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This ones mine!!! {Evil laugh} Riley

I'll do the Easter Eggs. Crystallina 20:40, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, i'll do the next one. Riley

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Mentions of Sooldns

It says, that they are mentioned, however I can't find where. If it's the "elephant footed ghost man" I don't think it really is a mentioning of Strong Sad's sooldns. --Not Registered

Elephantfooted Ghost man

Is this some kind of reference that I am missing? Lord-z 07:14, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I doubt it. Strong Bad is just pointing out the irony of "These strange beasts just aren't real" coming from a bizarre little brother who seems to have the feet (excuse me, soolnds) of an elephant and the head of a ghost. Or a Dairy Queen soft-serve cone. --TheNicestGuy 13:54, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Mile

I suppose that the "British distance runner" sort of clears up the mini-STUFF-controversy over "mile" a while back? Spell4yr 20:41, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

That's what I thought of when I saw it too. It's not completely overt, though. Trey56 21:36, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Watching it again I realize it's not as blatant as I thought. I thought everything in the clouds was some sort of inside reference to something prior (when I was only half-paying attention to the scene), but since I can't place some of them to something else, I suppose the runner wasn't referencing anything either. Spell4yr 03:59, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
what the what what??? btw heres a pic of roger bannister: RogerBannister_54.jpg csours 02:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

cool

this almost made up for the crappyness of 500 the Cheats --NERD42  email  talk   h²g²  pedia  uncyc  20:45, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

You need to watch over and over to really appreciate it. It's really a cute short. Just candy for some of us. But, suit yourself. —BazookaJoe 20:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
No, it's really terrible, I was extremly dissapointed, come on, seriously, it's terrible, but then theirs the fact that unless TBC TRY to make it bad, it really can't be, but anything else is always of overall "ok" standard, but for the H*R standard, its terrilbe.
It's got a catchy tune. It's just a little bit of candy that they gave us before the Strong Bad Email. Appreciate that TBC gave you anything at all. —BazookaJoe 21:27, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
I'd just like to reiterate that this is more the kind of topic for the forum, not for a Talk page. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 22:08, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Interesting

Bubs' shirt reads: "My Baby, Got Stole... By the bear holding A Shark"... a wiki reference? --Stux 21:09, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Uh, how? --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 21:38, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
I would say it's a reference to the line "A Dingo Took My Baby!" This was said in the film "A Cry in the Dark" which was based on the case of Azaria Chamberlain, an Australian child whose parents claimed was taken by dingos in the night. This line has been referenced a lot, specifically in sitcoms (e.g. Seinfeld). Amazon.com says:'"The dingo took my baby" remains a derisive expression in the Australian lexicon.' Spiderbaby 23:58, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
And the Videlectrix game King Dingo. --DorianGray
If anybody wants to add this to the article, the best source to link to would be the Wikipedia article: Azaria Chamberlain disappearance. — InterruptorJones 00:11, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Hmm, no. It's referencing how Strong Bad describes "evidence of destroyed crops, stolen babies, and family bike-rides" and the corny tourist attraction T-shirts that always seem to irreverantly mention some legend. Qermaq 01:09, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Exactly - Qermaq is absolutely right, and I think the reference on the article to the dingo-baby case is a huge stretch. Strong Bad merely mentions earlier in the email that "babies were stolen." I remember the baby-case, but this has nothing to do with it, and everything to do with Strong Bad's passing line. Triumvir 16:17, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Certainly the t-shirt is simply playing off of Strong Bad's line, but that doesn't mean the line couldn't be a reference to Azaria Chamberlain. I would readily agree that it's too vague, if it weren't for the fact that TBC already made a fairly clear reference to the incident with King Dingo. On the other hand, it could just as easily refer to old European folk tales about goblins stealing babies, since those are also creatures of myth & legend while dingos are not. --TheNicestGuy 17:18, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Good Work

At pretty much 50 minutes from start to finish, that's one speedy article creation. Thunderbird 21:21, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

On a semi-related note: that'll look interesting on the statistics page... a (hopefully) brief trend where the Lappy emails got shorter and shorter. —BazookaJoe 21:24, 13 February 2006 (UTC)


SG:C2C Reference

Wether it is intended to or not, the Bear/Shark is a reference to Space Ghost: Coast 2 Coast episode "Kentucky Nightmare" where SpaceGhost shows off a spoof "nature" show about bears and sharks being "Nature's Best Friends". Space Ghost had made the documentary for public television, but they rejected it on the account of it being grossly inaccurate. SargeAbernathy 21:33, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

The Bear Shark's been around for a long time. Unless that SG:C3C episode came out more than 3 years ago, it's a reverse reference. Thunderbird 21:41, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
The episode came out 2001 ... That's about 5 years ago. SargeAbernathy 21:49, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Even then, it'd be better noted in date or Bear-Shark. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 21:50, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Done and Done. I made a section in Bear-Shark about possible references. SargeAbernathy 22:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

SBemail police

Is it worth mentioning that this seems to be the end of Strong Sad's SBemail police spree?-The 4rticle B4NDIT

Nah, not really. The "Sbemail Police" was kind of a gag just for the last email. --DorianGray
(Edit Conflict) I don't think so. It'd be notable if the spree continued, but I think it's best left as-is. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 22:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
"I'm sure it's just a weather balloon or a foreign exchange student. These strange beasts just aren't real!"
Heck, if they do something like that involving Strong Sad next week too, I say it could be counted as still on. Thunderbird 22:27, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Annoying TV Show SFX

Not sure what the writer meant with the SFX and the Geddup Noise having the same "notes". You'd be hard pressed to call Geddy a musical note. Qermaq 23:21, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

It was nonsense, so I removed it. I also removed the claim that it was the same sound effect used when Taranchula was first mentioned, in band names. That was definitely an amplified string instrument tuned extremely low (or pitch-shifted), with a chorus effect. The myths & legends sound is percussion-based, more like a marimba riff with heavy reverb and echo. By that token, if there is an existing sound effect upon which this one is based, it would most likely be the signature "dong-dong" of the Law & Order series, both from the sound itself, and from its ridiculous overuse throughout the show. The latter argument applies even more to the signature "whoosh" of Homicide: Life on the Street. However, since neither of these shows explores myths or legends, I think a Reference would be tenuous at best. Can anyone think of a myth/legend show that has a similarly annoying signature sound effect? --TheNicestGuy 03:39, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Bear Shark Filmography

Hi, since this page is being worked on and had a high profile at the time, I wanted your guys' opinions on the post I made here. Any input would be most welcomed. --Stux 23:46, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Many Mins?

Would "Very Scary Monstermin" be a reference to "Santamin", or are the two perhaps an inside joke? Trelawney

I thought that too. And it's only Homestar who ever says "sanataman" or "monsterman" so it could be a quirk of his.

Mythbusters?

Re: comment "The show Strong Bad mentions at the begining of the email is a reference to the The Discovery Channel's popular show, Mythbusters" - no. It's more like "In Search Of..." or any number of shows exploring strange phenomena. Mythbusters is not at all like SB's show.

Agreement/disagreement? Qermaq 01:41, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I kinda agree... from what I remember, Mythbusters tries to disprove urban legends, and then if it can't, it decrees them plausible. In Search Of seems to be more like SB's show.

I'm going to go ahead and balleet it. Qermaq 04:30, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I think this is more of a reference to the show, Truth or Scare.The Noid 13:14, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Whoa, hold on a sec, guys. I think the Mythbusters reference has some credence at the moment - have you guys seen their current line of ads for the show? They feature a sasquatch out in the woods talking to the camera about how afraid he is that the Mythbusters will eventually discover him. Complete with cheesy French or Russian accent (I can't tell). While it's not a direct reference, I think some mention might be due. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 16:53, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I second that, the whole thing, down to the Trogdor mini-ad is a spoof of the Discovery channel's latest antics, among the most popular, if not the most popular, of which is Mythbusters. The show has also been using historians to explain the origins of legends. Even though the format of "their show" is quite different, the clues are still there. *play X-files theme* --Stux 17:13, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Right, but the tone of the program is totally different. SB is clearly going for "In Search Of...". While the name of the programs share the word "myth", one sets out to prove or disprove a myth (Mythbusters) while this one (MM or LL?) simply lays out evidence to lead the viewer. Would you ever see blurry photographic evidence on Mythbusters? Qermaq 17:55, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Bear in tennis shoes?

Someone referred to the bear with blue soles on his feet - did anyone else see that as a reference to the old campfire song about the bear in tennis shoes? If so, is it worth mentioning?--H-ko 02:48, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

My answer: What campfire song? never heard of it. Qermaq 03:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I highly doubt it. The color scheme of the shoes was obviously intended to imply that it was Homestar himself posing as the Bear-Shark. A double meaning seems unlikely. --TheNicestGuy 03:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Intro song

I get the feeling Mr. Bad goes out of his way to come up with intro songs that feel like they're parodies of something but actually are not. I certainly can't place this one, but searching the Web for similar lyrics turned up "Walkin' With a Mountain" by Mott the Hoople:
And if I had a choice in life
I'd take that mountain for my wife
Anyone know what this song sounds like? I'm not hopeful. --TheNicestGuy 03:04, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Morgan Freeman

Could this be a reference to Half-Life? --Cyberdemon 4:08, 14 Feb 2006

No. The protagonist of Half-Life is named Gordon Freeman. Morgan Freeman is the co-star (with Tim Robbins) of The Shawshank Redemption. --TheNicestGuy 03:20, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Biscuit-Dough Hands Man

As I'm new, I'll pose this as a question. Why was the item "Biscuitdoughhandsman is a reference to "Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon." Bubs drew him from the King of Town's description of the criminal who stole his crown, who was actually Strong Bad." removed? It is true. Qermaq 03:57, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, I see it's back. Where do I learn a bit more about what is in and what is out? Qermaq 04:00, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm going to guess that it was because Biscuit Dough Hands Man (note the "proper" spelling, although Strong Bad fudges it in this email) has appeared several times and has his own filmography. That said, the removal was over-hasty, because nowhere else in the article is this pointed out. While his origins don't necessarily need to be explained here, he at least needs to be mentioned and linked as an Inside Reference. He's neither present enough to be part of the Cast, nor obvious enough to be glossed over.
As for where to learn about this sort of thing, check out HRWiki:Standards. --TheNicestGuy 04:10, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I removed it since he's linked above, in Remarks, and because it would be kind of unusual to provide a fun fact on a character saying "This is where this character was first introduced, and what happened in that 'toon," when a link to its page would suffice (imagine what it would be like if we did that for everything!). I'd still prefer to remove it, but I'll give it some time for debate first now that it's been reinstated and challenged. Specifically, the second sentence seems unrelated to this email, and the first sentence simply gives his origin; the only information that we really need here is that he is a pseudocharacter who has a page. —AbdiViklas 05:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm the one who took it down in the first place. I took it down because the fact stated that his name appearing was a reference to Sb's in Jail Toon, but technically, it's not. I vote no. SaltyTalk! 13:20, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I have an idea. We can take down the fun fact about Biscuit Dough Hands Man, and we can link to him in the Easter eggs section! Has Matt? (talk) 13:23, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
How about simply mentioning where this "character" first appeared and letting that be it? We do have other references (like the Mighty Warrior from TGS) to places where infrequent characters first appeared. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 16:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Shark-Tooth Bubs?

Likely a stretch...but does Bubs holding a shark-tooth necklace obliquely reference to the Shark-Tooth Bubs doll? That was one of the first things that came to mind when he was selling the necklaces at the stand. -- Frickinsellout 11:01, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, while it is the first thing that comes to mind, they probably have no relation whatsoever. Seriously (Talk) 12:29, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
i dunno, but that is frikken funny... i hadnt seen that b4. csours 15:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Bear vs. Shark?

Could the whole Bear holding a Shark thing poosibly be a reference to the indie band Bear Vs. Shark?

Doubt it. They existed from 2003 to 2005 and were based in MO. What are the odds? Qermaq 17:58, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
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