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[edit] Fun Facts Formatting

Shouldn't the fun facts be changed to the new sub-categories? --24.10.244.31 19:09, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)

[edit] Removal of Fun Facts

I removed the following "Fun Facts" from the article:

  • If you zoom in on Gunhaver's binoculars, you can see the Blue Lazor tank.
  • PRiCE STYLE's capitilasation could be a reference to the album SMiLE by Brian Wilson.
    • More eerie weirdness: They were both released on the same day.
  • The voice of Crackotage is done in the style of Wordsworth from the 80's cartoon Heathcliff (and the Catallac Cats), whose voice was done by Stanley Jones. Wordsworth was a rhyming cat that also had headphones on but unlike Crackotage, Wordsworth rollerskated.
    • Actually, since Cheat Commandos is a pretty direct parody of the G.I. Joe cartoon, Crackotage is a parody of the G.I. Joe character Roadblock, who also spoke in rhymes.
  • The grocery store "muzak" is a different version of the main Cheat Commandos theme. Some cartoons such as Inspector Gadget would also have all the background music as a rehashing of the main theme as well.
  • The grocery store "muzak" also sounds like the Nook 'n' Go music from Animal Crossing.
  • Reynold's voice is similar to that of Brains from the 60's TV series Thunderbirds.
  • Reynolds' voice seems to be a mix between Dilbert and Drew Carey, although the scene where Reynolds trys on the backpack might have been inspired by the scene when Louis Tully (Rick Moranis) in Ghostbusters II, puts on the proton pack and wants to be a ghostbuster.

Not only are several conversational, but a few contradict each other. And others are just downright silly. -- Tom 18:37, 28 Sep 2004 (MST)

More:

  • This is the 1st time we hear what all the popular Cheat Commandos [exept Foxface] sound like.
  • Fightgar reports back to Gunhaver by speaking into a wrist device. But when Gunhaver receives the transmission, it has now become video picture of Fightgar.
  • Is this the first time we see the back of a Cheat character?
  • No. In Arcade Game we saw the back of The Cheat, and I'm sure it's happened in other places besides.

These aren't all the Cheat Commandos. Who's to say the wrist device doesn't include a video transmitter? And Fun Facts should not be questions. -- Tom 20:58, 28 Sep 2004 (MST)

Couldn't we keep the one about Roadblock? It seems pretty legit to me (though I know very little about GI Joe). --Upsilon


this cartoon leads me to think fierbert is ((the cheat))even in the cheat camados.

[edit] Closed STUFF

[edit] Blue Laser Babies (DECLINED)

The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.

  • Decline. It's just a joke! People take their kids with them when they go shopping. It's just plain funny to think that BLC has twins and maybe even a Mrs. BLC back home! -- tomstiff 09:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline. Mini-me isn't even a baby, regardless of what Fat Bastard says. And even so, the smaller version of the evil villain bit didn't even originate in Austin Powers. --TheEggman 12:16, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • No no no. Rudeboy87 14:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

[edit] Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch (DECLINED)

The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.

  • Decline. Except that BLC is not the evil sidekick, but the evil commander. -- tomstiff 09:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Dr. Decline. An eyepatch is a common accessory for villains. --Beatfox 00:35, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Disney "Mickey" Logo (ACCEPTED)

All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

  • Weak Accept. I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- tomstiff 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
  • Very Weak Decline Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --Zonath 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Weak Accept, Second I can agree with Zonath, but the fact is a mite weird. It should sound more like in the shape of Mickey Mouse's head, or something. --the spludge 15:57, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)
  • Actual Decline. All of this neutral, weak decline, weak accept business... somebody take a stand! I say decline it: we're just seeing shapes in the clouds.It's dot com 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Comment. I'd agree if just one CC had the marking. But as far I as I tell they all have it and it's pretty well-formed, too. Still, I won't cry if the Weak Declines outnumber the Weak Accepts. -- tomstiff 10:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • *sigh* Oh, great. Now I'm undecided, too. What's the real issue here? Is the shape there? Yes. Is it pretty well-formed? Yes. Did TBC put it there intentionally? I say no, but admittedly that's just a gut feeling. And you never know with those guys. So, as a straight "didja' notice?" fact, I'm persuaded to change my vote to Accept.It's dot com 12:06, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Definite Accept Also, the reason they All have the spot is that the Cheat Commandos are carbon copies of one image(with accessories, facial hair, etc.). Plus, Mickey's head would be in color; The Mickey logo, however, is the solid black tri-circle seen on the CC's. --homestar3.14 12:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Accept. I mean, I think it's interesting... --Kiwi 18:41, 13 Apr 2005
  • Kevin 'Cline It's just a dot. It may be in that shape, but it's definitely unintentional. I mean, do you ever intentionally draw your dots in the shape of Mickey Mouse heads? Eh. I'm neutralizing. And gasp at the below comment. (EDIT) Ouch. Just struck out everything. Damn slash. SP'd
  • Weak Decline. Google search for Hidden Mickeys if you're interested in the time-honored tradition for Disney artists to hide Mickey heads in everything they can get their hands on. That being said, he Mickey head I see on the Commandos is fairly deformed. The ears are too small and too close together, for instance. Since this probably wouldn't pass muster for a Hidden Mickey, I'm giving a pass on this fact. (and for SP, yes I do draw my dots in the shape of Mickey heads!) Aurora the Homestar Coder 00:42, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise Slightly. "All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking that looks like the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg." Fun, kind of interesting, and true, even if it wasn't on purpose!--rsl12 22:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline I think it is just the shape of the spot. --User: Lappy 486
  • Acceptinated! I see it, and it's still kinda interesting, even if it wasn't intentional. Kvb 07:05, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fan-freaking-tastic

'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or Cheat Commandos...O's.

VERDICT: Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to Talk:Shopping for Danger. -- [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

[edit] Speaker sound

The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail theme park.

  • Delete heavy bolter 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Delete Nah. --TheNintenGenius 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline No.-Fuzzy
  • Decline It's a general sound effect.
  • Decline Notta. →FireBird
  • Delete Nup. Asploder
  • Decline — InterruptorJones[[]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. Sounds are re-used all over the place. «Rob»
  • Decline. Only if the sound is unusually reused is it interesting. -- Mithent 12:44, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline [[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077 | Talk]] 14:40, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

VERDICT: declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to Talk:Shopping for Danger. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef (Talk at me)]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

[edit] Price Style (Declined)

Price Style is most likely mocking Wal-Mart, with it's 'low, low prices everyday'.

  • Decline. Many stores have slogans that say low, low prices everyday. Wal-Mart's slogan is actually "Always Low Prices. Always," so you really can't say based on that that Wal-Mart is being mocked. ISlayedTheKerrek
    • Second!
    • Third --flashstorm 17:09, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
      • Can we get you to sign your votes? ISlayedTheKerrek 07:23, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
      • sorry, didnt have an account than. Its signed now--flashstorm 17:09, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

[edit] Let's Rock and Roll! (Declined)

Reynold's slogan "Reynold's commandos, let's rock and roll" is a spoof on the Cheat Commandos' battle cry, "Cheat commandos, rock rock on!"

  • Decline Let me be the first to say this is obvious and unnecessary. --TheEggman 22:04, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
  • Decline Gee willikers, it must be obvious day on Camp Stupid
  • Delete. This is a little too obvious. ISlayedTheKerrek 07:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

[edit] The Definition of "Declined"

See those fun facts marked "Declined" above? That means they're not to be put back on the article page. I just went through and deleted them from the article after someone had put them back in. --oddtodd 01:02, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

Let me eat a little crow. I think I spoke a little too soon. After looking at the History, it seems that the fun facts never got deleted in the first place. I apologize if I offended anybody, but I guess I'm a little cranky tonight. --oddtodd 01:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

[edit] What the crap!? Not accesible!

On the Toons menu, if you scroll over this toon, the whole screen goes white. Anyone else getting this? C.Olimar788 22:25, 15 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Not me. I think somethings just wrong with your monitor or computer or something. — talk Bubsty edits 02:50, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Snowing at the Beach

There is no mention that "Snowing at the Beach" is a clear reference to a nuclear winter, the theoretical effect of a full scale nuclear war. --Stux 01:10, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Clear reference? From my experience, beaches aren't always located in warm areas. For instance, seasonal changes bring cold weather to places that are warm in other months. During these colder times, I'm sure snow would not be uncommon, or at the very least not limited to the extreme case of a nuclear winter. -- Tom 01:18, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Hmmmm... you make a very good point! It will be hard to counter. I should also add he could refer to a weather machine. Nevertheless... I must point to the transcript. Gunhaver says "use all the savings to make a button that will make it snow at the beach!" (emphasis added). So clearly this is not a case of seasonal changes but rather a 'man-made' event. Further down, when Gunhaver is asked about beach volleyball, he replies: "There won't be any more beach volleyball!" This sounds apocalyptic, even if the rest of the commandoes don't see it that way and care only about the volleyball. So the reference may not be as clear, but I still beleive it to be there. --Stux 01:42, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)
I'd just like to say that the fact that he says a "button that will make it snow at the beach!" makes it less likely this is any kind of reference to nuclear winter. Why would anybody describe the act of starting a nuclear apocalypse as "making a button to make it snow at the beach?" A simple weather control device that ruins people's fun is more in keeping with the style of "cartoonish supervillainy" you'd get from 80s cartoon terrorists than atomic armageddon... Awkwardconversationalist 07:46, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
Well, Gunhaver is wrong, even if it does snow. Don't you remember the Visa commercial (starring Misty May and Kerri Walsh) where they were training for Olympic sand volleyball in the off-season on a snow-covered beach? That one's a classic. — It's dot com 01:45, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Twins != The Crimson Twins?

Wuzza? Someone baleeted my "Blue Laser Twins = Cobra's Crimson Twins" real-world reference? It was apparently too long ago to be in the history, so I ask: How come? I mean, they're from Blue Laser, they're from Cobra, the Cobra twins have an eyepatch, the BL twins have two, both sets of twins complete each other's utterances and speak in almost exactly the same tone. The Crimson Twins are on GI Joe, Cheat Commandos is a parody of GI Joe. Short of giving one of the twins a scar, this is as overt as references get.

I'd suggest providing links to pics/bios of the alleged Crimson Twins to support this claim. I don't remember any crimson twins, but it was a LONG time ago. And no, I was not the one that deleted it. --NFITC1
Well, Wikipedia hasn't got all that much[[1]], [[2]], but there really isn't all that much to tell. They're twins. They're part of Cobra. They complete each other's sentences. I was wrong about the eyepatch, though. It's only a scar. Nonetheless, they seem to be the obvious connotation when someone mentions twins in the context of Cobra. Why else would TBC work a pair of twins into the script, anyway? The joke would have worked just as well with only one baby, if we assume there's no reference involved.
No further comments/objections? I guess I'll go ahead and restore the factoid.
Not so fast. There are some holes in your theory. First of all, as you have noted, there are no scars. Second, and more important, Tomax and Xamot were mirror twins. If the babies referred to them, the eye patches would be on different eyes. — It's dot com 03:27, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Well, obviously it's not a perfect match. By that same token, I don't think Duke ever used a Colt .45, yet no one sees this as grounds for dismissing the connection between Duke and Gunhaver. And the gun is Gunhaver's raison d'etre, not the sort of thing you just gloss over. And Duke wore pants. The fact remains: "Twins" in the context of Cobra immediately connotates the Crimson Twins, to anyone familiar with the show. And, once again, if the joke is simply that criminal masterminds take their kids shopping, why were there twins, and not just one baby? Twins with the exact same indolent tone of voice, which really does sound awfully similar to Tomax and Xamot's?
I don't remember mentioning anything about the validity of the Duke/Gunhaver connection. Whether or not it's true is beside the point here. What is the point is that Tomax and Xamot didn't sound anything like these babies. And their uniforms were completely different from normal Cobra uniforms. I admit that to say "twins" and "Cobra" in the same sentence reminds me of them, but to label this a reference is a stretch. — It's dot com 06:08, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Well, that's the scope of my argument, at any rate. Still seems more valid than many of the connections that make it past the STUFF phase.


[edit] what the....

I kind of dunno how I got this

I somehow came across this pic when using a seek bar on the toon. Should I put it on the article? x66x66 9:32pm 8/23/06

If you need something special to see it (i.e. using the seek bar), then there's no reason to put it on the article page. You can do all kinds of crazy things that produce weird results. But they are neither goofs nor glitches.  Loafing 01:59, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
I dunno if that's worth a mention (see Loafing's comment) but you could make a Build Your Own The Cheat game with this. xP

[edit] You betta break yourself

Would it be worth mentioning that the phrase "you better break yourself" was in the song Soldier by 50 cent? I thought I have heard it somewhere else before too, It must be a quote from somewhere. -Kyleinjapan

"You'd better break yourself" appears as an Ice Cube lyric. Those two are the only results Google seems to return. Hmm. --DorianGray

[edit] Oh my Lan

I am quite sure he says, "Oh my Lan", not oh my land. Lan makes sense because lan is a inter-network, and he is a major office person/IT guy. I think I am gonna go change it. — 24.18.240.159 (Talk | contribs) 03:32, 5 March 2007 (left unsigned)

I hear a faint d. And I don't see how "Oh, my LAN" would make more or even as much sense as "Oh, my land". Loafing 00:38, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Maybe it comes from living in an accent where people regularly drop the final consonants off words, but I too can hear the "D". "Oh my land" is a real phrase... not exactly common, but real... Google finds nearly 200,000 pages with it on them (granted, most don't use it in the same manner)... it's one of those expletives where you almost say something naughty, notice, and change it around at the end, like "sugar". "Oh my LAN" makes no sense whatsoever, even if Reynold is an IT guy. --phlip TC 00:54, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps it's a play on that exclamation "Lan' sakes!", (but this is just a visual dialect of "Land sakes!" anyway). Personally, I hear the "D", but it is faint. kai lyn 01:00, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reinforcements

The possessive of "Reinforcements" would be Reinforcements's (as his name isn't plural, it just happens to have an "s" at the end).

[edit] Blue-Lase-Alert

I don't know if anyone has noticed this, but the Blue-Lase-Alert sounds like Strong Sad making a "siren-like" sound.

Uh...that's probably 'cause its Matt doing the sound effect. He mentions it on this toon's commentary, too. I think. Some of the effects are bound to sound like another character doing them. A person can only utter so many different vocal styles... DevonM(talkยทcont-ribs) 07:10, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Remark, Goof, Both, Neither?

When Blue Laser Commander is looking around for his buggy, the rolls of paper towels teleport between his hands (i.e., which of the two arms has two rolls changes from right arm to left arm and back). The reason I'm not sure where to put this is that, as a parody of cheap cartoons, this effect may be intentional (much like his roaming eyepatch). Worth mentioning? TJDevil02 04:25, 20 June 2009 (UTC)


[edit] Another Fast-Forward

When one of the commandos (I forgot which one) goes "gulp" it's exactly the same as when Homestar does that in A Death Defying Decemberween.

[edit] Reference to Hook

Well, I think it might be worth mentioning on the page that:

CRACKOTAGE: {rhyming} You can't shoot, and you can't fly. If you came with us, you'd probably die!

is a reference to "Hook" (the Robin Williams Peter Pan movie). Actually, is that a direct reference to Hook? Or did that movie actually steal their version of the line from someone else?

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