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Creating redirects for the filenames of every file on the H*R site, inspired by the sbemail### redirects.
In a debate, unlike an argument or a good old-fasioned yelling-at-each-other, both sides present their arguments clearly, and accept the other side's arguments graciously. There's debunking of arguments, sure, but no "omg how can u think that?? u sux!!" or anything of that sort. Plus both sides must be willing to change their viewpoint - steadfast stubborness is a bad thing to bring to a debate. I would like to thank It's dot com for this enjoyable debate about a fun fact that was in STUFF at the time.
| Dot com: | I really think if it was a "knowing is half the battle" takeoff they would have ended the toon with the Commandos all saying together something like, "and information is the key to the universe"
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| Phlip: | not all the cartoons that had these segments did something like that
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| Phlip: | remember it's a parody of the whole genre, not just GI Joe
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| Phlip: | though it is mostly GI Joe
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| Dot com: | there again, we disagree. I think they would have been more blatantly GI Joe if they meant it more than "health class" video
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| Dot com: | *film
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| Phlip: | yeah, I see what you mean
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| Dot com: | to me, it would be like having a robot that looked like a humanoid version of a car and fought in an army against an army of humanoids versions of jets, and then they never transform
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| Dot com: | my plurals are messed up in that sentence
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| Phlip: | still, it's characters from a (parody of a) kids cartoon show doing a public service announcement - it's worth mentioning that the kids shows it's parodying did that too
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| Dot com: | so ignore that
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| Phlip: | agreed the content of that PSA is worded more like a health class video
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| Dot com: | you can't see me, but I'm making that face you make when you're trying to agree with another person but just aren't quite convinced
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| Dot com: | kinda like, ehhh, with the teeth together and the mouth spread
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| Phlip: | this is exactly why it took me this long to vote on the fact...
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| Phlip: | maybe it deserves a rewrite - make it less GI Joe-specific, and less definite (add "could be" or something)
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| Dot com: | I think that would cripple it as far as usefulness. I think the more GI Joe-specific things we find, the better, and the rest is periphery
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| Phlip: | hmm... I guess so
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| Dot com: | and only about 1 in 500 facts is a good "could be", in my estimation
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| Dot com: | although notice I did not say zero
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| Dot com: | every now and then, we need a "could be" or a "may be"
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| Phlip: | how about "This episode is similar to the segments that many 90's childrens shows (including GI Joe) would inclde after their show"
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| Phlip: | removes "based on" and replaces "and now you know" with something more recognisable to people like me who've never actually seen GI Joe
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| Dot com: | see, I don't think it's like those at all
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| Dot com: | it's not preachy enough
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| Phlip: | true
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| Phlip: | umm
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| Dot com: | and Gunhaver comes across as a coach or (naturally) a drill sergeant
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| Dot com: | telling his troops not to get VD or something
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| Phlip: | ok, ditch "similar to"
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| Dot com: | to me, it's got health class written all over it
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| Dot com: | hence, Commandos in the Classroom
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| Dot com: | I'm not really trying to change your mind. But I do believe what I used to believe more strongly now, so this hasn't just been idle conversation.
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| Phlip: | I do see your point too
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| Phlip: | I'd forgotten how preachy these segments were
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| Dot com: | especially Captain Planet and his ilk
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| Phlip: | (I'd only seen them on Captain Planet myself, but they were very preach tyere)
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| Phlip: | yeah
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| Dot com: | heh
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| Phlip: | there*
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| Phlip: | great minds think alike
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| Phlip: | ok, so play down the similarity of content, just of structure...
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| Phlip: | how about "Many 90's childrens shows (including GI Joe) would have segments like this where the characters would tell the children how to behave"
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| Phlip: | or something
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| Phlip: | not happy with the last phrase
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| Dot com: | meh
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| Dot com: | now you're stretching
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| Dot com: | I'm not saying TBC didn't have that in the back of their minds, but I don't believe that's what they were thinking when they wrote it
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| Phlip: | yes, the more I think about it the less it seems like a direct reference...
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| Phlip: | though I still don't know why, if they weren't referencing it, they'd revive the cheat commandos to do it?
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| Dot com: | I'm sorry, I don't follow your last post
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| Phlip: | well, the cheat commandos haven't been seen for a while
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| Dot com: | wait
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| Dot com: | I see what you meant
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| Phlip: | if they just wanded PSA material they could have used one of many sets of characters
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| Phlip: | including the main bunch
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| Dot com: | true
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| Phlip: | SS and HR making a PSA, SB messing it up for them
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| Dot com: | but
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| Dot com: | they've been exploring other stuff for a while
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| Dot com: | (no sbemail in over 6 weeks)
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| Phlip: | this is also true
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| Dot com: | and the Commandos have personalities that fit this well
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| Dot com: | and Reinforcements: "hey guys"
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| Dot com: | that kills me!
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| Phlip: | hehe
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| Phlip: | oh well, I've gone neutral again
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| Phlip: | I'll mull over it a bit more
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| Dot com: | Gunhaver's a good arrogant personality, and Renold is a good wimp, and the other Commandos are good color
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| Dot com: | and the Blue Laser minions and commander are a hoot
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| Phlip: | good "generic evil persons"
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| Dot com: | (but I was actually hoping for a CC toon for a while now, so I'm a little biased in that regard)
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| Phlip: | me too
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| Phlip: | love the CC
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| Dot com: | WE'LL BLOW UP THE OCEAN!!
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| Phlip: | Part of this complete delicions breakfast!
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| Phlip: | (gallon of ice cream not pictured)
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| Dot com: | I mean, *how* could they possibly blow up the ocean!!
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| Phlip: | with a really big microwave ;)
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| Dot com: | oo ah, oo ah
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| Phlip: | lol
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| Dot com: | Firebert, you stay here and think of a better commando name
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| Dot com: | and The Cheat is just crushed at this
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| Dot com: | movie night is my favorite night... I think it is my favorite night
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| Dot com: | are you even trying anymore?
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| Phlip: | "fire the new grappling-hook zip-line (cheap as free)"
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| Dot com: | psst... don't tell the people on the "day shift", but we're using the channel for its intended purpose... to discuss the wiki and H*R
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| Phlip: | O_O shock horror
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| Dot com: | *no offense to the Eastern Hemisphere by the "day shift" remark, by the way
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