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Dialogue questions

Does anyone has an opinion of the dialogue might be in the following lines?

STRONG BAD: {singing} It's an email, baby. (HERE)
BUBSAMECIUM: Certainly! Six tubes (HERE) of coming right up!
HOMESTARMECIUM: Oh, (HERE). Um, these are for my twin brother!

EDIT: Just gotten word it may be Strongbadophage.

It would be great if anyone knew. — Lapper (talk) 05:34, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Here's one: I'd bet my important object that Bubsamecium is saying "rear-end cream". --DorianGray
The "Bubsamecium" line sounds like "rear-end cream" to me. Provided the "(HERE)" was put in the right spot up there. Also, I think Baby Strong Sad said "Diapersmith" (as it's the baby Poopsmith and all...) -YK 05:40, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Ditto that, YK. I'd further like to add that I think that the Strong Bad virus-looking thing is called "Strongbadophage". That's what I put on Twin Characters. I had to watch it several times to figure that out. --DorianGray
Absolutely no clue what the word after "It's an e-mail, baby!" is, though. Sounds like "lunge juice"... that can't be right. -YK 05:44, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Sounds like "love juice" to me... Or "lunch juice". Which are just as weird. --DorianGray
I heard "lunch juice" and thought I was nuts until I saw you guys had similar things. -- Tom 05:52, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Sigh—I feel a long and uncivil STUFF (or at least Talk battle) coming on. Currently the article reads "And the email baby loves juice". While this comes the closest to making any sense, it's just not what I hear. My hearing (though I don't assert it as the only possible one) is "It's a e-mail, baby! lunch juice." —AbdiViklas 15:42, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Here's another: On first viewing, I heard Baby Strong Bad's line as "I'm pretending I'm playing violent video games!" What's in the article is "better video games"; on closer listening it does sound like that, but is pretty difficult to make out anyway. It could be "vinyl" as far as we can tell! So: "violent" certainly makes more sense. But is it simply for that reason (contextual suggestion) that I "heard" it? —AbdiViklas 16:02, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

I heard better on multiple viewings small_logo.pngUsername-talk 16:17, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
i agree with abdiviklas. it's what i heard. plus, we know half of the strong bad email intros don't make sense. Seriously 20:32, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

SOUNDS! — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 20:33, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Ah, KieferSkunk comin' through, doin' his thing with the OGG files, he's gonna be king. =3 --DorianGray

Continuity

This could probably go without saying, but I think we need to consider all of the flashbacks from this toon (and probably the one from flashback, too) to be apocryphal. They just don't jive with established continuity. I think stand-up probably actually happened in their timeline, as well as The Secrets That I Keep. — It's dot com 05:45, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

I'll second that... Especially the paramecium bits. ;) --DorianGray
Indeed. -- Tom 05:55, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Hey, Strong Bad even *admits* here that he has a "very unphotographic memory". As if his flashback lies weren't obvious before, they are *now*. =P (BTW, is it just me, or does the "paramecium Homestar" resemble the Poopsmith more than Homestar? Weird misshapen eyes, odd mouth shape, few messy hairs... probably coincidence, but weird.) -YK 05:58, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
I say it's comparible to the movie Big Fish, where real events are skewed and altered to make a more interesting story. TheRealZajac
Guy above me- leave your signature, please. Just type four ~'s. {edit:signed for} As for continuity, It's a comedy. I really don't ever remember seeing a comedy that had continuity. Sometimes the lack of continuity adds to the humor, although I wouldn't necessarily say it does for this. Maybe. Continuity is usually only important in serious plot drama and such. Agentjs03 13:40, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
There are lots of comedies that pay careful attention to continuity. Scrubs, for example. And TBC in general keep it pretty consistent. — It's dot com 18:50, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
The Muppet Babies-style flashback in particular closely resembles the Muppet Babies show in terms of discontinuity. You have a collection of characters who are of varying ages in the original toon, PLUS other movies in the Muppet series that establish different scenarios of how the characters met each other. I think it's a parody of the Muppet chronology as much as it is Strong Bad's really bad memory.Spell4yr 20:17, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

The whole deal seems pretty simple to me. The first Easter egg sums it up. The first version of the Easter Egg shows what actually happened (and what we don't get to see in this email), while the second "doodle memory" version is comparable to what Strong Bad shows us. - Joshua 18:21, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Small question...

  • Would it be of consequence to mention that this is the shortest Lappy 486 email so far? -- Frickinsellout 07:08, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
  • it is? woah! Seriously 20:13, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Stampers!

I definitely hear an 's' in front of Marzipan's "dampers!" Does anyone else?Trelawney 08:28, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Me too. I heard "scampers" more clearly than "dampers". It could have been "stampers". TaranchulaVamp15 12:35, 9 Jan 2006 (CST)

no. that is wrong. it is definitely stampers. Seriously 00:43, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Upon further review, I hear "Stampers" too. Still, this appears to be customary in such situations, so I'll put it to a vote:

If you hear "Stampers!", add your name to this numbered list:

  1. Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk)
  2. Seriously
  3. -YK
  4. DorianGray
  5. Heimstern Läufer
  6. Jonnny
  7. talk Bubsty edits
  8. Trelawney
  9. NFITC1
  10. TotalSpaceshipGirl3
  11. Geshmalder

If you hear "Scampers!", add your name here:

If you hear something else, add your name here and state what you hear:

Accent on striped

Shouldn't the accent over the e in striped go upper-left to lower-right (the french accent grave)?

Wikipedia:Grave accent#Use in English suggests yes, although Wikipedia:Acute accent#Use in English seems contradictory. But my gut sides with you, IP. Changed accordingly. —AbdiViklas 15:10, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Are we doing the same thing with "Stripe-ed Green Rabbit with Two Butts" for New Boots? — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 20:07, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Yes, we should totally use striped with accent on both articles. —BazookaJoe 20:10, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Sickly Sam Pillar

In the Easter egg at the end, when Sickly Sam coughs/wheezes and disappears, and the pillar appears in his place... Could this be a reference to something? Isn't there some sort of myth where people were turned into salt pillars? -Polly 17:24, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

There's the story of Lot's wife in the Bible, but I doubt there's a connection to this. EASports
I'd be willing to give it a little consideration as a reference, but it would be a loose one at best, and I doubt it would survive a STUFF process. --ISlayedTheKerrek 17:59, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
I admit it occurred to me as well, but I don't think there's a real reference here. — It's dot com 18:47, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
That entire scene makes no sense whatsoever. :P — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 20:11, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
this is probably just another instance of strong bad's apocryphal stortelling. probably doesn't have a reference.Seriously 20:20, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

A comment from fark.com:

2006-01-09 03:12:57 PM hoonis
Strong-sad-ghost-in-rome is replaced by a DORIC column. get it? Doric.. Dorrr...kkk

Would be pretty obscure if true, but...

Marz-lody

Did anyone else see a resemblance to Melody from Mellow Mushroom in Marzipan's high school self? TaranchulaVamp15 12:40, 9 Jan 2006 (CST)

yeah, though i don't know why they would make a reference to her. most people (not counting the wiki) do not know about the site, let alone their creation of it. Seriously 20:22, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, that's what references are for. Inside jokes, sort of. Even if only TBC get it. Xyzzyka 21:12, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Something I think is more interesting, actually, is that this would be the first second time we've seen Marzipan's legs, even if the sequence isn't exactly canon. The first was on Main Page 17 when 20X6 Marzipan starts jumping around. In both cases, though, these are character variations, and not Marzipan herself. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 21:22, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
I'll agree with that... And, lemme tell ya, those legs creep me out... I'm just so used to Marzipan being a broom... --DorianGray
Yeah. The voice is similar, too. I mean, more similar than usual.--Jnelson09 22:08, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Maybe, but it sounds to me like Missy was just going for a "cute girl" voice in both cases. 1936 Marzipan also sounds like this. I think Melody had a thicker southern accent, too. Rocketlex 17:31, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Adventure

If Strong Bad was referring to the Atari Dragon, and it ate two of his pixels, he was probably playing Adventure, and the second pixel was probably the black dot that activated the easter egg.

That sounds logical to me... Also, isn't that sound effect an Adventure noise? I can't quite place it, although I know I've heard it before... --DorianGray
The sound effect in question is used on H*R in two places: In Secret Collect when you hit a force field, and on Main Page 13 for the Store button. I don't know which actual 2600 game it was used in, though - I don't think it was Adventure. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 20:14, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Well, whatever game it was in, now I'm-a add it to My Pride And Joy, Sound Effects. --DorianGray

The game he was playing seemed like secret collect with that Duck-dragon thrown in. Think about it, there's that same noise, and your character in Secret Collect only has a couple of pixels, right? SaltyTalk! 01:36, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

cellular strong bad

guys, it sounds like homestar says "strongbadiophage." should that be the name, or is it just homestar calling strong bad stongo badio again? if homestar is, then yes, it would be perfectly logical to call him strongbadophage. but what if he isn't?Seriously 20:42, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Check the explanations. Strongbadiophage is based on a bacteriophage. --DorianGray

ah. thank you. that clears everything up.Seriously 20:46, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Coach Z Hat

Is it just me, or is Strong Bad wearing Coach Z's hat in High School? -- Grabboarm700

Same style, different colour. Not precisely Coach Z's, but of the same brand, if you will. --DorianGray
It seems kind of a lighter color, I guess. -Grabboarm700
Lighter? It's completely different. Coach Z's is purple with a blue brim. This one is bright green with a bright fuschia-ish brim. --DorianGray

Page

Are the "Middle School" Homestar characters worthy of a page? I'm just curious, because I made took some pictures out , sooo... -Grabboarm700

I think we already put them in Stylised Character Designs. --DorianGray

Fine Figures?

Do you guys think it's worth noting that this is practically GUARANTEED PROOF that Marzy's body isn't skirt-shaped? -Marth 99

No, because Marzipan's legs are seen courtesy of Strong Bad's "unphotographic memory" - implying that we can't rely on it to determine canon. (See #Marz-lody above.) — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 21:33, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Guitar

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Homestar's "Axe": Zakk Wylde or 70's Style?

does anyone else think that Homestar's guitar could be a reference to Zakk Wylde's famous axe? they both have a similar spiral design coming from the pickup areas...TheSyndicate88

Do you have a picture of this "famous axe" for comparison? I'd like to see before passing judgment. --DorianGray
There are images of this "axe" available here: Wikimedia Commons. Probably the best photo in that bunch is this one: [1].
That said, I don't think these are related. Homestar's guitar more closely follows the general style of that era rather than a specific artist. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 23:09, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Agree. They share a similarity, but I'm guessing it's nothing specific. --DorianGray
Uploaded a screenshot from the Toon for more direct comparison. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 23:16, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Also, addressing Syndicate's original post: Zakk's axe actually has a bulls-eye pattern on it, not a spiral. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 23:17, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Baby Strong Bad's hat

Baby Strong Bad's hat
Baby Strong Bad's hat (see right) looks familiar...is it from some other cartoon? I was thinking Jughead, but it's different... Trey56 00:00, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Reminds me of the ones Mickey Mouse's little nephews(?) wore... --DorianGray
It's definately not Jughead's. Maybe you're on to something Dorian... — talk Bubsty edits 00:18, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
I found this one by Googling. [2] The hat's similar. --DorianGray
That must be what I'm thinking of--thanks. Trey56 01:35, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
It's kind of a cartoon convention, and one that always puzzled me as a kid. (And still does today, I guess.) Because I've never seen anyone wear a hat like that in real life. But yeah, Mickey's nephews, Jughead, I think somebody from Blondie... —AbdiViklas 06:29, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Vomitorium explanation

The paragraph explaning the term vomitorium appears to be copied and pasted directly out of Wikipedia, but without the citation. Do we have a policy on this type of reproduction? Should it be paraphrased, or should the original citation be included? Would a link to Wikipedia suffice? -- Mayosolo 00:12, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

I think that paragraph should be shortened and provided with a link to Wikipedia. That's more our usual style, if I'm not mistaken. I'll do that ASAP if no one objects. Heimstern Läufer 00:23, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Is this a real email?

Is it?Ava

Yeah. Of course it's a real email. — Kilroy / talk 00:32, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
While nothing says it has to STAY this way, the FAQ states that all of the published Strong Bad Emails are real, except for mile, which was made up by The Cheat. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 00:41, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

More on striped

I referenced Strong Bad's recurring unique pronunciation of the word "striped," but it was reverted. I don't see why it shouldn't be an inside reference, or at least a remark. Terlet Brush 04:21, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

The reason I reverted it is that we usually don't note recurrences of strange words or pronunciations. These are commonplace on H*R.com, and so we (or at least I) don't typically find them noteworthy. Also, it seems to me that Strong Bad's pronunciation of striped is not unique; I've heard it used outside of H*R.com several times. That said, I wouldn't want to act unilaterally, so if anyone thinks this should be noted, please do tell, or STUFF this or something. Heimstern Läufer 04:56, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
I think I'll lay off on this - dictionary.com has it as a legitimate pronunciation. Terlet Brush 05:23, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
For posterity, I would just like to get the fact in question into this talk page; while I guess our policy's our policy, I find it interesting that it was the same word each time. If it were just multiple instances of aspirating final syllables, Shakespeare-style, then I wouldn't find it so notable. —AbdiViklas 06:34, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Biology

Two Things: Plastic Chicken 04:36, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

a) More specifically, Strong Bad looks like a T-Even bacteriophage. (IIRC the T bacteriophages were numbered in order of discovery and the even ones happened to look alike.)

b) Paramecium are eukaryotes, and therefore reproduce by mitosis (technically, mitosis followed by cytokinesis -- mitosis is only the process of separating the DNA after it has been duplicated. Muscles cells (for example) become multinucleated by lots of mitotic divisions that are NOT followed by splitting the cytoplasm). Binary fission is a different process limited to prokaryotes (bacteria).

Thanks, P.C.; I'd seen that go back and forth several times. Most recently the explanation was that since Homestarmecium lacked a nucleus he was unable to commit mitosis; now biology is thin ice for me, but I might suppose that the logical conclusion is rather that he's simply an inaccurately-portrayed paramecium. —AbdiViklas 06:38, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Preserved for posterity

There were a couple of edits that got reverted; I wanted to save them from oblivion and preserve them here on the talk page, since I at least found them intriguing and noteworthy, if not worthy of inclusion in the article.

  • Homestar as the matronly nursery character saying "Now you children skedaddle" is a reference and a hybrid of both Nanny from Muppet Babies and the Mammy-Two-Shoes character from the massively successful series of theatrical short cartoons Tom and Jerry. The costume and dialogue are indicative of Tom's African American owner, who usually wallops the cat with a broom when he misbehaves. "Nanny" was a kind mentor only shown from the waist down.
  • The Old Timey Romans Easter Egg may be a reference to "The Roman Holidays", a Hanna-Barbera animated sitcom from the 1970s. Like "The Flintstones" and "The Jetsons", the basic premise was "funny business in another time period".

On the Nanny/Mammy fact, I am pretty sold on its validity, though I'd prefer it rewritten (e.g. "Homestar... (bla bla) wast down... (bla bla) ...characters in many cartoons, most notably Nanny in Muppet Babies and various owners in Tom & Jerry (bla bla)"), preferably a little more streamlined (losing phrases like "massively successful series of theatrical short"). The Muppet Babies connection I see as justified by the overall allusion; the Tom & Jerry connection by the broom and nature of the line (Nanny never had a broom, right?). Note that Mammy was later replaced by the feet of a Caucasian owner, so she wasn't the only one in Tom & Jerry portrayed at that angle. —AbdiViklas 06:47, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

It could be Homestar's Dad. Or Uncle. Homfrog 12:33, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Or mom for that matter. But I think it's Homestar, and his age gap would make the Coach Z discrepency far less strange! —AbdiViklas 16:22, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
I thought the same thing as Abdi when I saw the toon, and I'm sure this is a reference to Mammy. And you know, SB is probably making it all up with his doodle memory... Kiki 17:59, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Atari 2600 SFX

When Baby Strong Bad is playing the video game, the sound effects used there are also used in Secret Collect (first and third effects), and also on Main Page 13 (all three). The first sound effect is repeated twice.

I removed a Fun Fact that said these sound effects were from the Atari 2600 version of Pac Man. They aren't - trust me. But for reference, there are two sound effects on Main Page 13 that ARE taken from that game: When you mouse off of the Characters button and Strong Bad disappears (effect is played while the ghosts are under the effect of a power pill), and the "donk!" sound on the Downloads button is the sound played when you eat a dot.

I don't know exactly which games the SFX in this cartoon came from, but I can say with high certainty (with my much-more-photographic-than-Strong-Bad's memory) that they're not Pac Man. :) — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 17:35, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Flashback?

Another remark reads:

  • In his flashback, Strong Bad recalls Coach Z being up to 2 years older than himself, but in the video Strong Sad showed in stand-up, Coach Z was already an adult when Strong Bad was a little kid.

What flashback? Where did Strong Bad say Coach Z was 2 years older than himself? — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 17:47, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Easter egg pic

doodle

Why is there a picture of the "doodle memory" Easter egg (shown to the right) actually listed in the Easter egg section? I thought we only did that when the picture was hard to see or went by too fast or the words were hard to click on. This one doesn't seem to meet any of those criteria. — It's dot com 17:56, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

I dunno, but I appreciate the chance to see it. It go by too fast for me, anyway. (And no, I didn't upload it. Goes by too fast, remember?) --DorianGray
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