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: Should it be a real world reference or an explainaton? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 03:35, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
: Should it be a real world reference or an explainaton? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 03:35, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
There's a bowling game for either N64 or PS1 (I forget which) which has a Cosmic Bowling option. I'm fairly sure of the name. User:Zoom/sig 23:37, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
There's a bowling game for either N64 or PS1 (I forget which) which has a Cosmic Bowling option. I'm fairly sure of the name. User:Zoom/sig 23:37, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
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:I have that game, Brunswick something-or-other for PS1. It is Cosmic Bowling there. --[[User:Bishop|Bishop]] 00:25, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
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We don't have filmographies where I come from, rumble...

Just as a clarification: If a picture of a established character appears in a cartoon (such as Homsar in Ever and More! or Rumble Red in mini-golf), they shouldn't be added to the filmography, just mentioned either in the transcript or Remarks as appropriate? We are only counting if they are "physically" there or not, right? wbwolf (t | ed) 14:39, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Right. — It's dot com 14:51, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Flavored water

the recent change i made has be deleted. your reason for doing so was " is "both" a reference, or just a remark?"

i had it under trivia. Clergyman (Talk | contribs) (left unsigned)

The way he says "both" does not really sound like "flavored water" from rough copy, so it's not a reference nor is it remarkable. — It's dot com 14:57, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Monster Man?

I think Homsar says "Monster Myers" not "Monster Man".

I pretty distinctly hear "Monster Man". Homsar just puts unnecessary dipthongs in his speech, along with all of his other weird speech patterns. --Jay stuck at home (Talk) 17:12, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I hear Monster ma-yan, which is just monster man. Okay.-That same guy that originally asked this

I heard Monster may-an. Awexome 22:23, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Um... Call me crazy, but I keep hearing Munster Man.--Antisexy 01:38, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I second that. —Einstein runner (thorax.pngfile_icon.gifmail_icon.gif) 03:55, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I transcribed the easter egg and I also think it sounds a little more like Munster man. Nevertheless, "monster man" makes a bit more sense in context (to the extent than anything Homsar says makes sense in context). I won't complain if anyone opts for "Munster" instead.--Bobo the King 07:49, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Is it remark-worthy that Homsar's utterance is quite sensible, but the Drive-Thru Whale's statement preceding it ("Pave your brown") is a clear example of a word salad? Catgirl 01:39, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Probably should be mentioned in that research article we got going on Homsar's speech pattern, but I dunno if a remark is warranted here, catmangirl, as it's not the first time we can understand Homsar.
And for the record, I hear "Munster May-an." (Barakku don't wanna login) --65.103.58.163 07:17, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

power of 10

10^10 would equal 10,000,000,000 and Homestar's birdie would be 9,999,999,999 putts. Worth a mention??

Probably not. The terms are already explained on the page, and the par of 1010 is on the Sweet Puttin' Cakes page. wbwolf (t | ed) 16:42, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Kosmik/Cosmic Bowling

"Kosmik (or Cosmic) Bowling is a promotion where fluorescent pins, black lights, and loud music are used on the lanes. " is this really a widespread name? I've heard blacklight bowling be called 4 or 5 different names. I think this is probably what they call it at one particular bowling alley that the guy who added this went to -JamesDean 17:33, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Looking at the Wikipedia page for bowling, Cosmic bowling is indeed one of many names for the same promotion, including Xtreme bowling. I think, however, that it is common enough that it is not limited to just one bowling alley. I've heard it called "Cosmic bowling" at some of the lanes locally, for example. wbwolf (t | ed) 17:38, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Should it be a real world reference or an explainaton? Awexome 03:35, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

There's a bowling game for either N64 or PS1 (I forget which) which has a Cosmic Bowling option. I'm fairly sure of the name. User:Zoom/sig 23:37, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I have that game, Brunswick something-or-other for PS1. It is Cosmic Bowling there. --Bishop 00:25, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Homsar's Hat

Is it worth noting that Homsar's hat left his head without coming back again? It just happened last time in the paper, where it was noted in the Trivia section. Pdkauffmann 18:53, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

In origins and the paper, it landed on someone else. This is the first time that it just vanished. Mayhaps the strange laws of physics in Sweet Puttin' Cakes interfere with Homsars own strange laws of physics. But anyway, isn't his hat flying off his head the kind of thing that gets mentioned in the transcript?--Antisexy 21:48, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

No back button?

Is it on purpose that there is no "back" button at the end of this sbemail?

I doubt it, as it has only just been released. Also, please sign your posts using for tildes (~). Awexome 22:39, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
There is no escaping the Sweet Puttin' Cakes email. You just have to will yourself back to the sbemail nav page.--Bobo the King 07:51, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Speaking backwards

It's cute and all to write Strong Bad's backwards speech reversed letter for letter in the transcript, but it doesn't really do any good. Anyone actually reading the transcript would probably be confused and have to figure it out, which is not something we should aim for. On top of that, it's not accurate just to write the letters backwards, because you wouldn't actually pronounce the phrase that way. When watching the toon, the impression you get as you hear Strong Bad speak is, "hmm, he's speaking backwards", but you can't tell what he's saying unless you edit the sound later. Thus, "{speaking backwards}" should be sufficient to get the point across. Note that we do decode what he says in the Trivia section. — It's dot com 01:02, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

But we wrote Strong Bad's backwards talking siht ekil on this page. --Trogga 01:58, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
True, but it's my position that it should be changed as well. — It's dot com 17:53, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Putt-Putt

Is putt-putt an explaination or a real world reference? Awexome 03:57, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Putt-putt is a name for mini golf. The "golf-golf" bit is a reference to "putt-putt". Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 04:01, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
This explaination is very poorly worded. Putt-Putt is a chan of mini-golf establishments and is more of a "brand" of mini-golf than it is a different name for it. This is much like how a Kleenex is a facial tissue but not all facial tissues are Kleenex, even though they have come to be known as such. 68.99.55.96 12:43, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I Was Just Wondering If...

It seems to me like there are enough mentions of this phrase (I was just wondering if...) to constitute its own page

Dear 75.30.148.60, I was just wondering if you're going to do-sum-bow-dat, or if you expect anyone to do it at all? 68.124.65.8 17:21, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
That phrase is very common in the real world. It's not notable enough for an article. Loafing 20:49, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

New Music?

Is it worth noting that this sbemail has a new track for the background music of the "sweet cuppin' cakes" universe? mostly irrelevant, but I love how atmospheric and ambient the music sounds. -The_Fifth_Grade

I noticed it and thought it was awesome. I think it should be noted. If not here, then on the Sweet Puttin' Cakes page. Something like "The music in Sweet Puttin' Cakes is slightly diffrent than the music that plays in other Sweet Cuppin Cakes toons. There are a few more synth pad (or somethin') tracks, and the main melody is thinned out a little.(or somethin')"--Antisexy 05:29, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Fork of a Pork?

Coach Z's line, currently transcribed as "Fork of a Pork", doesn't sound like fork of a pork, in fact when slowed down and analysed, the first syllable is clearly "G" and not "F". It sounds more like "Gorkafabork". I don't think it was supposed to be intelligible. Slow it down and listen to it; you'll see what i mean

It sounds like goraforpork to me... CloneWarrior 18:56, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I hear "Pork up a fork". DUnno what it means, but... — Defender1031*Talk 18:57, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I don't think he's saying actual words, just standard Coach Z gibberish. I'm not sure what the best way to transcribe it would be, but I definitaly think it should not be real words. Fork of a pork just sounds dumb.--Antisexy 00:06, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Easter Eggs

Could we possibly add in more of an explanation for the score card easter eggs, or some pictures? CloneWarrior 18:47, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Or possibly some of those people who are good with tables and manipulation making a visual text version (like the things on Edgar and similar)? --DorianGray 20:04, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Tap, tap

The sound effect of Keyboard Strong Bad tapping Strong Bad on the shoulder is from the same Casio VL-Tone keyboard that the demo music is from. Specifically, the VL-Tone had one programmable sound called "ASDR" (attack/sustain/decay/release) that could be edited by storing 8-digit numbers in the memory when the unit was in "calculator" mode. If no number was stored in the memory, the ASDR sound was a short "blip," which is heard here. I'm not sure if any part of this is intersting enough for the article, though! Wear a Bikini 19:57, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Goof, or intentional?

The fact that the holes in the whale's hole are gone in the easter egg might not be a goof, it might simply be the Sweet Cuppin' Cakes physics at work. Anyone agree?

I say goof. — Defender1031*Talk 20:08, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
If anything's a goof, it's that the holes were there in the first place, not that they were gone in the Easter egg. That said, it's a bit of a stretch to think TBC would accidentally put something in rather than accidentally leave something out. Wear a Bikini 20:25, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I think the holes are intentionally there the first time, because in the Easter Egg, Strong Bad is wondering where they went. Or, at least, I interpret it that way. Maybe a vote of some kind should be introduced.--69.70.248.73 22:15, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I don't think it's nessicarily a goof or intentional. There could just be more than one drive-thru whale. The shape of the green IS diffrent in the easter egg.--Antisexy 00:51, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
I think there's a reasonable chance this was intentional, and if there's even a reasonable chance that something is intentional, then we are obligated to list it as a remark (or in the transcript) and not as a goof. — It's dot com 17:42, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Maybe someone stole the holes. Anything can happen in a universe with different laws of physics. ¡ɯooz + 23:53, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Style difference

If you look at the scene with both Strong Bad and Keyboard Strong Bad, Keyboard Strong Bad is still drawn in an older style compared to Strong Bad.

-??? 23:09, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Yep, always has been. — Defender1031*Talk 23:11, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Pour gravel on your stump please, ma'am

In this email, the drive-through whale says "Pour gravel on your stump please, ma'am," and the last time (in Drive-Through), he/it said: "Sever your leg please, sir." It seems as though the two are connected; after one severs one's leg, one is then asked to pour gravel on the stump. Worth a mention? -Almsfothepudgy 09:46, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

No.

Seems worth it to me. Catgirl 01:25, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Second -JamesDean 22:35, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Everytime?

Not one word. Another of Strongbad's (heehee) various grammar mistakes. I'll leave it up to someone else to edit in. --4.244.36.170 14:49, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Good find! I just added it. Homestar-Winner (talk) 15:01, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

billion - u.s. vs. u.k.

Once again, something I've added was taken out 5 minutes later.

In the U.S., 109 is a billion. In the U.K., it's a thousand-million, and 1012 is a billion. The edit comment removing my addition said this is wrong. It is bloody well not.

If you're just going to erase everything that I add, why not just lock my account or something. It's not as if I am spamming or anything.

Of course you aren't spamming and i don't think you are, but i also am pretty sure that this isn't true. If you can provide me with proof, then you can feel more than welcome to add it back in. — Defender1031*Talk 16:27, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
According to Wikipedia, the "long scale" - in which 109 is a milliard or thosand-million, and 1012 is a billion, is used in most non-English-speaking countries and has some residual use in the UK, but the "short scale", what we use in the states, is the standard even in the UK now. --Jay stuck at home (Talk) 16:33, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
When one of those "residual uses" is the BBC's financial news, I'd say it's bloody significant. Nsayer 16:35, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia says that BBC uses the short scale. --Jay stuck at home (Talk) 16:39, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
This is all beside the point. The question is whether the article would be improved by adding in the extra note. It currently reads, "1010 = 10,000,000,000, or 10 billion." Given that the numeral itself is listed and the fact that people in the U.K. are (or should be) used to interpreting "billion" as it applies in American contexts, then I see no real reason to list the other meaning when it doesn't really apply to the toon. — It's dot com 17:51, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
The change made by Nsayer wasn't worded the best. The whole US vs. UK thing is a bit hostile, but if there is a significant number of people who use long scale, what could it hurt to just tack "(or 10 thousand-million in long scale)" at the end? Or maybe just remove the word billion altogether.--Antisexy 23:57, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
I feel "billion" used in an American cartoon would naturally be interpreted in the American method. If someone sees a conflict between 1,000,000,000 and "billion" then they are obviously using the old method. Perhaps "1010 = 10,000,000,000, or 10 billion." Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 02:39, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

What are we, in the 50s?!

Do we really need to say Homestar holds up a brassiere? Nobody's said that since 1956! Can't we just say bra? Jeez.-Lappy z 21:50, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Dude, it's the technical term. Bra is just an abbreviation. The wiki is just trying to be more, you know, proper. No big deal. And on a side note, people do still say the whole word sometimes. Hagurumon 21:59, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Zany Golf

This sbemail is strongly reminiscent of a 1980's computer game called Zany Golf. It was an isometric miniature golf game featuring bizzare and surreal imagery and music. All of the holes were enormous, heavily detailed "islands" floating in a featureless, black void. I wouldn't bother considering it a reference, except for the fact that when Coach Z is playing the infinite hole (on a floating island!), the SCC music is mixed with an eerie, synthetic vox humana sound that was a major component of most of the Zany Golf music. Could this be a reference? Wear a Bikini 00:54, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Hell-la-la-la-la-looooo Strong Bad!

The way Strong Bad pronounces "Helllooooooo" appears to be a clear inside reference to the 2nd part of retirement, where he adds "Lalalalalaa" to the end of everything he says, lalalalalaa. But I thought I'd float the idea here before adding it as an Inside Reference, and updating retirement with a Fast Forward. Catgirl 01:45, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

It did occur to me, and it was on the page, but it was later removed. I'm on the fence; it could be a coincidence, just SB mocking the extra "L" in the word, or it could be partially an intentional ref. --Jay stuck at home (Talk) 01:53, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Partially an intentional ref? He's just making fun of the spelling. — It's dot com 03:27, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Usually when Strong Bad mocks spellings, he takes a very literal approach to it. This deviates markedly from the written phrase, and is made in a very theatrical (read: side-show-caller-esque) fashion. Had he not inserted some extra L's and not made such a production out of it, then I wouldn't even think of adding it as an inside ref.Catgirl 05:09, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Yeah! What she said!--Antisexy 05:11, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, intentional or not, it does sound just like what he says in retirement. It seems like the obvious way to make fun of the extra L would be to just hold the L sound longer. It doesn't make a lot of sense for him to make fun by saying "la-la-la-la-la." (Not that sense ever needs to be made.)--Antisexy 05:10, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Okay, first of all, it doesn't sound like retirement. Retirement has a "la" sound whereas this has a "luh" sound. And the last time I checked, there weren't three l's in "hello". I don't think any way to make fun of it is more obvious than any other. — It's dot com 05:13, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
It doesn't sound EXACTLY like in retirement, but close enough to make people say "Hey! That was like what he did in retirement!" And like Catgirl said, usually Strong Bad makes fun of spelling by pronouncing it as written. It would seem he had something else in mind here, and retirement is the only thing I can think of.--Antisexy 05:20, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
What do you mean, exactly as written? That's what he does do here. He pronounces extra l's and a really long o, just like it was sent to him. — It's dot com 05:29, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Well it's hard to explain by typing, but normally when you see "LLL" you say "LLL" (the normal L sound in hello, just held out three times as long). It would have had to been spelled "Helalalaloooo" for him to pronounce as written the way he did.--Antisexy 05:34, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
I think you're being overly literal there. TBC probably saw the extra letters and just took it in a bit of a different direction, as they often do. — It's dot com 05:46, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
I guess it's another example of me vs. strictly encyclopedic. One of these days, I'ma get my shot to stick it to the man.--Antisexy 05:57, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Dot com: I think you misread what I typed. I said I was not sure if it was partially an intentional reference or not - of course he was making fun of the spelling. That said, he DID throw a few more Ls than the three that the emailer put in. "Hellalaloooooo" would have been accurate(ish) and not sounded like his retirement calling. I don't think it's certain, but it feels like you just came to the conclusion that it's not and won't read the rest. --Jay stuck at home (Talk) 07:14, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
I was just commenting on the wording. I'm assuming you mean that it's partially a reference and partially a new joke, not partially intentional and partially accidental, because something like this is typically either intentional or it's not. After listening to both clips back to back, my contention is that they're really not that similar. Yes, one is reminiscent of the other, kinda sorta. Yes, SB says more luhs than there are l's, but he is often prone to exaggeration. — It's dot com 07:34, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I can see that argument. I meant partially an intentional reference, in that it would be, if it's the case, half a joke on the misspelling. Sorry for any misunderstanding. --Jay stuck at home (Talk) 08:14, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Worms chasing each other -- Teen Titans reference?

The scene with the two worms chasing each other is very similar to a scene in the episode "Titan Rising" from season two of the animated series Teen Titans, in which three giant robotic worms attach lengthwise to each other and spin in the same fashion over Titans Tower. So similar, in fact, that I find it unlikely it's just a coincidence. Before I go add it to the Outside References section, though, does anyone else think this is worth mentioning?--ChurchPunk 3:13 AM, August 16, 2007 (EST)

Being quite a fan of Teen Titans in general, and season 2 especially, I don't think so. I don't really see the resemblance.
For anyone curious, here is a picture of the robo-worm individually, and here they are circling. --DorianGray 08:10, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Umm, i get 403'D when i try to view those... — Defender1031*Talk 13:41, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Weird, I get 404'd...Does Toon Zone exist anymore? DEI DAT VMdatvm center\super contra 13:46, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /tt/reviews/titanrising/12.jpg on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
This is what I see. — Defender1031*Talk 13:57, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Same with me. Did you check on the URL before you posted the link, or can you visit the page without being 404'd, Dorian? Homestar-Winner (talk) 14:22, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Regardless of the picture, I would say that the worms from TT and The Worm biting it's own tail are both references to Ouroboros, which is already covered in the article. It would be like adding the fact that "a snake biting its tail from the other side" is a line from "I Palindrome I" by They Might Be Giants. They are all coming from a common point, so are tangental at best. wbwolf (t | ed) 14:40, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
They worked the first time. You can also trick it by copying the URLs, not clicking the links. The pictures are fine, the site is fine. --DorianGray 18:15, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
The best way i've found to get around links like that is - after you've clicked it, drag the url into your google bar. it searches it and brings u to it all in one step -JamesDean 22:39, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Okay, got it. No. after all that i don't think it has anything to do with it. — Defender1031*Talk 22:41, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Teleportation

When Strong Bad and The Cheat are trying to teleport back out of Sweet Puttin' Cakes, they scrunch up their faces in expressions of concentration. To me this appears exactly like Hiro Nakamura from Heroes when he is teleporting. However, this may just be because I've been on a Heroes binge this week, so I thought I'd see if anyone else thought the same thing, and whether it's worth mentioning in the Fun Facts. Comments? Cheers, 82.0.221.164 22:39, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

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