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:::It says "such as." That means that it's not saying it's a reference to '''only''' Juno, but just using that particular one as an example. I'm reverting. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 02:46, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:::It says "such as." That means that it's not saying it's a reference to '''only''' Juno, but just using that particular one as an example. I'm reverting. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 02:46, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::::I didn't add the reference to begin with, but changed it back to Juno with explanation after someone else suggested Shortbus.  I think it's probably an actual reference to Juno, especially with the added director comment.  Regardless, if you look at it grammatically, it isn't of the form "Hand-drawn animated opening credit sequences are a reference to hand-drawn animated opening credit sequences," but "Hand-drawn animated opening credit sequences are a reference to films such as Juno."  Maybe it could be re-reworded to indicate that PP's film references Juno, which has a hand-drawn ... and a director who's the son of a famous ....[[Special:Contributions/146.122.71.68|146.122.71.68]] 12:33, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::::I didn't add the reference to begin with, but changed it back to Juno with explanation after someone else suggested Shortbus.  I think it's probably an actual reference to Juno, especially with the added director comment.  Regardless, if you look at it grammatically, it isn't of the form "Hand-drawn animated opening credit sequences are a reference to hand-drawn animated opening credit sequences," but "Hand-drawn animated opening credit sequences are a reference to films such as Juno."  Maybe it could be re-reworded to indicate that PP's film references Juno, which has a hand-drawn ... and a director who's the son of a famous ....[[Special:Contributions/146.122.71.68|146.122.71.68]] 12:33, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
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:::::My point was that if you have to say "such as" then it's not a reference to a specific thing and it shouldn't be mentioned. I have seen this reasoning used to remove items on this wiki before, usually when people couldn't agree on what was being referenced (one that sticks out in my memory was the line "Can I get a witness?" in the [[retirement]]). Now I wasn't the one who changed it to Shortbus, but the fact that someone did sort of proves my point. [[User:LikeAsItself|LikeAsItself]] 02:42, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 
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