wikipedia. You need a separate HRWiki account. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:09, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
::Which is quick and painless to [[Special:Userlogin|get]]. By the way, about "better place to start this kinda discussion": ''technically'', this page is for discussion about what should go on [[long pants]] or how it should be displayed and so forth, not so much for talking ''about'' the topic of the email. That said, a lot of talk pages ''do'' contain comments about Homestar-Runner characters or actions; there's room for a few comments here and there. An all-out discussion, though--a broad, "what-does-everybody-think-about-this" survey, would be better on the <span class="plainlinks">[http://forum.hrwiki.org/ forum]</span>. And, to actually answer your question: my boring but sincere answer is that it's kind of changed over time, since Homestar is the product of TBC's imagination. I think the "blue soles" suggest that they started out thinking primarily of pants. Later, when people started commenting on how it looked, they made it a kind of joke, just like Strong Bad's boxing-glove-typing and Homestar's [[Lack of Visible Arms]]. Recent events, like this email and [[senior prom]], increasingly suggest that he ''is'' pantsless and in denial about it. (Or else SB and Pom-Pom know he's wearing pants and are just giving him a hard time about it.) &mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:04, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

:::Actually, there is an article to discuss that '''and''' it will benefit it. [[Homestar's Pants]] (or his lack thereof) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 07:20, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

::::Thanks for the tip on that page. And I've now got an official HRWiki account! {looks around}{muted voice} Yay.[[User:Zero.exe|Zero.exe]] 03:50, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

== Glorious Pants ==

The repetitive use of the word "pants" reminds me of a couple of songs that use a word in a repetitive way like that.  The way Homestar says "gleaming pants, glorious pants" reminds me of the song from the musical "Oliver", "Food, Glorious Food":  "Oh Food, wonderful food, marvellous food, glorious food."  But the use of "gleaming" makes it also sound a little like the song "Hair":  "Gimme a head with hair, long beautiful hair, shining, gleaming, streaming, flaxen, waxen."  A bit of a stretch maybe.

:I was reminded of the lyrics from "Hair," too.