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I don't... --<span style="color: #adff2f">[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]]</span> 17:28, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
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: Hmmm... it always happens on your edits - just look at the above! Maybe your computer is doing it automatically? --[[User:Jay|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''Jay''</span>]] [[User talk:Jay|<span style = "color: #006030"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]] 18:35, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

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Welcome to Homestarrunner.net, Its Dot Commmmmm...

No, realy, Welcome to the H*R Wiki. Hope you like it here, and stick around.

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-ΩLucas

Regarding spoilers

This Wiki is an information site that does not concern itself with spoilers. I mean, we give the entire transcript of every Homestar cartoon to date, bar none. Thus, nobody cares if the Witches' Brew page says that "Homestar" was really Strong Bad during most of Pumpkin Carve-nival. If you're trying to avoid spoilers, watch the 'toons BEFORE visiting the Wiki. --Jay 22:01, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)

I just think it's unfair for someone who has not seen 100% of Homestarrunner.com.--Trogga 07:30, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

No more unfair than putting every last word of every 'toon in transcripts... --Jay 21:57, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

Can we at least have a warning template for these kind of spoilers? --Trogga 13:32, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)

Nope. As Jay noted, the whole Wiki is pretty much one big spoiler. In fact we say on our about page, "Welcome to the best place to learn everything about the cartoons (and just about anything else) on HomestarRunner.com." -- Tom 19:48, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)

Yet I don't see anything saying, "This Wiki may contain spoilers". What wrong my idea [for the template]? --Trogga 12:49, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)

Can someone reply?? I've been waiting for one for 3 weeks. --Trogga 10:49, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)

This discussion may be 2 months, but like it or not, I'm going to make a spoiler template. We may have transcripts for all the toons, but what if someone who hasn't seen Pumpkin Carve-nival or its transcript, just saw the Witches' Brew page? Got a problem with that? Good; that's what these talk pages are for. --Trogga 17:50, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

I wouldn't if I were you. Tom said no. It's final. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

Geezz, I was just trying to help out. Did even read my last comment? If nobody likes my ideas then Good bye. --Trogga 13:55, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

After thinking about it for a while, I've come back, I apologise for being so stubborn. If you don't want to use a spoiler template, that's fine with me, I just wanted to help newbies. I'm also sorry for deleting link and facts for no good reason. --Trogga 22:14, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Deleting Links

  • I was just wondering, why are you deleting Wikipedia links like the ones to Elton John and Nickelodeon? I don't see a problem with them. Aurora Szalinski 20:59, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Not everything needs a reference. For example, everybody knows who the Beatles are. --Trogga 21:37, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • (blushes) I don't... --flashstorm 21:42, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • There are two arguments against that: 1) You don't necessarily know what "everybody" knows. People from around the world could read this site. 2) The link is useful if someone wants more information about something. Even if someone knows who the Beatles are, they might be interested in reading the article. Aurora Szalinski 21:45, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • They could just Google it, but good point. --Trogga 21:50, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • True, they could just Google it. I don't think some of the links are *necessary*, I just don't think they're bad... Aurora Szalinski 22:00, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)


Deleting cast information in main pages

Just because they don't appear in strict order is not a very good reason to get rid of the cast lists from main pages. The cast still appears in them and the main pages appear in filmographies, so the main pages should have cast lists. Could you please not delete them? Aurora Szalinski 17:48, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

We could just link the characters in the button descriptions. --Trogga 17:32, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)


We could, but a cast list is neater, and conforms to the standard of all the other pages on the site. Aurora Szalinski 17:49, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

12:00

Why did you remove the "You Can't Do That On Television!" fun fact from 12:00? You gave no explanation of why you did this. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

The YCDTOT reference is already noted in the Easter Eggs category. --Trogga 10:20, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

  • It's listed, but no information about the show is given in Easter eggs... Aurora Szalinski 10:34, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

Well, link 'em up Dan! --Trogga 10:35, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

colonization

Why are you so dead-set on colonization NOT being a Thanksgiving 'toon? Let's look at the facts:

  1. The emailer asked if Strong Bad celebrated Thanksgiving.
  2. In late November.
  3. Strong Bad revealed his own colonization story, which was a parody of the Thanksgiving story in just about every conceivable way.

Do you need a big stamp over the email saying "THIS IS A THANKSGIVING TOON"? --Jay 23:53, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Well, the day when Strongbadia was first colonized isn't Thanksgiving. We may as well call Decemberween Christmas. --Trogga 09:53, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

And let's not get too focused on America here, Jay. In Canada, Thanksgiving is in mid-october... Let's remember that the internet is international.

Er, I'm pretty sure everyone realizes that we're referring to American Thanksgiving - because of the word "November". And the fact that H*R is an American toon. And the fact that the emailer was American. --Jay 02:09, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'm Wikipedia:Canadian, and I'm not offended. I know it's an Wikipedia:American Wikipedia:Website. (Oh, and I'm all for linking to the Wiki) ?Thunderbird? 02:04, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I'll bite. What's wrong with the birthday section on the Holiday Toons page? Aurora the Homestar Coder 19:43, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Way too general. --Trogga 19:45, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Huh? What does that even mean? They're birthdays. They're holidays. Aurora the Homestar Coder 19:45, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

"general" as in: "they are too minor". --Trogga 19:53, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Okay, but I still like the birthday section. Anyone else want to weigh in? Aurora the Homestar Coder 19:55, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
I like it too. Of course they're minor. That's the whole point of the Wiki, it's to bring to light nuances that AREN'T obvious to everybody concerned. We can't just start ignoring minorities. Especially in this instance, with a finite number of refferances. There's no middle ground here, either a birthday is meantioned or it isn't. In this case they were. Several. Not sure just what applicable toon to direct your friend to watch on a certain day? No problem, look here. That's what we're here for. The preceding was just one example of the uses of a complete list of birthday refferances. ?Thunderbird? 02:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

OK, keep the Birthdays, but catergories for holidays with one toon or holidays that are only mentioned are ridiculous. While I too want the holidays in a timeline, but I like to keep things less bloated. --Trogga 20:53, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

I understand, and do agree with you on that. Especially the Characters page, now there's one that could do with a total overhaul. But since the information is going to be SOMEWHERE on the Holidays page, it doesn't really make it all that 'bloated' to give them their own section. Plus, chances are most of them will get more occurances later on. ?Thunderbird? 20:24, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Please stop removing Wikipedia links!

I don't know what you have against Wikipedia links, but they are useful and fun, and don't hurt anybody by being there. Some of the links you think are silly are absolutely not silly, like the ones you reverted on Experimental Film -- no, not everybody in the world knows what an Atari is or who Comic Book Guy is. In fact, many people don't! They could just Google it, but Wikipedia exists for a reason. Aurora the Homestar Coder 12:27, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)

"Wikipedia exists for a reason"?! You mean, Wikipedia's sole purpose is to be linked on other wikis? Now, I have nothing against Wikipedia links, but I just think it's a bit crazy to link things like the Simpsons and the Grim Reaper. --Trogga 21:54, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Amazingly enough, not everybody knows what those things are, and even if they do, they might find it fun to read the article. Why do you think the links should be deleted? Do you just not like the color blue? (Oh, and Wikipedia articles DO exist to be linked to from other Wikipedia articles. Seriously.)Aurora the Homestar Coder 22:05, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Green is better. icon_mrgreen.gif --Trogga 01:12, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Trogga, Interwiki links are vital and add tremendously to the look, feel and pleasure of a wiki. Please reconsider your policy to remove these links ad hoc. Don't get me wrong, linking every single word in a sentence is ridiculous, but any media reference, or concept that extends past the mandate of the HRWiki deserves a nice informative link. Rock, rock onward. - Dr Haggis - Talk 02:27, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I just happens to think Interwiki links are best used for obscure things, not stuff people can find out about themselves. This endless linking seems just for more traffic for Wikipedia. --Trogga the linkator™ 21:23, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Not only do I agree with what others had been saying, I'd also like it if you kept game/TV Show/Movie names italicized, please; it's proper grammar. I know it was you who removed it from The Li'l Brudder Show... --Shadow Hog 20:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

If it's "proper grammar", then how come don't italicize the H*R toons?? --Trogga 14:05, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Not sure. We probably should, but I'm not gonna do it until the majority thinks it's a good idea. Regardless, it's been accepted internationally as proper grammar to italicize everything else, so... --Shadow Hog 15:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I've tried to encourage folks to put toon names in double quotes (and for the most part, people do) but italics may indeed be more appropriate. If you'd like to see things change, feel free to start doing it. No one is stopping you, and many people might jump on the bandwagon and help you. Best way to see if it's something the community wants to see happen would be to start a comment on the projects talk page. — wikisig.gif Joey (talk·edits) 20:40, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
Trogga, I have to echo Drhaggis' well-worded comment above: Interwiki links are vital to what we are doing here. You've been asked to stop removing them by several members of our community. If you don't stop, I won't hesitate to ban you. I know that's harsh, but those kinds of edits are border-line trolling. — wikisig.gif Joey (talk·edits) 21:11, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Geez, while I don't see anything wrong with links, don't I see anything wrong removing them. No offense, but you guys need chill out and stop getting mad over someone who's just removing links for stuff two-jillion% of world knows about. But I'll stop if it bothers you that much. --Trogga 21:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Big Ol' Tree

What's wrong with meantioning the 'Big Ol' Tree' on The Stick Page? ?Thunderbird? 20:28, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

On the same line, stop removing stuff from this page. It has all the need to be there. →FireBird

I'll say again: Let's let The Stick's Appearances do its job. --Trogga 20:47, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

I'll say again: stop. If it happened to The Stick, and it's not quite regular, then it should go there. This gives more info on The Stick without having to go through all the appearances to find out more about it. →FireBird

But why can't someone just look in the appearances to find out more about The Stick? --Trogga 20:54, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

All the irregular stuff that's happened to The Stick should go on The Stick article. If you were looking for info on The Stick, would you rather look through all those toons and emails, or read most of the stuff that's happened to the The Stick on one page? "The Stick" should contain facts about The Stick. If we took all that away, it wouldn't. →FireBird

(Edit Conflicted: My reply)

Then there really is no point for the Wiki under that reasoning, why not just sift through the official site instead? The whole point of the page is to tell the reader things they don't already know. Otherwise, all you're left with is 'The Stick is a place. With a stick in it'. ?Thunderbird? 21:01, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Triple the characters, half the readability

Is there some particular reason you keep changing "1⁄2" to "1/2" - worse, without putting a space before it, so "221⁄2" in garage sale comes out looking like 110.5? --Jay (Talk) 03:01, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

I don't... --TROGGA! 17:28, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

Hmmm... it always happens on your edits - just look at the above! Maybe your computer is doing it automatically? --Jay (Talk) 18:35, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
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