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== Vinnie C. and chatter ==
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Does "Keep making fun of something" have to refer part emails? Beacause Strong Bad is ''still'' making fun of others' punctuation and spelling. If there's going to be a full discussion on this, I'll move it to STUFF. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:04, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Does "Keep making fun of something" have to refer part emails? Beacause Strong Bad is ''still'' making fun of others' punctuation and spelling. If there's going to be a full discussion on this, I'll move it to STUFF. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:04, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
:Well, in this email he makes fun of Vinnie's spelling, and he's saying that in future, more jabs of the same are following, so I agree, not really notable. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:14, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
:Well, in this email he makes fun of Vinnie's spelling, and he's saying that in future, more jabs of the same are following, so I agree, not really notable. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:14, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
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== Dial SB For Murder ==
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There has been a bit of back-and-forth on whether SB killed Homsar. I'm seeing a strong argument for both sides of the issue. On the one hand, he was "completely crushed" by a Heavy Lourde, and as such must have been killed; cartoon physics (or, perhaps, metaphysics in this case) is all that allows him to have recovered. On the other hand, one could also use cartoon physics to argue that the Heavy Lourde somehow did not kill him, as it's evident he's quite alive.
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I'm inclined to side with the "not killed" viewpoint. Was Wile E. Coyote killed each time he failed to snag the Road Runner, and was instead crushed/blown up/shattered/etc.? I don't think that's sensible. Anyway, as it's been rv and rv a few times I'd like to see if there's any consensus on this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:38, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
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:We don't have to look at non-TBC toons for examples. For some H*R characters we ''do'' assume that they get killed several times. Of course, the Teen Girl Squad cartoon physics is a bit wilder than the normal H*R one, but so is cartoon physics when it comes to Homsar. I believe we should assume that Homsar was killed here, as this is what the email suggests and what SB refers to when he thanks the email writer.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:10, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
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::On the date this email debuted, I am sure that Homsar was supposed to be dead. Obviously, TBC couldn't kill off Homestar, but because Vinnie made his fateful spelling error, they were free to create and immediately squish a character. Later, they realized there was potential for him, and he miraculously survived. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:35, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
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:::But if he survived, he couldn't have actually been killed! There's the paradox. How do we word the summary to avoid supporting or denying either strong argument? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:40, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
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::::This is what I think: Homsar was killed, but then TBC brought him back, no explanation needed. I mean, it's a cartoon, not a serious 1-hour drama show on some popular TV network. Characters can die and suddenly be perfect in eight seconds. By summary, I assume you mean the summary at the top, well, I think it's perfect. I mean, we can't please every fan, so we probably have to choose one. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 23:50, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
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:::::[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]] implies that Homsar didn't die after being crushed, he just got badly injured. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:34, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
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::::::Think of it this way: in a book, when someone is apparently killed, the characters don't go around saying, "Boo-hoo! My best friend was apparently killed by a cement mixer!" They speak as if the character is dead, whether he is alive later or not. Maybe we could apply the same thing here. We could also just say something that doesn't address whether or not Homsar is killed, like: "SB decides to kill Homsar."-[[User:LordQuackingstick|LordQuackingstick]] 01:16, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
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== Closed STUFF ==
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=== Hey hey, doo-doot doo ===
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{{stufffact|Strong Bad's mouth doesn't move when he says "Doo doo doo."}}
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{{stuffverdict|23:41, 17 April 2007 (UTC)|22:08, 23 April 2007 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|18|2|homsar}}
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== Homsar's Head ==
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* When Homsar turns to face Strong Bad, only his head moves. His body stays put.
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So what? His head could've turned without his whole body moving. In fact, why would he turn all the way around? He's not facing completely the opposite direction. I guess one could argue that he shouldn't be able to move his head since he doesn't appear to have a neck, but if so, it should be stated in there somewhere. --{{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}} 04:55, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
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:Well, it looks bizarre. Especially seeing as how the writing on his shirt continues staying in THAT direction. Picture if it was Homestar. They've never done soemthing like that with him. They always make him turn comepletely around. It's likely just coz it's older (and/or they were lazy). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:59, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
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::But if you turned your head, would the writing on your shirt necessarily turn around? What does it matter if he usually doesn't turn just his head? It's such an infinitesimal piece of information. It's not even interesting. --{{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}} 05:04, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
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:::But it looks bizarre. And if I turned my head 180 degrees, like he does, it might be unusual. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:08, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
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::::I can easily turn my head almost 180 degrees (almost), so I don't know if there's something wrong with your neck or if something is broken up there, but anyway, he doesn't even turn his head 180 degrees. Note that when he's facing the left, both of his eyes are facing forward. When he turns to the right, both eyes are still facing forward. If he had turned his head 180 degrees, then only his right eye would have been visible at first and only his left eye would be visible afterward. I'd say he only turns about 100-120 degrees, which anyone's neck should be perfectly capable of (even though Homsar doesn't appear to have one, and if that's the reason it looks so "bizarre," it really should be stated in the fact). --{{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}} 17:08, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
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== Homsar = Homestar?! ==
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If Homsar's first appearance was in this e-mail, and not in his character page, does that mean that Homsar was a spelling mistake? Was it supposed to be ''Homestar''? All you need to add is the 'e' and the 't'. Does this mean Homsar and Homestar are supposedly the same person, except Homsar is the version of Homestar in which his problems are worse? Like his grammar problem? Or are they just brothers? --Homestar fan
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:Yes, Vinnie misspelled "Homestar" in his email, thus creating Homsar. They are, however, separate characters, and no relation between them is known. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:19, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
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::[[Homsar#Biography]] take a look at the second sentence. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:20, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
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== misspelling? ==
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he doesn't make fun of spelling and grammar in this email. --[[User:Dr. Savage|Dr. Savage]] 03:47, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
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:Why would he have? Noting the mispelling of "Homestar" would probably have led to an H*R Universe where Homsar would never appear. Freaky. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 03:52, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
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::Umm, i think the mere CREATION of Homsar in and of itself is making fun of said spelling... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:26, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
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[[Image:Strongbadupload.jpg|thumb|Goof?]]
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== Moved contrast buttons. ==
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I know for a fact that the contrast buttons were farther from the Tandy 400 logo in some kinda robot than this email. --[[User:Fangoriously|Fangoriously]] 03:38, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
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:I added the image, for your convenience. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 03:39, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
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== Direct Link? ==
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The link for typing in Homsar should go straight to the character! Homsar is known more for being a MAIN character than being in that one email that one time. How do I change this? [[User:Ilovefrenchhorn|Ilovefrenchhorn]] 21:52, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
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:His name is "Homsar", not "homsar". If you type in "Homsar" it goes directly there, as that's his name. If you type in "homsar" it comes here, as that's the name of this email. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:53, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
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::And that's why we have a nice disambiguation on top. {{User:Elcool/sig}} 23:20, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

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[edit] Vinnie C. and chatter

I wonder how Vinnie C feels about himself...67.34.29.75 17:45, 20 Nov 2004 (MST)

I don't know but I personally would love to thank Vinnie C. What would homestar Runner be without Homsar?

I agree! Vinnie C. did us all a big favor! Homsar ROX!

I'd like to thank Vinnie C. Without him (Or her, I don't know) We would be missing something big. -Kinsey

Thank you Vinnie for making a great character!

This is one of the absolute best e-mails simply from what came out of it!

Hi, everyone. We have a Forum for general discussions like this. Please use it to talk about an email, instead of talking about it here. Thanks. —FireBird|Talk 18:18, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

A game dedicated to this email. Homsar--4.249.195.226 03:16, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

It is a great email, Homsar is a great character AND Homsar give the Poopsmith another purpose-Sbdisciples 18:46, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] We Need a New Image for Him

We need a new pic of Homsar so hears one right hear

This article is about the email, not the character. The screenshot we have is just fine. — It's dot com 20:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Poor, poor homsar

That peice of crap is the dumbest thing I have ever seen!! Sure he is funny... to laugh at but nothing else. Someone needs to punch him in the gut. Someone like... STRONG BAD!! yeah, that should be done very soon, now all a yal die-hard homsar fans, can go cry, like, like strong sad.-ken

Hey, man, use the forum for your Homsar bashing.--Jnelson09 18:59, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Monty Python

Am I the only one who thinks the Heavy Lourde refers to the "16 Tons" weight from Monty Python's Flying Circus that would sometimes be dropped on a character to end a sketch prematurely? It might qualify as a RWR; let me know what you guys think. Toilet Duck 16:38, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry, you're not the only one. It's mentioned on Heavy Lourde. – The Chort 17:26, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Punctuation and spelling

Although Strong Bad says he will "keep making fun of your punctuation and spelling", no emails up to this point had punctuation errors.

Does "Keep making fun of something" have to refer part emails? Beacause Strong Bad is still making fun of others' punctuation and spelling. If there's going to be a full discussion on this, I'll move it to STUFF. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 10:04, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, in this email he makes fun of Vinnie's spelling, and he's saying that in future, more jabs of the same are following, so I agree, not really notable. --phlip TC 11:14, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dial SB For Murder

There has been a bit of back-and-forth on whether SB killed Homsar. I'm seeing a strong argument for both sides of the issue. On the one hand, he was "completely crushed" by a Heavy Lourde, and as such must have been killed; cartoon physics (or, perhaps, metaphysics in this case) is all that allows him to have recovered. On the other hand, one could also use cartoon physics to argue that the Heavy Lourde somehow did not kill him, as it's evident he's quite alive.

I'm inclined to side with the "not killed" viewpoint. Was Wile E. Coyote killed each time he failed to snag the Road Runner, and was instead crushed/blown up/shattered/etc.? I don't think that's sensible. Anyway, as it's been rv and rv a few times I'd like to see if there's any consensus on this. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 22:38, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

We don't have to look at non-TBC toons for examples. For some H*R characters we do assume that they get killed several times. Of course, the Teen Girl Squad cartoon physics is a bit wilder than the normal H*R one, but so is cartoon physics when it comes to Homsar. I believe we should assume that Homsar was killed here, as this is what the email suggests and what SB refers to when he thanks the email writer. Loafing 23:10, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
On the date this email debuted, I am sure that Homsar was supposed to be dead. Obviously, TBC couldn't kill off Homestar, but because Vinnie made his fateful spelling error, they were free to create and immediately squish a character. Later, they realized there was potential for him, and he miraculously survived. — It's dot com 23:35, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
But if he survived, he couldn't have actually been killed! There's the paradox. How do we word the summary to avoid supporting or denying either strong argument? Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 23:40, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
This is what I think: Homsar was killed, but then TBC brought him back, no explanation needed. I mean, it's a cartoon, not a serious 1-hour drama show on some popular TV network. Characters can die and suddenly be perfect in eight seconds. By summary, I assume you mean the summary at the top, well, I think it's perfect. I mean, we can't please every fan, so we probably have to choose one. Bluebry 23:50, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0 implies that Homsar didn't die after being crushed, he just got badly injured. --Trogga 00:34, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Think of it this way: in a book, when someone is apparently killed, the characters don't go around saying, "Boo-hoo! My best friend was apparently killed by a cement mixer!" They speak as if the character is dead, whether he is alive later or not. Maybe we could apply the same thing here. We could also just say something that doesn't address whether or not Homsar is killed, like: "SB decides to kill Homsar."-LordQuackingstick 01:16, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Closed STUFF

[edit] Hey hey, doo-doot doo

Strong Bad's mouth doesn't move when he says "Doo doo doo."

Posted on: 23:41, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Closed: 22:08, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was overwhelmingly accepted, 18–2. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/homsar.

[edit] Homsar's Head

  • When Homsar turns to face Strong Bad, only his head moves. His body stays put.

So what? His head could've turned without his whole body moving. In fact, why would he turn all the way around? He's not facing completely the opposite direction. I guess one could argue that he shouldn't be able to move his head since he doesn't appear to have a neck, but if so, it should be stated in there somewhere. --~That Guy Over There (User talk:That Guy Over There) 04:55, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, it looks bizarre. Especially seeing as how the writing on his shirt continues staying in THAT direction. Picture if it was Homestar. They've never done soemthing like that with him. They always make him turn comepletely around. It's likely just coz it's older (and/or they were lazy). --DorianGray 04:59, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
But if you turned your head, would the writing on your shirt necessarily turn around? What does it matter if he usually doesn't turn just his head? It's such an infinitesimal piece of information. It's not even interesting. --~That Guy Over There (User talk:That Guy Over There) 05:04, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
But it looks bizarre. And if I turned my head 180 degrees, like he does, it might be unusual. --DorianGray 05:08, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
I can easily turn my head almost 180 degrees (almost), so I don't know if there's something wrong with your neck or if something is broken up there, but anyway, he doesn't even turn his head 180 degrees. Note that when he's facing the left, both of his eyes are facing forward. When he turns to the right, both eyes are still facing forward. If he had turned his head 180 degrees, then only his right eye would have been visible at first and only his left eye would be visible afterward. I'd say he only turns about 100-120 degrees, which anyone's neck should be perfectly capable of (even though Homsar doesn't appear to have one, and if that's the reason it looks so "bizarre," it really should be stated in the fact). --~That Guy Over There (User talk:That Guy Over There) 17:08, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Homsar = Homestar?!

If Homsar's first appearance was in this e-mail, and not in his character page, does that mean that Homsar was a spelling mistake? Was it supposed to be Homestar? All you need to add is the 'e' and the 't'. Does this mean Homsar and Homestar are supposedly the same person, except Homsar is the version of Homestar in which his problems are worse? Like his grammar problem? Or are they just brothers? --Homestar fan

Yes, Vinnie misspelled "Homestar" in his email, thus creating Homsar. They are, however, separate characters, and no relation between them is known. --DorianGray 21:19, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Homsar#Biography take a look at the second sentence. — Defender1031*Talk 21:20, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] misspelling?

he doesn't make fun of spelling and grammar in this email. --Dr. Savage 03:47, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Why would he have? Noting the mispelling of "Homestar" would probably have led to an H*R Universe where Homsar would never appear. Freaky. DevonM(talk·cont-ribs) 03:52, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Umm, i think the mere CREATION of Homsar in and of itself is making fun of said spelling... — Defender1031*Talk 19:26, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Goof?

[edit] Moved contrast buttons.

I know for a fact that the contrast buttons were farther from the Tandy 400 logo in some kinda robot than this email. --Fangoriously 03:38, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I added the image, for your convenience. MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 03:39, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Direct Link?

The link for typing in Homsar should go straight to the character! Homsar is known more for being a MAIN character than being in that one email that one time. How do I change this? Ilovefrenchhorn 21:52, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

His name is "Homsar", not "homsar". If you type in "Homsar" it goes directly there, as that's his name. If you type in "homsar" it comes here, as that's the name of this email. — Defender1031*Talk 21:53, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
And that's why we have a nice disambiguation on top. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 23:20, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
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