Talk:senior prom

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Is the KOT Very Own Show a reference to Butter's Own Episode on South Park

Just a comment about the thoughts I had before realizing it was a sbemail instead of a KOT short! ~OptimumCoder

I don't think it was an intentional reference, as the Brothers Chaps claim they don't watch South Park, and definitely not to that episode (the fact that it's his very own episode is a little too broad), but it is remarkable similar to the infamous Terrance and Phillip episode. They were running a 2-part episode, and rather than showing the second part of it, since the airdate fell on April Fools, they showed a completely unrelated episode. I was thinking of adding this to the references. As long as it's clear that it probably isn't intentional, I think it would fit. And complaints, before I add it? Evan

No, this thing is totally a parady of Butter's Own Episode. The opening music is nearly an exact match. --The Real Zajac 00:30, 3 May 2006 (PDT)

If someone could get a screenshot from Butters own Episode that would be helpful.

I have the episode on my compy, matter o' fact. The "Everyone Knows It's Butters!" part sounds SORTA like the KoT chime, but if the song was a little longer and described how the KoT thinks being your self is the best thing around, then MAYBE I would agree. :P I still insist that it's more like the Terrance and Phillip gag as mentioned.

EDIT: Hope it's okay, but I uploaded the song from the Butters episode. http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Butterssong.ogg Whaddya think? I still insist that it's a little vague. Evan

Almond paste filled sweet delight

I think Strong Bad is talking about Marzipan here... you know, the real type.--Dwedit 16:23, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

From Wikipedia: "Marzipan is a confectionery consisting primarily of ground almonds and sugar that derives its characteristic flavor from bitter almonds, which constitute 4% to 6% of total almond content by weight." Sounds reasonable to me. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 16:24, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

I like it. Trey56 17:01, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHH... I get it now. That fact was extremely poorly worded, hence my removal of it. --Jay (Talk) 17:29, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

So, right now the FF ends with "The comment is clearly directed at the character Marzipan." What about Coach Z and Strong Sad (and the band)? The comment may be directed only at Marzipan (and this would coincide with the reference to the confection), but I don't agree that it's clear that he's only talking to Marzipan. Trey56 02:17, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

The poopsmith speaketh!?

Did the poopsmith really just speak in this email? The voice sounds exactly like the poopsmith's in different town, but the poopsmith is shown shrugging afterwards like that wasn't his voice. I'd like to say that he didn't, but I'm not too sure about it. What are your opinions? - Wevegottapulse

I think it was him. Who else could it be? It sounded like he was about to lead the band into that "Oh Yeah" song from Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Trey56 17:00, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Reply to Trey: Totally different "Ohhh Yeah", actually. The one in this email is higher-pitched and was pretty common to hear in this kind of music. —  KieferSkunk (talk) — 18:21, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

There's certainly enough suggestion there (that this was The Poopsmith). Might I also point out that this was done in the same voice as the "Hello!" in different town.

THEN AGAIN! That was in Strong Bad's imagination. Do we have proof that this scene was NOT in Strong Bad's imagination? Did this senior prom actually happen? If not, having The Poopsmith speak here might not be as unusual as it would be if this senior prom really did happen. —  KieferSkunk (talk) — 17:23, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

I personally think its safe to assume this email wasn't in Strong Bad's imagination. With how Strong Bad actually got The Cheat and Strong Mad to help him and all. (If it was, then we really can't trust anything that happens in H*R ever again. >.> ) - Joshua 18:17, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough. :) Since we can't absolutely prove it was The Poopsmith who said "Ohhh yeah!", there's a Fun Fact there that ties this occurrence together with different town. I believe that should suffice. —  KieferSkunk (talk) — 18:21, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Everyone thought it was him, but Mr. Smith shook his head and shrugged, as if to say, "It wasn't me! I don't know who that was!"Trelawney 19:32, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Did the Oh Yeah remind anyone else of the Kool-Aid Man's catchphrase? Before the Poopsmith was shown I thought that was who was speaking. Don't know if it's good enough to be a Real Life reference. Crystallina 20:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Now that you mention it, it does remind me of that! That would've been a perfect end to the email—the Kool-Aid Man busting through the concrete wall with his famous catchphrase; everyone staring at him agape as he sheepishly retreats a few moments later. With only the phrase though, it's probably a coincidence. Trey56 21:40, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it makes no sense as a reference. No one crashed through a wall. And they already had a refreshing punch available. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  21:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

There's no solid proof that it was the Poopsmith.

Yes, that has been pointed out. Nobody is claiming that it definitely was the Poopsmith in this case. We're acknowledging that it was "very strongly suggested", but the whole point of the joke is that we didn't see it happen. So there's still some ambiguity there. —  KieferSkunk (talk) — 23:36, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps the voice was ventriloquism performed by David Coppafeel. Trey56 17:52, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

More than two prom...blems?

Current Fun Fact:

• Marzipan's comment "...every freakin' year...." implies that she has attended the senior prom more than once. Because it is typically the final dance in high school, most people only attend the senior prom once.

I edited this from another version that said "it seems implausible that she would have attended it more than once". I beg to differ: There are a few reasons why she could have. (1) She could have gotten held back and repeated the third grade her senior year multiple times. (2) She could have gone with Homestar in previous years (and he'd probably be more likely to get held back). And (3) She could have served some other purpose in previous years.

My point is, I don't think we have enough to go on to say why she'd be at the prom multiple years. But a lot of cartoons and comics run on the implication that the characters never age, and they repeat the same years of their lives each year (a 365-day version of Groundhog Day, or something). That seems plausible in the HR Universe as well. Thus, I think the Fun Fact should kinda gloss over the "implausibilities" and relate Marzipan's comment to the way it is in real life.

And for the block, do you agree? —  KieferSkunk (talk) — 17:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Also, Marzipan could have simply heard that pantless-Strong Bad won Prom Queen multiple years in a row or whatever happened. --Jay (Talk) 17:57, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

It makes more sense to me that they just all go to a senior prom every year. 130.127.84.204 18:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't Marzipan's initial " as always, we're the only couple at the prom" comment lend further credence to the whole multiple prom hypothesis? 85.65.116.80 00:20, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

The thing is some schools let any students go to the prom. --The Real Zajac 00:33, 3 May 2006 (PDT)

Everybody everybody! Longest pants!

I would suggest that there definitely needs to be a reference regarding the ongoing pants/no-pants debate regarding Coach Z and Homestar. This seems to put the nail in the coffin that there are, in fact, no pants going on with either of them. Although (he realizes) it could also be argued that Coach Z wears a body suit, which doesn't technically have any stand-alone pants, which still leaves the door open for his "green-body/green body suit" ambiguity. (PS: Stand Alone Pants would be a great name for a rock band.)

There's a reference to Homestar's Pants already on the page. That's where the debate is most fully explained. —  KieferSkunk (talk) — 18:42, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Whether or not this is proof Homestar doesn't wear pants should be put up for a vote me thinks. The obvious argument for would be the fact that his pants didn't poof away at all and his discussion with pompom during the easteregg seemed to imply he was covering. The arguments against could be that Strong Bads remote malfunctioned, or perhaps Homestar wears pants that look exactly like his legs!

I like the "Maybe Homestar's pants look exactly like his legs" line of thinking. Another thought on Coach Z: how can one reliably say that he "puked his pants" and then have no pants disappear? On a personal note, two years ago, before finding this site, I never thought I would be this concerned about the existence of a cartoon character's pants.

For general Pants, see Pants. (Would General Pants be a good name for a Cheat Commando?) —  KieferSkunk (talk) — 22:18, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Better than "Firebert."

Well, the fact that we didn't hear a poof or see a poof is enough evedince for me that Homestar is pantsless and not a long pants man.

Right, it seems like Homestar is the only one around who seems convinced that he wears pants. Coach Z is still a bit of an issue, in my mind. As far as the Pants page is concerned, that's less an informational resource on the evidence for and against the various characters' pantsitudinal condition and more of a link to all the cartoons where someone simply mentions the word "pants." Since this is such a long-standing gag, it would be nice to see it expanded.

Every time recently that Homestar's pants have been mentioned, TBC present both sides, first suggesting one thing and then the other. (The same is true for Homestar's arms.) It is intentionally ambiguous. I wouldn't be surprised if TBC didn't even know the true nature of things. He's drawn that way just because it looks right to them. Trying to assert that he actually does or doesn't have pants (or, sheesh, voting here on the matter) would be futile. — It's dot com 23:47, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank Goodness!

I'ma just glad Strong Bad wore undawears this day. Thank you, thank you. Back to where I was! Homfrog 18:30, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. I actually didn't realise that Strong Bad was the only one in the group that wears pants until now. Maybe Bubs too, but he wasn't in the shot. I can't imagine how Bubs would look pantsless.--DumDe 18:39, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

There's something I'd prefer not to think about... --Jay (Talk) 18:41, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey, ummm, everybody?

This wasn't really the senior prom. It all happens in the present, and evrybody was probably preforming for Strong Bad's little idea thing.

See Joshua's comment above, about whether it was in SB's imagination or not. If it wasn't a canonical occurence, then we really can't trust anything that happens on H*R.com again. —  KieferSkunk (talk) — 19:17, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Further more, why would everyone play this out for Strong Bad. Obviously, Marzipan wouldn't do anything for Strong Bad

She played Cutesy Buttons. Evan

Obviously they're playing their roles in 'Strong Bads Quite popular cartoon show' which is why he threw together that over-the-top opening scene with the "answering machine"

All the Kingsmen

I know the band's name All the King's Men is more than likely a reference to the nursery rhyme Humpty Dumpty (which remarkably isn't in RWR). But it could also be a reference to the rock band "The Kingsmen", famous for their cover of "Louie Louie". Swimma Dan 20:00, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

• It sounds plausible to me - sort of like Before and After Puzzles on Wheel of Fortune. It would fit the situation, since that seems to be the cover band type. Do I detect a double meaning? SBLOUNSKCHED! ^t/_c 20:22, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Delilelia, you got me on my knees

What is up with the "Delilelia" easter egg? -Johnny Baby 20:58, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

• Since we missed the beginning of the email, that part's recapping what we missed. So we still have an email song and all that. SBLOUNSKCHED! ^t/_c 21:07, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Jumping the Shark

Anyone else think that the way SB pronounced "Copperfield" was...ahem...risque? Alex H.

That was Marzipan, and someone says that every single frikking time someone in the 'toons mentions something even remotely sexual. People said the same thing when Strong Bad mentioned naked women in secret identity, for instance. And it's no worse than somebody a-gwabbin' Homestar's butt. --Jay (Talk) 22:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to see "Jumping the Shark" make its permanent home on the forums, personally. —  KieferSkunk (talk) — 22:51, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

I'd be willing to make a complainery type topic about this, if someone else would help find all the refs (Commandos in the Classroom comes to mind, but I dunno what else). --DorianGray

Astro-Sad

Would this be an inside refrence that Strong Sad was dressed as an astronaut in the sketch book?

No, he was dressed as an astronaut because that was the prom theme. Everybody else was either too cool or too stupid to dress up though. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 23:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

I do think it's significant that Strong Sadonaut appeared in the Sketchbook prior to this cartoon, though. —  KieferSkunk (talk) — 23:14, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Boxers or Briefs

The fun fact about SB saying he never wears underwear could still be true...some people consider "underwear" to mean briefs, but boxers as something else.

Little Robot On Mars

Is that a refference to the "explorer" or whatever the heck that Mars Rover is called? You know the one we sent to mars to take pictures of the surface and its all the time getting stuck on rocks and crap?

We're one step ahead of you: check Real-World References on the main page. --Jay (Talk) 06:21, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

David Copperfield

It seems more likely that the reference to David Copperfield is from the very famous book by Dickens than the illusionist. Certainly, the latter probably takes his name from the former (though it could be a coincidence) so unless there is a specific reason why it would be the illusionist over the book, it seems like the reference should be cataloged as being to the book and not the person (or, at least, both the book and the person). --Sailor titan 06:35, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

While I agree that the book is more famous than the illusionist, I'd imagine it would be hard for Strong Bad to take Delilelia to see David Copperfield the novel perform. David Copperfield the illusionist is more of a performer. -- Tom 06:43, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Old Folks Cafeteria

Could the "All You Can Eat Old Folks' Cafeteria" refer to Hometown Buffet or some similar establishment? — Bassbone (^{TALK CONT}) 08:38, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Clearly it does - so clearly, in fact, that it's the joke and needs no comment. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  09:25, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Apparently not as clearly as you think--because I have no idea what you're talking about ^^;;; what is the "Hometown Buffet"? Mayhaps this is some kind of regional custom/establishment that we don't have here in the northeast? --Sailor titan 16:12, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Granny's Buffet is a more national chain, or Old Country Buffet, but the poin is that anyone can tell the kind of place he means, and that's the joke. Trelawney 20:35, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

KOT's Cartoon Show

Was anyone else disappointed when the KOTs cartoon show was interrupted for the Strong Bad e-mail? I was like "Hey a KOT cartoon? YES! There hasn't been one since 'The King of Town DVD'" Then I was like "awwwwe man!" when it was interrupted. I had high hopes, I always like to see the so-called reject characters (KOT, Strong Sad, Homsar) get together once in awhile. Though don't get me wrong I had worries E-mail #150 would be the last. Worries which were finally put to rest. Thank god.

I was as well. Personally, I think the KOT is always consistently funny -- "Butter-da" and "stuffinged ham" still cracks me up -- and I went through the same emotional cycle as thee. "Cool! Aww..." And since I didn't think this was a particularly strong SBemail, it made for a double dose of disappointment. It's a shame the KOT keeps getting dumped on as being unpopular. He's got a hell of a lot more humor potential than the Poopsmith.

Back to the Future?

This whole Prom remindeth moi of the "Enchantment Under the Sea" Theme of the dance from the Back to the Future series and All the King's Men's suits are reminiscent of Marvin Berry and the Starlighters'. Elvis 15:36, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Apparently, someone else thought the same thing, as that's already in the article. --Jay (Talk) 15:49, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Who is David Coppafeel?

I wonder who was responsible for violating Marzipan. I'm guessing Strong Mad, for the following reasons: (1) he was standing next to Marzipan with his hands up when the lights came back on, (2) he has been known to violate Marzipan in the past (though this was later fixed by TBC), and (3) he's stupid/clumsy enough that it could have been an accident. Trey56 17:53, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Mars rover

Someone deleted my STUFF'D Mars Rover entry?? Why? I thought i used all the templates right! (im ccool2ax, cant login right now)