Editing HRWiki:Old STUFF

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Shortcut:<br />[[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you. The name you sign must match the name in the edit history of this page. That is, you may not sign your vote with a name other than the account you're using, even if you own both of them.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

=== [[animal]] ===

=== Deep Sea Fangily Fish===
The deep sea fangly fish was featured in the beginning of The Simpsons on December 12th 2004, sorry if I didn't edit this right, I tried my best.

*'''Neutral''' I have to see it to beleive it. Can anyone get any information, maybe a picture or something? 
Note: Also did some minor edits to the fact (Grammar and punctuation). -[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Decline''' - I don't see any connection with The Simpsons, here. The Fangly Fish is similar to the angler fish, an actual fish which also happens to appear in ''Finding Nemo'' and elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Pikmin thing? ====

the red steckled elbermung may be a paradoy of the bulborb from the game Pikmin.

*'''Note:''' I thought this might have merit, given that I've not played ''[[Wikipedia:Pikmin|Pikmin]]'' and it's not impossible, to my knowledge, that it could be a parody. Either way I don't think it deserved to just drop off like it did, and since I didn't want to get involved in an edit war, let's let it at least get Declined/Accepted first. (If it does get accepted, though, it desperately needs a rewrite. Bad grammar ahoy.) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 13:04, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' What?  Pikmin?  Well, maybe other people will see the connection but I sure didn't.--[[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline''' [http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/index.php?function=view_thread&threadid=340253 There's some similarity], but I doubt it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:53, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Finding Nemo ====
Deep-sea fangly fish, looks like the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo.

*'''Decline.''' [http://en.wikipedia.org/Anglerfish Anglerfish] are by no means exclusive to Finding Nemo. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' This is a general comment not a reference citation. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:17, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:55, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise & Accept''' change "the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo" to "an [http://en.wikipedia.org/Anglerfish Anglerfish]" and this could be ok! --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera, who hasn't seen the page yet.]]
*'''accept''' [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] Hmm, I first mentioned this on the [[Deep Sea Fangly Fish]] page.. one thing that differentiates both this and the finding nemo fish from a real anglerfish is the "christmas lights". *shrug*
**Are you sure about that? I saw Finding Nemo and as far as I can remember, the anglerfish in that film was pretty standard. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Delete''' This has been made irrelevant by the inclusion of a similar, but more relevant anglerfish comment on the page [[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
*'''Decline''' Sure, like angler fish never ever existed in anything besides Finding Nemo... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Chased Marlin and Dory?  I don't think that the fangly-fish has anything to do with Finding Nemo.
*'''Decline''' - The angler fish has appeared elsewhere and is not exclusive to ''Nemo''. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Second Wall Breaking ====
This is yet another e-mail when Strong Bad seems to know he's being watched by people in the line "goodbye everybody"

*'''Decline.''' I think that fourth wall breakage should be listed on its own seperate page at this point, as it's been done so much. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
*''Decline.''' I made a new [[Fourth Wall Breaks]] page for this sort of thing. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
*'''Decline''' A lot (if not all) of the emails give me the impression that Strong Bad knows he's being watched. Therefore, this fact isn't interesting to me. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Decline''' It'd be more interesting to detail the instances they don't break the fourth wall. I mean, Strong Bad addresses the audience in the first few e-mails. --[[User:tender branson|tender branson]]
*'''Decline.''' Haven't we had something about the fourth wall in here already? Strong Bad Email in itself breaks the fourth wall. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' The Strong Bad e-mails make no sense if he doesn't realize he's being watched. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad usually says something like "Send me email!" --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:18, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Soolnd ====

The Pardack has one of Strong Sad's legs as one of its arms

*'''Decline.''' Has been noted in transcript, is obvious to anyone watching the email. --[[user:Vannav|Vannav]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:19, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' -- Wow, a lot of seconds.... --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' I think this one's pretty much decided. --[[User:LynkStarr|LynkStarr]]
**Now, I'm sorry I did this to whoever made the funfact but... '''Second'''-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!]]

==== LCD Screen ====
When you click on the screen of the Lappy, it goes all "wavy", like on a normal labtop.

*'''Decline''' Already been noted --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
*'''Decline (but move)''' It's a feature of the Lappy, not directly due to this email. Move it to the Lappy page. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is already at the [[Lappy 486]] page. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:16, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]

==== Ridiculous ====
The statement that Strong Bad says "{The Cheat} uses NO computers!" is incorrect, since the Cheat animated the Fangly fish animation with his [Tangerine Dreams] computer

*'''Decline''' With something like this, I'm sure no one will mind if I just delete it, right? I'm just going to do that from here on in. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
**Absolutely. This kind of "Fun Fact" doesn't really belong in STUFF. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**What is this doing on here? Did somebody, like, not read the transcript before shoving this up? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' for what I hope are extremely obvious reasons. Strong Bad doesn't even SAY "no computers". Forget STUFF, this should have been deleted right off the bat - in fact, it should never have been added. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Whole-hearted second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second^243.''' Anyone who actually listens to the email, and not just look at it because it 'Looks cool..duhh...pictures....'. I also DISTINCTLY heard '''NEW''' not NO. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
***'''Second.''' Person who heard 'no computers' is hard of hearing? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:15, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is a no no. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:21, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*I'm not registered, just a comment... This is the stupidest thing ever. Delete it. It's "new" computers!

==== Christmas Lights ====

The fangly fish having Christmas lights is one of the few H*R references to Christmas.  It is more often referred to as Decemberween.
*'''Accept''' Wow I just realized that. You are correct sir!
**'''Second''' Decemberween is the same as Christmas on H*R.com.  This is made clear because on one of the Decemberween toons, the file name contains 'xmas'. --[[User:fatpie|fatpie]]
***That doesn't mean it's the same as Christmas (which it clearly isn't). It's just that the Decemberween cartoon is always brought out at Christmas. (Okay, except the last one. My point stands.) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Please sign with <nowiki>--~~~</nowiki>; it's really easy. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Decline''' Decemberween isn't really Christmas; they just happen to be similar. Also, referring to "Christmas lights" doesn't seem like a direct reference to Christmas; blue and white "Christmas lights" aren't often called "Hannukah lights." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I suggest:
<pre>Strong Bad's mention of "Christmas lights" is one of the few
references to Christmas on the site, since Christmas is replaced by
[[Decemberween]].</pre>
:...since this is an interesting point, but Decemberween and Christmas aren't the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

**I gotta '''Second''' this one. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Uh, what exactly are you seconding?  [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 19:39, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
****Sorry, forgot an asterisk and was AFK for too long. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:42, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Christmas really isn't usually referenced. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:16, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:22, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Referencing the style of decoration does not necessarily mean referencing the holiday. They have Christmas lights for almost any occasion now, even just white-bulb ones for illumination. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**I've never heard "Christmas lights" used in any context outside actual Christmas decoration --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' We're getting over-sensitive to references now! --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:27, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:LynkStarr|LynkStarr]] 21:10, 6 Dec 2004 (GMT)

==== Subject Line, etc. ====

This is the first email in which we are shown the subject line. Also, this is the first email to have all the functions of a real email program (reply button, forward button, subject display), except for [[weird dream]].

*'''Decline''' Probably just a new feature of the Lappy, so the fact that this is the first email on the Lappy would cover it. Plus, email programs like those used in UNIX (i.e. <tt>mail</tt>) have all of the reply-like functions, but not on screen. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' (but something like this may not hurt on the Lappy page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:23, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====

The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Segmented Eyes ====

"Segmented Eyes" is a line from the "Ren and Stimpy" Muddy Mudskipper song.

*'''Decline.''' Segmented eyes = not at all unique to Ren & Stimpy. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:29, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's the scientific term. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:24, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
***Are you sure about that? I thought the scientific term was [http://en.wikipedia.org/Compound_eye "compound eyes"]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]

==== These Speculations ====

"Check out all these speculations" may be a reference to the various forums on the internet that speculated about Strong Bad's new computer.

*'''Neutral.''' I just wanted to preliminarily STUFF this one, might need a rewrite to make it acceptable, or might not be interesting.  Wanted to run it by others.  --[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]] 23:04, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' (although somewhat reluctantly). I think this is a bit of a stretch. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' This is perfectly reasonable. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
*'''Decline.''' This doesn't look likely to me. Strong Bad, for whatever reason, just seems to say speculations instead of "specifications". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:29, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:25, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== The Price is Right... Again ====

The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre>
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Second''' for '''Rewrite.''' Definitely refers to "the show." TBC often has Strongbad randomly host toons.  See SB's commentary on [[The King of Town DVD]] and his announcing in [[monster truck]].  An example rewrite would be:
**Strong Bad's gameshow-style descriptions of the Lappy and the easter-egg Anglerfish refer to [[The Show]].  --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
***I reiterate: not true. Although this type of description is frequent in gameshows and the setting is taken directly from The Show, the description itself is never seen on the show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Speculations, Again ====

Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." this is a reference to Senor Cardgage's bizarre usage of common words. 

*'''Decline''' Stretch...huge stretch --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 17:00, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:31, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' (somewhat reluctantly) Senor Cardage is supposed to resemble Strong Bad, but I will admit this fact does stretch it a bit. (And, capitalize the "This" in the second sentence.) --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 20:21, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:29, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This is not a reference to anything, it is merely one of Strong Bad's peculiarities. We don't need every word he says out of the ordinary deconstructed in these fun facts. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]] 17:48, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)
*'''Decline.''' Just another Strong Bad malaprop. Cardgage isn't famous for bizarrely using common words - "combolations", "excardon" and "canceltation" are not common words. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Fairly typical Strongbad lingo. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

==== Just me being picky ====

The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====

After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[virus]] ===

==== Bubs' Broken JPEG ====
Surprised no one's written in with this yet: Bub's 'broken JPEG' face has a 'TH' on it, just like the [[Thnikkaman]] sign taped on his shirt in [[monument]].  It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email.

*'''Modify, accept.''' I don't see anything wrong with this one, as long as we remove "Surprised no one's written in with this yet" and "It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email." --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
:*'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:05, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Pre-computer-destruction sound ====
The sound clip that plays when the "It's now safe to turn your computer off" message appears (just before the [[Compy 386]] is destroyed) is the same sound that plays just before [[Strong Bad]]'s [[Tandy 400]] explodes in [[gimmicks]].  Perhaps we'll hear it again when it's time for [[Lappy 486]] to bite the dust?

*'''Accept.''' Quite interesting. --[[User:TuqueeLukee|Tuquee]] 22:20, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' Take out "Perhaps we'll hear it again when it's time for [[Lappy 486]] to bite the dust?" and it'll be good. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:34, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 21:35, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''After first, before third.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]

==== Strong Sad's face ====
[[Strong Sad]]'s face is a reference to current mood icons that are used in blogs such as [http://www.livejournal.com livejournal.com]. He uses these kinds of icons on his [[Strong Sad's Lament]] page.

*'''Decline.''' Isn't this already noted in the transcript? - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 09:53, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I should know this was noted in the transcript because I was the one who wrote it up and put it in there. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:32, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not much of a reference, more like an occurance. Agree that this is noted in the transcript. [[HRWiki:Once_And_Only_Once|Once and Only Once]] issue. Reason: Duplicate information. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]]
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' OAOO. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:16, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice this. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**On the other hand, perhaps you should have. ;) The general rule is if it's in the transcript, it shouldn't be noted again unless there's additional information to note. In this case, there isn't. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 01:12, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Some people may not even know what Strong Sad's journal is. [[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Hobophobic|talk</sup>]]
*'''Decline.''' Blatently obvious. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' Not to be offensive, but any visitor with a brain and at least SOME Homestarrunner.com knowledge would know. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I like this idea, but I'm uncomfortable with the livejournal reference. Even though it's mostly free, there are paid parts, and this isn't an ad site. What about:
<pre>[[Strong Sad]]'s face is made of
[[Wikipedia:emoticons|emoticons]] he
uses in his [[Wikipedia:blog|blog]],
[[Strong Sad's Lament]].</pre>
Most H*R visitors, I think, are familiar with the idea of blogs and emoticons. If not, they can click to read about them on Wikipedia. This seems like a good compromise. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Decline.''' The transcript says it already.  Plus any comments about [[Strong Sad's Lament]] should be restricted to that page. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 21:55, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== One flash file ====
The navigation and the email are combined into one flash file (so that Homestar can grab the words).

*'''Modify and keep.''' This is a depart from the normal for The Brothers Chaps but could use a re-wording.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep.''' I don't really know if it needs modifying, but it definitely should be kept, as TBC have never done it before. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because Homestar grabbing the words makes it pretty clear to anybody whom this would have any meaning that they are a single Flash file. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Dito. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
*'''Modify and accept.''' I think it should be changed to note that this is the ''only'' email in which the menu is part of the same flash file. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's an interesting fun fact. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:martinman|Hoekenheef]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:35, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:05, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:52, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' If another e-mail combines the flash files then the above rewrite would become invalid. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**Well, obviously, as and when that happens, the rewrite will be, um, rewritten. But as of now, there's no problem with it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Quadratic formula ====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
*'''Delete'''.  It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt>

==== Pi ====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

*'''Modify and keep'''.  While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious.  --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''.  A little too obvious.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon."  --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said.  Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Oh, a wise guy, eh? ====
Strong Bad saying "Oh, a wise guy, eh?" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Three Stooges|Three Stooges]], where [[Wikipedia:Curly Howard|Curly]] uses the very same phrase often.

*'''Delete.''' I'm not convinced that no one besides Curly has used this phrase.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I'm sure tons of other people besides Curly and Strong Bad have used this phrase. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' This phrase has indeed been used by many other people/characters besides Curly and Strong Bad, and there's no evidence it was a reference to any in particular. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Delete.''' This one seems kind of vague, though it definitely is a phrase associated with The Three Stooges. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''. I think it's good, it's interesting and not something everybody knows. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' No evidence it's a reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. I don't think it's a reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because the phrase has also been used in many other places other than The Three Stooges and H*R. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Classic Three Stooges line. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
**'''Second.''' Classic Stooges indeed. Kind of obvious for a long time fan like myself, but some people don't watch the classics.  --[[User:Mogul|Mogul]] 11:12, 28 Nov 2004 (EST)
**'''Second''' Three Stooges was the first thing I thought of upon hearing this.  Even though it has been used other places, those places are almost definately referencing the 3 Stooges themselves.  --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:02, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''.  I didn't know this before.  I think it's interesting.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 15:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is interesting enough. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' Perhaps if it were a bit more 'fun.' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:05, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is not a fact.  This is speculation. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:11, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept'''.  TBC have made other [[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=stooges&fulltext=Search|Three Stooges references]]. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 22:21, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs ====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

*'''Delete'''.  Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify but keep'''.  I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part.  It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline'''.  I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --Superdotman

==== Breaking the fourth wall ====
This is one of only a few emails where the characters seem to "break the fourth wall" by recognizing their existence as cartoon characters on a computer screen rather than in a fictional world of their own. Other emails in which they do this are "[[flashback]]" (they extend the size of the display area and Homestar is "behind the black"), "[[for kids]]" where Strong Bad alludes to the idea of children at home watching the emails, "[[the process]]" (the entire email implies that Strong Bad is aware that he is a cartoon being watched by people at home), "[[huttah!]]", where The Cheat actually watches the e-mail on his own computer, and "[[extra plug]]" (the scene at the end with the cast making a fake e-mail give the impression that Strong Bad knows someone's watching, and that they want to see the e-mail finished).

*'''Trim and redirect'''.  This sounds very well put together, but it's a bit much for a fun fact.  It sounds like it could use a page of its own which could then be linked to from a much smaller fun fact.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep''' I'm not entirely sure it should be redirected to a seperate page, but it definitely needs to be cut down, as it's a whole paragraph. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. It's not literally true as stated (I've seen it said that, to the H*R crew, the SB e-mails are more of a live-action deal than cartoons, and I agree.) And it's useless. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite'''.  This needs to be trimmed.  It's a little too much information.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. There's too many 4th wall breakdowns for any to be worth noting. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
*'''Modify, keep''' This is definitely worth noting, but needs to be severely trimmed or maybe noted elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Of course the characters are aware that they have an audience: the entire concept of the SBEmails hinges on this. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Good point DG. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' If they broke the fourth wall in the first sbemail, this instance isn't very special. - [[User:tender branson|tender branson]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Delete''' I've made a [[Fourth Wall Breaks]] page for this sort of thing. Enough people had said that it should be done that I decided to do it. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:26, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''.  Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Compy 386?? (page title) ====
The page title is "Compy 386??" to reflect the fate of the Compy.

*'''Keep'''. I think it's worthy enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. This one's okay. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth mentioning. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because anybody reading the transcript or watching the toon can figure out why the page title is what it is. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''.  Any change in the standard browser window should be noted and kept 08:06 22 Nov 2004 (EST)
**The point is it's not any ''more'' notable than the other page titles. The page title is noted anyway; we don't have to make an additional fun fact about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
*'''Decline'''.  It's obvious and not exactly fun.  [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice the page title was different until I saw this fun fact. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Different headers are noted on the [[Strong Bad Email]] page. If we want to explain this one, the explanation should go there. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' ''Extremely'' obvious. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''DELETED.'''-- [[User:Bonkava!|OK, I'm Kevin]] ''{trimmed - that was just awkward'' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]''}''

==== Homsar's walking sound ====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''.  I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[Bonkava!|
I'm tired of brackets!]]

==== Edgar's anachronism ====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice.  A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
*'''Decline'''.  Incorrect.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy

==== Email number====
The fact that a disaster happened on email 118 is probably a reference to the disaster of the British phone enquiry system that got changed to hundreds of different numbers all beginning with 118.

*'''Decline.''' Highly dubious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' I think it's very unlikely that the Brothers Chaps would even know that fact, let alone put it in. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' Unless one of them says so, that seems way too obscure for them to have been shooting for. -- [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 11:24, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Not faintly plausible. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 17:39, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' What?! --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:39, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This just plain befuddles me. TBC usually don't go for references quite that obscure. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is more likely a coincidence, if anything. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' I find it hard to believe that TBC, being American, would refer to a relatively minor British event. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:49, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[little animal]] ===

==== sdrawkcab ====
The Olde Tyme version people run backwards in the Easter Egg. 

*'''Delete'''. I've looked at it. They are most definitely NOT running backwards with respect to The Sneak. I also don't think they're running backwards with respect to the buildings in the background - it almost seems that the buildings in the background are just changing randomly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:12, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. The person who added this was probably refering to the way The Strong Bad's arms and legs move, but even so, the movement is too stiff to really tell, and is probably just an optical illusion. (run-on much?) --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 00:25, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Oh, come on. Did this person just think they were running backwards because of the way Strong Man was boucing? [[User:Astral Maelstorm|Acorn]] 02:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. They look like they're running backwards to me. Plus, that used to be an old optical illusion. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
*'''Delete'''. I've personally NEVER thought they were running backwards, even for a second. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:01, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*Not a vote, but a comment (but personally I'd vote '''decline'''): we shouldn't use the process for old pages with few fun facts. See [[HRWiki talk:Select The Usable Fun Facts]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 10:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Sorry, but it kept getting deleted and added and deleted and added. I guess I didn't read the introduction closely enough and assumed this was for ALL controversial fun facts.  --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***It's fine, I guess we could use it for that, too, but that's not its main purpose. Though I don't wanna see the "Yeah, no" question being added here... :P - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 19:20, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' It's just a trick of the eye. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:15, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' I believe The buildings in the background are changing randomly. So sometimes they seem to be running backwards and sometimes forwards. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

====Blue Las-Alert and the Superfriends====
The "Blue Las-Alert" may be a reference to the "Trouble Alert" on The Superfriends, which was sometimes compressed into one phrase ("Trouble-Alert" or "Troublealert").

*'''Decline.''' Just a coincidence, maybe less.--[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 20:20, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*No vote - If Superfriends (which I have never seen) combines them like how Blue Las-Alert was combined, why is it "Troublealert" instead of "Troubalert"? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:51, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is true. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:47, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' Seems pretty similar. Votes from more Superfriends viewers would be helpful. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== No Homestar, Pom Pom, etc. ====
This one sorta goes without saying, but this is the only 'toon in the full-length section that does not feature some form of Homestar or (believe it or not) Pom-Pom, and the only one besides [[The King of Town DVD]] that does not feature any of the three Brothers Strong or Marzipan.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' It does bear noting, but conversational style = no. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:50, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline''' So what? &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' I think they should delete the Brother's Strong bit. --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second.''' The absence of the principal characters (including a normal The Cheat) is the important part.  --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' That's not very special. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

===[[Halloween Fairstival]]===

==== Page title ====
The page title is a reference to [[Malloween Commercial]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' How is this a reference?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Accept:''' This probably is a reference to Marshie saying "Boogidy boogidy! I'll scare your dad!" in Malloween Commercial. I don't see why it should be removed. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be a reference to the old song "The Streak" which had that as part of its chorus. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise'''.  It needs to clearly state that it is ''quoting'' Malloween Commercial.  Otherwise, I accept.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
:*'''Second''' - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:55, 27 Nov 2004 (MST)
:*'''Second.''' -[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
:*'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:56, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Modify and Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Dripping towel noise ====
The dripping towel noise is the same as the dripping faucet noise from [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Accept:''' These sort of things are interesting, I guess...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline.''' Not nearly interesting enough. Dripping water always sounds like dripping water. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:57, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:58, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used a lot anyway. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]

==== Locka-room ====
The "locka-room" may be a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]], wherein phrases such as "Unda-Wears" appear.

*'''Decline:''' This may also be a reference to the way Coach Z's speaks, or any number of things.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' It is similar to TGS in a way, but I doubt it's a reference to TGS in particular(or a reference at all). --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Doesn't seem like much of a reference to me. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I wouldn't call it a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' It could also be referring to Strong Bad calling Homestar "undabite" in [[big white face]] and Blue Las-Alert. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|My name is too long]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a manner of speech often used by TBC, and not a reference. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:59, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' - [cubeboy]

==== Blue Star Ointment ====
Blue Star Ointment is a product used for ringworm and jock itch. It's frequently seen on the US version game show [[Wikipedia:The Price is Right|The Price is Right]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' Where does TPIR come in to this?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Modify, Accept.''' Remove the bit about The Price is Right, and you have something worthwhile. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I had no idea what the reference was until I caught this note on the wiki.  TPIR is unneccessary, however. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:25, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:00, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Old man remedies ====
"Grody old man remedies" may also refer to Peasant's Quest, in which the innkeeper has a closet full of "old man rub". Also, there is an "old lady rub" in [[Shopping for Danger]].

*'''Decline:''' This is a stretch.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could be, yet it's kind of shaky. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Three times is becoming a running gag? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:42, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' A rather amusing gag.  --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' - Can't it just be funny without being a reference? -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:01, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' However, there is a worthwhile comparison between old man rub and old lady rub, which could be noted on [[Shopping for Danger]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Breath-holding skill ====
Homestar's breath-holding skill was first seen on the [http://homestarrunner.com/yearbook.html yearbook] characters page.

*'''Decline:''' ehh...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' I don't think that this is entirely relevant. Sure, Homestar did hold his breath on the Yearbook Characters Page, but that isn't really connected to him holding his breath in Fair-stival.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:02, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This is a huge stretch, let's face it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It is too trivial. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Philly Cheat Steak ====
"Philly Cheat-steak" is a reference to the popular sandwich "Philly Cheese Steak".

*'''Decline:''' Most people could figure this pun out for themselves.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
*'''Accept:''' I think that some people wouldn't know, though. It's not entirely self-evident.
*'''Accept.''' I think it's good enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's uber-obvious. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I've never heard of a Philly Cheese Steak. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Modify, accept''' I think it's fine if it's accompanied by a wikipedia reference. I think it's only "uber-obvious" to us fast food eating americans :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]]
**'''Second.''' I'm a Brit, so :) -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:46, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' I didn't know this! -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept:''' I got it, but you'd be surprised how many people (especially international visitors) have never heard of these.  Still a useful fact. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:32, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Good fact. Most British people have no idea. - [[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:03, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Waaaaay too obvious. -[cubeboy]

==== KoT and SBemail ====
When Strong Bad talks to the King of Town he does it in the style of a Strong Bad Email.

*'''Decline:''' Again almost anyone could figure this out-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' You'd have to be completely new to H*R to not get this. And if you're reading the Wiki, chances are you're not new to this. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:41, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I think it's an interesting idea. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' That's the joke. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' I entered this fact,and i think you have a point. It is completely obvious.I think it should be deleted. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
*'''Move.''' This should be inserted into the transcript. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:05, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' I think everybody can agree on that. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' I do.  --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
***'''Second.'''Meh I agree too --[[User:cubeboy|cubeboy]

==== Humminama What? ====
When Bubs says "Humminama-What?",that is a reference to Under Construction, where Stinkoman says something similar.

*'''Decline:''' Similar, but not noteworthy-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:06, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Exactly correct however I think Bubs has said that before.. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]

==== Creeping Death ====
The sign at the auction where we see the Poopsmith and Pom Pom says "CREEPING silent DEATH auction" which could be reference to Metallica's "Creeping Death", which was a reference to one of the Plagues in The Bible.

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I can buy that this is a ref. to Metallica because TBC have other Metallica refs (see [[Carol]]).  Also Creeping Death (caps) and silent auction (lower case) make sence together.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be just a reference to general Halloween spookiness. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' If it were outside the bounds of Halloween, it'd be more likely a Metallica reference. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' - The phrase "creeping death" is neither unique to Metallica nor popularized by them. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== WEAR FLIP FLOPS. ====
In the haunted locka-room, there is a sign in the top-left corner that says, "WEAR FLIP FLOPS." This may be a reference to the in-joke "[[Wear a Bikini!|WEAR A BIKINI!]]" Or it may just be because it's good policy to wear flip flops in public showers.

*'''Decline:''' This is just good policy, not a ref. to wearing another article of clothing.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' I've seen these signs many times in the real world. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== All white stuff on his face ====

Without the green hair and red makeup, Strong Bad looks like the picture of Strong Bad with all white stuff on his face in the museum section of H*R website.
*'''Decline:''' Not relevant. -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second'''.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Irrelevant. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:15, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Makes no sense. Also irrelevant. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:08, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Strong Mad's laugh ====
Strong Mad's laugh is different in this toon than from the last time we heard it in [[helium]].  The latter toon had Strong Mad with a deep laugh, while this one features him with a raspy laugh much closer to his speaking voice.

*'''Decline:''' So, they changed his laugh. -[[User:Your_Fuzzy_God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Yep, Strong Mad's voice has changed. Are we going to start noting every single time Matt starts altering character voices? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' OK. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' It's likely that Matt can't match everything he said earlier without it being somewhat altered. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Abstain/Explanation:''' Since I'm the one who wrote that, it's not fair for me to vote, but I want to at least explain why I thought it to be relevant.  TBC like to point out those sort of things in interviews and on the DVD - new animation approaches, redesigned character, new approaches to the vocal stylings, etc.  These sort of facts show how their skills and thought process involving the site has evolved. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:29, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Good point. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== "I blew it, man... I lose my touch." ====
(After the bit about Homsar as Kumar from "Bottle Rocket")

In addition, his line ("I blew it, man... I lose my touch") is one of Kumar's lines from the film.

*'''Accept.''' I didn't know that. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:37, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Modify and Keep.''' I get it, but only after intensive decoding. This needs to be more readable. Interesting, though. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:09, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:10, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

*'''Decline:''' Seems unlikely that it is intentional, or any more than a fluke of Flash Actionscript.  -[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]]
**'''Second'''. It may be intentional. To bad nobody cares, though. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>''
**'''Second.'''. No one cares. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:38, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''.  Nobody cares and it was most likely just a glitch.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 13:13, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Fifth. Or Second.''' See Mithent's comment. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:11, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Minute/60.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Decline.''' If I am right, it is a simple database mistake. hardly really noting.--[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Decline''' This is not a very "fun" fact, besides, other email menus on the site had the same thing. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:44, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

=== [[Theme Song Video]] ===

==== Drink Me? ====
in the video homestar and pom pom are drinking cold ones strong bads favorite drink of time

*'''Decline.''' Obvious. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' Why is this one even being voted on? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is a good example of a bad fun fact. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 17:17, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not only is it obvious, it has no punctuation, and 'favorite drink of time'? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 14:38, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' Mmmm, fresh time.  Bad fact. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 16:48, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Move.''' This should be sent as an email to Strong Bad so he can critique it. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:40, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
***'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]

=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===

==== The Subliminal Advertisement ====

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

*'''Decline.''' That's the joke. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:42, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' I think this is noted in the transcript. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It's obvious to me, and probably most of the Internet-accessing English-speaking world. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:55, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' If they "are clearly made" as you say they are then there is no need to point it out. --[[User:mikeaitch|mikeaitch]] 14:08, 1 Dec 2004 (EST)
**'''Decline.''' as the rule says "if it is obvious vote on it, if it is THAT obvious, delort it.--[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
***'''Second.''' It's... clearly so, yes, that's the idea. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:41, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*I deleted this. I don't think anyone minds. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*That's not the subliminal advertising! This is: ScoreXZone And Duh, they look like a skull and cross bones! Furthermore... '''DECLINED'''-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!]]

=== [[Main Page 22]] ===

==== The Old Man Fishin' ====

When you see the picture of the Old Man fishin', he is from [[Peasant's Quest]]

*'''Decline.''' Already mentioned in the button description. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Why are we getting so many ones like this? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' ??? O_0--[[User:Bonkava!|Not Kevin (OK, I lied)]]

=== [[anything]] ===

==== Dan VS. Jerome ====

The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

*'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.'''  Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad."  -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Well, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

====Dan Vs. Jerome 2====

Homestar's referring to Dan as Jerome is a reference to Stong Bad's calling emailers by names other than their own. Ex: to quote Upsilon a few lines ago, {We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." } (needs a major rewrite). --Superdotman

==== Soda Physics ====

The idea of the soda never running out is a likely reference to old cartoons, in which physics don't apply.

*'''Delete.''' Mostly speculation, not necessarily a reference to anything. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[personal favorites]] ===

The two real e-mails both pertain to the fall of the [[Tandy 400]] and the introduction of the [[Compy 386]]. It's possible that they are two of Strong Bad's favourites due to how much Strong Bad disliked the Tandy 400 in comparison to the Compy 386, as is evidenced by his indifference while knocking the Tandy off the desk in [[invisibility]] and his interminable crying at the end of [[virus]].

*'''Rewrite.''' --[[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]]
*'''Accept.''' That ''is'' interesting. I'm unsure as to whether it's intentional, but it's definitely worth noting. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]

=== [[radio]] ===

====Plugged in====

Homestar's radio is plugged into the same socket where his cow lamp used to be plugged-in.

*'''Decline''' because we can't see where it's plugged in AT ALL. Or maybe '''rewrite''' to state that it's on the same DESK. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:54, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' - Just not interesting. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:37, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)

===General===

==== Trust ====
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[Search for the Yellow Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him."  This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" Sponge Bob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>''
**'''Decline''' Ditto. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:44, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Ditto^2. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Pft. Un-likely!-- [[User:Bonkava!|Do I have to do this EVERY time I make a comment???]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:09, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Accept.'''
***Note: Anonymous comments on this page aren't accepted. If you want to take part, get a user account and sign your posts. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:37, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== The Brothers Chaps ===
Both of the Brothers are married.
*'''Accept'''. This is valid. I mean...I didn't know that. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]