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There is a reason he is popular.He connects the dots and shows faults of the Bush Admin.


You say he connects the dots, and others say that he fabricates dots for the audience to mistakenly connect for themselves. I say go and have a look at lahimatoa's post again, and especially at the link to Dave Kopel's site, before you make up your mind.

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Also, the employee featured in the film told the Wall Street Journal that the whole thing was staged.


Mind you, staging is quite common in documentaries and news articles. They're usually used to illustrate a scene that would happen in real life, so the director can get a few action shots. But of course, there's a difference between that and staging a scene that purposely gives a false impression.


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I looked at this site.
Also,I have heard Bush speak and Kerry speak.I have heard Mike Moore speak and Bill O'Reilly speak.You are welcome to disagree but don't say i haven't heard both sides.I have.And i made up my mind.


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Okay. But why don't you explain why you think that MM's accessment of the world is a credible one?


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Okay. But why don't you explain why you think that MM's accessment of the world is a credible one?

Because I understand what he says-i agree with the facts and his point of view.I truly approve of him.


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Because I understand what he says-i agree with the facts and his point of view.I truly approve of him.


Um, are you able to articulate your thoughts beyond two or three sentences? It's really hard to understand your points of view on all the issues you have brought up lately.

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Because I understand what he says-i agree with the facts and his point of view.I truly approve of him.


Um, are you able to articulate your thoughts beyond two or three sentences? It's really hard to understand your points of view on all the issues you have brought up lately.

His films are opinion pieces and i agree with his opinion and i have yet to find something i disagree.Also, the Film Michael Moore Hates America shows people unhappy with Moore's success and i think that the arguements they make of why he hates America are absurd amusing and wierd.I like his directing style and his political views.I really started taking an interest in him after BFC which i bought.


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Yes, to answer the question of the poll, MM is good, lahimatoa is bad. Gonna pull another fake NYT front page to show us why he's bad, lahimatoa?


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Yes, to answer the question of the poll, MM is good, lahimatoa is bad. Gonna pull another fake NYT front page to show us why he's bad, lahimatoa?


Just what we needed here, another stupid anti-religion, anti-conservative poster on the forum.

1. My posting that mock version of the NY Times had absolutely nothing to do with Michael Moore.

2. Care to explain why MM is good and lahimatoa is bad? Or are you only capable of 2-sentence posts mocking others?

The spirit of Kittie Rose lives on. :-S

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Just what we needed here, another stupid anti-religion, anti-conservative poster on the forum.


Maybe just shorten that to "another stupid poster on the forum"...I admit that there are people fighting from "my side of the fence" that are dumb and prejudice, but there is only as big a percentage of liberal non-Christian idiots are there is of conservative Fundamentalist idiots. Note that I'm not condoning his attack on you--I'm just saying your response borders on being an attack on all liberals as well.

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Just what we needed here, another stupid anti-religion, anti-conservative poster on the forum.
I'm anti-Conservative. Are you going to call me stupid?

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Sometimes I think we banned the wrong blowhard.

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Lurv, Lahi, cut the crap. We don't need any flames going on here.


*Edit* BTG, try not to stir the flames up higher please too.

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This is ridiculous. Lurve's post sat here for hours while not one of the mods blinked. Then I come respond to it and I have two angry posts and a mod telling me to stop flaming within minutes.

What's going on? There seems to be some pretty big bias going on here.

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This is ridiculous. Lurve's post sat here for hours while not one of the mods blinked. Then I come respond to it and I have two angry posts and a mod telling me to stop flaming within minutes.

What's going on? There seems to be some pretty big bias going on here.
Actually, I just noticed his post when I read yours. Also, my post was adressed to both of you. There is no bias here.

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This is ridiculous. Lurve's post sat here for hours while not one of the mods blinked. Then I come respond to it and I have two angry posts and a mod telling me to stop flaming within minutes.

What's going on? There seems to be some pretty big bias going on here.


Personally? I thought that Lurve's post was SO inane that I decided not to even respond to it. I don't know why you've had stupid people attacking you in the past (Lurve, Rose, and any others I might not know about or am forgetting), and I'm sorry that it's happened to you--it's not right, and no one should be attacked like that. But at the same time, this forum isn't out to get you, man.

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Actually, I just noticed his post when I read yours.


Seems to happen a lot. Do posts bashing lahimatoa attract less attention somehow?

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This is ridiculous. Lurve's post sat here for hours while not one of the mods blinked. Then I come respond to it and I have two angry posts and a mod telling me to stop flaming within minutes.

What's going on? There seems to be some pretty big bias going on here.


Just no personal insults(that may sound wierd coming from me)
but still no insults it lowers the debate.


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Actually, I just noticed his post when I read yours.


Seems to happen a lot. Do posts bashing lahimatoa attract less attention somehow?
No, it means that I didn't even read this thread until just a few minutes ago.


Now everyone, let's all move on here and stop with the fighting. If I see anymore flames, I'll lock this thread.


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I think Michael Moore over steps his boundries sometimes, but they are a means to an end.

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Toastpaint accepted.

I really really really wish someone would address the specific points I've made about Michael Moore.

But all I get are endless posts saying "Michael Moore = teh roxr wooot!" with no substance to them.

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I think Michael Moore over steps his boundries sometimes, but they are a means to an end.


I agree that he oversteps boundaries...but I don't agree that the ends justify the means. I believe in educating the people in actual solid TRUTH--which I have yet to see either political party completely do. Give people the full, objective story, and let them make up their own minds.

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I agree that he oversteps boundaries...but I don't agree that the ends justify the means. I believe in educating the people in actual solid TRUTH--which I have yet to see either political party completely do. Give people the full, objective story, and let them make up their own minds.


I agree completely, PMG. In my perfect world, all media would be dedicated to that goal. But it appears almost impossible to report on something without putting your own spin on it.

EDIT: Obviously I do not view PMG as "stupid".

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Darn and I had a good thread!Grrrrr! X-(


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My post was perfectly sane. I do not understand why I should even accept the opinion of someone who is so easily duped in his never ending quest to be right.

But I want to raise this: why are you all so black and white? On this forum everyone is either "conservative" or "liberal". I resfuse to be classified into either. Being "conservative" means that I have to accept a dizzying array of ridiculous viewpoints that come with that tag, and to accept the label "liberal" I am suddenly anti-religion.

may god have mercy on us all.


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I'm a moderate.

For the love of crap, Toastpaint.

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My post was perfectly sane. I do not understand why I should even accept the opinion of someone who is so easily duped in his never ending quest to be right.


Look, jerk-off, I have evidence to back up my beliefs. I have researched the claims Moore has made and have proof he's a liar.

You have nothing but opinion backed up by NOTHING.

Welcome to the forum, Dr. Brainless.

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Lahi, it's not exactly serving your case to stoop to Dr. Lurve's level. Please do not resort to this type of ad hominem attack again.

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My post was perfectly sane. I do not understand why I should even accept the opinion of someone who is so easily duped in his never ending quest to be right.


Look, jerk-off, I have evidence to back up my beliefs. I have researched the claims Moore has made and have proof he's a liar.

You have nothing but opinion backed up by NOTHING.

Welcome to the forum, Dr. Brainless.


Lahi, I really wish you wouldn't sink to that level, even if you were provoked.
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Yes, to answer the question of the poll, MM is good, lahimatoa is bad. Gonna pull another fake NYT front page to show us why he's bad, lahimatoa?


Lurve, stop it.

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...This thread either needs a massive toast paint or a lock. I recommend the latter, but I have no authority here, so I leave it to the mods digression.

Anyway, I find Michael Moore the reason why some people just don't like the left over here. He lies, plain and simple. There might be the occasional truth or half truth, but most of the time, from what I have heard and seen, he lies.

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Sorry, gentlemen... it's just that it seems the only way I get you mods to do anything when I get attacked is by responding myself.

It's eerie. :)

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That's not true, Lahi. We have been responding to Dr. Lurve's flaming on other threads at the present time. But don't worry. If he doesn't learn to behave himself and play nice, he'll be gone soon.

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