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Email Freeze

Well, thank goodness for the wiki, 'cause I never would have known what happened at the end of the email. For me, the email froze after Homestar Runner says, "I knew I should've asked the Italian space program!" RadSkat3, 20:56, 14 November 2005 (CST)

Happens to me sometimes. When it doesn't completely download before it starts playing and doesn't finish dling by the time it reaches a certain point. Usually you can wait it out, but it's probably best to just reload. --NFITC1 18:22, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
  • I'll give it a shot, and let you know if it works. But, mind you, this happens EVERY SINGLE TIME in the email website (it freezes when Strong Bad gets up to work on his website).


  • Sigh... Well, I guess I'll never be able to see the rest of this email...

By the way, shouldn't the fact that there is no beep between the video game slide and the THREE O' DEMS slide be a remark, or possibly a goof? (I already changed this, but feel free to revert it if you want to.) -RadSkat3


Guys, I think this e-mail was kind of bad. I mean I know they only had so much time from one Monday to another, but I didn't laugh that much. H * R 7 0 0 13:08, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

There's the forum thread for talk like this. - Joshua 13:12, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Bad Edit

VolatileChemical, what was the deal with this edit? Why'd you delete all of my transcript with your own (less complete) version? The diff on the edit conflict page is there for a reason. --phlip TC 13:27, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Wait, never mind, I made a few gaffes of my own with your stuff... I think we got it all in there together though. It seems the new edit conflict detector is more tolerant than I thought... --phlip TC 13:49, 14 November 2005 (UTC)


In Coach Z's answer in the easteregg, should we write "Doo" instead of "Due", as that is most likely what the Coach means, or should we keep it the way it is? Lord-z 15:48, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Agreed and changed. - Joshua

SB's Rank

Any ideas on what Strong Bad's rank stands for in this one? LTNRL? LieuTenant NaTuRal? LieuTeNant in Real Life? Like, Totally Not Right, Left? What? --Jeff J. W.(Talk·Contribs)hr.png

How about "Lieuteneral," like the toon says? - Joshua
Ah. Didn't hear that when I watched it, missed reading it in the transcript. Sorry, and thanks for the info. --Jeff J. W.(Talk·Contribs)hr.png

No Open Mic Night?

I know it sounds random, but I was hoping for an Open Mic Night at Mission Control, just like in Puppet Jam: Mission Control with They Might Be Giants. -JesseLangham

I agree - it would have been a nice inside reference. Perhaps a good theme song? (Actually, can anyone verify if there are any recognizeable themes in the background music during the slide show?) - KieferSkunk 20:50, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
Done! —AbdiViklas 03:50, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Awww... I really like the Puppet Jams... {shrugs} It woulda made an awesome themesong. MrsCommanderson

Possible references for the video game

I was just thinking about the video game pictured in the SBASAF Slide Show, and wondering if it was a reference to any game in particular. Here's what I'm thinking:

  • Obviously, it appears to be a fighting game, so it parodies the genre as a whole. It's not specific enough to be a reference to any particular game.
    • The title "Food Fight" comes to mind...
  • A bit of a stretch, but there could also be a vague reference to Burgertime in there.

Just blabbering. Don't mind me. :) - KieferSkunk 20:55, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

I dunno about any references, but the ghost bears a slight resemblance to the Bad Graphics Ghost, I think. --DorianGray
No, I'm pretty sure both ghosts just resemble basic "sheet" ghosts. Not each other. - Joshua
But TBC are notorious for references like that. And I think the background looks like a better rendering of the Atari Main Page. --NFITC1
Yeah, I think that there is a definate reswmblance there, like it is an Atari 2600 version of the Bad Graphics Ghost, kinda like the Atari 2600 version of duck pond. --



I know Strong Bad seems like a Pantera fan, but we don't know that Anselmo refers to Phil. Could be a city in Nebraska, or Anselmo Baggio, or Anselmo Lorenzo, or San Anselmo California, or just a sweet Spanish sounding name Strong Bad picked.

He's more of a Limozeen fan. --The 386 My talk 21:54, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Wait... what were we talking about? I'm confused.

The fun fact that claims '"The Proud Anselmo" is named for Phil Anselmo.'

See STUFF - we're voting on this being a reference to Rene Anselmo, who helped start the commercial satellite industry. - KieferSkunk 22:00, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
(PS: Sign your posts!)
Maybe it's both a Pantera and a satellite industry reference? The tendency on this wiki is to narrow down references to single instances. TBC are not that unidimensional.Vl-tone 08:05, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Slide Show background music

I'm not sure the Fun Fact, "The song that plays in the background of the slideshow is the song that plays when you roll over Store and Downloads on Main Page 19." is correct. It sounds similar, but they are definitely different songs. -JesseLangham

I agree. I don't think they are the same... I knew that Fun Fact didn't feel right:)!



i think somthing about the narrarator talkign about "smooth and relaxing ciggerettes" should be put on the page. maybe as a reference to ciggerrete ads of the 60s and the propaganda and whatnot. its is a good least i think so..

Sounds good to me - go right ahead. (Real-World References) — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 01:19, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

______ _____face?

Anyone else think that the name Space Captainface was rather similar to Sir Hotbod Handsomeface, another nickname Strong Bad creates for himself in TGS issue 10? I'm ambivalent about whether this is a real inside reference or not, because there are a lot of similarities but, at the same time, it COULD just be coincidence. What do you all think? 01:49, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

  • Nah, Strong Bad's just not entirely creative with name-creation, I think. Nor is Homestar, for that matter. --DorianGray


The comment about a sonar "pong" not sounding different from a sonar "ping" is incorrect. If the target is moving towards the pinger, the returning "pong" will be higher pitched than the initial "ping". If the target is moving away from the pinger the "pong" will have a lower pitch than the "ping". This is due to the dopplereffect. -StrongRad

The critical question, though is: is "sonar pong" a real term? Or is it just a conflation of "ping-pong" and "sonar ping"? —AbdiViklas 04:51, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
I don't know about sonar, but in computing, the reply to a "Ping", which is named after the sonar term, is often called a "Pong" (indeed, that is the official name of the packet in some protocols, like IRC). Whether this is the case for sonar, formally or informally, I don't know. The wikipedia article for Sonar contains "ping" but not "pong", if that means anything. --phlip TC 05:16, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
A Google search for "sonar pong" (in quotes) yields only 24 results, mostly amateur fiction. Removing the quotes yields a lot more, but none that seem to me to indicate that the term "pong" is ever (accurately) used in connection with sonar. I'm going to go ahead and delete the part about the pong not sounding like the ping, which we've established is false, but it would be nice if we could also say that the term "sonar pong" doesn't really exist. Any Navy experts out there? —AbdiViklas 06:15, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
The people I know that use SODAR (a sound based radar that's usually just above human hearing) just call it a return. They didn't make any claims about speaking for SONAR people, but they said they thought it was just called a return there, too.StrongRad
A lot of people (and some programs) in networking use the term "pong", but it's technically incorrect, as the term doesn't officially exist in networking nomenclature. It came about due to the game "ping pong" - seemed logical at the time, and it's basically just a shorthand term. It doesn't really mean anything otherwise. - — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 17:56, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
RFC 1459 §4.6.3. As I said, it's often called a "pong", and it is even the official name in a few protocols. I didn't say it was universal... --phlip TC 02:01, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
Cool! That still doesn't address whether it's valid in connection with sonar, though. —AbdiViklas 02:10, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
Ok let's make a list of classic sound effects that could be found on a sound f/x CD. "Sonar Ping" is a good one, it's a classic, used in movies and TV shows, and more recently on computers and cellphones. A sound from the videogame "Pong" is also often found on these CD's. Oh look there is a Ping and a Pong in the same list! If there are sonar ping then there must be sonar pongs? Even if there aren't, it's still a good joke in many ways so that's why they kept it.Vl-tone 08:33, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
Of course it's a good joke. :) What we're discussing is that the term "Sonar Pong" would be a misnomer if it were referring to the ping return. More likely, it was inserted into the list because, for most people, "pong" logically follows "ping", and I doubt TBC meant it as anything more than that. The style of this wiki, though, is to explain this sort of thing in the Fun Facts. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 18:38, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

When Sbemails cry

I'm waiting for someone to say that the opening song, "Email is the sound that we make when a young girl cries," is a reference to something. Is it simply to When Doves Cry? I suspect not. It might not be a reference to anything, but I have a hunch it's to something I just don't know. —AbdiViklas 04:56, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

The intro reminded me of something as well, but I can't put my finger on it. - KookykmanImage:kookysig.gif(t)(c)(r)

Stron Gogh [Bad Ogh]'s Starry Night

During the scene with the $15, a blue or yellow shadow is cast by the cursor when it's moved over certain places around the star-filled area in the top of the slide. -- VolatileChemical 02:58, 15 November 2005 (UTC)}}

No idea what this fact is talking about. If it's true, then it needs to be more specific. The only "shadow" I see my cursor producing is the same shadow it always produces. -- Jay (Talk)
The following users agree with Jay that nothing special happens with the cursor:

NOTE: I moved this here from the STUFF page because this seems more like a question of fact than opinion (that is, the shadow is either there or it isn't). — It's dot com 19:40, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Pun Intended?

Whether he realizes it or not, Strong Bad makes quite the pun when he says "pretender of the galaxies" instead of "defender of the galaxies". In societies whith monarchs, a claimant to the throne who styles themself the "true" ruler is often refered to as a "pretender to the throne". Likewise, Strong Bad's whole space program is little more than make-believe. -- The Real Zajac 13:13, 15 Nov 2005 (PST)

Interesting point, though I doubt TBC thought about it that much. Also, it might be worth noting that in an easter egg in extra plug, the King Of Town says "This bill is pretendous!" - I wonder if there's anything to that... — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 21:34, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
I always thought "Pretender" was Strong Bad attempting to combine "protector" and "defender." Rocketlex 22:50, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
No, I'm pretty sure it's just him combining "Pretend" and "Defender" in a neat little pun. I don't think it's a reference to any medieval thing though - it's just a clever li'l word. - Joshua 02:21, 16 November 2005 (UTC)


I decompiled the flash file and happened to find the original picture used in the Colecovision Hamburger Vs. Ghost scene. [1] It probably doesn't deserve a place in the article, but I thought it was kind of amusing. — Zelinda 21:29, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

That is really cool, with the reflection and all. We generally don't put stuff in that you have to decompile to find, though. But I'd like to make an exception in this case. - Joshua 21:35, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
We don't include things you have to decompile to find unless they add something to the article - same as out-of-the-frame things and seek bar things - case in point. The question is - can we figure out who's holding the camera from this? It looks like Mike, but I can't be sure... --phlip TC 01:56, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
Definitely looks like Mike to me. - KookykmanImage:kookysig.gif(t)(c)(r)


Should we add, in the Explanations section, what a Hi-ball is, or is it to obvious in context? Lord-z 22:15, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Not sure. It's implied (especially in radio) that a Hi-Ball is an alcoholic drink, and this could fit the theme with the guy at Mission Control smoking as well. But it's never made clear in either of these emails. (I'm also wracking my brain trying to figure out where else the Hi-Ball has appeared.) — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 22:20, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
I don't think anywhere besides radio. —AbdiViklas 01:59, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
highball:an iced drink containing liquor (as whiskey) and water or a carbonated beverage and served in a tall glass. -- Mycroft Holmes 22:29, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

This is at least the third time they've used hi-ball in some way. I smell a running gag . . . -- The Real Zajac 15:12, 16 Nov 2005 (PST)

Game Boy Camera

For some reason, the grilled cheese segment music reminds me of game boy camera.-- Benol, aka Coach B 13:56, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Up Stairs and DownStairs and in his nightgown

Wait, Stux, before I go rereverting your rerevert, weren't you right the first time? From
1. Down the stairs: raced my friend downstairs.
2. To or on a lower floor: waited downstairs while her parents were getting dressed.
Now technically, it sounds like it would be more appropriate if there were a sense of place (referring to a particular set of stairs, known to the speaker and the audience), but I would think this entry makes it hard to call their usage an out-and-out, verifiable "error," certainly not one deserving a Fun Fact, anyway. —AbdiViklas 16:44, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

The way I read it as it should be is "body falling down [the] stairs" so the body is actively falling down the stairs -- that would make sense for a sound effect. The other way "body falling downstairs" implies that I am upstairs listening to a body falling in the floor bellow. The example sentece 1. to me, reads the same way: I'm racing my friend to the lower level. Once I realized this that's why I re-reverted. :) --Stux 16:48, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) This is similar to the "trooper" discussion we were having in Talk:Coach Z. Here's how I understand the usage of the terms:
  • Going downstairs: Denotes that you're specifically going to a lower floor. Refers more to the destination than to how you get there.
  • Going down (the) stairs: Refers more to the fact that you're going down a flight of stairs. Does not necessarily talk about the destination.
  • Blank stares: What I'm probably getting right now. ;)

Personally, I think "Body falling downstairs" and "Body falling down stairs" are both perfectly acceptable, though given the nature of the sound effect, "down stairs" (as in, "down some stairs") is probably more technically correct. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 16:53, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Edit Conflict: Ugh well ok i'm not so sure now... but 1. the samples you gave me were from the adv. section, is the sound effect label also using it as an adverb? --Stux 16:54, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
(Edit Conflict 1: Edit conflict, too?) Sorry, but I'm still confused. Wouldn't "To or on a lower floor" cover this? Again, that would convey a sense of place on the speaker, but would be acceptable; and in the first example, the speaker isn't referring to a floor below per se; he/she is actually transitioning floors; by the time of the comment, he/she is "downstairs." At any rate, I maintain that "down stairs" would have been preferable, but I'm not convinced it's absolutely wrong as used, at least not enough to merit a Fun Fact. —AbdiViklas 16:59, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
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