Editing Talk:Shopping For Danger

==Fun Facts Formatting==

Shouldn't the fun facts be changed to the new sub-categories? --[[User:24.10.244.31|24.10.244.31]] 19:09, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)

==Removal of Fun Facts==
I removed the following "Fun Facts" from the article:
*If you zoom in on Gunhaver's binoculars, you can see the Blue Lazor tank.
*PRiCE STYLE's capitilasation could be a reference to the album SMiLE by Brian Wilson.
**More eerie weirdness: They were both released on the same day.
*The voice of Crackotage is done in the style of [http://www.johnnorrisbrown.com/classic-nick/heathcliff/Image48.jpg Wordsworth] from the 80's cartoon Heathcliff (and the Catallac Cats), whose voice was done by Stanley Jones.  Wordsworth was a rhyming cat that also had headphones on but unlike Crackotage, Wordsworth rollerskated.
**Actually, since Cheat Commandos is a pretty direct parody of the G.I. Joe cartoon, Crackotage is a parody of the G.I. Joe character Roadblock, who also spoke in rhymes.
*The grocery store "muzak" is a different version of the main Cheat Commandos theme. Some cartoons such as Inspector Gadget would also have all the background music as a rehashing of the main theme as well.
*The grocery store "muzak" also sounds like the Nook 'n' Go music from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Crossing Animal Crossing].
*Reynold's voice is similar to that of Brains from the 60's TV series Thunderbirds.
*Reynolds' voice seems to be a mix between Dilbert and Drew Carey, although the scene where Reynolds trys on the backpack might have been inspired by the scene when Louis Tully (Rick Moranis) in Ghostbusters II, puts on the proton pack and wants to be a ghostbuster.
Not only are several conversational, but a few contradict each other.  And others are just downright silly.  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:37, 28 Sep 2004 (MST)

More:
*This is the 1st time we hear what all the popular Cheat Commandos [exept Foxface] sound like.
*Fightgar reports back to Gunhaver by speaking into a wrist device. But when Gunhaver receives the transmission, it has now become video picture of Fightgar.
*Is this the first time we see the back of a Cheat character?
*No. In [[Arcade Game]] we saw the back of The Cheat, and I'm sure it's happened in other places besides.
These aren't all the Cheat Commandos.  Who's to say the wrist device doesn't include a video transmitter?  And Fun Facts should not be questions.  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:58, 28 Sep 2004 (MST)

Couldn't we keep the one about Roadblock? It seems pretty legit to me (though I know very little about GI Joe). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]


this cartoon leads me to think fierbert is ((the cheat))even in the cheat camados.

== Closed STUFF ==

===Blue Laser Babies (DECLINED)===
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.
*'''Decline.''' It's just a joke! People take their kids with them when they go shopping. It's just plain funny to think that BLC has twins and maybe even a Mrs. BLC back home! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Mini-me isn't even a baby, regardless of what Fat Bastard says.  And even so, the smaller version of the evil villain bit didn't even originate in Austin Powers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:16, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''No no no.''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
===Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch (DECLINED) ===
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.
*'''Decline.''' Except that BLC is not the evil sidekick, but the evil commander. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Dr. Decline.''' An eyepatch is a common accessory for villains. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:35, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===Disney "Mickey" Logo (ACCEPTED) ===
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Weak Accept.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline'''  Dunno what to make of this one, really...  It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air.  Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts.  Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this.  It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots.  --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept, Second''' I can agree with Zonath, but the fact is a mite weird. It should sound more like in the shape of Mickey Mouse's head, or something. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 15:57, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)
*<strike>'''Actual Decline.'''</strike> All of this neutral, weak decline, weak accept business... somebody take a stand! <strike>I say decline it: we're just seeing shapes in the clouds.</strike> &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' I'd agree if just ''one'' CC had the marking. But as far I as I tell they ''all'' have it and it's pretty well-formed, too. Still, I won't cry if the Weak Declines outnumber the Weak Accepts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''<nowiki>*</nowiki>sigh*''' Oh, great. Now ''I'm'' undecided, too. What's the real issue here? Is the shape there? Yes. Is it pretty well-formed? Yes. Did TBC put it there intentionally? I say no, but admittedly that's just a gut feeling. And you never know with those guys. So, as a straight "didja' notice?" fact, I'm persuaded to change my vote to '''Accept.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:06, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Definite Accept''' Also, the reason they All have the spot is that the Cheat Commandos are carbon copies of one image(with accessories, facial hair, etc.). Plus, Mickey's head would be in color; The Mickey logo, however, is the solid black tri-circle seen on the CC's. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' I mean, ''I'' think it's interesting... --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:41, 13 Apr 2005
*'''<strike>Kevin 'Cline''' It's just a dot. It may be in that shape, but it's definitely unintentional. I mean, do you ever intentionally draw your dots in the shape of Mickey Mouse heads?</strike> Eh. I'm neutralizing. And gasp at the below comment. (EDIT) Ouch. Just struck out everything. Damn slash. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Weak Decline.''' Google search for Hidden Mickeys if you're interested in the time-honored tradition for Disney artists to hide Mickey heads in everything they can get their hands on. That being said, he Mickey head I see on the Commandos is fairly deformed. The ears are too small and too close together, for instance. Since this probably wouldn't pass muster for a Hidden Mickey, I'm giving a pass on this fact. (and for SP, yes I do draw my dots in the shape of Mickey heads!) <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 00:42, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Revise Slightly.''' "All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking that looks like the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg."  Fun, kind of interesting, and true, even if it wasn't on purpose!--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 22:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I think it is just the shape of the spot. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Acceptinated!''' I see it, and it's still kinda interesting, even if it wasn't intentional. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 07:05, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== Fan-freaking-tastic ===
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Doesn't seem likely for some reason. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This saying was around long before that show ever aired.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline''' Stretch. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}}
*'''Decline.''' I hate that show. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 19:15, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== Speaker sound ===
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Nah. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' No.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline''' It's a general sound effect.
*'''Decline''' Notta. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
*'''Delete''' Nup. [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used all over the place. {{User:Rainer/sig}}
*'''Decline.''' Only if the sound is unusually reused is it interesting. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:44, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:40, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== Price Style (Declined) ===
Price Style is most likely mocking Wal-Mart, with it's 'low, low prices everyday'. 

*'''Decline.''' Many stores have slogans that say low, low prices everyday. Wal-Mart's slogan is actually "Always Low Prices. Always," so you really can't say based on that that Wal-Mart is being mocked. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
**'''Second!'''
**'''Third''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:09, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** Can we get you to sign your votes? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:23, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** sorry, didnt have an account than. Its signed now--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:09, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== Let's Rock and Roll! (Declined) ===
Reynold's slogan "Reynold's commandos, let's rock and roll" is a spoof on the Cheat Commandos' battle cry, "Cheat commandos, rock rock on!"

*'''Decline''' Let me be the first to say this is obvious and unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:04, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 16:24, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:49, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Gee willikers, it must be obvious day on Camp Stupid
*'''Delete.''' This is a little too obvious. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

== The Definition of "Declined" ==
See those fun facts marked "Declined" above? That means they're not to be put back on the article page. I just went through and deleted them from the article after someone had put them back in. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 01:02, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
:Let me eat a little crow. I think I spoke a little too soon. After looking at the History, it seems that the fun facts never got deleted in the first place. I apologize if I offended anybody, but I guess I'm a little cranky tonight. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 01:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

== What the crap!? Not accesible! ==

On the Toons menu, if you scroll over this toon, the whole screen goes white. Anyone else getting this? [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]] 22:25, 15 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Snowing at the Beach ==

There is no mention that "Snowing at the Beach" is a clear reference to a nuclear winter, the theoretical effect of a full scale nuclear war. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:10, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Clear reference?  From my experience, beaches aren't always located in warm areas.  For instance, seasonal changes bring cold weather to places that are warm in other months.  During these colder times, I'm sure snow would not be uncommon, or at the very least not limited to the extreme case of a nuclear winter.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:18, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Hmmmm... you make a very good point!  It will be hard to counter. I should also add he could refer to a weather machine.  Nevertheless... I must point to the transcript.  Gunhaver says ''"use all the savings to make a '''button''' that will make it snow at the beach!"'' (''emphasis added''). So clearly this is not a case of seasonal changes but rather a 'man-made' event.  Further down, when Gunhaver is asked about beach volleyball, he replies: ''"There won't be any more beach volleyball!"''  This sounds apocalyptic, even if the rest of the commandoes don't see it that way and care only about the volleyball.  So the reference may not be as clear, but I still beleive it to be there. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:42, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::I'd just like to say that the fact that he says a "button that will make it snow at the beach!" makes it ''less'' likely this is any kind of reference to nuclear winter. Why would anybody describe the act of starting a nuclear apocalypse as "making a button to make it snow at the beach?" A simple weather control device that ruins people's fun is more in keeping with the style of "cartoonish supervillainy" you'd get from 80s cartoon terrorists than atomic armageddon... [[User:Awkwardconversationalist|Awkwardconversationalist]] 07:46, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Well, Gunhaver is wrong, even if it ''does'' snow. Don't you remember the Visa commercial (starring Misty May and Kerri Walsh) where they were training for Olympic sand volleyball in the off-season on a snow-covered beach? That one's a classic. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:45, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== The Twins != The Crimson Twins? ==

Wuzza? Someone baleeted my "Blue Laser Twins = Cobra's Crimson Twins" real-world reference? It was apparently too long ago to be in the history, so I ask: How come? I mean, they're from Blue Laser, they're from Cobra, the Cobra twins have an eyepatch, the BL twins have two, both sets of twins complete each other's utterances and speak in almost exactly the same tone. The Crimson Twins are on GI Joe, Cheat Commandos is a parody of GI Joe. Short of giving one of the twins a scar, this is as overt as references get.
:I'd suggest providing links to pics/bios of the alleged Crimson Twins to support this claim. I don't remember any crimson twins, but it was a LONG time ago. And no, I was not the one that deleted it. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
::Well, Wikipedia hasn't got all that much[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBRA_Organization]], [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Guard]], but there really isn't all that much to tell. They're twins. They're part of Cobra. They complete each other's sentences. I was wrong about the eyepatch, though. It's only a scar. Nonetheless, they seem to be the obvious connotation when someone mentions twins in the context of Cobra. Why else would TBC work a pair of twins into the script, anyway? The joke would have worked just as well with only one baby, if we assume there's no reference involved.
:::No further comments/objections? I guess I'll go ahead and restore the factoid.
::::Not so fast. There are some holes in your theory. First of all, as you have noted, there are no scars. Second, and more important, Tomax and Xamot were ''mirror'' twins. If the babies referred to them, the eye patches would be on ''different'' eyes. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:27, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Well, obviously it's not a perfect match. By that same token, I don't think Duke ever used a Colt .45, yet no one sees this as grounds for dismissing the connection between Duke and Gunhaver. And the gun is Gunhaver's <i>raison d'etre</i>, not the sort of thing you just gloss over. And Duke wore [b]pants[/b]. The fact remains: "Twins" in the context of Cobra immediately connotates the Crimson Twins, to anyone familiar with the show. And, once again, if the joke is simply that criminal masterminds take their kids shopping, why were there twins, and not just one baby? Twins with the exact same indolent tone of voice, which really does sound awfully similar to Tomax and Xamot's?