Editing Talk:bedtime story

==Adventures of Lolo==

"You'd better have saved the receipt"...what's that supposed to mean?! At least I liked that game...

:Well, Malone intends to return it for a refund. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:48, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

:I just tried to play it. I thought it was lame. But that's me. [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 17:41, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

== Shock-you-mentary? ==

Is "shock-you-mentary" (or, more likely, "shockumentary") a real word? I've heard of "mockumentaries" and "crockumentaries," but I'm not sure about "shockumentaries." If it is, maybe we should add an explanation about it; if it's not, maybe we should note its similarity to the other words I mentioned. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:15, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

:I'm not sure if this will help, but I looked "shockumentary" on Google, from the sites that I got, it seems to be something that scares people (like a book, or a movie...or something). Again, I really don't think this will help, but it might! {{User:Sbemail/sig}} 03:21, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

:Well, technically, mock- and crockumentary aren't real words either, just media derivations from the word documentary. You could have schlockumentaries, jockumentaries, lockumentaries, sockumentaries, and even the occasional deep-fried haddockumentaries. Point being, documentary is the only non-made up word in the whole she-bang-a-bang.     [[User:Gillan The Villain|Gillan The Villain]] 03:23, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

::Yes, that's true, but what I meant was whether it is a ''commonly-used'' word or if Strong Bad made it up. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:31, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

::My bad.  And from my experience, I have heard it used before in the media, but I just have the feeling a maelstrom of "it doesn't deserve to be up there" or "if there's doubt in the post, your addition is toast" will prevent it from becoming a fun fact.  Just my personal opinion, though.  [[User:Gillan The Villain|Gillan The Villain]] 03:37, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Surprisingly, "shockumentary" gets [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=shockumentary 240,000 hits] on google, but the word does not exist in any dictionary. I'd be willing to bet our familiarity is a result of pop culture. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 04:05, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

:Like "mockumentary" and "rockumentary," "shockumentary" is just a [[Wikipedia:Portmanteau|portmanteau]], and a fairly obvious one at that; I'm completely unsurprised that 240,000 web sites have used it; half of their authors probably thought they were being incredibly original and clever. <small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small> 04:17, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

You could also have ''[[Sherlock]]umentary'' ! --[[User:Homfrog|This Old guy]] 12:11, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

I've heard it used pleanty of times. I don't think it's noteworthy. {{User:Camalex/sig}} 16:44, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

== Night ==

Should we mention something about this email being about night-time and that it was released at night. (Or at least here in the western hemisphere)? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 03:19, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
:It worked out nice that way, but knowing TBC's self-acknowledged methods of production, and the "new email soon" button, I'm betting they didn't wrap it up at 8 am and then just delay its release. I'm thinking they did it the same way I write papers. &mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:12, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
::Hey, if I'm right, then I do the same thing! [[User:Penguindude|someone who doesn't want to put his name just follow this link to find out who I am]]
== Gummi Bears ==

I hope I'm not the only person who thinks that Gummi Bears doesn't belong in the Fun Facts.  If you can use the internet, I think you might be able to wrap your heard around the idea of a gummi bear.  Not like Moses Malone, who might not be too well known to those of the internet generation.  But gummi bears?  I'd take it down, but I really don't like doing that, considering somebody took the time to put it up, and I personally get a wee bit off-put when something of mine is taken down.  If it's meant to come down, it will come down.  Such is the will of the Wiki. [[User:Gillan The Villain|Gillan The Villain]] 03:27, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
: I'm neutral, but you'd be surprised what some people don't know. Though I must wonder what sort of cave people don't know about gummi bears... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:31, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
::We also included Oreos in [[Commandos in the Classroom]]'s fun facts, although those are a little more obscure. (My English friend had never heard of them.) Like Jay said, you never know what people don't know. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Oh, well.  I guess I had a little too much faith in humanity, then.  If it stays up, I can deal. [[User:Gillan The Villain|Gillan The Villain]] 03:38, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I concur with Gillan The Villain. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:37, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
They have yet to use spam! -[[User:Penguindude|Penguindude]]

== Have You Driven a Ford Latley? ==
I reverted a real-world reference, but I wanted to move it to the talk page instead of just condemning it to oblivion: let it be noted that "Latley" is a limousine service in Switzerland. &mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:09, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

:Let it be known, that I, Sbemail, brought this fact into notice =)!!! &mdash;{{User:Sbemail/sig}} 05:12, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

== Texas Chainsaw Symphony Orchestra ==
I want to get rid of that Real-World Reference to the chainsaw solo, and assumed it should be fairly easy to prove that the notion of using a chainsaw in a musical setting predates Jackyl's 1992 debut. It wasn't, though. I found plenty of evidence that other groups have used chainsaws (including some amusingly "serious-art" endeavors), but no proof that the idea is older than the 90s. Somebody help me out? &mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:15, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

::Abdi, I have to say that what we'd be searching for here is the most ''well-known'' chainsaw solo, not necessarily the ''first''. That being said, and I being lazy, are we speaking of a guitar solo substituted by the sound of a ripping, gas-driven chainsaw? I vaguely remember that being a facet of the glam/hair metal scene ("Dude! How wicked is that! He was totally playing a freakin' chainsaw, dude! Metal! Metal rules!"), but if the most "well-known" example is Jackyl, then we should probably go with that. &mdash; {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 11:02, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

:::You mean to tell me none of you young'uns ever heard of [[Wikipedia:Wendy O. Williams|Wendy O. Williams]] and the [[Wikipedia:Plasmatics|Plasmatics]]?  She probably invented the heavy metal chainsaw, and certainly did more to popularize its use than one-hit-wonders Jackyl.  --[[User:Cholling|Cholling]] 12:08, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

::::Ain't no young'un, Cholling, and the Plasmatics are one of the best examples of tight music combined with unlistenable singing I've ever come across outside of Death Metal. I didn't know that Wendy used a chainsaw on stage, though, but I'd argue to the average music listener, Wendy is as obscure as Jackyl. I think this all gets back to Abdi's point that we need a better example for the fact. &mdash; {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 12:36, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

== Okay... Who couldn't follow this email? ==

If you ask me, this email was one of the worst. hard-to-get easter eggs, bad story, bad layout, almost no humor, just what I don't want. Who agrees?
:Please engage in such discussions on the HRWiki [[Forum:5636|Forum]]. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 10:48, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
:'''DECLINED!!!!!!!!!'''(said in the same fasion as DELEATED) this made me laugh throught the ENTIRE e-mail (one of the few to do so) I found it easy to find the easter eggs, presentation was perfect, what more do you want?-[[User:68.39.179.135|68.39.179.135]] 19:47, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
::I guess if you had your monitor's brightness turned down the easter eggs at the end could be hard to find.
:::Isn't kind of discussion better for the forum? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 23:07, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

are you kidding? i loved this e-mail! "and in the final stages,the gum makes the appearence, and tastes of choclate pudding.
i almost luaghed my whole lips out when i saw that!-[[User:Timmy!]]

One of my Top 5. Definently [[User:Catman87]]

== Cheat in the Machine ==

Should we maybe mention the fact that the LCD Cheat on the wristwatch is probably a reference to the cover of the [[Wikipedia:The Police|Police]] album ''[[Wikipedia:Ghost in the Machine|Ghost in the Machine]]?''  --[[User:Cholling|Cholling]] 12:13, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

:It definitely bares a similar appearance to the cover of the Police album, but it may also just be a coincidence.  Unless there is something else that connects the reference to the police (or a previous reference to the police), I don't think it's worthy of an official mention. [[User:Veluet|Veluet]]

== Weird Drinks ==
should we also mention a cup of carmels, the "weird drink" that was in [[Cheat_Commandos...O's]]? -- [[User:DJ Teh Cheat|DJ Teh Cheat]]

:There's something to this, I think. Off the top of my head, I can remember the piemonade and the various chocolate desserts (those weren't drinks, but still). Maybe a "Weird Food" running gag page?

::Not a bad idea... maybe? Well I checked it out and there's [[Items#Food.2FDrinks|this page]] which <s>is missing</s> already lists [[Suudsu]]. -- [[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:48, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Suudsu sounds kinda like Kudzu. Noteworthy?

== Contact Buzz? ==

Is it just me, or is this the Brothers' first reference to illicit drugs in H*R? As far as I know, a "contact buzz" or "contact high" only occurs from second-hand marijuana smoke...although, it may just be my one-track mind =P  --[[User:TheSyndicate88|TheSyndicate88]]

:Just you. The first one that comes to mind is from [http://www.robotwisdom.com/ Jorn Barger]'s [http://www.robotwisdom.com/ai/antimath.html Anti-Math] code. And how is your [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22contact+high%22+-marijuana&btnG=Search Google-fu]? Yeah, it's pretty commonly associated with dope, as you [http://www.google.com/search?q=contact+high can see]. But 'only occurs'? Give me a break. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 22:26, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Furthermore, I seem to recall a [[Scroll Button Songs|scroll buttons song]] that said, "And if you're trying to fade me then you must smoke crack!" That would seem also to refer to illicit drugs. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 00:54, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

== The Cheat's knife ==
<gallery>
Image:guy knife.png|<center>The Big Knife</center>
Image:TCsmallknife.png|<center>Teh<!--sic--> Little Knife</center>
Image:bigknife.png|<center>PBTC Big Knife</center>
</gallery>
Is The Cheat's knife the [[Big Knife]]? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:50, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
:Let's compare {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 23:05, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
::I think a better comparison would be to use [[:Image:bigknife.png]], as that's a PBTC Big Knife, and shows two clearly different knives. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::The Cheat's knife really doesn't look like the Big Knife at all. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:10, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Yes, I agree. The one used here is more of an ordinary steak knife, as opposed to the Big Knife. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Definition of Rigamorale ==

I've modified this twice and it's been reverted both times.

This is the original definition:
Rigamarole (a variant of rigmarole) is "a complex and ritualistic procedure."

I felt this didn't completely convey the meaning of Rigamarole and how it pertains to this sbemail.  So I looked up the definition on reference.com, and then reworded the definition:

*[http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=rigamarole Rigamarole] is a complicated and/or petty set of procedures; these procedures may also be ritualistic in fashion.

I also changed the format so it was consistent visually with the definition above it.

Are there any arguments against this change?  Any suggestions or recommendations?

[[User:Veluet|Veluet]]

== Ch8ter Boi ==

*If we went by pronunciation rules, wouldn't The Ch8t be pronounced "The Chait"? (I remember a similar fact appearing in the email where they spray-painted "St8k" on Marzipan.) -[[User:Kiwi|Mistress of Bad Discussion Titles]]
**It's listed as a remark in [[mile]] (for "Dunkin' the Ch8t") as well. -- [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 22:02, 26 October 2005 (UTC)