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== Mean to young people? ==

You're my least favorite admin ever.
:Well, <s>''Bubsty''</s> <small>(I was close. See below)</small>, one of the things you learn as an admin is that you can't please everybody all the time. I am, however, open to constructive criticism, so I'm a little disappointed that you didn't give me any more to go on than that one line. Or that you didn't at least sign your name. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:23, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
::What? Did Bubsty write that? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 20:37, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Indeed. ''EDIT: Actually, his sister said that it was she who wrote the comment.'' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::::Or perhaps somebody from his computer or something. He did [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Da_Basement&diff=prev&oldid=241561 refer to Bubsty in the third person]... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:33, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::How did this person edit da Basement? Didn't you block him for 3 days, TBird? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:35, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yes, he did, but I unblocked the IP, since the edit wasn't trolling or vandalism. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:38, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I see. And in response to Thunderbird's comment: I don't know that third person is really evidence it wasn't he; he could have been covering his tracks. What ''does'' baffle me, however, is that that IP wrote false information about Bubsty's guestbook being gone, when in fact Bubsty himself removed the deletion tag from his guestbook, something one would think Bubsty would know. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:14, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Haha, I just mentioned that point a minute ago. But on IRC- I didn't bother updating my theory here. Thanks for pointing that out. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:18, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::That was me! Not Erik! And he told me he left the wiki, so I thought he had deleted his guestbook too. [[User:Thekillerdynamo|Thekillerdynamo]] 04:03, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Sigh*. So much for me leaving. Seems I have some explaining to do. Some things to clear this whole thing up:
::::::::::First off, I '''''DID NOT''''' write that comment above. I recently showed Sarah the comment you left on my user talk page a while ago telling me to stop using the list of users list to welcome people. Although I really didn't care that much about what you had written, she seemed to think of it as rude and insulting. I assume that comment was her "blowing off steam".
::::::::::It seems Dot Com thinks Thekillerdynamo is me. If you still have any questions about this whole thing, ''please'' tell me. I'll try to explain it.
::::::::::Finally, I'm really sorry (not to mentioned embarrased), that this whole thing happened. I'll '''try''' to have something like this ''never'' happen again. (Depends if a certain family member agrees).
::::::::::Sincerely,
::::::::::{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 04:22, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Well, as you can see below, all I knew for sure was that the edits were coming from your house. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:21, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
You do a lot on this wiki, but you're mean to the young people here. 10, 11, 12, and 13 year olds shouldn't have to act like a 28-year-old!
Can't you just be a ''bit'' nicer? I think more people would like you then.
Please; I'm not trolling - although I did blank your talk page. But that was so you would see this easier.
If you revert it (which I'm sure you will) can you at least think about being ''nicer''?
Once again, sorry for messing up your talk page. Just please read. Thanks! [[User:24.18.208.18|24.18.208.18]] 04:58, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:PS: I think you're still a good admin. Just show some commen sense. (Of course, I should talk; Look who's about to get themselves blocked!)
:PPS: Oh, and about my first edit on this page; I admit that was me. But that was back when I didn't know what a wiki was and didn't know who you were. You ''aren't'' my least favorite admin ever. In fact, you're one of my favs! If you want to block me for that, go ahead; I deserve it.
::Why don't you log in so we can discuss this. Talking through an IP address isn't the kind of conversation we should be having. I'm not going to block you. If I wanted to block you, I would have blocked your IP a long time ago. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:18, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Ok, I made a user. [[User:That One User|That One User]] 06:29, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
::::I don't mean make a sockpuppet, I mean log in as yourself. You have obviously been around for a bit for you to hold the opinion you do, and, looking closely, you are either Bubsty or, at the very least, someone inside his house. So, c'mon now, Erik, Sarah, whoever... log in for real if you actually want to talk. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:05, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::How did you know? [[User:Thekillerdynamo|Thekillerdynamo]] 00:49, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Hang on now, let me make sure I have this right... You're telling me that someone who has [[Special:Contributions/Thekillerdynamo|18 total contributions]] (as of this writing, none of which are in the article namespace) and to whom the only thing [[User talk:It's dot com/These Peoples Try to Fade Me#Hi_from_Thekillerdynamo|I've ever said]] is "Welcome to the wiki, Sarah! Ask your brother to show you how to sign your name," would suddenly and for no apparent reason get so annoyed with me as to <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:It%27s_dot_com&diff=240812&oldid=240757 put this]</span> on my page? I'm sorry, but that just doesn't add up. Perhaps you could explain yourself a little... or come clean. ;) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:37, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Seems odd right? Actully, I've just seen what you've said to other people (like the thing) and what you said to Bubsty that one time. That was why I said "you're my least favorite admin ever". When you said that thing about user welcoming... something like that. But I'm not mad anymore. [[User:Thekillerdynamo|Thekillerdynamo]] 04:01, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::: Oh, okay then. Please allow me to speak to your points: Occasionally messages must be posted that are stern because it's urgent that the message be understood. (In the case of the message I sent your brother, it was because of the fact that edit summaries can't be changed, and so we have to be careful what we put in them.) I do try, however, never to be insulting, and as I said way back when, I do apologize if he took it that way. Also, I have nothing against young users, and I will happily give assistance to anyone who needs it (just have a look around this talk page). It should be noted that several of our exceptional users, including a sysop, are quite young, relatively speaking. Even though actual age doesn't matter, I don't see anything wrong with expecting a certain level of maturity from our users, once they've had a chance to get the hang of things. The wiki, after all, is not a toy. I think BazookaJoe put it quite well in his message to The thing when he talked about what <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:The_thing&oldid=242251 the purpose]</span> of this wiki is. All of this can only bring us to one conclusion: ...Strong Sad's [[caffeine#Transcript|adopted]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:21, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

== Well this is (not) nice... ==

I'd just like to bring this to your attention: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Homestar_Coder&diff=242152&oldid=242150]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:54, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I noticed that. I don't know what that guy's deal is. He is addressing Coder, so I'd prefer she be the one to respond to him. That edit could be called trolling (in the true sense of the word), but it's not vandalism. Until and unless he causes more, bigger trouble, I'ma stay out of it. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:12, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::I was thinking it was more along the lines of harassment. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:43, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Still, if she wants to block him, she has the power. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:45, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah. Very well I just thought I'd bring that up. Have a good night. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:55, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Thanks for bringing it up. I'll be keeping an eye on that guy for sure. ;) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:09, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::This guy has some kind of anger management problem, and I think not responding to him is the best course of action. I don't even know where he gets this stuff; I've never blocked him (although I did warn him that he might be blocked for mucking up the Sandbox), called him any names (especially not "incredibly gay" - all the people I've known who are actually incredibly gay are far more mature than that guy ;) ), or confused him with Willy on Wheels. If he wants to periodically upchuck on my talk page, whatever. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:14, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Apparantly this is all because of [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Character_Evolution&diff=next&oldid=175719 this revert]. I'm really confused as to how posting a few images constitutes two to three hours work as well as hating Homestar Coder for reverting it. Additionally, it didn't really fit; those images were all over the place. &mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 01:34, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I thought I [[User talk:Homestar Coder/MayAug2005#character evolution|explained reasonably]] that the pictures made the page cluttery; at the time, I was also trying to get that page deleted as I considered it redundant with [[:Category:Character Evolution]]. *shrug* {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 01:40, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== Whoa! ==

[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:It%27s_dot_com&diff=243608&oldid=242626 Wow.] --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:02, 21 January 2006 (UTC) <small>(And here I was trying to come up with some cool archive style for mine...)</small>
:It's dot com has archived his talk page? Saddle up my flying pig; I'm goin' ice skating in hell! (But seriously&mdash;I'm digging the topical groupings.) &mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:24, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
::Wow. I love that format! Keep on... making-great-stuff! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:33, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Quite impressive. Looks snazzy, and loads alot faster. Now we've just gotta convince [[User talk:Tom|Tom]]... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 08:45, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
::::This is the greatest thing ever. Would you mind terribly if I bit your style and did a similar thing? :) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:35, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::With a comment like that, how could I possibly refuse? You are more than welcome to take my coolness and rework it to achieve your own brand of awesomeness. (Never mind all that GFDL nonsense.) :) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::YAYZ. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:23, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

== what happened ==

Hey it's dot com, what happened to your discussion page? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 01:48, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

:well, he archived it. this means that at the top, you can just go to the links and they will lead you to the headlines. pretty cool, huh?

::Yeah, I just couldn't take all the whining from all you guys anymore. ;) But I figured out a compromise between keeping all the talk on this page and moving it all to an archive, so I went with it. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

:::i wasn't whining. [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 00:39, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

::::I know. But take a look through the archives and you'll find quite a few requests for me to do so, and there were innumerable chat conversations to that effect as well. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:17, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== i believe... ==
that you are an amazing user. you are just in everything you do. i think it is inspiring how much you care for the betterment of the wiki. you block only the most important users. you recently blocked someone i know. i just want you to know that you are doing the right thing. thank you.
:Is this from [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]]? If so, why would you want me to block your brother? You guys must be like my brothers and I are. :) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::yeah, he hates my guts. and that's why he will never disobey me and come on a website too cool for him again. heheheh....{{User:Seriously/sig}} 14:05, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== I want to be a sysop ==

Do you no wen the next sysop election is gonna be? {{User:The thing/sig}} 16:21, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:Depends on several things. Why do you ask? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:23, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::I wanna be one. {{User:The thing/sig}} 16:27, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Really? How come? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:29, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::I want to be a sysop. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:31, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Right. You just said that. I'm asking why you want to be a sysop. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:33, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Because I want to be able to: Block, Delete, Edit special pages... all the stuff sysops can do. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:48, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Why do you want to be able to do all those things? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:53, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I can't really explain it but I know stuff that should be done that no one has done. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:54, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Well, ''try'' to explain. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:59, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I know stuff that should be done that no one has done. Like people that should of been blocked pages that needed deletion plus I want to help the wiki as much as I can. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Who needs to be blocked? Which pages need deletion? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:12, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::Well there gone now but there used to be some. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:15, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::What's gone? The people, or the pages? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:17, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::If there is a person abusing the Wiki, or a page that doesn't have any need, there are ways of alerting sysops even if you're not one (add abusers to [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]] and add the "tobedeleted" template to bad pages.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:19, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Both are gone but the main reason I want to be a sysop is so I can help the wiki as much a possible. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:21, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::It's admirable to want to help the wiki. We need as many people&mdash;sysops and users alike&mdash;who will do that.<br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Around here, we consider several factors when choosing whom to make sysops, and the most important consideration is trustworthiness. A close second is participation in the project. Rounding out the top six are the ability to deal with other users (especially in mediating disputes or deciding when to step in), technical know-how, the necessity for another position (that is, whether or not the wiki needs more sysops at any given time), and finally seniority. ([[bottom 10|Number seven]] on the top-six list is [[Senor Cardgage|senority]], which is the ability to make bad H*R-related jokes.)<br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;With those things in mind, at this time I would not be comfortable with making you a sysop. Not long ago, you vandalized this wiki and less than a day ago you were blocked from the fanstuff wiki for persistent trolling. I think it will take a while for people to trust you again after that. Additionally, you currently don't meet the [[User_talk:It%27s_dot_com/Let%27s_Get_Started_on_Doing_All_Those_Awesome_Things_I_Suggested#How_to_become_a_sysop|participation requirements]]. That is, you really don't have that many edits in the main or talk namespace nor have you done a big project. I haven't seen how you handle stress or abuse from problematic users and I don't know the status of your technical know-how (again, because I don't have a large sample of edits from which to judge). Last (and this one matters the least to me but is nevertheless important) there's the question of seniority: In other words, even if all else were equal, quite a few deserving people have been here a lot longer than you, and would thus be ahead of you in line whenever we promote the next user(s).<br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Please don't think I'm trying to be overly discouraging, but your persistence in asking has made me want to be as unambiguous as possible. (By the way, asking for a position of power&mdash;no matter where you are (except maybe Wikipedia)&mdash;is a sure way to guarantee that the position will ''not'' be handed to you. Just so you know.) I encourage you to read the link above about the requirements and follow its advice. Over time, perhaps a long time, if you make good contributions and keep your nose clean, then you might be more seriously considered. Until then, keep on tranglin'. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:45, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::::::::::Darn --{{User:The thing/sig}} 19:15, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

To The Thing: Personally, I'd love to be able to do all those things as well, but being given a position of power doesn't come free - [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig|You just gotta ''earn'' it!]]  And to It's dot com: I found this whole conversation quite amusing. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:51, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps there should be a page devoting to answering the question "How do I become a sysop?" I see it asked a LOT. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 01:54, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:Perhaps part of the FAQ? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:57, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

::I really liked your idea, KieferSkunk, and decided to '''be bold''' and add it myself. It's composed mainly from the large paragraph above, but also from the talk section it links to, and my personal knowledge. &mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 02:34, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

:::'''It's dot com:''' Yada yada yada sysop yada yada trust yada seniority yada yada yada edits yada yada yada long speech yada yada...<br>
:::'''The thing:''' Darn<br>
{{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:59, 24 January 2006 (UTC) P.S. No offense to either of you. I just found that funny.
::::One other thing, Thing: as I'm sure any of the sysops can tell you, it might not be as fun as it looks from the other side of the fence. It means a butteload of ''work'', and a commitment to a certain amount of involvement and responsibilities. It's like the Spiderman thing (you know, "With great power...). <small>(Except it ''doesn't'' come with the ability to swing through Manhattan streets in spandex.)</small> Also, about helping the wiki: yeah, deleting pages and blocking folks help, but it's really only a small percentage of the work that improves the wiki: the bulk of it is regular users editting and reviewing each other's edits. In other words, you ''already'' have the power for the single biggest part of wiki-helping that goes on. &mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:02, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::Nevermind I'm a sysop on [http://weirdal.wikicities.com/ My own wiki] now. But it would still be cool to be one. {{User:The thing/sig}} 21:59, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

== i'm back ==
hey, it's dot com. i just got unblocked this morning. i want to say you did the right thing, and that now i will probably be spending less time on the wiki, so when i get blocked the next time it won't suck so bad. ah well. anyway, like i said, you did the completely right thing, and i hope you become an admin for what you did. thanks.
p.s. if i get blocked another time, please make it indefinite. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 14:02, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

:um....[[User: Yeltensic]] just made a rude remark on the guestbook discussion page, and you should check it out. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 14:55, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

::I am aware of it and have posted comments. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

:::good. that was just plain crude. if he pulls some stunt like that again just because [[User: Darth Katana X|Darth Katana X]] told him to, i suggest you block him. look on yeltensic's talk page if you don't know what i am talking about. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 15:06, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Well I found out about the discussion from Darth, but I didn't "pull some stunt like that" because Darth told me to, he didn't tell me to do that. So leave Darth out of it, he didn't do anything (well maybe he did, but if so it was unrelated). [[User:Yeltensic|Yeltensic]] [[User talk:Yeltensic|Save the guestbooks]] 21:21, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::I apoligize. I now understand. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 23:01, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== That image ==

Just so you know, the reason I restored that image for "[[It's like it was meant to be]]" is just because Homestar Coder and Abdi both expressed their support for it and I felt that the person who removed it was acting rather unilaterally. I don't mind its removal as much if there's actually someone else who agrees about removing it, though. Anyway, keep on tranglin'. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:17, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Oh, and Thunderbird has added a different image. Maybe this one will work well? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:38, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::I don't have a super-strong opinion that page, but the first image just didn't seem to fit, in my opinion. I did have an idea, though (the Wagon Fulla Pancakes). &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:18, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I'd say the same about not having a super-strong opinion; I just wanted to see things done fairly. (I try not to be too committed to my own ideas around the wiki. I find it only leads to disappointment when your edit gets reverted or your Fun Fact gets crushingly declined in STUFF. Not to mention you get along in the community better if you just go with the flow and be ready to get REVERT'd a few times, eh?) And yeah, I saw your new idea, and I think it's hilarious. "Rondelman, you crack me up! Crack! Me! Up! That's why you're my doge!" Anydangway, talk atcha later! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::I added a link to the article cuz i wasn't sure at first which article you were talking about. I definitely like the new pic! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:21, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== CAPTCHA ==

I wanted to know what you did to get CAPTCHA up and running on 1.5.6. I stopped by the IRC channel & was told to ask you about it. :) On freenode, I am earthsound (registered user). Also, you can reach me at gmail.com (same user name). 
Thanks!
:(He and I spoke via the chat channel, and the gist of the discussion was that I was not the author of the software, just an assistant implementor, and I directed him to the software author. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:41, 25 January 2006 (UTC))


== The ongoing saga ==
um, someone left a message on my talk page stating that it was weird that trendy totebag did not sign on while i was blocked. i know i may be wrong, but i suspect the anonymous user was, well, you know enough to figure it out. the writing, the splling....it's all the same. you probably can't match the ip addresses, but i would like it if you did. or he just didn't leave a sig, and you can check the contribs. thank you. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 21:57, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Um, there's really no mystery, since he was logged in when he made that edit. I have taken care of it. *sigh* &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:42, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, you must be tired of our bickering. It seems i am stupid enough to not stop until i get blocked, so i guess i deserved to be.  '''ah well.''' {{User:Seriously/sig}} 00:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I don't mean to rub it in, but EIGHT MINUTES?! Nice, real nice. Eight min. is all it takes to get blocked. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 01:03, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Has Matt? ON WHEELS! ==

Thanks for clearing up all those page moves on my user space. I seriously was actually ''laughing'' the whole time it was happening. I think my userpage had at least 12 "ON WHEELS!" in the page title. My first time being WoW'd. Ever. Well, anyway, thanks a lot! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 04:14, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:No probalo. :) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:17, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
::Wow! someone must really like you! Ooo! ooo!  Here's an idea (stemming from our basement discussion that should really go there but i'm sure the discussion has been archived): use the Captcha (ok maybe it's not such as hot of an idea now that i see the page move history) for making moves for all users (since we move pages seldom).  But i guess these moves ''were'' done manually! Interesting. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:21, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Actually, I believe the CAPTCHA image is used in move processes for all users. I had to use it. &mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:23, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh yeah! you're right! It is! I just saw it when i hit the move button in your pa&mdash; *points* LOOK! *Runs away* --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:41, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

== .swf decompiler ==

Where did you find a .swf decompiler? Stuntman021

:I use [http://www.eltima.com/products/flashdecompiler/ Flash Decompiler] by Eltima. A free download is available (which is the version I have, and it meets my needs pretty well), and the full version looks to have a lot of features. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:53, 28 January 2006 (UTC)


== G'bye ==
dot, I think I am going to take a break from the wiki. I just wanted you to answer a question of mine: do you ever feel like the wiki ends up affecting more than just the wiki aspect of your life? I mean, Ciberdude's got my IM screenname and my email address, and he won't stop from either. I know you can't help me with this, but I think I have to make myself a little more discreet the next time I come on here. That's why I'm taking a break. Just act like I'm gone for good, okay? I'll be back soon, just not for  a while. Thanks for all the privelages. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 03:41, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, giving out personal info can be useful, but it can come back to haunt you sometimes. Take care, man. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:44, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
::I will. And even if you lose your sysop privelages, block ciberdork while I am gone. I'll still edit anonymously. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 03:46, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Seriously, Seriously, you say the weirdest things. Talk atcha later. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:50, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Seriosuly, Seriously. I mean Seriously. What. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 03:53, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::So, i finally learned to block email addresses, and IM ones too. So.....I guess I'm on the wiki again, and once again I am wildly exaggerating like I always do. Ah well. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 22:04, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

== What did you do ==
I would just like to make a counterpoint to hating guestbooks, even though the discussion is over. Have you ever thoguht how much sigs should be deleted? You must have, because if you are going to delete guestbooks like you did, the exact same reasons apply to sigs. People working on their sigs clutters up the recent changes, I know because I do it '''all the time'''. Sigs are not contributing to the wiki, just like you insist guestbooks don't. And finally, They give no proof that someone ever read your userpage, something that by the way is something that people either do or don't but that shouldn't matter to anyone else. I just think that What you and the admins did was entirely opinionated. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:45, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
:No proof, eh?  Well, I guess that someone could read a user page in a matter of seconds and then promptly sign a guestbook.  Not all sigs clog recent changes, just yours.  Sigs are a means of identifying a user, and thus serve a purpose.  I am not meaning to reply for It's dot com, but I just wanted to say this. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 22:58, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
::Also, I bet a lot of sig flooding could be stopped if people just used "Show Preview". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::: Sigs exist anyway; you edit them in your user preferences (which does not show up on Recentchanges). The custom, however, is to create a User/sig template and use ''that'' as your sig. The User/sig versions are used because:
:::# They're easier to edit.
:::# If you edit one, ''all'' of your signatures change. If you edit the sig in your preferences, only ''future'' signatures change.
::: What's more, custom sigs of any sort allow links to your Talk or Contributions page, and make it easier to tell who's who (if you see a light blue sig with a green "Talk" area, it's probably me. If you see a gold-colored sig with symbols on both sides, it's likely Thunderbird. etc.) I'd take that over not being able to tell if I've previously read a user page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:29, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
:::And, by the way, it was not the admins' decision to remove them; they may have started the voting, but ''everyone with a user name'' could vote. I abstained voting entirely because I don't really care. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:32, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Got it. Reluctantly. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:16, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

==  Sorry  ==

Sorry about re-making those User_talk:Drwho? pages. I wuz trying to mark them delete but you already deleted them. {{User:The thing/sig}} 23:47, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:That's okay. Just remember to wait a couple of minutes between postings if you think that might be happening. :) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:35, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

== Two Questions ==

Hey Dot com, what's up? I have two questions. First, where did you post that discussion where someone was asking how to do links that were not underlined and you tried an example which didn't quite work correctly? (This is indirectly related:) I was wondering if you could take a look at [[User_talk:Invisible_Robot_Fish/Projects|this]] issue. Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:34, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
:See [[#Super-plain_link]]. Note: old how-to questions from my talk page are filed under ''The System Is Down &rarr; Technical help''. On your second question, I'm not sure what you're asking. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:16, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
::For the first question, I looked briefly and couldn't find it (actually i scanned the page twice) but couldn't find it. I was scanning too quickly.  As for the second issue, it turns out to be a firefox issue :(.  Nerd42's sig goes beyond the table borders for some reason.  I looked at the sig code and all the tags were closed off. I hope you have a copy of firefox to look at this cuz i'm not gonna provide a screenshot of it right away! ;) I gotta eat! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:23, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I'd post it in a more central place, like the FAQ talk. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:31, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Good idea! Just so you know, I found out another reason why you wouldn't be able to see it: resolution.  The problem only happens when you wrap text a certain way. As a result, I have [[User_talk:Invisible_Robot_Fish/Projects#Strange|posted]] an [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/Projects&oldid=255516#Timeline_project update] and a [[:Image:Nerd42sigProblem.png|screenshot]] of the problem, as well as an inquiry in the [[HRWiki_talk:FAQ#Sig_image_bug|FAQ talk page]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:45, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== trolling ==

Just so I can learn the game a little more, how did you know that those last few blocks were Yeltensic, I looked in the user contribs and didn't see much.  Teach me OB1, your my only hope :-P {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:23, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, often times he makes a remark that identifies him as, in fact, yeltensic. If he didn't do that, then I'll step aside and let dot comster answer this. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:22, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I just looked at the blcok log, and I have to admit I am confused. He must have matched the IP addresses. Also, there are two new users that are created. How do we know they're not yeltensic? {{User:Seriously/sig}}

:User:18593095NSMC90531234 wasn't trolling. I heard about the NSMC people but mabe this wasn't. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:03, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

::Yes he was. I didn't say vandalism, I said trolling. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:06, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

:::How? {{User:The thing/sig}}

::::I agree with The thing on this one. Even though he might look like NSMC at first glance, take a look at the article on Uncyclopedia [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/HRWIKI about our wiki]. At the near bottom, it says "If you happen to be new, register with the username: 18593095NSMC90531234 - Trust me, it'll be fun." This is the ''exact same username''. It seems to me that this guy just didn't know anything about NSMC or this wiki and got Punk'd. He wasn't doing anything bad (yet), so why block him because of "trolling"? Although I would suggest that he get a better username. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 22:11, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

:::::Yea. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:13, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

:::::LLok at this '''North Shore Medical Center''' same first letters. {{User:The thing/sig}}

::::::I know exactly where he got the username, and it's the reason I knew what his intentions were. Trolling is the (usually intentional) provocation of a person or community with the aim of getting a negative reaction. Even if he just did it on a lark (which I doubt), he should know better than to blindly follow instructions he came across in a place like that. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:23, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== seriosly ==

i dont think its fair to bann me every tiem I talk to seriously, he is a big user on the wiki and if i am to become a good contributor i will have to stop pretending he doesnt exist. i think i've been banned enough to know not to fight with him.&mdash; {{user:Ciberdude444/sig}} 22:57, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

:<s>I think your mom goes to college is not the person who sent this. But that's just me.</s> {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:24, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

== Fanstuff Troll== 
Really bad troll attacking for 2 days at the fanstuff wiki, Joshua says he needs help. [[User:Riley|Riley]]

:What do you mean? I'm not sure that dot comster is a sysop there. If he is, please elaborate. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:15, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, he is. [[HRFWiki:User:Riley|Riley]]

:::Seriously: This is the third time ''in a row'' you have replied to messages on my page that weren't addressed to you. And in two of the three times, your reply was either wrong or didn't give any useful information. Please let me have the opportunity to reply to my own messages. Thank you. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:24, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

::::Riley: What's this guy's deal? Is he Clan or someone who just doesn't like Clan? What course of action would you like me to take? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:24, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

It's dot com: Sorry. Just trying to be helpful. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:29, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

:Um, he stopped, joshua wanted me to tell you earlier. [[User:Riley|Riley]]

::I enabled some more security that should limit him to one new vandal account at a time, and I scrubbed out some of the filthier usernames. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:49, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks ==
Thanks for all the work with Babel! -[[User:AtionSong|<font face="BankGothic Md BT">AtionSong</font>]] 00:06, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
:You're welcome! &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:12, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

== Babel ==

I understand why you think that the [[HRWiki:Babel|Babel]] towers will be better with the source code rather than the templates, but I really think that templates will make it a lot easier to use and more user friendly. I understand that there would be a lot, but noinclude tags could be used to keep track of them. Source code is fine, but do you think that I could at least try with Templates, and if it gets too confusing switch back to source code? -[[User:AtionSong|<font face="BankGothic Md BT">AtionSong</font>]] 00:23, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
:I think we should try with the source code first. It's not too hard to get the hang of. (Besides, it's just copy and paste for most people. ;) ) I don't have a problem with a generic template, but we don't need to create a whole slew of them for a non-mainspace thing such as this. Plus, this way, people won't be limited by just the ones in the templates (although we do ask that they be Homestar Runner (or wiki) related). &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:31, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

== ciberdude444 ==

im not ciberdude, hes my brother, my computer is auto loged on and he used it to post that talk, i didnt say anyhting cause of the warm welcome i had at the wiki compared to my brother's fued and destruction it was better not to connect me with him in any way. &mdash; {{user:Yourmomgoestocollege/sig}} 20:31, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

== Recent block ==
Umm... are you sure that IP you blocked recently is the right guy? Because I checked his contribs and he hasn't done anything vaguely trollish. Except, maybe for editing Tampo's sig and page, but Tampo din't seem to mind, which leads me to believe he ''is'' Tampo. If he's not, he still seems like a fine user. Any reason why you blocked him? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:19, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
:*24.77.42.48 has created an account as A fweakin' chair
:*24.77.42.48 has created an account as Reverted
:*24.77.42.48 has created an account as Christian
:Yep, I'm pretty sure. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:24, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
You've blocked a troll with the same IP adress as [[User:Tampo|Tampo]]. He is blocked for no reason. [[User:Stongbah|Stongbah]]
:Yea! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 20:10, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
::The IP in question was not blocked for no reason. It was being used (as you can see above) to create multiple accounts in a short amount of time, which were then being used for vandalism. I will unblock the IP for now, but I'll be keeping an eye on it. P.S. The thing: Exactly what was the point of your post? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:29, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I have no idea just kinda wanted to be in the conversation. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 20:32, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

== Arrested Development-apalooza ==
I wanted to make sure you heard about this. Fox is airing the last four episodes back to back on Friday, starting at 8pm. From one fan to another, {{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 23:43, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
:Oh, we've already got the party planned! :) It's going to be bittersweet. I don't know whether to hold out hope for Showtime or not. And I wonder how they'll tie up the loose ends while leaving the door open a crack in case they do change networks. Hmm. Thanks for posting! Talk atcha later, [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:47, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
::Such a good show.....It pains me to see it go....{{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:59, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

== Admin sigs ==
Why do none of the admins excepy JoeyDay have customized their sigs? I'm thinking maybe you guys are too busy to do that stuff. Just wondering if you knew. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:Well, that's not quite true, unless you have a very narrow definition of admin. If by admin you mean someone on the [[Template:adminteam|Admin Team]], then [[User:Stu|Stu]] definitely has a [[User:Stu/sig|signature]]. If you mean people who are on the Admin Team and are currently active in the day-to-day maintenance of the site, then you're right, only Joey has really customized his signature. Of the six of us, however, only [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] has no customization to speak of. [[User:Tom|Tom]], [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]], and I all have subtle modifications from the standard. If, on the other hand, when you say admins you mean sysops, then there is quite a bit of customization. [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] and [[User:FireBird|FireBird]] have had special sigs for as long as I can remember, as have [[User:Jay|Jay]], [[User:Homestar Coder|Homestar Coder]], [[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]], and [[User:The Paper|The Paper]]. [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]]'s modification is a slight tweak, and [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] and [[User:Furrykef|Furrykef]] haven't been here in a while. Even [[User:GrapeNuts|GrapeNuts]] (a bot) has a [[User:GrapeNuts/sig|sig]]. As for the heart of your question: Why do Tom, [[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]], and I have more or less "plain" signatures? Well, Tom's is like that because he's ornery about such things. BazookaJoe's and mine are like that because it just looks right. Since everyone else goes to such great lengths to customize their signatures, ''not'' doing so becomes a customization in itself. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|<span style="font-family:Book Antiqua,serif;color:darkgreen; font-size:130%">''It's dot com''</span>]] 23:30, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Cool font. I meant the admin team, without the sysops, By the way.  Stu, well I've never actually seen him make an edit. Although I did hear that he was joey's friend. I just think that if you have a sig, you should make it have more convenience, like having a link to your talk page. Thnaks for the answer. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:35, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:And Dot com has toyed with his signature in the past [[User talk:Thunderbird L17/Archive 8#Towards a more standards-compliant signature|once or twice]], a long while back. That special sig you just made looks pretty cool, if you ever did decide to change it for good. ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:35, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
::GrapeNuts has a sig? Dot com customizing his!? What is the world coming to!? ''This message is {{User:GrapeNuts/sig}} approved <small>(not really, I just wanted an excuse to use his sig :)</small>.'' --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:04, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

:::Weird. And ''you'', thunderbird, had a blue sig. That scares me. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 05:10, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Um, I just wanted to know what subtle modifications you, Tom, and InterruptorJones have on your sig. Do you mean past versions? Also, what is DrHaggis's slight tweak? {{User: Seriously/sig}} 01:25, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::Tom has a nonbreaking space in front of his (and used to have an empty link). I have an em dash. Interruptor Jones has both of those and uses small tags. Dr Haggis's real username is Drhaggis. All of us put the modifications directly in the preferences box, instead of using a sig template. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:59, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::So you don't have to put an em dash alll the time? That's really cool. I think Ill do that. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 03:00, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

== Fanstuff on the knowledge base ==
By the way, you say I have to delete my caption contest, yet you don't seem to think about the amazing amount of people doing translations on their userpages. Also, you should think about Has Matt?'s page that includes homsar quotes that other people can edit.  {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:28, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I can't realy think of many people who do translations. Even then, the translations themselves are direct quotes and the replies are occurring on the talk pages. The reason I had a problem with your activity is because not only were you inviting people to edit your user page, you were asking them to ''create new H*R-related content'' based on the toons, which is the very definition of fanstuff. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:38, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::Ah. I realize that my above comment was a little bit too harsh; I apologize for that. I try to stay nice with users, since most already have a reason to hate my guts (including you). So, yeah. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Er, okaaay.... &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Well, DBK does, after the extremely insolent remark I made on his user page, And you have a reason because of [[User: Ciberdude444|Something I can't mention.]] Also, Firebird has an excuse because I was blocked by him for trolling, and Yeltensic has a reason (although he's not a user anymore) because I was one of the people who asked him to stop most. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::One of the coolest things in this wiki is that everybody generally treats each other with respect and with maturity.  Most of the people I know here do their job (be it editing pages, commenting on behavior, or taking action nobody wants to have to take but that needs to be taken) and then move on if need be, and so we try not to harbor little things that may be divisive or in the long run inconsequential.  --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:04, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Recap ==
Can I get a recap (no need to be brief, I have time) of the things that have happened here since the start of December? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:''See [[Talk:Main Page#Recap|Talk:Main Page &rarr; Recap]]'' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:36, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== guess what happened to me ==

Heloo there It's dot com, how are you, i've been doing great. About the heading, check out my talk page and user page, and you'll see what happened. Have you every got a similar award? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 07:40, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
:Cool, man. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:28, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, keep in mind, Nikolce, that the pizza trophy is superior to the Iron cup of <strike>beef</strike> brunswick stew. This means that that trophy is one of the greatest trophies you can get. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:14, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

wow, is there some sort of "lost of tropies or something?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:47, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

:Yes. Check the [[Hrwiki: Barnstars|Barnstars]] page. There's a lot of trophies you can get. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 16:44, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

== Mirrors and Such ==
Hello, It's dot com. I'm now direction your admin-y attention to [[Talk:Scroll Button Songs#HRWiki Mirror|this little discussion]] in the far reaches of the knowledge base. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:00, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
:Tom currently handles all the mirror-type stuff. I would ask him. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:20, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
::Okay... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:35, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

== Userboxes? ==

Hey there dotty, how are these last couple of days. can i ask you something, i've been looking at people user pages, and i've been finding these things called userboxes? what are they?

is there a list of them or something?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 06:36, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

:I might be able to help here. A list is located at [[HRWiki:Userboxes]], as well as directions on how to add them to your page. Let me know if you need any help adding some, if you want to do so. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:37, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Thunderbird, let me say sorry, about this message. Its because i don't like to order people around, but my user page is a bit of a mess, actually its chaos, please help its urgent. thanks a bunch. [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 08:06, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

:Nikolce, if you say please, it's perfectly fine. Don't worry about politeness, because it seems you almost unconsciously type in polite ways. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:46, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

== Idea and it's potential ==
Hi. Nikolce Kocovski sent me something on my talk page. It's the newest headline, I think you should check it out. I want to see if you think either his idea or mine would be of any potential. Thanks. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:32, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

== NSMC thing ==
What's the purpose of that page? Also, why'd you delete the talk page for it? {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:45, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:Also, I'd like to congrat yoyu on the amazing amount of users you've managed to obtain. Truly amazing. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:48, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
::"Amount of users"? What? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:49, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I mean the amount of sockpuppets that NSMC created. You just made a page listing all of the addresses. It looked cool. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:50, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh. Well, for an explanation of the page, see the section in [[HRWiki:A_History#NSMC|A History]]. I deleted the talk page because it was a user talk page, and therefore comments on it weren't addressed to me but to the vandal. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:00, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::I find this extremely interesting. Y'know, I was here when NSMC hit. I didn't know how revert it, though, so I just didn't go on the Cheat Commandos section. Of Cuorse, that wasn't enough. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 18:02, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

== Paradoxes ==

So which came first? The [http://www.wikicities.com/wiki/User:Sannse/Please_leave_this_line_alone chicken], or the [[HRWiki:Introduction|egg]]? ref:[http://www.wikicities.com/wiki/User:Sannse] --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:21, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure ours was modeled after [[Wikipedia:Template:Please leave this line alone|this]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:25, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
::I hate it when we're not original. :(. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:26, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Ahhhh .... hence the similarities. I *now* remember seeing that before a long long time ago, once you showed it to me, even though it looks exactly like the other one... :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:20, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Cool! Where did you find [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&diff=269724&oldid=269553 this one]? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:45, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:I wrote it myself. See the fourth userbox on my user page. :) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:49, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

==18,000 views==

Hey, you've got a cool userpage. I agree, Marzipan's answering machine is underrated. {{User:Granola/sig}} 05:02, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks, man. Welcome aboard! &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:03, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::With over 18,000 views, it ''has'' to be good. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 14:25, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::18,000 views?? When did that happen?! &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:59, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm not sure I trust those counters anyway... The one at the bottom of this talk page currently shows only about 800 views, but surely ''that'' can't be right. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:44, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::I've been having a similar situation on my user page. For some ''extremely'' odd reason, it says I have ''28,000'' page views. Seriously, I'm not that popular. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 19:09, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::You were talking to Dot com, not Seriously. {{User:Granola/sig}} 21:51, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, Granola. That's one of the worst jokes I've heard all day. :P &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:55, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Of course, I, being a retard, do not understand that joke a bit. Also, dot com, you might as well delete that thing on the bottom I wrote, cause you asked the smoking monkey to delort it. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:58, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Well, you see, "Seriously" can mean both your username or "in a serious manner". Has Matt? meant that ''in reality'' he is not as popular as 28,000 page views would seem to indicate, but Granola took it to mean that he was addressing you directly. Hilarity ensued. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:16, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Or a total lack of hilarity, as it was a crappy joke. {{User:Granola/sig}} 22:38, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Oh good, I knew you weren't that popular :P Maybe with all the code fiddling you do, you somehow reversed the number of talk page views with the number of userpage views or something. I've gotta say this has shattered my confidence in those little counter things, before I would have trusted those things with my life. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:24, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::And I jumped from 2500 to 6000 in less than 24 hours awhile ago. That can't be right, either. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:28, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::The number is so small because the counter was reset to zero when this page was moved back incorrectly from a vandal. It had to be deleted and recreated, and that's probably what caused the problem.  And Heimstern, do you have your preferences set to hold page caches?  If you do, that's probably what caused the view count to jump.  {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 06:30, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Aw, man! You're probably right, HSRusername. That really bums me out. I would reset my counter, except that I have no idea what to set it to. By the way, as far as I know, I've never messed with anything that would affect those numbers. Maybe they've gone up dramatically because an outside bot is gathering data or something (like for Google). &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:34, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::At the very least, as of [[User talk:Thunderbird L17/Archive 16#6,000 views!|06:57, 7 December 2005 (UTC)]], you had over 6,000 talk page views, and just under 6,000 userpage views. I think it's safe to give yourself at least a 10,000 talk page view head start, as long as you give your userpage a 10,000 view handicap. That should get you somewhat back on track. ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:38, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Well, I found an archive just before all the hubbub that put the count at 10,071. I added that to the 958 currently showing to get 11,029, and used that figure to reset my counter. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:55, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

==Autocolumn==

Btw, I wanted to say excellent work on the autocolunm feature. I was looking at the Strong Bad Email tables yesterday, thinking an autocolumn thing would be a nice feature, and lo and behold not two hours later it had been converted. Nice work. (I suppose for colunms such as the ones on my userpage though, it doesn't have any useful application, correct?) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 14:25, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:I tried to use it for the ones in my page, but it just screwed things up. Although I did put it on [[The Field]] and [[Strong Badia]] and Has Matt? used it on [[Homestar Talker]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:47, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::Thanks! Yeah, when the columns are independent lists, they still have to be done the regular way. The autocolumns are for when you have one long list that just needs to be split up. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:59, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Very nice script, It's dot com. No more tiring counts of items-per-column to make sure each one is equal. &mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:23, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Wait, what was the difference? I don't see anything new...at least I don't think...{{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:52, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

== The Smoking Monkey's talk page ==
Why isn't what he did bad to you? Before you say no, let me explain. First of all, he embarassed me ''and'' The thing on his talk page '''on purpose''', second of all, he said apology's to dot com, which means he knew this would have a certain outcome to certain people like me, you (which for some reason you find fine), and the thing. This is a perfect example of premeditated malice. And third of all, would you like it if someone made fun of you on their talk page for everyone to see? {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:24, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:I have asked The Smoking Monkey to revert or remove the thread. If you find it insulting, then it is a personal attack, which we don't want. I assure you this was not The Smoking Monkey's intent, but that is beside the point. Let me take this opportunity, however, to suggest that learning to laugh at one's self is one of the most difficult yet rewarding things a person can do. In addition, I think you should ''stop'' apologizing and ''start'' adding more content to this site. Whenever I click on your contribs, I notice that over the last week your user talk contribs outnumber your main namespace contribs 7 to 1. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:07, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::yes. I understand. Also, I've been adding to the wooky (a major overhaul of the site just because I feel sorry for it), so I havn't had much of a chance. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:10, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== Finding vandalism ==

Hey, just wanted to flag a sysop. [[other days]] was mildly vandalized. I fixed it but figured you might want to know about it. Feel free to delete this from your talk if you want. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:22, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:Simple nuisance vandalism can just be fixed and then ignored. The best way to let us know about more serious vandalism is to post it on [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]]. Then we'll get it taken care of. Thanks for reverting that page. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:41, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== The thing ==
Now that he's unblocked, I'm thinking you can put that template for his block reason on his talk  page. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:32, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

== Did I just miss that? ==

Did I miss something or is this just deja vu?  I *just* noticed that the order of the "diff" and "hist" buttons are out of order from the other wiki's.  In wikipedia, they are before the page title, here they are after the page title. How long has it been like that, and was that part of your recent tinkerings? Confused in Connecticut. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:07, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:You live in connecticut? Bodacious in Buffalo {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:10, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::I don't see what you're saying at all. Whistlin' in Washington, {{User:Jay/sig}} 22:12, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::You sure? On the Bonus Stage Wiki, they also go (diff)(hist), so... I dunno. Not Doing A Name Thingy Like The Rest Of You in Pennsylvania. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::I think what he meant, although I don't see it, is that he thinks that it was "{page title} (diff)(hist)" here. Lazing Around in Lynnwood, {{User:Jay/sig}} 22:16, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::Hm. Odd. I see it the other way around. I mean, the correct way. Maybe Stux's internet is just going spastic. Not telling anyone my location, {{User:Teh_Frossty_One/sig}} 22:20, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Maybe it's a certain bug in the mediawiki 1.5 software, there were many other ones. {{User: Seriously/sig}}
::::::OT: Jay?  Lynn would wash?  Silly in Sammamish, {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:23, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::How very Strong Bad-ish of you. :p --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:25, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Wait, did anyone else just realizing us having this discussion that is getting off-topic on another user's talk page that isn't even responding? Confused in Crapland, {{User:Teh_Frossty_One/sig}} 22:27, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Yeah, I'm thinking it's either a bug in the software, or a bug in Stux's  compy. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:30, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I doubt that it's a bug in my compy since my watchlist is getting the code from the server as it's all server-generated. I know I have the "enhanced" recent changes turned on (I turned it off for a moment and it indeed showed it the other way, with (diff)(hist) first. But this must've been deja vu, cuz of that. Cuz I've had it "enhanced" for the longest time. So I dunno. I probably need sleep. As for my domicile: I actually don't live in Connecticut, nor have I ever even been in the state (sadly).  I just picked the two words cuz they made good alliteration! (And I was surprised to be able to spell the state's name right.) I didn't think people would assume I lived in Connecticut. In fact I am Mindless in Michigan. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:51, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Mindless south of Montreal, Bamboozled west of Boston, Really Confused north of Rio, Dazed east of Dallas. {{User:Granola/sig}} 19:14, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

== Vandalism == 
The thing has recently vandalized a wiki. Check Benol's talk page for info. I suggest you block him, as per your rule posted on the main page. Thanks. &mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 16:53, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:Sorry I <big>LOVE</big> this wiki the trolling was my evil cousin! Plus it wasn't this wiki. I swear I'm crying right now. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:55, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
::You should have thought about that '''BEFORE''' You trolled!!!--{{User:Benol/sig}} 16:58, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Please I'm really sorry! That was my evil cousin! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:59, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm crying harder than I ever have before! :'-( --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:01, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::I'm sorry. Nothing we can do. &mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:02, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Please I '''LOVE''' this wiki! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:02, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::You probably won't be ''Permanently'' blocked.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 17:03, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I'm to sorry to even say it in words! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:05, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Look, you guys. I'm pretty sure all this trolling went on before Dot com posted that message on the Main Page talk. Besides, he's now trying ''extremely'' hard to clean up the mess he's made, so he obviously knows what he did is wrong. Therefore, will a block ''really'' do anything to help this situation? I think not. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 17:06, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Do u see how hard I'm trying to get rid of the vandalizm! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:07, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Ok guys, The thing has more than repented for that vandalism.  Seriously, I suggest that you keep your nose out of matters that do not involve you.  The thing is currently reverting the vandalism with extreme diligence, and this situation is misunderstood by both Benol and Seriously. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:39, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::It wasn't that I was not minding my own business, but I saw many changes to Benol's talk page on the recent changes and decided to see  what was up about it. I only meant to help, and I'm sorry if I failed to do so. &mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 12:34, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::I wasn't party to this at all, so I don't really know what happened in this particular case.  But I will say this: I said once before that I thought the ops here were being too lenient on The Thing, as he's had a history of vandalism and trolling in the past, and everyone seems to be very quick to defend him.  (Lots of "I'm sorry's" and "I won't do it again!'s".)  I don't deny he's also made good edits here, but I have not seen discipline executed equally to him as has been to others who've done similar things, or less.  That's kinda frustrating to see. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:44, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

You all need to complain to your teachers for not teaching you how to read. While you're at it, Seriously and The thing, go ahead and post a mailing address where I can send a bill to your parents for babysitting you. On the main page talk, I said that anyone caught vandalizing <u>in our name</u> would be dealt with. I have neither the time nor the resources to try and police other wikis. The message regarding other wikis means that if you vandalize Uncyclopedia, for example, ''in retaliation'' for something that happens here, then at that point you are speaking for ''all'' of us here, and I care very much that you don't do that. But random vandalism doesn't concern me. To The thing: I can't believe that you think vandalism is funny, especially given that you're an administrator at a wiki. To Seriously: you need to learn what is and what isn't important, and stop being such a tattletale. And stop speaking for me. In one place you say "No matter what, you must get blocked." You have neither the authority nor the experience to be making claims like that. To KieferSkunk: The thing didn't actually do anything (in this case) to harm our wiki or its good name, and therefore there are no grounds for blocking him. (And he ''has'' been blocked recently by BazookaJoe for spamming.) To anyone who needs to hear this: Stop vandalizing. Stop behaving so immaturely (and don't blame your actions on your age; I know several young good contributors). Wiki usage is not a right; it's a privilege. And for goodness' sake, stop apologizing. You've said you're sorry so much that the words have no meaning. Let your future actions be your apology. That's all for now. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:38, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:In reply to your comment to me: I understand, and I'm not asking for him to be blocked in this case.  I was making a more general comment about The Thing's history, seeing as how I have witnessed vandalism from him in the past and saw people, even sysops, defending him and going way out of their way to reason with him, rather than treating him as a vandal.  I didn't understand it at the time, and I still don't, so I left my comments on the matter at "I think you're being too lenient with him".  This was mainly just a follow-up on that, more to mention that I'm not surprised another "incident" has come up than anything else.  That's all. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:26, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::Well, unless an account is being used for nothing but vandalism, then [[HRWiki:Blocking_Policy#Vandalism|reasoning should always be exhausted]] before blocking is implemented. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:53, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Just who do you think you are? ''Babysitting''? Y'know, it's not like I've ever done anything mean to you. Yes, I spoke for you. Just trying to help and to see it in the eyes of an admin. Yes, I've answered your talk page questions for you with crappy answers. Again, jsut trying to help. These things don't mean you have to insult me like that. Y'know, I've really never done anything bad to you on purpose. I always had great respect for you, and I've never purposely insulted you like you just did. You need to learn how a simple misinterpretation of a comment on the main page talk should'nt be an excuse for acting like that. &mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:09, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::::When I vandalized I thought you were suppose to vandalize there. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 23:12, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::::To Seriously: As one who has been an admin several times in other places, one thing I can say with certainty is that many admins feel very put off and are easily annoyed by non-admins (and especially relatively new people) trying to speak for them.  Dictating policy to other users on behalf of the admins is usually a no-no unless you are an admin or are trusted by the admins to do so.  (Obviously, I can't speak for It's dot com, but if I were in his place dealing with this crap, that's how I'd feel.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:17, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::And if you haven't figured it out by now who I am, Seriously, then you've got deeper problems than I can fix in one afternoon. To The thing: whatever, man. To KieferSkunk: Hear, hear. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:23, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Okay. Here it goes, time for me to swallow my pride:

Look, Dot com, I just don't want to be treated like a baby. In my opinion, I think being a tattletale is the wrong was to think about it, I prefer "fighting trolls, and trying to help you with your rule". Yes, I was disrespectful to you. I just needed to prove my point and express my anger at you. Also, I know you are an admin. Maybe I ''was'' a bit overboard with you; that doesn't mean what I said was entirely wrong. I mean, I apologize, but it's not like I'll kiss your ring and beg for forgiveness. I've got to be a bit more defiant than that to ever prove my point. Just remember: I've always, ''always'' tried to help you, and I just found your comment a bit mean. Just forgive me, please, and let this whole thing disappear. Thanks a lot. &mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:11, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

:Seriously, have you been reading this thread and understanding it?  It's dot com has stated just 8 posts up: "And for goodness' sake, stop apologizing."  You are still relatively new to this wiki, and your experience has been limited to editing User and User talk pages.  You said yourself you give "crappy answers" to questions that don't concern you.  When I first joined, I watched conversations like this unfold and saw how responsible admins reacted.  I didn't try to solve everybody's  problems; I knew I didn't have the knowledge.  Just keep to yourself for a while and maybe see what it's like to make some main namespace contrubutions. (That is the idea of a wiki, you know.) {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 00:30, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

== Check this out: ==

Ok, so check out the current [[:Category:To_be_deleted|delete category]]. See something strange? The "Timeline" article is listed under the U's! Even though the tobedeleted tag uses the <nowiki>{{PAGENAME}}</nowiki> tag. Strange, no? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:51, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

== Dr. Who ==

HOW DOES HE KEEP COMING BACK! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 23:02, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:Hey man, I want you to know that Dr. Who vandalized your talk page. Could you block his IP for me? --{{User:The 386/sig}} 23:02, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::First of all, this is nothing to get excited about. He's a garden-variety vandal, nothing more, and he comes back because (a) he apparently doesn't have anything constructive to do and (b) he has access to a dynamic IP. Second, yes, I'm aware that he vandalized this page. Third, I already blocked him before you posted your message. Fourth, please list future vandals on [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]], not this page. Thanks. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:11, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Also, he never does much damage, besides vulgar content and stuff like that. What's weird, though, is how he always manages to come when there's no sysops around. &mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:03, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::You know what I hate? When this guy writes vulgar edit summaries. For people who patrol recent changes, especially kids, we don't have to see that. Really. &mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:11, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Yea. I'm 10 he on my page said This user is fulla ****. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 23:13, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::Ugh. At least NSMC was was just racist. This guy swears like nobody's business. &mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:15, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::He can go to jail for this. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 23:17, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I doubt that severely... Though one can always wish... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:21, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::To this point: would it be possible to introduce a language filter? The rare times a swear is needed (an interview transcript, for example) a sysop can override. ?? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:24, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Probably impossible. That would interfere with this wiki, though, because the cartoon says crap all the time, among other things. &mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:30, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::We could allow the program to accept crap. Still, there are a lot of other issues... {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:33, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::It's definitely possible, but currently it's not worth the effort it would take to install it. As for "crap", we just wouldn't put that word on the bad list. Finally, I would appreciate it if comments that aren't actually directed to me be posted in a more public place: [[Talk:Main Page]], [[HRWiki talk:FAQ]], or [[HRWiki:Da Basement]], to name a few. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:35, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::OK. Although I think that everyone comes to you because you are the central hub of the wiki, pretty much. Everyone comes to you in hardships, whcih if I were you, I would be honored with. &mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:38, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Oh, I know, and don't think I'm not honored, but I, like most people, don't like new-message false alarms, and would rather talk about projects I'm currently working on. Also, there are a lot of questions that anyone could more easily answer if they were just put in a more public place. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:17, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== Flashforward ==

I'm still at the conference, it was really great. IRC doesn't work on the terminals, but suffice it to say, I was here, got autographs, (not many questions) and it was really great. I'll try and get a writeup on Wednesday evening. --TBird
<!-- Btw, today was Mike's second wedding anniversary, and Missy's pregnant) -->
:That was not Tbird. Look [here]. The editor's IP starts with a 6. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 01:43, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::Thunderbird is not at home, so the IP address would be different. It could still be him, but I would like him to log in if possible. If he can't log in at the convention, he'll figure something out or log in when he gets home later tonight. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Too late. His IP's been blocked. He'll log in when he needs to, but I have one question: If he was TBird, why did he sign TBird instead of his IP (accidentally typed <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> without knowing he wasn't logged in) or with his sig (or siggie, I guess)? It doesn't seem right. I mean, if he can edit annonymously, he can edit logged on, and I think the first thing he'll ask if he can't log in is why he can't. Plus, he would know that an IP editing as a user would most likely be reverted. We could unblock the IP and see if TBird can log on now, I guess. Wouldn't hurt, but I still think it wasn't him. I dunno. Oh, also, if it was him, sorry, just don't want anybody impersonating you. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 03:50, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::We didn't block the IP. There are several reasons why he might not have been able to log in (if the computer he was using didn't accept cookies, for example). I think the edits by the IP match TBird's style, but I'm being cautious for now. I'm patient; if I have to I can wait for him to get home to confirm. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:01, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::Ye of little faith :-P You didn't recognize my unique writing style? I just didn't really feel like logging in for one or two edits. I probably should have, but meh. In any case, all I said was true, and more. I left a message on the IRC with Phlip, but it should still be there if you scroll up, to see a brief summary of the event. I'll get a writeup started tomorrow night. For now, I've gotta be up in five and a half hours for work, so I'm going to bed. '''EDIT:''' Oh, and one thing I forgot to mention on IRC. Let's just say I'll be kicking myself for months for not bringing my DS to Flashforward... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 09:26, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::I thought it was you (see above where I say it sounds like your style), but the info was too good, so I thought it was best to wait for confirmation. I guess you'll log in from now on. :-P Actually, the only reason I had any question was because the IP you were using came up as being based in ''Chicago'', which was pretty weird. I admit it would have been quite unlikely for someone to be imitating you, but we've been burned before. Anyways, great jaerb!!! Many combolations on your successful mission!! &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:21, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== Parse error! ==

In HomsarQuote.php. You sure are good at bringing the Wiki to its knees ;) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:35, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:I always seem to forget semicolons at the end of lines. And it never fails that someone notices my mistakes, even when they're there for less than a minute. :P &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::Ah, missing semicolons, the bane of a programmer's existence. (Unless you're coding in Lisp. Then it's missing parens.) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:39, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I used to do C++ so remember the semi-colon plight, now I do mostly webdesign and so am plagued to make sure I have the same number of <nowiki><div>'s and </div>'s</nowiki>.  If I don't comment every single one I'm lost.  My lastest creation is [http://www.odua.org this]  It's mostly done although I can't seem to get things to line-up the way I want and no matter what changes that I make, it will only look right on one browser at a time! Grrrrr. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 23:01, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

== You are s-smart ==

Brilliant random Homsar quote thingy!

You're pretty good at this, obviously. Take a look at [[Talk:Sound Effects#Ogg? why not mp3?|this discussion]] and my idea at the end - would this be something possible to improve usability? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:26, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:I guess you're gonna have to s-spell out what your idea is, because I'm not quite s-seeing it. S-sorry if that cancels out the s-smart. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:31, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::The ogg files. They confuse people, many players in use don't use them right out of then box. But Wikipedia has an interesting solution which we might be able to emulate. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:33, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I should have been more s-specific. What I meant was, when I went to the page about the s-symphony, I wasn't s-sure what their s-solution was. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:35, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::In the 1st paragraph, there's the Listen link (after the musical example) - there's a (listen (help·info)) thingy. The "Help" goes to instructions on how to get your player to play oggs. I mean, I was stymied by them until I was researchiong (on that page, actually) and stumbled upon that.

::::Of course, I don't know enough about Wiki to know a) if this can be done on our system, 2) how to do it even if it can be done, and III) if this sort of a thing would require "discussion" "someplace". SO that's why I ask you, Mr. S-smart. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:42, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::Just copy the source code of [[Wikipedia:Template:Audio]] to [[Template:Audio]] (or something like that), adjust the help link to the media help page on this Wiki, and it should work fine (apart from maybe the speaker icon). --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 20:46, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::It's that easy, eh? :\ Well, it'd take me a few days to figure all that out! (I spent a good part of today trying, haven't gotten far. Will keep trying.) But if someone who already has all that figured out wants to take up the cause, we could have better usability sooner. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:54, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== Talk page rate ==
These days, I've been trying to make more main namespace contribs and less user talk page contribs. The question is, has my diet (sorta) done any good for me? Check my contribs. On a rate of 1 to 10, how much would you say I've improved? &mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 04:40, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
:Er, maybe we should give it a little more time before making a 1 to 10 rating. I say that because in the last three days, you have made more user edits than and ''twice'' as many user talk edits as all your main, main talk, HRWiki, and HRWiki talk edits ''combined'' (not counting sandbox). &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:42, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
::Gulp. Back to work on the random refreshings. :( &mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:59, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I just did like fifteen. Sweet. &mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:11, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, you've been doin' a LOT of edits, Seriously. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 19:12, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::Um, sorry about those things on tyhe videlectrix games. You're gonna be doing that for a long time. :( &mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:27, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::Nah, you're fine. I've always been bugged by the word "exist" on those pages. How can we say that the games don't exist? I can see a screenshot right next to them! :) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:39, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah, that's true. At least I added some good edits to my reh&mdash;zoom. &mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:44, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

==WikiTroll==

OK then, I'll stop, but why don't you want me editing that page? {{User:Granola/sig}} 02:56, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
:Because it's fine the way it is, and you really don't need to be editing meta-information about yourself. Besides, as you said on the talk page, that record isn't even that important anyway. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:01, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
::Fair enough. I just wanted it to be accurate, even though it isn't necessary in the first place. {{User:Granola/sig}} 03:15, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

==Granola==

Why did you delete my old userpage? {{User:Granola/sig}} 07:06, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
:That is not your user page. If you continue to claim that name, I will treat you as though it was still your username (i.e. I will go back to blocking you). &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:07, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
::OK...I just thought it would be useful to redirect it, so that people who went looking for it would come to the right place...<strike>can at least have the talkpage redirect? People have been known to still post on the old one, and I think it's useful to redirect that one, so that posts won't lie around unanswered for a long time.</strike> {{User:Granola/sig}} 07:12, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
::Never mind about the talkpage, I logged in as Yeltensic, went into my preferences, and enabled the notification e-mail in case the old talkpage is edited, so it's covered now. {{User:Granola/sig}} 08:19, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
:::You've said that I can't have "Yeltensic" as my sig, as I did for a while, or have "I'm Yelt" in parentheses; would it be OK if I included in my sig a link to my Wikipedia userpage, without the word "Yeltensic" visibly included, in this way: [[Wikipedia:User:Yeltensic42|With crap]], '''[[User:Granola|<span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;color:gray">Granola</span>]]''' '''([[User talk:Granola|<span style="font-family: trebuchet ms;color:gray">T</span>]]''' '''<span style="color:gray">&bull;</span>''' '''[[Special:Contributions/Granola|<span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;color:gray"> C</span>]])'''? I won't change it until you approve that suggestion (if you do). {{User:Granola/sig}} 03:57, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
::::I see that you have a mention of it on your user page as well as a userbox linking to Wikipedia. Those are both fine with me. (By the way, just thought I'd point out that (H*R/wiki-related) userboxes are allowed here.) But I don't think it's appropriate for your sig at this time. You need to stop focusing on your old name and work on making a new, better name for yourself here. Crapfully crappy, [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:07, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::That sounds reas-ON-able. I'm pretty attached to the name Yeltensic, since I've been using it for quite some time before HRWiki, but it ''is'' my fault that the name is tainted here. Oh well. {{User:Granola/sig}} 04:11, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

== Cheddarlebbon ==
I hate to butt in with that conversation, especially because I've been under fire for that recently, but I am sure that IP address is not him. Cheddarlebbon does not type in caps, for example. He also has several spelling errors in his sentences. I'm just putting this up, because I want to  make sure he does not get the password. &mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:57, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks for your concern. Don't worry though: Per our policy, I will not be resetting the account without some kind of proof. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:05, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
::<s>grood</s>Good. &mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:07, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

== My Userbox ==

Hey! Jerk! Why don't you stay offa my userpage and let me make my own userbox there! I didn't put it on the userbox list! It was isolated to my page! I really don't know what your deal is, but you need to get over it if it upset you that much. Maybe I should edit your page without asking you, huh? I think I can safely say that I was following the guidelines for my personal image. Now If you'll excuse me, I'm going to put it back up.                        No thank you very much, {{User:Republic of Stan/sig}}
:''This discussion was originally continued at <nowiki>[[</nowiki>User talk:Republic of Stan &rarr; Userboxes]]. I had originally suspected him of being a sockpuppet of Drwho?, and that turned out to be correct.''

== Most of it? ==

Query: Why do you only own "most of" the figurine set 1? Don't use that old excuse of "oh, my dog ate Marzipan!" :p --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:54, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:My friend gave me them for Christmas... except he apparently gave some of them to his brothers first. Hmm... Well, he did at least assure me that I got the best ones of the bunch. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:10, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:: Oookay. Which ones didn't you get? (Looks up at all fourteen Homestar Runner figures - from both sets - currently sitting above his computer.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:12, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
::: Oh, I knew you would ask that, but I'm really comfy here on the couch right now. :) I know for sure I have Homestar and Strong Bad, and Pom Pom I think. I don't have The Cheat or the KOT. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:15, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:::: KoT was the second set anyway. Sucks you wouldn't get The Cheat, though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:16, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::Aren't you supposed to get those free when you buy stuff? Don't you have like every single DVD and CD ever. Like ever. Ok so at least all the H*R related ones...--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:25, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::Well, I got these ''years'' ago, back when you didn't get them free with everything. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:42, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

== Blocking durations ==

As a senior sysop and an admin here, if we are being trolled by someone, for how long he or she should be blocked. I know that known trolls like NSMC, Dr. Who and others are blocked forever, but what about small calibar trolls? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:53, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:It's pretty much a judgment call in almost all cases. For IP addresses, 1 to 3 days, depending on the severity of the vandalism. For ''really'' bad stuff, a week or so. If a vandal is obviously changing IPs within a narrow range, blocking the range X.X.X.0/24 (or 23) usually works. Users who make useful contributions should be reasoned with first if possible, not blocked. Accounts created for no purpose other than to vandalize should be blocked infinitely. Hope that helps! &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:13, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
::Thank you very much. It sure will help! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:44, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

== New sysops ==

Was there a sysop nomination? If so, I'm surprised that Lapper wasn't one. &mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:34, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:''Anyone'' who had made any edit since around the beginning of February was considered. Of the ones we took, they were each chosen not only because they are deserving but also to fill certain niches. As we say, we will add new sysops as our circumstances warrant, and this time circumstances warranted the number and specific users that we took. I can name a half dozen other users who will someday make excellent sysops, and anyone who was not chosen this time should ''not'' read into it negatively in any way. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:58, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
::When I posted the above, I couldn't say what I can say now: We were still considering some people, and some people simply don't check their email often enough! (Or they don't make their primary email available to the wiki, which is pretty much the same thing.) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:24, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey, It's dot com, I see you having a lot of new sysops. Does that mean there won't be any new sysops for a while? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 05:29, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, I believe the seven new sysops that we have just inducted are it for a while. We've always got our eyes open, though. Remember also that ''all'' users can be important users. I did some of my best stuff (including STUFF) before I was promoted. (It's kinda funny too... what a lot of people don't realize is that sysop = more headaches.) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:48, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
::So like how long? Because I signed on on Feb. 24th. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 05:51, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
:::It would be impossible to guess at this time, as there are just [[HRWiki:FAQ#How_do_I_become_an_admin_or_sysop.3F|too many factors]] that go into it. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I missed something - is there a page that lists the new sysops? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:14, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

:[[Special:Listusers/sysop]] or [[HRWiki:A History#Later additions]]. &mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:16, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
::Gotcha, thanks. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

== User groups ==
I have a question: I know what a sysop does, and I know what a beaurucrat does, but what do you get to do as a developer that nobody else can? I'm just wondering what it means it have the promotion. Thanks. &mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:46, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
:For those of you following along at home, I was technically made a bureaucrat and a developer on the same day. The only reason I wasn't added to the developer group in the wiki software is because there's a subtle difference between being a developer and being in the developer group. At the time I was made a developer, the wiki developer group was inactive. Since then, we reenabled it, and when we did, I was put in the group, even though for practical purposes I was already in it. Make sense? Okay, now that we have that out of the way: Bureaucrats can assign and unassign users to groups (usually to make sysops), and can also rename users. People in the developer group can lock and unlock the database. That originally was the only function available, but since then I have extended it somewhat using my developer abilities. And here's the distinction: a developer has direct access to the server and database. They can see server logs, view raw database data, and modify system software (to improve upon it). &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
::And is there anything special about Joey Day's "proprietor" group? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:::No, it was created for purely narcissistic purposes (Joey's words, not mine).&nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:42, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

:::: This is true. There is nothing special about the [[Special:Listusers/proprietor|proprietor]] user group. I'm not usually one to be so narcissistic, but I thought it made some sense, and I did it mostly because I could. We've never been able to create custom user groups before MediaWiki 1.5, or I might've created a proprietor group a long time ago. Actually, in a way this is the opposite of narcissistic, as it allows for the possibility of others having proprietorship at some time in the future, and adds a layer of abstraction between myself and the title of proprietor. In the past, we've always linked directly to my user page in places where we mention the proprietor, but we should change all those places to link to the proprietor list. I'll get right on that. &mdash; {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:26, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

== Dr. Who Never Strikes Again. ==

Ok. I've got to admit, somewhat grudgingly, that you caught me earlier. I AM in fact Dr. Who. But I really wasn't planning on using this account for vandalism. Yesterday after I attacked the fanstuff wiki I saw that I had hurt someone's feelings and I felt terrible when it put a personal face on what I'd done. I'm ready and willing to talk to you about why and how I did all of that trolling if you just give me this chance. Of course, I would understand if you banned me right away, but I'm asking you to give it a try.
:::::Sincerely, [[User:Taco Salad of My Dreams|Taco Salad of My Dreams]]
:I can't speak for all the other sysops, but I won't ban you if you're willing to talk civilly. The whole reason I posted on your talk page was to find out about you and talk to you. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:33, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Ok then, here goes. I believe the first trolling I ever did was under the name "you smell", where I added that phrase several times to the [[Characters]] page. I decided that it was funny that someone coming to learn would see that (yes, I know, very immature and stupid of me). That was the full extent that I knew of what I was doing. I later learned of the concept of wiki vandalism from Uncyclopedia. I have been using this wiki for years without knowing exactly how maintenance worked; when I did I became jealous of the sysops. I wished to make a name for myself here without doing years of work (rather like WoW, I was trying to gain infamy). My attacks became somewhat meaner as I went on, and I attacked users when I got tired of simply tampering with content. I started thinking of ways to justify it to myself, such as that injustice was being done to me over userboxes, or that my name alone had gotten me banned. I guess I saw it as a way to "break loose" because I am normally NOT a rude or confrontational person. I just stopped for two reasons: I was ashamed of myself, and I was inspired by the way [[User:Granola|Yeltensic]] had turned himself around. In any case, I am deeply sorry. The least I can do is tell you how I did the vandalism so that you can better protect against anything that might happen in the future.
* I used two dynamic IP's: Safari and AOL. Aol has a set of three or four dynamic IP's that change within a narrow range from page to page. Safari's IP changes once every day, but it usually retains the first two segments (75.123.12.32, 75.123.32.34.... and so on). I opened numerous windows at once and typed in my edits and (sigh) summeries. This way the vandalism was at a high speed. I hope at least me telling you this helps (or rather, that you won't need it).    [[User:Taco Salad of My Dreams|Taco Salad of My Dreams]]


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