Editing Talk:Decemberween Short Shorts

==transcript==

If it is still up for grabs I will do the transcript at 1pm eastern time (1 hour). I've never gotten to do one before. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:53, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

:Could I get Easter Eggs? I don't really care if I don't, however. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 16:54, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

::It's still up for grabs. Put up <nowiki>{{transcriptinprogress}}</nowiki> if you start. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:55, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

:::Ima work on Easter Eggs, so, I'd REALLY appriciate it if no one editied that section. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 16:57, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

::::I couldn't find any Easter eggs, Bluebry... &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:10, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

:::::Yeah...I noticed... {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 17:16, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

::::::Hey, is anyone doing the Cast/place thing? {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 17:17, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

:::::::Hey Invisible Robot Fish, I got started on the transcript before I read the above message (I couldn't figure out why no one had started &mdash; sorry).  It's 1PM EST now, do you want to do the other half? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:06, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

==Adding in this possible goof==

*During old timey short, the rat pile moves and gets lighter after homestar says "the most sanitary time of year"

I am unsure if intentional but the position of camera stays the same --[[User:68.47.9.181|68.47.9.181]] 17:29, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
:It's most likely intentional. Old-Timey cartoons are riddled with characters and props moving, showing primitive video editing. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 19:32, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

==Coach Z's Butt==
Coach Z's butt is abnormally big, but does that mean it should be listed on [[Big Butt]]? That article is strictly talking about mentions of the phrase "big butt". I feel it should be listed somewhere, since it involves both Coach Z and a butt (an apparent fixation of his). I feel we need to merge [[Butt-Patting]] into a new article with more than just patting and grabbing. [[Coach Z's Butt Habit]] or sommat? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:52, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

:I think the abnormal largeness is for comical/visibility reasons, not because Coach Z has an abnormally large butt. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 18:33, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

::I was talking more along the lines of, "Coach Z is shown yet again with something involving butts, I think we should list it somewhere." But where? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 03:03, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

:::Hmm...well, what about Coach Z's page? You know, [[Coach Z]]? Maybe as a section with links to various butt-related articles... {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 03:05, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

:This might be kind of a stretch, but way back on '04 some time, there was a sketchbook picture of Coach Z with the same kind of abnormally large butt. Anybody think this is worth mentioning? [[User:Kahteh|Kahteh]] 19:10, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

== you can't do that on television ==

I pretty sure the Decemberween Short Shorts is suppose to be parodying you can't do that on television. The style and everything is really similar...

:It says it was a Canadian show. Did it air in the US? If not, methinks TBC don't even know what it is. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 23:58, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
::I'm American, and I'm vaguely familiar with the show (it was on Nickelodeon when I was a wery young. TBC are a few years older than me.) That said, I doubt that it's a reference. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:04, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
:::I'll add: 1) I'm a little older than TBC, and I clearly remember the show. 2) TBC have definitely seen the program, I'll bet... this pen! 3) I agree that this isn't likely to be an intentional reference. YCDTOT was a fun show but they didn't invent the style they used. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:07, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
::::TBC have referred to the program [[12:00#Easter Eggs|before]], but I doubt this is a reference for the reasons suggested above. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 00:17, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::On YCDTOT there was this one bit that they had, that they basically stole from Laugh-in (which I am convinced was referenced in Resolutions), where the cast's faces would pop out of lockers one at a time, speaking to another cast member in another locker for short two-person jokes.  This seems to be the basis of the ornaments short.
::::::I disagree...{{User:Bluebry/sig}} 04:12, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::::As do I. See the ends of many Halloween toons for the precedent within TBC's own style. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:14, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Venusy is probly right, the ornament short was suppose to be a parody of the joke wall from laugh in.

I thought it could be a parody of Charlie Brown and Simpsons Christmas specials that were composed of little shorts. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:36, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

== Homestar's Helmet ==

Is it just me, or is that a cricket helmet Homestar was was wearing when he came into the locker room?  Having seen them a few times, that's what it looks like to me.  If it is, then it should be a Real World Reference.  Plus, Coach Z's sports are huge mash-ups anyway, why not add an international sport (as long as its not soccer).

:[http://www.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en&q=cricket%20helmet&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi I totally buy it] &mdash; and that makes a lot more sense than a hardhat with a mouthguard, which is what I thought when I watched it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:49, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

::Though, the hardhat-with-mouthguard is kinda in keeping with the mangled "sports" they all play, with equipment and devices from a variety of sports and non-sports all mixed up together. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:01, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar's Wiggly Dancing ==

I don't recall seeing Homestar do this wiggly dancing before outside of the nobot easter egg in the sbemail "What I Want." Is this an inside reference?

:Methinks not. I think they just needed some strange/stupid/pie?/obscure dance to put in there. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 02:17, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

:Isn't that the butt dance from the sbemail "bottom 10"? [[User:Dramus|Dramus]] 04:29, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

::Doesn't look like it. In all the other instances of Homestar dancing I remember, including in "bottom 10," he picks his feet up and steps rhythmically like he's playing Dance Dance Revolution.
:::I dont see anything the same as the what I want easter egg.--[[User:X66x66|X66x66]] 04:13, 31 December 2006 (UTC) [[Image:Nopa.PNG|thumb|see, different]]
::::The only similarity is the '''fact''' that his legs are wiggling, not how. It can't be a reference. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 04:15, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::Then why is it one currently?--[[User:X66x66|X66x66]] 00:03, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

== Picket Fence ==

In Hoosiers, as I recall the Picket Fence wasn't used to win the championship game.  It was used to win an earlier, regular season game.

== Tube socks and Cosby Show ==

The first time I saw the tube socks as a gift, I thought of the final episode of the Cosby Show in which Theo gets tube socks as a gift from Kenny for his graduation.  Not sure if this could be considered a reference, but I can't think of any other pop-culture references to someone getting tube socks as a gift. I just thought I'd mention it.

:I think it's just making fun of how bad a gift of tube socks are. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 20:45, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

::Its probobly just making fun of how bad a gift socks in general are, they just chose tube socks because it was the first thing they tought of (probobly). [[User:Xifihas|Xifihas]] 21:08, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

== Local gentry ==

"The local gentry" has to be a reference to the song "Love and Marriage."  I don't know who wrote the song, but it is most associated with Frank Sinatra.  It was also used as the theme to "Married With Children."  "Ask the local gentry, and they will say it's elementry."

OK, the song was written by Sammy Cahn and James Van Heusen. I can't quite figure out what a [[Wikipedia:Gentry|gentry]] is, though. Oh, and sign your posts. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 19:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Um, maybe I'm being stupid because "gentry" in your post is linked to a wikipedia article defining it, but I'm gonna go ahead.

Gentry is a general term for the wealthy, especially the wealthy with good manners and graces.  Or snobbery, depending on how you look at it. --[[User:Eowyn 2|Eowyn 2]] 13:43, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

== reused song? ==

Did anyone notice that Homestar's song had the exact same beat and sound to the bass beat in Strong Bad's laserdisc song from [[lady...ing]]? [[User:KKyuubi|KKyuubi]] 21:10, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar's Halloween Costume Question ==

This is yet another instance of Homestar's traditional question "So ____, I like your _____ costume!"

== Strong Sad's Death ==

Could the Strong Sad ornament falling off the tree be a reference to [[Death|Strong Sad's imaginary death]]?
[[User:The Big Eye|The Big Eye]] 20:50, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
:I think so... Let's wait for more feedback, though. [[User:4kai2lyn6|kai lyn]] 20:54, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
::Sounds like it to me. --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:44, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Yep. I agree. {{User:Theyellowdart/sig}}

== Goof... or is it? ==
Uh...when the chalkboard says "Wouds" i think it refers to Homestar's impediment and is NOT A GOOF! <s>{{User:Strong Devon/sig}}</s> {{unsigned|63.230.104.26|00:43, 21 December 2006}}
:You're absolutely right &mdash; I removed it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:27, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
::The goof is about words moving, not about them being spelled wrong. I put it back on.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:35, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
:::So it is &mdash; Good call. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 10:01, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

==Handwriting==

When Strong Bad writes his letter, the words on the paper he's writing on (not the one at the top) are illegible. When Strong Sad does this, they're legible. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 03:52, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

:Strong Sad's handwriting differs from Strong Bad's, and as such will... differ. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:55, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

::It actually appears to be a deviation of [http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/itc/edwardian-script/edwardian-scr-alt/ Edwardian Script], but that's just from [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. I should probably get around to adding that to [[Fonts]]. &mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 13:31, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

==Why'd she do it?==
Why did Old-Timey Marzipan have Rumble Red meet his untimely demise? I'm sure that's not a Decemberween tradition. I'm sure the other Rumble Colors will probbably try and harm Old-Timey Marzipan. But still, WHY'D SHE DO IT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
*Because...I don't know about YOU, but I, personally, find Rumble Red to be ever-so-slightly annoying, and based on The Homestar Runner's reaction to him showing up on Decemberween, I'd say they share my opinion. Translation: He unpopular. --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:40, 22 December 2006
:Doesn't he represent some unliked alien from the Flinstones (as well as the later years of the Soviet Union, when it was getting weak)? If so, the old-timeys are right to hate him. If the Flinstones guy is who I think he is, then he was the jump the shark moment for the serries, and I think it ended shortly after him. It could be that, or just a representation of wesern hatred of communism during those times (although I think we liked them during the depression). In conclusion, I'm probobly overthinking this. He's probobly just suppost to annoy everyone else for shiggles. [[User:Dramus|Dramus]] 04:35, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
::The Flintstones guy was The Great Gazoo, and from what I read, yes, he was a shark-jumper and the series ended shortly after his arrival. (I can see why...Remember when they had Marshmallow Pebbles? Gazoo did the commercial, and he was annoying.) Traditionally in old cartoons, aliens represented communists or whatever, I think you're right about that. There's no such thing as overthinking!! (We better be careful, though, or Red could turn into a TTATOT...) --[[user:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:41, 31 December Barely-2006 (UTC)
:I don't get it either, but it really creeps me out. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 03:28, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

==Cosmic Joy or Gobs of Joy?==

I heard Rumble Red say Gobs of Joy. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 21:49, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
:I just rewatched it and I distinctly hear Cosmic. The hard K sound is very pronounced. -[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 13:28, 23 December 2006
::Yes, it's distinctly "cosmic". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Bare Necessities==

The song Homestar sings reminds me of Bare Necessities from The Jungle Book. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 07:03, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
:Put it in STUFF and see what people think.--[[User:X66x66|X66x66]] 23:23, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
::I don't think it'd have much of a chance. It sounds very different to me.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:26, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
:::I don't know how to STUFF it, and it sounds somewhat similar. Especially the "creepy and depressing all the time" part.
::::Either way, it was already STUFF'd and declined quickly, unanimous "against" votes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== number of deaths in one short? ==

well, besides the teen girl squad, have there ever been any more than one actual death in a toon? -undeforted {{User:Csours/sig}} 02:47, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
: Arguably in [[That a Ghost]]. (They ''look'' dead even if they don't act the part. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:44, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
:: This is probably the first time a character other than TGS was murdered successfully. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 18:09, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
:::And gruesomely. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Yeah, gruesomely. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 18:26, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::Keep in mind old cartoons could get away with stuff like that...And that the characters always come back in those old cartoons, even after getting run over by a steamroller or whatever. *Is reminded of Tom and Jerry* --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:37, 31 December almost-not-2006 (UTC)

==Problems==

If Coach Z collects problems, surely that means he has More Than Two?

:See [[Spin 'n Say]]... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:26, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

== "King of Town Ornament" ==

Am I the only one who thinks it should be "King of Town Stocking"? I mean, that's what it is. Strong Bad's "stuff you fulla coal" remark seemed to tip it off that he was a stocking, what do you think about this? --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 16:16, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
:It's still an ornament... an ornament shaped like a stocking, but ornamental nonetheless... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:24, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

== closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}

=== To bedazzled, or not to bedazzled ===
{{stufffact|The Strong Bad ornament bedazzling the Strong Sad ornament off the tree may be a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Bedazzler|Bedazzler]], which uses cheap, shiny plastic beads much like the Strong Bad ornament.}}
{{stuffverdict|21:40, 19 December 2006 (UTC)|14:58, 15 January 2007 (UTC)|accepted|33|29|Decemberween Short Shorts}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== The Bear NeSTUFFities ===
{{stufffact|The song Homestar sings is of a similar tune to The Bare Necessities from [[Wikipedia: The Jungle Book (1967 film)|The Jungle Book]].}}
{{stuffverdict|05:40, 29 December 2006 (UTC)|01:34, 2 January 2007 (UTC)|unanimously declined|17|0|Decemberween Short Shorts}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== The Hunchback of Decemberween ===
{{stufffact|"That hunchback in school" is likely a reference to ''[[Wikipedia:The Hunchback of Notre Dame|The Hunchback of Notre Dame]]''.}}
{{stuffverdict|19:05, 19 December 2006 (UTC)|00:26, 21 December 2006 (UTC)|unanimously and overwhelmingly declined|17|0|Decemberween Short Shorts}}