User talk:JoeyDay

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Revision as of 02:24, 17 May 2005

Welcome to Joey's talk page. This is not the general help desk of the Wiki. If you need help, go to the FAQ page or visit the forum and use the help desk there. Don't be suprised if I'm not the first one to answer your question. There are many knowledgable people who spend more time here than I do. They are usually quick to help others, and they know what they're talking about, so you can usually trust their answers. If you absolutely need an answer from me, or if you have comments, feel free to leave them below.

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Fun Fact Confirmation Committee (FFCC)

There are soo many incorrect fun facts out there that I think we need a committee divoted to removing said facts. Just by looking arround the random pages makes me want to hurl a brick through my screen. And, once these facts are removed someone just resertes them. Not only that, but people are removing fun facts that are perfectly acceptible. Its annoying! Even the Stuff page doesnt work well. Thus, I propose this committie to have power over what facts stay and what goes. They are given a protocol, and if a fact passes the protocol than committie confirms the fun fact (perhaps by typing confirmed and signing) and removing/stuffing fun fact (maybe put "rejected/stuffed by FFCC" in the comment section) so that way some one has a final word on these fun facts. What does everyone think? -- _{Posted by:} -erson ^Talk 18:16, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Well, first off I think you should sign your talk page posts. Second, don't you think this question would be more appropriately asked on the STUFF talk page? If you really want this to happen, Firebird, you need to rally community support. I can't and won't make any executive decisions about things like this. That said, I don't have a problem with a fun fact committee. In fact, I like the committee scheme because it helps people feel useful and needed in our community.

I have my own ideas about fixing fun facts, though, and I'm not sure a committee's going to do it. I've been a quiet advocate of STUFFing the STUFF page and moving fun fact discussions to the talk page for the appropriate articles. On the real crazy toons and emails, perhaps we could have a boilerplate that says something like "Please check the discussion page before adding or removing any fun facts." That's my two cents, and two cents is about all it's worth around here. — Joey (talk·edits) 17:05, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Just popping in to say that Firebird did not write this, it was -erson. Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:13, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I did sign it, but it was removed... Or maybe I didn't? Oh I cant rmeember. Neway, its signed now. So sorry.-- _{Posted by:} -erson ^Talk 18:16, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Account Removal

Can I politely ask you to delete my H*RWiki Forum Account? (it's "BurninatorBoombox") I don't want to have two, and I really need to get more involved in the Wiki business. Thanks, MK and/or BurnBox 03:41, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

New Main Page Mockup

Wow. It's like... A mini-wikipedia! Well I sort of like it, but I do like having all the catergories right at a click, including the Wiki stuff, Inside Jokes, ect. Also Quote of the Week, Sketchbook, and Weekly fanstuff are kinda left out. I don't know, to tell you the truth. I do like the featured article idea, but how exactly would that work? Would we have to add the first paragraph or two by hand, or would it be automatic somehow? I like the H*R updates easily there, and a few fun facts would be kinda... well.. fun. Yea, I like it. My main concern is that we're loosing a bunch of the main page shortcuts to pages. Overall though, I think a change would be a good thing to look forward to. ?Thunderbird? 02:34, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm certainly not stubborn about the way the categories were done. Drhaggis has some better category schemes on his userpage. I'm certainly open to additional suggestions. — Joey (talk·edits) 22:53, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Btw, what's with the article? Is it just jibberish, or is it a different language? And if so, why? Also, is there a future plan to replace current main page with said mockup? If so, at what time? Thanks. ?Thunderbird? 03:20, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Lorem ipsum. -- Tom 03:34, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Yes, or as I prefer to call it, Lipsum. — Joey (talk·edits) 02:53, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

CSS3 fix

Hi there. I think a[href = "http://www.homestarrunner.com"] {color:green !important;} should fix things for you. For some reason a:visited {color: #5a3696;} takes precedence if the former doesn't have the !important. -- Tom 03:31, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Wow, I just barely thought of that before I read your post. Great minds think alike. Thanks, Tom. — Joey (talk·edits) 04:00, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Holy moly, that png is a cool idea. Good work! -- Tom 14:58, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, it's kinda fun. The one thing I'm dissappointed about is it only works in Firefox. Wish I could get it to work in IE, but there are already a few other link stylings that only work in Firefox. For instance, email links look like any other external link in IE. They don't get the cute little envelope image. Something I just thought of: should the h*r image go after the link? Or is it okay before the link like it is now? Seems like putting it after the link would be more correct, since it would be following the established precedent. — Joey (talk·edits) 15:38, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

I think before the link is fine. And too bad for those peeps that use IE, they just won't have the pretty icon. It's not like the icon is necassary for the wiki to function correctly for them. -- Tom 17:00, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Talk Link/Main Page

Hi Joey, just wondering why your talk link in your sig isn't linked. Is it on purpose? Also, can I expect to see a new main page shortly, or is that jump still a ways away? ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 01:00, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

MediaWiki is smart enough not to create self-referencing links. If you look at my sig somewhere else it has the link, but when I sign a post on this page, MediaWiki automagically removes the link. Pretty slick. — Joey (talk·edits) 04:03, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

And about the main page, I dunno. We still need to flesh out what links it will have and if we need to build a new "browse" page of some sort. — Joey (talk·edits) 04:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

New Committees

Is it alright if we start new committees? I was directed by FireBird to talk it over with you. In particular this would be something of a club that got together to do things together for the benefit of the wiki as a whole. -- The Real Zajac 15:55, 10 May 2005 (PDT)

What kind of committee will it be? I have no problem with any new committees. You should be seeking community support, not JoeyDay support. :) — Joey (talk·edits) 23:49, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

A committee to monitor the STUFF'd pages, mostly. What I really want to do is add it to the Stick --The Real Zajac 00:13, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Sounds like a great idea. What's going on with STUFF anyway? I've been out of the loop on that for a while now. I heard there's talk of disbanding it in favor of using talk pages. Is there pretty good community support behind that?

Seeing as how STUFF may get STUFF'd, the committee should really have a name that doesn't reflect the STUFF idea at all. Does that make sense? The name should be more appropriate to what the commitee will actually be doing. Perhaps "Fun Fact Review Committee"? — Joey (talk·edits) 03:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

If I may throw in my 2 cents, I'd be in favor of using the talk pages instead of a central STUFF page. As it is right now, it is too long (Clanky, too longgg!) and almost un-navigatable.

P.S. Thanks for the welcome note. Didn't know we had a welcoming comittee. And it has a special touch when the owner/admin gives you a personalized greeting. --Rgb9000 03:04, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

P.S.S. Sorry for turning your talk page into a huge STUFF discussion/debate. I was just trying to agree with you.

I disagree. Having a central STUFF page is vital to the success of keeping track of fun facts. In particular:

1. If the votes were moved to their respective talk pages, I strongly believe that few users—even the more savvy ones—would be able to scour the recent changes page enough to keep up with what facts were being voted on and where, especially considering that facts on the STUFF page aren't limited to just the newest H*R updates.
2. On the other hand, a central STUFF location lets a user check just one page and make several votes on different facts at the same time.
3. A casual voter can check the page as little as once a week and still remain current and influential. Which is what we want in a wiki—the more input, the better.
4. A side effect of the page is that it makes it easy to get to know the personalities in our community.

With that in mind, however, I'm not saying the STUFF page couldn't use reform. Yes, it's long. Yes, it's disorganized. And yes, it could use some formatting improvements, but that's because it's still relatively young. It's experiencing growing pains. With a little effort, I believe these things can be fixed over time. — It's dot com 18:44, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

Need Some Validation?

Oh no, I've been VALIDATE'D!!! Actually, thanks alot. I was already planning to switch to the web friendly color code mode quite soon, but that was just the push I needed to get it done. And the old-monitor-friendly meathod is a good idea, which doesn't change it that much at all. Similarly, the little arrow things, I'm glad you figured out how to fix the '?' problem. Thanks for going to so much trouble for my sig. So... Here it is. What do you think? ⇔Thunderbird⇔ (Btw, are my old sigs okay how they are, or would you rather I replace them with my new one if I see them?)

Preference Question

Btw, at the top of my preference page it says that my 'internal ID number is 86'. What's that for? Is that the order I created an account here? ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 01:39, 17 May 2005 (UTC)