Editing Talk:magic trick

== Strong Sad dying ==

Would the illusion Strong Sad having his head fall off count as an instance of his imagined death? [[User:Shadoman|Shadoman]] 13:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:I think it would count for at least an instance of Strong Sad's servered head.--[[User:Silent|Silent]] 13:59, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
::It is however an occurrence of two of the same characters, that should be mentioned.  EDIT: I added it - {{User:Wecannotbesaved/sig}} 23:12, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:::It's an illusion, not duplicate characters. And severed head it is, not death. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:31, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Who's to say the rest aren't illusions? - {{User:Wecannotbesaved/sig}} 02:05, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::To say that they ARE is baseless speculation. Here it is made quite clear. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:47, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

== Seventeen for free? ==

Am I just seeing things? Or did the soap box read "sixteen for free" early in the morning this was released? {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 14:09, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== Is this worth mentioning? ==

*Traditionally, the suit icons of playing cards are oriented such that half of them are right side up from any portrait-style orientation of the card. Strong Bad's "4 my butt" card has all its icons in the same orientation.
Probably should be reworded a bit. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 14:21, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
**Done and done, Frasier. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 23:29, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

== Again with Strong Sad ==

Look carefully at Strong Sad's soolnds. He's gone back to an older design! (they're farther apart and don't have swirls) [[User:Shadoman|Shadoman]] 14:37, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:SS's soolnds were also like this in the previous email as well. If a remark is made it should be on that email's page. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 14:50, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== What's Homestar saying? ==
And sorry to go off-topic, but what's Homestar saying? I was trying to write up the transcript, but I can't understand what he's saying after Strong Bad's bragging rights about the "Devil's Crapper". [[User:Shadoman|Shadoman]] 14:42, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:He says "Hate to burst your bubble, man" {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 14:43, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== Uhh... ==

Shouldn't there be a transcript by now? {{User:Neox/sig}} 14:54, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:Someone, needs to volunteer to work on it first. You can write it if you want. {{User:Peter222/sig}} 14:56, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
::[[User:Shadoman|Shadoman]] is working on it (I think). Read above. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 14:58, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:::OK, the transcript's done. There may be a couple of errors, but hopefully it'll be fine. It's my first transcript anyway. [[User:Shadoman|Shadoman]] 15:16, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== ] goof ==
This is off topic, yet somehow related to this email... When Strong Bad clears the screen after his marriage comment, the "]" flies off the Lappy and up the wall! This is an obvious goof. I'd put it up on the article myself, but I don't know just how to word it the right way... better than the way I just did. {{User:Neox/sig}} 15:07, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:I put up a picture of the wall bracket goof, so people will be able to know what's meant anyway, but a better description would of course be welcome. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 15:56, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== No "Email" In Email Song ==

Shouldn't we mention that Strong Bad doesn't say "email" in his email song? It's been a while since that happened, too...
:I don't think it's notable. There's no rule that says he has to... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:36, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
::In fact, here's a list of emails with intros that don't contain the word "email" or "sbemail" or something of the sort:
::*[[studying]]
::*[[tape-leg]]
::*[[spring cleaning]]
::*[[sb_email 22]]
::*[[1 step ahead]]
::*[[sisters]]
::*[[property of ones]]
::*[[invisibility]]
::*[[action figure]]
::*[[ghosts]]
::*[[english paper]]
::*[[anything]]
::*[[date]]
::*[[2 years]]
::*[[couch patch]]
::*[[army]]
::*[[theme park]]
::*[[for kids]]
::*[[pizzaz]]
::*[[part-time job]]
::*[[what I want]]
::*[[magic trick]]
::All in all, not very rare. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:50, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Well that's 11.1 percent of the time where he doesn't mention email or sbemail in the song.  I'd say that it's borderline rare, and maybe, if the sbemails were retired it might be worth mentioning.  But in the present, as the number of mentions could increase or decrease, there's no sense mentioning this.  --[[User:O98-111-114-113|O98-111-114-113]] 16:28, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Not all that rare. 11% is still 11% of almost 200. I say, don't mention it. Oh, and I personally doubt that the number of mentions will decrease. The percentage might, but not the number. ;) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:48, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

== Illlllluuuuuuusion? ==

There has been some debate over whether the ending can be considered an instance of duplicate characters. Does it count? [[User:Sarette|Sarette]] 23:36, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:Strong Mad's [[hiding]] place doesn't count because it's not actually a duplicate character. Neither is this. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:37, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
::I was wondering about this one myself when I saw the reverts going on. I had to go check the article to be sure. It seems to me the article on duplicate characters includes only cases where there's clearly two of the same character, not some fake version plus the real, so it seems this is not an example. Though how SS managed such a realistic version is hard to figure out... {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:59, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:::I still say Strong Mad in hiding counts. Here? Not so sure; we KNOW (with context) that the alternate SS is fake. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:03, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

== Is *this* your card? ==

I think this may be a real-world reference to a trick Penn & Teller used to do on their home videos.  You'd trick your friend into "randomly" picking a certain card, and then pretend to get the trick wrong by guessing another one.  Then you'd sit down to watch TV (actually P&T's videotape) when a news anchor would break off in the middle of her broadcast to say, "By the way, IS THIS YOUR CARD?" holding up the card they took in the first place.  The way SB delivered the line and held the card right up to the 'camera' is *very* much like the P&T version of the trick.
: It's too general. Lots of people that do card tricks say "Is ''this'' your card?" --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:04, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::agreed.  P&T say it as a parody of third-rate magicians.  If it were a P&T reference, it would be the three of clubs (the card P&T always "randomly" pick) or at least the three of butts. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 02:09, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

== Harry Potter ==

''In the Easter Egg, D N'D Greg mentions Mandrake Powder. Mandrake is actually a real plant and is not exclusive to the fictional Harry Potter Universe.''

This is a good example of a bad fact. Mention what Mandrake IS. Don't say what it is NOT. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:11, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
: And just as I'm about to try to fix it, someone else removes the fact. Go figure. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:12, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::I fixed it! {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 16:15, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

== Buddy? ==

I'm pretty sure I can definitely hear the word friend. If you listen closely at the saw part, you can definitely hear an "f" sound at the beginning. ~ [[User:MBD123|MBD123]]

== Homestar's body ==

When Strong Bad is about to saw Homestar's "arms" [He]is in a box to hold the arms. Would this qualify as a cardboard box inside reference? ~ [[SonicKB]]

== DnD Greg's Parent(s) ==

:In the Easter Egg, DnD Greg says "parent's" in both written and spoken forms, implying that the basement belongs to only one parent.[[User:Mesmerickiwi|Mesmerickiwi]]

: I didn't notice that. [[User:Chipwich|Chipwich]]
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 ::::Who's to say the rest aren't illusions? - {{User:Wecannotbesaved/sig}} 02:05, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 :::::To say that they ARE is baseless speculation. Here it is made quite clear. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:47, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
-::::::Regardless of whether the other instances were supposed to be magic tricks by the characters, they still are all instances of a character appearing twice in the same frame that cannot easily be explained.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 22:54, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 == Seventeen for free? ==
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 : I didn't notice that. [[User:Chipwich|Chipwich]]
-== Coincidence? ==
-The outtake ("And I'm like, 'You just jingled a bunch of jangle in my face and called it magic!'") could be a reference to the lyric "Can you hear the jingle jangle sound" from the song "Money By the Pound", which is from the Disney movie "Pete's Dragon". Though this might be a coincidence. --D-Boy Wheeler
-:"Jingle jangle" is a pretty common onomatopoeia... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:01, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
-: It could just as easily be a reference to the Bee Gees' "Jingle Jangle," Hot Hot Heat's "Jingle Jangle," the Archies' "Jingle Jangle," Gene Autry's "Jingle Jangle Jingle," Bobby Darin's "Jingle Jangle Jungle," the phrase "jingle jangle morning" in Dylan's "Mr. Tambourine Man," the CNN.com article "The jingle-jangle daylight of the Byrds"...
-== La-la-la-la... ==
-Just a thought here, but could S.S.'s line about il-l-l-l-lusions be a reference to when Strong Bad says "La-la-la-la-la-la" several times in [[retirement]]? They sound very similar to me...
-== Typing Noise ==
-There is a goof in the article as "When Strong Bad is displaying the types of magic, what he describes about them is on the Lappy, however no typing noise is heard." Hasn't this happened in numerous SBEmails ([[video games]] is an example)? Why is it mentioned here and no where else? I think we're supposed to assume that he's typing all the things he narrates while in his imagination anyway. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 14:23, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
-== David Blaine? ==
-Could DeFender come in here and comment on removing the David Blaine reference?  I can understand if "Vertigo" is too specific, but Blaine himself was up there before I edited it (and, let's face it, he's the patron saint of doing stupid stuff to oneself.) -- [[User:TJDevil02|TJDevil02]]
-:Sure. There are plenty of endurance artists other than blaine. I would be comfortable with a reword saying that it's a parody of endurace artists ''such as'' blaine. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:22, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
-::So it shall be written, so it shall be done.  [[User:TJDevil02|TJDevil02]]
-== pay the audience? ==
-i went on a cruise and the magicion threw some money in the audience and sayed that he dissapeared! so fake!
-== commentary ==
-I'ma gonna do the commentary for you. No questions asked! {{User:Nihaho13/sig}} 17:10, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
-:Some time I'll do the commentary... maybe even this weekend... because my computer $#^!#^% sucks... but don't beat me to it! {{User:Nihaho13/sig}} 20:21, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
-== Outback Steakhouse reference ==
-I think Coach Z's like "Dark Fungus From Downungus" is a reference to Outback Steakhouse's famous dessert "Chocolate Thunder From Down Under" [[User:Pgj1997|Pgj1997]] 00:52, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
-:[[Wikipedia:Down Under|"Down Under"]] is a nickname for Australia and New Zealand.  I mention this only since TBC used a location-based joke for Coach Z's easter egg.  So no.  No Outback Steakhouse reference here since "X from Down Under" predates Outback Steakhouse.  &mdash; [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:53, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
-::It's specifically a play on the phrase "Thunder from Down Under", which seems too ubiquitous to pin to one source. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.4.6|132.183.4.6]] 23:15, 26 April 2011 (UTC)