Editing Talk:Let us give TANKS!

==Lil Steiny?==
I thought Lil' Steiny was a reference to [[superhero name]]... --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 23:44, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
:No, in an email, it's pronounced, "Stiny." [[User:The Valentine Bros.|The Valentine Bros.]]
::This is actually a double reference to [[Stiny]] and [[Wikipedia:Steinway & Sons|Steinway & Sons]]. It's not a particular reference to "superhero name" because Stiny was yelled at in more than one email (see Stiny's article). &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Though, now that I think about it, the only use of Li'l Stiny came from superhero names. A reword is possible. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::::I assumed it was a ref to [[Thy Dungeonman 3]], where Thy Dungeonman's mug was referred to as "Steiny". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::That's a similar joke, but it derives from a completely different kind of "stein", so it's not really a reference here. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:51, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

==About the "Gun-haver" thing==
Listen...everybody and their dog seems to think that "Gunhaver! You actually Have A GUN!" is a reference about Gunhaver's never really been seen with a gun...uh...HELLO? HIS FREAKIN NAME IS
'''"Gun"-"Haver"'''...DUH! {{User:Strong Devon/sig}}
:But he hasn't ever been SEEN with a gun, which is the irony. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:30, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::You forgot the "duh", BJ. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:00, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:Did you forget to take your I.Q. pills today? [[User:82.44.76.119|82.44.76.119]] 16:20, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

== Fourth Wall? ==

"The Blue Laser Commander's comment about Reinforcements' camera pretends to break the Fourth Wall." While this may be partly true, the joke (to me) was the fact it explained that Gunhaver could see into the Thanksgiving dinner somehow. Many shows have villans/heroes that somehow bring up a location on a screen with no explanation as of how they are seeing it. [[User:76.212.89.130|76.212.89.130]] 04:06, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:I think you're right. In fact, TBC made mention of this joke several times on the DVD commentary for the other Cheat Commandos toons. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:50, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

== Real-world reference? ==

The "make a milkshake from this food" easter-egg is a reference to the "will it blend" video blog, which has shown how to make disgusting milkshakes such as "cochicken" (http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe&video=cochicken) and most recently the "thanksgiving dinner" (http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe&video=thanksgiving).
* Hah, I thought the exact same thing when I was watching it! --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 18:56, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
**blent marbles. yum. that is seriously funny. {{User:Csours/sig}} 22:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

== Lime ==

It says the goof is fixed. I just watched it, and it's not fixed. I updated the wiki, and it got reverted, saying that it is fixed. I just watched it again after that, and it's not fixed. I don't want to edit it again, because it will just get reverted. --[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 17:48, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
: Clear your cache. It was fixed very quickly, if indeed it was ever there at all (I never saw it). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:53, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::I've cleared my cache. It stays the same. Are you sure it's fixed? --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 21:14, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:::It's certainly fixed on my compy. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::It ''is'' fixed. And I put a link to an unfixed version down in the external links. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:23, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::It's not fixed. Someone tell me how it could be fixed when the latest version on the site and HRWiki's mirror version give the same hash. {{User:Blendage/sig}} 10:40, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::It's fixed in both versions. Dot com accidentally mirrored the fixed toon. I'll take the link out until the correct one is mirrored. Dot com, if you haven't got the old version anymore, I've got it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:54, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::[http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/8494/thelimehp3.png This frame] is still there. This is the only version of the toon I've seen, so the goof seemed to still be present. {{User:Blendage/sig}} 11:02, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::So it is... Frame 1703, for those who don't know where to look. After you being so insistent, I finally stepped through it frame by frame instead of just dragging the seekbar, and there it was. Identical to the version I downloaded within about 30 minutes of the first mention of the toon at the wiki. Embarrassing. How did we suddenly not see it anymore? Anyways, sorry guys! ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:31, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Is step-by-step possible with the Greasemonkey script? I had to take pot luck with Pause for the above screenshot. {{User:Blendage/sig}} 12:30, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::The vaguely arrow-looking buttons next to the seek bar ("|<" and ">|") step through frame by frame. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:44, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Is it possible that TBC just changed the Flash file so that it just skips that frame on an ordinary play-through?  Because when watching the toon from beginning to end, I do not see that frame, but when I go frame by frame or rewind to that scene and watch it alone, I ''do'' see that frame. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:31, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::No, I just watched it without touching the seekbar, and it's still there.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 16:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Loafing, I have it on [[:Image:NoGoof.PNG|frame 1703]] in FireFox. In the version on the site, Crackotage's arm is still raised. I also looked at Dot com's yesterday, and Crackotage lowered his arm. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:28, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::PS. And I don't see it when just watching the toon straight either. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:34, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Just cleared my cache and checked again, and the arm ''definitely'' lowers. Crazy thought: Maybe TBC thought that Crackotage's arm ''should'' have lowered and changed the toon to make this the case? {{User:Blendage/sig}} 18:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Jay, of course I had cleared my cache when I went through all those steps last night. And now I've cleared my cache again (and waited for about a minute until the toon was downloaded again), and the goof is still there. It's possible that we use a different version of the seekbar, giving us different frame numbers. Have stepped through it to see if the bug occurs in a different frame in the vincinity of 1703?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:09, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Yes - frame 1704 is of the Blue Laser Commander. I've also checked this in two different browsers (one of which does not have the seek bar.) And, as I said, I tested Dot com's version, where the arm DOES lower. This Goof is fixed. That's all I can see. Look, to get by Blendage's theory, I'll clear MY OWN cache and tell you what happens. UPDATE: Exactly what I expected. Nothing happened. Still fixed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:18, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Teh weird!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:01, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::First of all, it's Tom's file, not mine. All I did was post the link. Second, I loaded both the official H*R version and the mirror on this computer (which hasn't been online since last weekend) and cued them both to frame 1703 in separate tabs. The H*R version has the arm supporting the lime; in the mirror version, the lime is floating. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:14, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::Well, it's now miraculously fixed for me as well. Even though I did clear my cache Xty times before and the bug was still there. Maybe I should get some third-party "cache-ex" or something :-/{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:21, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::I think Flash might maintain its own memory cache... sometimes you have to clear the cache and then restart the browser for stuff to update. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:48, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::::I'm wondering if it could be being cached somewhere upstream of any given user's local machine, like at the ISP; that would explain how computers that had never loaded it could still see an old version. I decompiled the H*R version and the mirror version. Besides being different file sizes with different numbers of shapes, the difference between 1702 and 1703 in the mirror is ''three'' shapes (the mouth, the arm, and the candle flame), but in the H*R version it's just ''two'' (the mouth and the candle flame). I've loaded it in at least three browsers and have gotten the same result every time; I'm therefore re-updating the page to fixed. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:15, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

== X-Men reference ==

blue laser commander calling Gunhaver Charles reminded me of the X Men series, ei, Professor X's name is Charles Xavier, and Magneto calls him that instead of Professor X. But im not sure how to say that succinctly for a fun fact.{{User:Csours/sig}} 22:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:I can sum it up in one word for you: coincidence. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:21, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::um, let me lay it out for you: bad guy calls good guy by his first name. does anyone know of any other good guy named Charles, besides Charles Xavier that would be called by his first name by a bad guy?{{User:Csours/sig}} 22:27, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I get the connection. Maybe a DVD commentary will prove you right someday. But for now, we can't put a fun fact up based on that kind of conjecture. There's just not enough to go on to justify the speculation. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:32, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::::meh. but its MY conjecture. {{User:Csours/sig}} 18:59, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

==Crackotage Goof on IE==

On IE, the scene cuts right as Crackotage moves his arm the second time, so it looks more like a cut before the lime falls. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 21:17, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:What do you mean, on IE? Are yu saying they're delivering different content to IE users than to Firefox or Opera users? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:01, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
::As part of a clearly pointless effort to get to the bottom of this, I found the "lime goof" occurs in both IE and Firefox. I have absolutely no idea what causes some people to get a different frame 1703. It's like a curse!<br />(edit) After seeing the latest version of the page, have we decided that that's what happened? {{User:Blendage/sig}} 00:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

== Green Helmets ==

I believe the word that the person who put the reference in is looking for is "Cannon Fodder".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannon_fodder --[[User:Zonis|Zonis]] 10:16, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

==Reference?== 

In the Easter Egg with Reynold's brother, it has the "Next Gen" Gamepad. Could this be a reference to the Next Generation video game console battle between the PS3,The Nintendo Wii, and the XBOX 360? [[User:Catman87]] 20:21, 25 November 2006
:Yes, that's already mentioned. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

'm srry [[User:Catman87]] 20:30, 25 November 2006

== enlighten me please ==

I have been troubled by the use of the word "kindergoth" in the article since the term isn't used in the toon and I can't find it in wikipedia.  My question is this: how widespread is this term?  I saw something about a character from Southpark but that is it.  If kindergoth is a real term, please provide a link that defines it, or else we need to replace it with a more meaningful term. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:57, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

== Oxy Clean/Oxi ==

Note that the Reynold's Brother package says "Oxy Clean!" I believe this is a reference to Oxi, a brand name for an acne removal cream from around 2000.  I could only find a disambiguation page for it on Wikipedia, but it makes perfect sense, given Reynold's Brother's clear need of some kind of facial cleanser...ick.  (Does this sound like product placement?  I can't help but feel that it does, but the company's out of business, I believe, so it can't really hurt.) --Dragoon5464 (forgot my password again) [[User:4.244.213.23|4.244.213.23]] 08:49, 26 November 2006 (UTC)