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DS?

What do you suppose Homestar's marking as "ds" means? I can think of one that's not family friendly, but other options? - Qermaq - (^T/C)  19:23, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

My guess is on Dumb Star, or something like that. He previously called Homestar that in an email, I think, but I am not sure. Rogue Leader / (my talk) 19:25, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm guessing it's a reference to the Nintendo DS. It has been shown again and again that TBC are Nintendo fans. At least, the DS was what I first thought of when I saw that. My two cents. Alcnolien Has Spoken! 20:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

It's almost certainly "duckshirt." That's pretty much a synonym for Homestar, and in flashback, SB uses "Duckshirt" as Homestar's name. LitigationMattson 20:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I concur: Duckshirt is the answer. Ilko Skevüld's Teh C 14:53, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Yea, I'd have to say duck shirt, it fits better than the other options. Vash Lupin VI 20:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I think dumbstar makes more sense, because duck shirt is only in flashback, and it's a specific refrence to homestar wearing a duck shirt. Granted, dumbstar has only been said once as well, but it seems to more universally cover Homestar in general.--208.54.15.129 01:04, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Maybe it's just the "sb" on the Strong Bad cutout mirrored. The Spainish Inquisition

If that's the case then the "s" would be backwards.

When I first saw it, it seemed like the "ds" was just a (poor) phonetic spelling of "this". He IS saying that as he cycles through the images. Not everything needs to be a reference! :P This simply seems like a bit of overthinking to me. 16:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, not everything needs to be a reference, but all the other labels are names or nicknames. It's not overthinking if things like it are obviously references.So makey outy 23:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Dosent DS mean Dip Sh**? I remember that from my elemntary school years.--ChrisF talk 12:17, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I personally thought Nintendo DS. But duck shirt seems like the best choice. Foxtrotblues 23:09, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, when I saw it I was like "Oh, Dual Screen" but then, why would they do that? I think it's agreed that it stands for duckshirt » c u t e p e t s r u s « ^T/_C 01:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Fact is, it's all speculation. Unless they reveal something in the future, this will never be Fun Fact material. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  01:25, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Baseball reference

Strongsad's Easteregg mentioning Baseball could be a reference to the MLB Trade Deadline (which ends in 20 minutes)

Doubtful - TGS11 had a baseball ref too. I think TBC just like baseball. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  19:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Sticklyman's Return!

No running, no diving, and no swimming; All represented by the pudding-shoveler himself! --207.69.139.8 19:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Ah, but are you sure it's Sticlyman? Does he have a shovel? Is he into light fighting? Or maybe he's just the typical guy-on-a-sign stick man. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  20:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I hate you. My hopes and dreams rise up and you cruelly shoot them down with your harsh words. I will have my revenge, jerk! --207.69.139.8 20:22, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

That was kind'a rude, Qermac, but I suspect a block-in-progress, Mr. IP Stongbah ^Preeow! 21:01, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

There was nothing rude about what Qermaq said. He was just making the facts obvious. Loafing 21:44, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

In a somewhat funny way too. I don't think it's sticklyman. Although I'd like to see him return for another challeeeeenge one day!-- »Bleed0range« 06:31, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Don't block the IP. It's real hard to express sarcasm on the 'net; it might have been a sarcastic remark. On that note, I think Stinkoman killed Sticklyman. -- - Foxtrotblues 23:15, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

no clicky on the lappy

when you click the lappy's screen, the pressure waves don't show up.

Sure they do. I just did it. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  20:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

They don't show up after Strong Bad falls through the roof. --Ragey 22:41, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Up, A, and Start

Does this reference any particular video game? If it were just Up+A, I'd be sure it was a reference to Metroid or both Legend of Zelda games on the NES (using that code on a second controller would save your progress and restart) but I can't think of any games that used Up+A and Start. -- Frickinsellout 20:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

You are almost certainly right. In fact, the Up+A on the second controller trick only works when you have paused (pressed start) on the first controller. I'm going to add it to the real-world references section. Trey56 20:58, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it refers to any video game, he's just making up a cheat code. Swimma Dan 22:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Swimma Dan. The Metroid and Zelda references don't make sense because you have to press Start before hand. That's not Up, A, Start, that's Start, A, Up. And if we're going to accept Kirby's Dream Land, where it's Up, A, Select, then are we going to accept codes that go Up, B, Start, or Down, A, Start, or A, Up, Start? Unless someone can find a game code that goes exactly "Up, A, Start", I think this should be changed to a more general reference about video game codes. 70.224.249.166 00:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, I figured it was just a generic cheat code thing, not a reference to a specific game. The Zelda reference might make sense, but I think the Kirby one is really stretching it (it's not even the same code!). As for the Metroid thing, I'm probably going to make myself sound really stupid here, but didn't Metroid use passwords, not save files? At least the US version did. - Saturn 01:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Metroid did use passwords, Mr. Saturn. However, if you paused and hit Up+A on Controller 2, you would get brought to the password screen, and you can restart the game from there. I've seen this trick in the various tool-assisted speedruns of the game. -- Frickinsellout 04:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I'd have to agree with the Generic Game Code people. We could make a poll though » c u t e p e t s r u s « ^T/_C 12:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Another point in favor of a reference to the Zelda games and Metroid is that it fits the context. In the games, you would want to save your progress using this trick before you went in to a dungeon or some place where you might die. In the toon, Strong Bad urges swimmers who have just eaten to do this before they reenter the pool, presumably so that if they died they could start again from the point right before entering the pool. If I'm not mistaken, that's part of the joke SB's making. Trey56 19:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

"If they died they could start again"? I don't see that at all. To me, it sounds like he's just adding something ridiculous onto a list of other ridiculous things. I agree that if TBC were referencing those games, they would have said "Start, A, Up." I think it's just general. So makey outy 23:18, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, I think there's enough of a consensus here to remove the fact in question. Oh well :) Trey56 23:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

There is a button combo in the original Kirby for GB that unlocked the "hard mode". It was Up+A+SELECT and not start, but maybe this is what some people are thinking. I thought that at first, but it has been so long since I played the game that I forgot it. I don't think they had a specific game in mind when they wrote that. —NFITC1^talk

Long Pants?

Is it me, or is Homestar wearing his 'long pants' in the 'ool? (~InvaderJem)

According the Strongbad, he doesn't have long pants. » c u t e p e t s r u s « ^T/_C 12:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

True, but that's why I put quote-marks. Homestar insists that he wears long pants, though...

What are you getting at? » c u t e p e t s r u s « ^T/_C 20:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Since his "long pants" are really just his bare skin, what else would he be wearing in the pool? It's not like he can take that off. --H-ko 21:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I guess that's true.

Yeah, do you take off your leg skin when you go swimming? And if so, are you some kind of robot? And if so, do you use your powers for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces? I just happen to be the greatest criminal mind of our time. -Chupaqueso 01:32, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Pooling

How about the fact that the "pool" had been previously mentioned here [1]

I think that might pass off as a fun fact. Nice find, there! (~InvaderJem)

See Swimming Pool. Loafing 21:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

It seems more likely to be the pool from A Jumping Jack Contest.

Was there not also a pool mentioned in other days, when Strong Bad had swim practice? Apparently he's finished them as well as lifeguard training since then. So makey outy 23:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

other days doesn't directly mention a pool, but where else would Strong Bad and Strong Sad have swim practice?The Spainish Inquisition

They had a pool back in A Jumping Jack Contest and Theme Song Video. 75.22.195.241 02:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

The Color Pallette in the backdrop of the 'ool is similar to the older cartoons, too. - Foxtrotblues 23:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Color palette? Huh? Anyway, Swimming Pool mentions all the above. That's the place for pool sightings. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  23:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Mr. Chek(h)ov

I'm pretty sure this is a double reference to both the writer and the Star Trek character. Yeah, they're spelled differently, but who ever calls Anton Chekhov "Mr. Chekhov"? However, Kirk did call his Chekov "Mr." all the time...

It's not going to be TTATOT. If they were referencing Star Trek, they'd have spelled it Chekov. They didn't, so I doubt it's a ST reference at all, especially as Chekhov is even more famous. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  02:03, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Not only that, but Anoton Chekhov is someone Strong Sad would be reading. It's Strong Sad. I mean, come on.— Bassbone (^{TALK CONT}) 07:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes. Obviously, Strong Sad would read Chekhov. So it's a reference to the author. But nobody calls Anton Chekhov "Mr.". That is obviously (I think) a reference to the Star Trek character. It's a joke. And I think that it's worth putting in the explanation because many people won't know what it's about.  Loafing 09:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I removed the Chekov reference based on points above. It's this, that and the other thing if it's a reference to both. And it's spelled like the author, not the navigator, so it's clear which was being referenced. Now, IF "Mr. Chekov" is included, I can live with it, but not without. Otherwise it's like saying that Monkey D is a reference to Sunny D, Tenacious D and Sandra Dee. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  09:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC) (Add: And by "living with it" I am saying I still don't agree, but can let it go. But we're a bit too generous in claiming what's a reference around here. Without an explanation of why "Mr. Chechov" might be referring to a guy with a differently-spelled name, it seems out of place and random, and reduces the knowledge-base-ness of the page.)

Nice, we were working on it at the same time... I reckon "Mr. Checkov" is simply such an iconic name that "Mr. Chekhov" is an obvious reference for someone who knows Star Trek. And there have been made enough ST references by TBC that I believe they do know ST.  Loafing 09:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Yup; sorry Qermaq, but I gotta disagree with you on this one. If it's not a reference, it's a goof, and I'd like to think they know how to spell it. Plus, suppose they were simply thinking of Chekhov, and Chekov never entered their minds; why choose the "Mr." title? It's a strange choice for an anthology or biography. And it would be a stranger coincidence for it to mirror the Star Trek usage accidentally. —AbdiViklas 16:35, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Nah, I don't think this is a goof. Chekhov sounds like the kind of stuff that Strong Sad was reading. He doesn't strike me as the type who reads Star Trek anthologies. Anyway, the way the fact is written now, everybody can make up their own mind.  Loafing 20:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

You guys are all forgetting that this is a funny cartoon. It's a joke. Strong Sad was reading Anton Checkhov, but the brothers, in Strong Bad-style humor, added "Mr." to the front of it, referring to Pavel Chekov, more or less to make fun of the author and/or Strong Sad. I mean, couldn't you totally see Strong Bad making fun of someone's name in this way?--208.54.15.129 01:17, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

What does Strong Bad's sense of humor have to do with Strong Sad's choice of reading material? - Qermaq - (^T/C)  01:25, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Because Strong Bad's sense of humor and TBC's sense of humor are pretty much one in the same. I'm just saying, Strong Bad is always making fun of peoples names, and intentionally crossing Chekov with Checkhov seems like something he would do, right? Well, TBC are the ones that come up with all the jokes, so it's not unlikely that they would put just such a joke on the cover of that book.--24.107.30.56 20:30, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Progressive progress

Is anyone still currently working on the transcript? When I stopped, I took the "inprogress" template off... If whoever's working on it now is going really slowly, that's one thing, but it's kinda rude to leave the template there and just stop. --Jay (Talk) 21:56, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

The school aways had an elevator!

Is anyone else thinking that this particular line might be a reference to Saved by the Bell? Specifically, that time the school suddenly had an elevator for Zack to deliver Mr. Belding's son in? - 81.157.53.124 21:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

--I think it is a refrence to that, and many other TV shows where the charecters go to a second floor, basement, pool, etc.

Or, maybe it was like my school, where there was no elevator, and there was no swimming pool, but all the freshman were sold swimming pool passes and elevator passes by the upperclassmen.

It makes more sense that it was the Saved by the Bell episode, because it's referring to how their cartoon and the TV show suddenly and conveniently had something that was never obviously there before for sake of the plot.-- »Bleed0range« 06:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

However: they have always had this pool. Since one of the very first animated toons. So the analogy doesn't really apply, does it? - Qermaq - (^T/C)  09:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, that's true. I'd say maybe TBC forgot, but if you go to the flash file for Theme Song Video and look at how they did the water effect, it looks like the same piece makes up the wavy top of the water in both toons. *shrug* It makes more sense the way I said it. lol. I'm not really sure on this.-- »Bleed0range« 18:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Someone, perhaps anonymous above, added a Fun Fact linkin SB's line to a supposedly common prank by upperclassmen of making freshmen believe in nonexistant pools or elevators. I left it alone simply because I can't think of another way to make sense of his line, but at the moment it's a purely anecdotal Fun Fact. If it's going to stay, it would be nice to have some kind of documentation showing that this has happened to more than one person. —AbdiViklas 16:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

When I saw it, I immediately thought of Saved By The Bell. I've been watching the sbemails for a long time, and I hadn't remembered the pool. Even if they remembered that it was there, the average viewer has never heard of them having a pool, so for SB to say that the pool's always there and they use it all the time seems on par with suddenly announcing Bayside had an elevator, and it's been there all along and people use it all the time.

I, for one, have heard of this prank as far back as sixteen years ago, and when I first heard it in junior high it was presented as something that had been making the rounds for quite a while. When we got to high school, we always joked about how the gag didn't exactly work there (because that building did in fact have an elevator, albeit not one open to normal student use). — It's dot com 17:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Whether or not the prank exists, I don't think it could be a reference to that. Clearly, Strong Bad isn't pranking anyone--the pool does exist. He isn't selling pool items or fooling people. I never watched Saved by the Bell that much, but I immediately recognized what he was making fun of: places or things suddenly appearing conveniently, which happens as often in the Homestarrunner universe as anywhere. So makey outy 23:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

At my school, we had a freight elevator I used to move my drums downstairs, and the upperclassmen convinced me there was a snake pit under there. Oh, and on the subject, I thought that was Strong Bad's pool in A Jumping Jack Contest. - Foxtrotblues 23:22, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

As I said, I really don't think it's a reference to that whether or not the prank exists. And if it is, it shouldn't be in "Remarks." Are there any objections to removing the fact or at least stuffing it? So makey outy 23:33, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

You should make that fact a splode. - Foxtrotblues 23:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

The SbtB reference is probably not far-fetched. However, since I hate that show (and practically everything that came out of the 80's now) it was not the first thing that came to my mind. I've always heard of the prank and knew a few people that fell for it and some that did it when they were upper-classmen. Perhaps a FF mentioning both possibile origins of the joke is in order. —NFITC1^talk 03:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Folks: The Pool has been there forever. We have not seen it for 5 years. If the Marshmallow Shop shows up next week, we won't be talking about it appearing out of nowhere. Please see Swimming Pool for more. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  23:58, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Einstein and Muffled?

STRONG BAD: So later on anybody wanna get together a game of "Sharks and Minnows"? "Einstein and [muffled]"? "Pregnant and seventeen"?

It seems to me that Strong Bad says "Einstein and Kreskin," likely a refrence to The Amazing Kreskin. I'll refrain from changing the article untile there's a consensus. 216.229.35.170 23:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, someone just made the edit. Nevermind.216.229.35.170 23:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Second reference to pregnant teenagers, with the Cheat Commando's setting precedence?

Sorry, I removed that. Noting the first instance of something is sometimes, conceivably, worthwhile. Noting the second and third and so on gets hard. (Plus, I think "seventeen" was a reference to the magazine, though I haven't found a "Pregnant" magazine.) —AbdiViklas 16:43, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I fail to see how you infer a Seventeen magazine reference here. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  23:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Inflated The Cheat

In regards to the Inside Reference of the Helium email, I'm not certain the cheat is actually inflated, from what I can tell he just seems to be leaning back (or tilting his head up) -Template:Tempestryder

 ---He is neither inflated nor lying on his back.  I present you with this image.

cessna man!

I find myself to be skeptical as well. —BazookaJoe 05:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, he sure looks inflated to me... Perhaps not quite in the same way, but much rounder in some way. --DorianGray

The cheat is a pudge like thing. He has no feet, it kind of just has skin folds near the bottom of him. In order to swim forward, a normal person would need to kick their feet... apparently the cheat leans his bottom half backward and it causes a bend in him, making him look puffed up. He uses his arms to paddle. This also makes him look kind of like a boat. Regardless, I don't think he is inflated at all.-- »Bleed0range« 06:28, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Claiming he's inflated is pure speculation. He could easily be arching his body to propel himself across the water's surface. We really don't know anything about his physiology to assume he can or cannot inflate. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  09:15, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

He looks like a duck. -- Super Martyo boing! 10:53, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

He's obviously lying on his stomache lifting his head up. Salty^Talk! 17:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Since most of us seem to be in agreement, should the inside reference to Helium made on the article page be removed? --User:Tempestryder

I'd say yes, from the looks of it. --DorianGray

I'd say he's a speedboat, or a hydro. Especially because of the sound effects. -- Super Martyo boing! 04:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

now i really really want a the cheat... csours 05:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

He looks poofier, but it could be an artist's error (no offesnse TBC). To see examples of artist errors, watch the first episode of Family Guy. Brian's Head keeps changing shape. It's probably just the difficulty of drawing him in this position. - Foxtrotblues 23:26, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

(sigh) There's no error, I'm sure. To me, The Cheat is arched back, paddling away, making motorboat sounds. Sometimes it's as simple as it looks. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  00:00, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Funny and true

It has been hot in Sunnyvale, Ca. I know this because I live there. Unfortunately, I didn't write this one, but I'm glad Strong Bad knows about it. -JesseLangham

Yeah, it's been hot in St. Louis, too. It's been constantly in the triple digits. I sent SB an e-mail 'bout it, but I guess it just didn't cut it. Hey, did your power go out? Mine was out for 5 days.» c u t e p e t s r u s « ^T/_C 12:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

No, thank god. Of course, we dont have AC, so it wouldnt have made difference, coolness wise. But at least our food didnt cook in the fridge. That blackout must have sucked! -JesseLangham Aug. 01, 19:51:15 UTC

Yeah, it did. And I just heard that more people in my area who already had their power out for numerous days are going out again- electric company says it's because of the heat. » c u t e p e t s r u s « ^T/_C 12:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

guess what! its hot in texas. everybody here is like: "So What?" its always 100 degrees. and we still go to work, outside, in the sun. uphill. both ways. my sympathy truly goes out to the families who have lost ppl. but seriously guys. csours 05:17, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Guess what? It's always hot in Texas. If we lived in Texas, we'd be like "So what?" too. But we don't. And we think it's hot. I'm sorry about the hills. » c u t e p e t s r u s « ^T/_C 12:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, we know it's hot in Texas. That's why we don't live there. -JesseLangham Aug. 02, 19:09:45 UTC

It's so hot in Chicago! I'd go complain about it but I don't know what to write... - Foxtrotblues 23:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Heat wave

no doubt about th heat wav. I mean, even in Seattle it's boiling hot! -- Super Martyo boing! 06:14, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

In Michigan, my city had a low temperature of 81 degrees F (27 degrees C) this morning. That's a record high minimum temperature. At eleven o'clock last night, it still felt like (heat index) 100 F (38 C). And that's not the worst of it. Ask the people from St. Louis and central Illinois how hot it is. —BazookaJoe 12:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I live in St. Louis and was getting up in the triple digits pretty much all of last week. » c u t e p e t s r u s « ^T/_C 12:54, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Most of the north SF Bay Area was up in the 110s last weekend (I think the high in my city was 115?). Plus, traffic was terrible as a lot of lights were out. It was awful trying to get around in a car without a/c. Imagine our relief when the heat wave started going down--"Yes! It's in the high 90s!!!!" So makey outy 16:39, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

You got that right. Here in NC, summer is hard enough normally, but this summer is crazy. It's still in the 80s at 9PM.--Jnelson09 01:33, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I live on the outskirts of Seattle, and the heat wave has (at least for now) passed around here. It dropped to the 60s or low 70s (normal for summer in this area) last weekend. --Jay (Talk) 19:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

This discussion might be better suited to the forum. I'll leave this here as it displays the meteorogical significance of this toon, but let's move future weather-related discussion to the forum, please. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  00:03, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Ool, not Pool

After Homestar crashes through Strong Bad's roof. He says "Uh, Strong Bad, I think that total wave ruined your ool." That's "Ool" not "Pool" as the transcript currently reads. This is in reference to the "There is no P in our pool, please keep it that way" Sign referenced in the toon. -JesseLangham

You could have just updated the transcript yourself and explained your reasoning in the summary... --Jay (Talk) 00:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

....oh yeah...duh... Thanks!

i think he says "that toadal wave ruined your ool... csours 05:11, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

It's hard to tell with his lisp. He's not known for pronouncing his Ts. I think "Total" works better anyway. -JesseLangham Aug. 02, 19:10:58 UTC

Goofs - The parenthesis

Are you guys sure this is a goof? When i first watched it I took it as an apostrophe. Ie: for the marking of a missing letter --ME!

I'm confused, so I'll elaborate on what we're talking about: it's the ( right before "Notice." There is an apostrophe on the sign for comparison, i.e. in 'ool. —BazookaJoe 04:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Ahhh dont mind me then, your right i was wrong. I thought it meant the apostrophe in 'ool :D

Marzi's green hair

Any chance that her green hair is a reference to Diff'rent Strokes? There was an ep where Kimberly washed her hair using acid rain water (which contained lots of chemicals, like the 'ool) and the result was her hair turned green. Mike 06:25, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Was I the only one reminded of that Falling Sand java game? The "plant" sand is green and burns away like Marzi's hair.

According from a few posts in the forum, it's apparently a somewhat common real-world occurance for blondes to have their hair turn green from pool chemicals.

I don't think it's a reference to any particular TV show. My wife has very thin, natural blond hair, and when she was young and at the pool all the time, her hair would turn very green. It's a reaction to the chlorine in the water. So, it's not a problem limited to dyed blonds as the article currently states.--eepiccolo 15:20, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I admit it, I was reaching. ;) Mike 04:39, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I have naturally blonde hair, and my hair turns a slight greenish tint when I've been in a pool with chlorine. It's a natural occurance. And it washes out. --S

Nu-uh! Still the third wall!

The article currently states that when Strong Bad explains what Strongbadia is and is not, it is one of the most abrupt fourth wall breaks to date. There was a discussion over a similar incident a while back in the talk page for "mile". Basically, the Strong Bad emails are based on the premise that he is answering his emails for an audience. I honestly don't care that much about the consistency, but these are the kinds of things the wiki loves to bicker over.--Bobo the King 16:10, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Yup. That's why I removed it. Even if it were a break, it's certainly not "one of the most abrupt to date", but it's not. What we're seeing qualifies as Strong Bad's imagination--characters aren't really blank spaces--and simply pointing out which location is Strong Badia and which are not... I have no idea how that's supposed to be a break. —AbdiViklas 17:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I put it back. When I originally wrote it, I admitted it could be reworded, so if you see a way to fix it up then feel free. The break is not the part where we see the character cutouts. The break is the part where Strong Bad freezes the supposedly live "webcast", takes us on a trip around FCUSA, offers us a high five, and then restarts the action. Essentially he is speaking directly for TBC and addressing the real viewers—you and me—about an apparently common misconception outside the continuity of the actual email. — It's dot com 17:44, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Just wondering--where is it ever stated that sbemails are live? So makey outy 23:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

You do have a point there — in Weclome Back, Strong Bad was attempting to record a sbemail with a video camera. Nevertheless, that one uncharacteristically had "REC" and a flashing dot in the corner of the screen. Trey56 23:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Other instances include The Cheat's watching huttah on his computer. But never mind the "live" bit; it's secondary to my point. My point is that TBC, using Strong Bad, brought the email to a complete halt and directly addressed the fans in order to clear up something a lot of fans no doubt get wrong. It's also noteworthy that the little digression was not brought up in the rest of the email. — It's dot com 23:47, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I thought that Strong Bad pointed out what Strong Badia was because he wanted to trick people into thinking that the pool is in Strong Badia. "In the pool that we've always had... that we use all the time..." reinforces this. This is beside the point of whether or not it's a FWB. —BazookaJoe 23:56, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

"Third wall"... there's a term I've never heard used before... --Jay (Talk) 23:50, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

While I accept that you may be joking there: breaking the fourth wall comes from the thought that the front of the stage in a theater represents a wall of whatever room is portrayed on the set, so by breaking that wall it allows the characters to see (and interact with) the audience. (I have also heard it said that the first wall is letting the characters know the script, 2nd is awareness that thy are in a play, 3rd is ability to change anything based on these, and 4th is audience involvement, but i dont accept this) -- The annony formerly known as DumbMuscle (sister's compy due to technical problems)

I know what "breaking the fourth wall" means. My comment was directed at the title of this topic ("Still the third wall!") So... Strong Bad's breaking the third wall or something? (As a note, I have never heard of the "first wall is letting the characters know the script" etc. thing before and think that whoever told it to you made it up.) --Jay (Talk) 19:20, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Sou' Sou'west or South Southwest?

In the second Easter Eggs, Strong Sad clearly says "sou' sou'west" instead of "south southwest". Is this a reference to something? I recall similar pronounciations for compass points in the movie "Master and Commander", is it old British Navy jargon? At any rate, I changed the transcript (without explaination, my bad) to reflect this contraction but it was reverted, so I figured I'd start a discussion topic on it.--Adrock 20:20, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it's an intentional reference as much as just how it's said in that dialect Vash Lupin VI 20:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't know. On one hand, they could be making some kind of joke, or Matt could have just stuttered » c u t e p e t s r u s « ^T/_C 20:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

"South-southwest" is one of the principal points on a compass. Loafing 21:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

The reference is to a NorEaster, which is a typical way of describing a storm that comes in from the NorthEast.

He definitely said sou'sou'west, and yes, this is how mariners talk. among other ways. csours 05:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Loafing's got a point there. » c u t e p e t s r u s « ^T/_C 12:16, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

It's not a reference to anything. Strong Sad is just dropping consonants because he's relaxed/tired. My NOAA weather radio is always telling me winds are south-southwest at 5-10 knots. —BazookaJoe 12:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Gah! To the anonymous poster who "defined" a Nor'Easter, you made this meteorologist cringe! Nor'easters move TO the northeast, and typically have northeast winds on their northwestern side ... they definitely do not move southwestward (or from the northeast) ... Spell4yr 00:53, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Was this changed recently, and I missed the memo? From Wikipedia:Windsock:

Note that wind directions are conventionally specified as being the compass point from which the wind originates; so a windsock pointing due north indicates a southerly wind

This is the way I've always seen it quoted... a nor'easter blows from the northeast, a sou'wester blows from the southwest, and is also a type of sailor's hat. --phlip ^T_C 01:21, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Twin Characters?

Does Strong Bad interrupting himself to explain what Strongbadia is count as an appearance of Twin Characters? Trey56 22:15, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't think so. I think it's a fourth-wall break, discussed above. — It's dot com 23:50, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

From Twin Characters: "where a single character appears more than once in the same scene." That's all the description given. Why can't it be both? So makey outy 03:49, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Usually, in the Twin Characters instances, they tend to react to each other, I think. Strong Bad's pauses the action, coming up in a separate place entirely. --DorianGray

Agree with DG up above. It's a seperate instance of the same character, the original footage is stopped so that he can make a point and resume. They are in fact the same Strong Bad so it is not an instance of twin characters. Maybe the description should be updated so that it makes more sense. I imagine for the twin characters situation to apply they must react to one another or it must be done in a way so that both characters are in the same scene in "real-time." Or in other words, no pausing the action and then resuming like in this toon.-- »Bleed0range« 05:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

yea, not twin characters, post-production. csours 05:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

strong mad-nami

this might be too vague/general/overanalytical for a fun fact, but strong mad jumping into the pool is similar to the action of a tsunami, ie, you dont see the effect in deep water, only when the wave gets to the shallows does the compression lead to a severe rise in water level. just a thought. csours 05:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

It is too overanalytical. But we can make it better:

The way the tidal wave behaves is similar to the behavior of a Tsunami. - Foxtrotblues 23:36, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I'd say its really more of a comic device than any kind of scientific thing. Because first your surprised by such a tiny splash he makes, and then your surprised again after that by the enormous "total wave." It's doubly surprising. --Chupaqueso 01:47, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I think it's just a joke, and requires no reference-related explanation. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  01:53, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Left-handed?

When Strong Bad says "Gimme a high five" he raises his left hand. Could this possibly mean he left-handed. Being right-handed, I find it fairly uncomfortable to high five with my left hand. » c u t e p e t s r u s « ^T/_C 19:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Although I'm personally of the persuasion that TBC just don't bother keeping track, the consensus here is that Strong Bad is ambidextrous (like me!) --Jay (Talk) 19:10, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Being so versatile on the computer, I'd imagine he would be!

- Foxtrotblues 23:40, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

ummm............. 'kay.

Tomby, Dick and harry

Is Strong Bad's spelling of tom B as "Tomby" a reference to the videogame character of the same name? - Grover Junior

No such character, Stu. Perhaps you meant Tomba? --Jay (Talk) 20:02, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Was about to say, ol' Jaycob but you interrupted my edit, although it is spelled 'Tombi' in some versions, hence my mistake - Grover Junior.

Total wave or turtle wave?

What exactly does homestar say at the end of the email? I think he says turtle wave. If he does, then it might a reference to the Kamehameha from Dragonball Z. Thoughts? 66.65.115.218 20:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Definitely "toadal" or phonetically similar. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  23:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

"Reference to the Kamehameha"?! Uh... how? Am I missing something? Anyway, total. --Jay (Talk) 23:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm leaning towards total wave. It just seems more like something that Homestar would say, doesn't it? --Chupaqueso 01:41, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Isn't he trying to say "tidal"? --Grover Junior

Homestar mixing up words

Right now there's an "Inside Reference" that says: "Homestar, as he has done many times, mixes up two words ("total" and "tidal")." Isn't Homestar mixing up words far too common, general and obvious an occurrence to qualify as an Inside Reference? It's not a reference to anything; it's just the way Homestar talks. LitigationMattson 01:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Some foks may say that it's a reference to how he's done that in other cartoons. It's a regular mistake that he's making. » c u t e p e t s r u s « ^T/_C 01:36, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I'd probably say it's more of a running gag than in inside reference. --Chupaqueso 01:42, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I think it's unnotable, myself. It's just Homestar. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  01:54, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

VANDALISM!!!!!

In case you haven't noticed some dork has replaced all the lines from Marzipan's POOL TIME! line to Bubs's "How bout me play keeping Strong Mad away from the diving board for pete 's sake!" with poop. If someone has already noticed this just leave this here for historical record.

Thanks, but for future reference, you could have fixed it yourself. --Jay (Talk) 18:20, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh-oh, what a feelin', we're crashing through the ceiling...

Other than pom pom and keep cool, when has Strong Bad crashed through the ceiling and landed at his computer? - Qermaq - (^T/C)  21:09, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Never. Which is why I reworded the fact. --Jay (Talk) 21:12, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Now gimme how many?

You know, I relistened, and I distinctly hear "five". The "v" is a bit aspirated and not totally voiced (more like an "f"), which creates a sibilance-like hiss which could be misheard as an "s", but it's (to me) definitely not an "s". Hmm? - Qermaq - (^T/C)  23:29, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I can't even hear anything that could be mis-heard for an "s". Been going over it again and again with the seek bar. Loafing 23:36, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Once again Flash is making it sound like there's an "s" when there isn't. I think this is the same problem that also occurs in The Reddest Radish (discuss). And I've been trying to tell people that it's the cause of the cute/shoes problem in disconnected (discuss). I can hear why people think there's an "s", but nobody has backed me up on those. —BazookaJoe 00:10, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

*ahem* I've said it was "cute" all along... - Qermaq - (^T/C)  00:22, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Not that, I mean I haven't had anybody (that I can remember) say that they can also hear and understand it being said both ways. It would have been nice to know that I'm not the only one, but this five/fives deal is confirmation enough for me. —BazookaJoe 00:32, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

More importantly, give me five WHAT?

Okay, I was going to add it myself, then I thought it deserved discussion, since I think it's a bigger issue and I can't find a central location for references to it: Strong Bad says "Gimme five!" but five what? He has no fingers. I think this is a running joke just as much as Strong Bad's lack of nose or various other characters' lack of arms. I'm not sure what page people would tend to think it belongs on, so I've actually started a discussion here.

While there are numerous small references like this, of course it is the main theme of the humor in both the bird and fingers. The only other minor reference I can think of off the top of my head is in guitar.

He's asking the the audience to give him five. So as long as you have five fingers, it's all good. Loafing 00:49, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Press UP, A and START

Isn't that a reference to cheat codes, where you have to enter a button sequence to activate the cheat?

look at STUFF for the video game reference debate. -- Super Martyo boing! 04:08, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Rough Horse

Also, should rough-horsing be explained that it is a play on roughousing? Retromaniac 03:52, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it should be mentioned. -- Super Martyo boing! 04:08, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Disagree. It's so obvious it's insulting to mention it. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  04:15, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

How is that insulting? -- Super Martyo boing! 04:16, 6 August 2006 (UTC) p.s. butt-slapping is a reference to No Bare Buns.

Insulting to the intelligence. I mean, it's so obvious. Horsing aroung, rough-housing = Rough-horsing. This needs no explanation. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  04:23, 6 August 2006 (UTC) (And I don't get it. What is "No Bare Buns"?)

I'd have to agree. It is way too obvious. Sorry man. -Foxtrotblues 18:14, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

No Bare Buns is a common rule meaning no skinny-dipping. The image of butt-slapping is the same as the usual image for that rule. -- Super Martyo boing! 01:23, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Chlorine

Why was the chlorine reference declined? Retromaniac 16:58, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Reasons found here. --Jay (Talk) 17:24, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Floppy Disk

How do you know what the disk says when Homestar's foot is covering it? 209.104.139.221 17:36, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Coach Z's body suit

In this email, Coach Z is seen wearing a barrel. This could be an old reference that might reinforce the thought that he actually has a green colored body, and not just some body suit with hands and feet. Jimmie

Did anyone else notice yesterday

Yesterday the article somehow doubled. I'm just saying someone could've somehow vandilized the page without us knowing. They might try to blank the whole page out next. Be on the lookout. -- Super Martyo boing! 01:21, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Given it was Qermaq that did it, I doubt it was vandalism... probably just a mistake. --phlip ^T_C 01:35, 7 August 2006 (UTC)