Didymus wrote:
Please do not color your text like this. It hurts my eyes, and I can barely read it.
Right, changed color. Just used to posting in cyan.
Inverse Tiger wrote:
It's either disrespectful or it's not.
People belive that it is disrespectful until they have actually played it. I mean who wouldn't? But its not, it doesn't try to trivialize the shootings. It doesn't incourage shootings. How is it disrespectful?
Inverse Tiger wrote:
I've heard this too, that the trench coat mafia was a different group they weren't affiliated with and the fact that they wore trench coats had nothing to do with any clique or gang. But knowing why they did it (or wanting to know why they did it) wouldn't change whether or not the game is offensive, because their reasons for doing it aren't what people find the most offensive about the whole thing.
Then please tell me what people find most offensive. Maybe im not reading your paragraph right...
Inverse Tiger wrote:
The indecency he's talking about is the very act of playing a game in which you murder innocent people, even if it's not supposed to be entertainment. Just because you're not really killing anyone doesn't mean a game in which you kill innocent people is OK, especially REAL innocent people who actually died. Most people would say it's not a good idea to go that deep into a disturbed mind. We don't need to be making the same decisions they made to understand them and their motives.
Then how are you going to understand them and their motives and make a ton of jabs at the media at the same time? And you cannot find a real person who died or was wounded in the shooting in the game. Only two characters other then Eric and Dylan were named, and they both are allowed to escape because they were friends.
Inverse Tiger wrote:
I was in high school when the Columbine shootings happened (and all those other ones) and I have to say, none of that surprised me. I had that burning rage at the whole school thing and the fake social structure and the pointlessness, but it was directed at the system, the real cause, not the people in it who had little control over it. Kids need to get upset (though not violent) with their elders, who are completely dropping the ball with how we do school, not with their peers, even though that's where the systemic problems are manifesting themselves. Still, knowing that people are prone to irrationality as part of human nature, I'm still surprised shootings like the one in Montreal don't happen more often. It's a really good thing they don't.
People who follow the system are just as guilty as those who created it. Without violence, nothing will ever change, unless the other side crumbles upon itself. The violence of a massacre isn't changing it correctly though. The schools just instated a "zero-tolerance" policy to everything. Same with drugs, bring cough drops to school and you will get expelled. Its crap. (Uh...did a moderator come by or do you guys have a chat filter?)
Didymus wrote:
You nailed it on the head, Tiger.
I have no problem with games like Jedi Knight, Elder Scrolls, and even Doom, when what you're doing is fighting against deadly enemies that are trying to kill you. (In fact, I love yanking Bucket-Heads guns with the Force and watching them run around like idiots).
But a game in which you basically run around and murder innocent people just strikes me as atrocious.
The author of the game claims he did it mainly to help people understand the psychology of those who committed this act of barbarism, but I fail to see where that justifies them. They are terrorists. Period.
And I've read that game's forum, too.
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Who else thinks the columbine shootings were actually justified. These two poor kids were tortured for years upon years. picked on by preppies and jocks, rediculed, rejected. They were in hell on earth. They did what they could to fight back agaisnt an oppressive social structure. I applaud the two for putting the preppies in their place. I do NOT believe that violence is inherently wrong.
Columbine. It was Justified.
THIS is the kind of opinion sponsored on that forum? NO THANK YOU!
First and foremost, most do not sponsor what that drive-by troll said. And about shooting those who cannot defend themselves in a game? I dont believe you would have any qualms if it wasn't based on an actual incident. I think you dont have a beef with the game per se, but with Eric and Dylan for killing those innocent kids.
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