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| - | Does anyone else think that Bubs doesn't actually say the second "Twicely Fresh." I know it's hard to see if his lips are moving while he's moving his head around, but after watching it the first time, I watched it frame by frame and I belive that the second "Twicely Fresh" is an echo or something. Your thoughts? — [[User:DrWorm|DrWorm]] 02:16, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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| | I timed this email just to check if the current one was right, and I got 3:10 at the end of [[The Paper]]'s descent. Do we go by when The Paper first comes down or when he finishes coming down? {{User:LePorello/sig}} 12:39, 13 March 2006 (UTC) | | I timed this email just to check if the current one was right, and I got 3:10 at the end of [[The Paper]]'s descent. Do we go by when The Paper first comes down or when he finishes coming down? {{User:LePorello/sig}} 12:39, 13 March 2006 (UTC) |
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| | ::I thought he looked more like those things in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy movie. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:05, 13 March 2006 (UTC) | | ::I thought he looked more like those things in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy movie. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:05, 13 March 2006 (UTC) |
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| - | :::[[Wikipedia:Races from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy#Vogons|Vogons]], you mean? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 18:34, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::Yes, that's what I'm thinking of. Especially the scenes with all of them in their suits with lasers on their chests. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:45, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :I agree, he looks a lot like a CP with a stunstick. ([http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Image:Metrocop_police.jpg Image]) --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 18:49, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :I also agree, and I came to this page looking to see if anyone else had thought the same. He looks like one of those black Combine guys. [[User:24.222.225.198|24.222.225.198]] 00:19, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :I agree as well. Definitely a combine cop.
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| - | ::Although I haven't played Halflife, so I can't make a call there, what he looks like is someone in riot gear, including a gas mask. (Now, maybe they made the eyepiece red as a reference; like I say, I haven't seen it.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:07, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::I agree with AbdiViklas, it looks like any other quasi-scifi riot cop wearing a gas mask. A quick Google Images search turns up lots of Half-Life 2 [http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&q=metrocop&btnG=Search metrocops], but none of them have one or more red eyes, which pretty much knocks out any possibility of a direct reference for me. <small>— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small> 17:55, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::Personally, I thought it was a reference to the film [[Wikipedia:Jin-roh|Jin-Roh]], which would explain the red eyes. But maybe I'm just seeing things. [[User:70.246.134.61|70.246.134.61]] 01:34, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::I think it resembles a metrocop with the dark gear of a combine soldier and the red eyepiece of an elite soldier. - Lazor'd
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| - | ::::::It looks nothing like a combine soldier or anything I've seen in Half Life 2. (I've played the whole game twice){{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:14, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
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| | == "I hate your shoes" or "I think you're cute"? == | | == "I hate your shoes" or "I think you're cute"? == |
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| | :I hear "I think you're cute!" I'm listening again to be sure, though. --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]] | | :I hear "I think you're cute!" I'm listening again to be sure, though. --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]] |
| | ::I hear "shoes". {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 15:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC) | | ::I hear "shoes". {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 15:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC) |
| - | :::I think you'e cute (with a chuckle) here. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:56, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::I heard "I like your shoes." Must just be me. {{User:Tom_Epsilon/sig}}
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| - | :::::Definitely "I think you're cute". I'm changing it. [[User:Qduk|Qduk]] 22:24, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::: I'm changing it back. No "Cute" here. I hear a very distinct "SH" sound. And, yeah, prime QoW material here. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::::I think this requires a more formal vote, as it's so clearly a "t" at the end for me. Agree? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:40, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::::::Not me. I'm iffy on the "hate", but I'm pretty confident on "shoes". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:42, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::::::I hear what you call a "sh" as an aspirated "k". Like he's gigling. Listen for that. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:45, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::::::::Yeah. This would be exacerbated by the sound compression. Trust me, he says "I think you're cute". [[User:Qduk|Qduk]] 22:59, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::::::::I definitely hear "Hate your shoes". Where's Keifer? He always helps with these... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
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| - | ::::::::::::Sorry, I was off getting married. :) Missed my opportunity to contribute to this discussion. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:11, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | : I turned it up. I still hear no K and no T. And no KoT. The word is "shoes", and the more I listen to it, the more confident I am. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:36, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::As did I. It is clear we will reach no concensus. I suggest a formal vote to determine which will be the transcript phraseology and which will be the footnote. If a QOTD comes out, we'll all win. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:10, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::I'm a "I-hate-your-shoes" guy meslef, but it almost sounds as if he's saying "I ''lick'' your shoes." Or maybe it's ''hick'' your shoes? It kind of sounds different each time I hear it.[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:02, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :Just throwing this out there... why would Head Bad be giggling (it sounds like nervous giggling, 's'all) while insulting someone who is basically his other half's shoes? {{User:Tom_Epsilon/sig}} 01:07, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :: Uh, we have a vote way vvv down there. Check it out! No, seriously, check it out! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:09, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :: Okay, never mind, didn't see that you already voted. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:10, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::Why would he be giggling? Maybe laughing at how stupid his shoes are, while commenting "I hate your shoes". {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:17, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :For what it's worth, I definitely hear "I think you're cute." [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 04:45, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::I agree. I think you're cute. Without a doubt in my mind. [[Special:Contributions/123.243.210.246|123.243.210.246]] 03:49, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
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| - | ::::I just can't hear "cute". I hear "shoes". But at that, I can't hear "like" or "hate", either. "I think you're/your shoes" doesn't make sense at all. But then, some things [[Talk:highschool#Dialogue questions|just don't]], even when we reach a general consensus. -[[User:YK|YK]] 09:45, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | I hear "I like your shoes". {{User:Salty/sig}} 15:40, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | : So do I ... and this is one of the few suggestions that actually makes sense in context. A disembodied head rolling around on the ground is at "shoe level" ... and why would Strong Bad ''hate'' the shoes he obviously picked out himself? {{User:Bill/sig}} 20:31, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | Would there be a way for me to upload an .ogg of the disputed quote slowed down? Because... I definately don't hear a "teh" sound at the end of the second word. It almost sounds like he's saying "I ''lake'' your shoes." :/ {{User:Tom_Epsilon/sig}} 19:55, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :Yeah, or "I hake your shoes". Yeah, "I hake your shoes".
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| - | ::That would make a heckofa lot of sense. It's going to be something sensible, I'm sure! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:29, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | '''I hate your shoes.'''
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| - | #{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:11, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | #[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
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| - | #--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:50, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | #{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 11:00, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | #[[User:Troggie|Troggie]] 00:17, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | #{{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:13, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | #[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 00:11, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
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| - | #{{User:The Mu/sig}} 18:45, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
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| - | #[[User:The Thecheatcute11/Thecheatcute11]] 17:51, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
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| - | #[[User:TARINunit9|TARINunit9]] [[Special:Contributions/169.233.49.103|169.233.49.103]] 20:52, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
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| - | '''I think you're cute.'''
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| - | #{{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:15, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | #[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]
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| - | #[[User:Nicko9y|Nicko9y]] 23:10, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | #[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 07:00, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | #{{User:Phlip/sig}}
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| - | #{{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:32, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | #[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
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| - | #[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]]
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| - | #— [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 09:13, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | #{{User:FireBird/sig}} 14:16, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | #[[User:Octan|Octan]] 05:38, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
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| - | #[[User:Gus|Gus]] 18:26, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
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| - | #[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:40, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
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| - | #[[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 06:02, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
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| - | #[[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 7:23, July 25, 2007 (EST)
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| - | # [[Special:Contributions/123.243.210.246|123.243.210.246]] 12:37, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
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| - | '''I like your shoes.'''
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| - | #{{User:Tom_Epsilon/sig}} 00:59, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | #{{User:Bill/sig}} 20:28, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | #[[User:Headbad and strongbody|Headbad and strongbody]] 15:34, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | #{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:38, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | #{{User:SRMX12/sig}} 15:56, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
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| - | '''I think you're shoes. (shoes could be huge)'''
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| - | #{{User:Csours/sig}} 05:34, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | '''I thank your shoes'''
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| - | '''Can We Get An Easily Accessable .OGG Sound Clip First?'''
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| - | *done it{{User:Csours/sig}} 05:46, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | **How do you listen to .ogg files? (i.e., what program do you use?) Thanks, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:42, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ***See [[Sound Effects]] for help on this. Each ogg link there has a help link too. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:44, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ****Perfect -- thanks. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:49, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | *Just a note: the .ogg file cuts off the last "s" sound that you hear if you listen to the clip in the context of the toon. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:00, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | **No it doesn't. The ogg has the entire quote, nothing is cut off. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:04, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ***I have to disagree. Perhaps it's my media player (VLC), but I definitely hear an "s" sound at the end of the last word in the cartoon, but ''not'' in the sound clip. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:15, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ****I just checked. The ogg file is not great quality compard to the swf, but I am hering it all, right up to just before SB starts to type. Maybe your player isn't playing it all? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:25, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | *****You could be right, in which case I wonder if other users may be experiencing the same problem...anyway, thanks for checking. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:30, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | **In fact, this might account for some users' votes for options that don't have an "s" at the end. It might be helpful to upload a sound file that records a moment longer, even if I'm wrong (I would, but I'm pretty sure I don't have the right software). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:20, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ***Hmm. My vote was based on the swf itself. And the ogg simply strengthens my thought on this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:22, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ****I opened the .ogg file and the swf's soundtrack in Audacity and compared them - believe me when I say there is ''nothing'' after the ogg file except silence and Strong Bad's reaction. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:03, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | Sounds like he's saying, "I thake your chute." That doesn't make sense so I voted otherwise. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 16:48, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::I swear, I keep hearing something different every time I listen to it. Because of that, I really can't place a fair vote here. -[[User:YK|YK]] 21:30, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::Has anyone thought to email TBC and ask what he said there? I'm sure they'd tell us if they knew it was going on the wiki. But then again, they probably aren't sure either. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 04:00, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::Given that I'm not aware of them ever clearing up our debate in [[do over]], I'm not sure that would necessarily work. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:03, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::I don't remember the debate in do over. You're pwobabwy wight anyway. I was a-hoping there. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 06:25, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | *It is *clear* he said shoes (you can hear the "sh" sound and the "s" sound at the beginning and end, respectively. The "ha" sound is quite evident; and even though the "t" sound is more subtle, it's still there. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:36, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | **Must not be ''too'' clear, as about half think it's the other one. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:43, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::Right. I can hear why people think it's said both ways. No kidding. Looks like this is a job for Stupid Uncle Egg's good time quote of the week. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:13, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::Not this week, unfortunately. -[[User:YK|YK]] 00:45, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::I find that very surprising, given that we have the OGG recording. I played it *several* times (like 15-20) with my earphones, and they're just regular run-of-the-mill earphones, and I am quite certain I heard what I described, especially for the shoes part. So it kinda baffles me. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:54, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | I definitely hear "cute", but I hope I can contribute more. I was inspired by [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk's]] clarification of Homsar's "Pennzoil" quote back in [[Talk:Fall Float Parade#Tinfoil or Pennzoil?|the Thanksgiving toon]]. I sped up the quote by 33 percent, and I think it makes "cute" sound clearer. {{Audio|Cute.ogg|Take a listen}}. Furthermore, the quote, "I think you're cute," simply makes more sense than, "I hate your shoes." What's funny about hating someone's shoes? But the mutated head of Strong Bad hitting on his equally grotesque body? Now ''that's'' funny. It even plays on Strong Bad's narcissism. This one's definitely "cute".--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:15, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :Arrgh. That just made it even more confusing for me. I still can't hear "cute", but sped up it now sounds like he's saying "I take your shoes!". Waaah. -[[User:YK|YK]] 06:25, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::Listening to it speeded up slightly has convinced me that "you're cute" is right. Plus, it makes more sense in context. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 09:13, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::I personally don't see how either one makes sense in context. For that matter, how "I would like to go to the store" makes contextual sense, but no one is contesting that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:25, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::Well, I didn't say it makes good sense; I said it makes ''more'' sense. I think that a Strong Bad clone would be more likely to praise rather than criticize his other self. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 09:38, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::After listening to the clip many times, I think its "I like your shoes." Even more obvious than shoes vs cute is the "I like your" part; and, "I like your cute" doesn't make any sense. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:43, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::Is the voting ever going to be over? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:25, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
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| - | It was brought up again just today on a [[HRWiki talk:Questions|different page]] so I DVD'D!! it. "your shoes" are the final two words, of this I have no doubts... and yet I'm suddenly leaning more "like" than "hate" as the second word... though it's pretty hard to tell and almost sounds more like "hake". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:07, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
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| | Just for it to be noted somewhere: Stramy is a nick name for our beloved user [[User:Homestramy20|Homestramy]]. Coach Z said: "Old 'Strammy's gone and quit the runnin' business!" and our Stramy did leave for personal reasons. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:46, 13 March 2006 (UTC) | | Just for it to be noted somewhere: Stramy is a nick name for our beloved user [[User:Homestramy20|Homestramy]]. Coach Z said: "Old 'Strammy's gone and quit the runnin' business!" and our Stramy did leave for personal reasons. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:46, 13 March 2006 (UTC) |
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| | :You don't think they're on to us, do you? -shifty eyes- - {{User:Kookykman/sig}} | | :You don't think they're on to us, do you? -shifty eyes- - {{User:Kookykman/sig}} |
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| - | :I'll repeat this; it's definitely a coincidence. Thanks for the notice, though, E.L. Cool. I'm sure Homestramy20 will enjoy it. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 18:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :I'd say it's somewhat from "A Jorb Well Done" — [[User:70.29.120.82|70.29.120.82]] 22:21, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::Yeah, I agree. Strammy, as in Stramstar. AJWD all the way. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 23:50, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::Agreed. Definitely coincidence, but I must admit, I thought of Homestramy, myself, when I heard it, despite not having been here for long. Heh. (I lurked for months before I finally registered and started posting/editting.) -[[User:YK|YK]] 09:40, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| | hmm, my security verify posting coat is deffbo, that gives me a idea for a weightloss to cRAPPY music thingy | | hmm, my security verify posting coat is deffbo, that gives me a idea for a weightloss to cRAPPY music thingy |
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| - | :It literally took me like five minutes to parse the last sentence above. For those five minutes I was sure it was computer-generated gibberish like the kind you sometimes find in spam. No offense.<small>— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small> 16:26, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::What ''does'' it mean? {{User:Granola/sig}} 17:41, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::Rough translation: "The CAPTCHA code I was required to enter in order to post this anonymous comment was 'deffbo,' which gives me an idea for a fitness video a la Tae Bo but with crappy music." <small>— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small> 00:20, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::: im so confused, i thought def meant good??!{{User:Csours/sig}} 05:07, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::What on Earth does "deffbo" mean?? {{User:Granola/sig}} 05:19, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::::It doesn't mean anything. The way the anon used it was one of those goofy combined words (deaf and Tae Bo?). As for where it came from, when you make an anonymous edit, you have to type in letters randomly generated in a blurry image in order for it to appear. The reason for this is because humans can generally read the letters, but computers can't, so this should help weed out spambots/vandal bots. -[[User:YK|YK]] 09:39, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::::Ohh, I see, deffbo was the code that time; I was thinking the anon had ''described'' it as "deffbo". {{User:Granola/sig}} 15:18, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | Listening to Strong Bad's last line in the e-mail, I keep hearing him saying "''Hope I can find my local '''bunman'''...''", whereas the transcript currently shows "''Hope I can find my local '''bunmaker'''...''" Can anyone else lend their ears and offer their opinion on what he's saying? It was reverted out of this [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=disconnected&oldid=285233] revision, so I just want some sort of consensus before changing th transcript. [[User:63.166.226.115|63.166.226.115]] 16:50, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :Def "bunman". {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:54, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :: I had my sound low-ish when I transcribed, so as not to disturb my neighbors. If I made any mistakes, that's the reason. Just defending myself is all. ;) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:30, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :Not me, seems a stretch. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::When I heard him, I was thinking of the song "867-5309 (Jenny)" by Tommy Tutone. Then again, maybe someone who has actually heard that song can confirm or deny it. - Andyroid
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| - | :::Definitely not that song. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:40, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::agree that its not that song, also the first jenny sounds like forrest gumps' jenny. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:11, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | Nobody has mentioned that 1 million yards = 3 million feet (1 yard = 3 feet right?) = 568.18 miles (1 mile = 5280 feet). You can take it from here (like by saying at 60 MPH it would take 9 hrs to complete, 90 hrs at 6MPH, 52 mins at speed of sound (at air i think it's 676MPH), and for light... well, 1.89 milliseconds). I'm still on wikivacation though. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:21, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :I'd think SB just called it that in exaggeration. No other character or signage does. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:29, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | He not only has held Bread Sing-alongs (in Origins), but has also tried to pass off "Moldy Bread, Guys" as Cheat-cakes (in Do-Over). -SomeoneWhoHasn'tCreatedAnAccontYet
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| - | :Maybe. There is circumstantial evidence that [[helium|he only eats pork and beans]]. Then again, we haven't seen him try to eat bread. I wonder if we could tie this in with [[Stinkoman|Stinkoman's]] love of bread.
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| - | :I'm inclined to agree with this being a Running Gag (even though Homestar didn't say Mine name Cornbread- that was Bubs.) --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:06, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::Yes, but it's TBC's third mention of Cornbread. I was so sure there was another one, but it escapes me. Oh well! [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
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| - | Actually, Homestar has been seen eating bread- remember the light bulb sammich?-[[User:LordQuackingstick|LordQuackingstick]] 00:45, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
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| - | Hi, I've been lurking for many months but this is my first attempt at actually working with Wiki. {{unsigned|Evil Jim|19:24, March 13, 2006 (UTC)}}
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| - | :ReAnimator and Regenerator? That's about as coincidental as you get. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:57, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::The phonetic resemblance is plain to see, the number of existing sequels lines up, and the parallel details between Reanimator and the events of the e-mail seal the deal. Both feature a disembodied head with strange appendages. This is an obvoius ReAnimator reference. [[Wikipedia:User:Phil Bond|Phil Bond]] 06:34, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::[[STUFF]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:47, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::What you're saying is that the Homestar Wiki is a democracy where ignorant people can trump people with obscure yet correct information. I found that dismaying, and was feeling disenfranchised about the whole Wiki notion until I found this on the real Wikipedia:
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| - | :::'''Wikipedia is not a democracy'''
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| - | :::Wikipedia is not an experiment in democracy. Its primary method of finding consensus is discussion, not voting. In difficult cases, straw polls may be conducted to help determine consensus, but are to be used with caution and not to be treated as binding votes. Suggestions that Wikipedia use the latest fancy transferable vote system for some election or another will likely be met with disdain, at best. --[[wikipedia:WP:WWIN|What Wikipedia is Not]]
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| - | :::Perhaps I should stick to working there, where they [[Wikipedia:WP:BITE|don't bite the newcomers]]. To anyone who subscribes to this "[[STUFF]]" notion, I recommend you read "[[Wikipedia:Why Wikipedia is so great|Why Wikipedia is so great]]." -[[Wikipedia:User:Phil_Bond|Phil Bond]] 06:53, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::Well.... we're not Wikipedia. {{User:Salty/sig}} 07:02, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::And that's why you're not so great. -[[Wikipedia:User:Phil_Bond|Phil Bond]] 07:17, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::::We also don't take [[Wikipedia:Internet sock puppet|sock puppet accounts]] very lightly, just like [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Sock puppetry|Wikipedia doesn't]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:25, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::::If you'll click my name and check my contributions, you'll see I'm a vigorous contributor to Wikipedia. The guy who started this Re-Animator issue is a friend of mine who's never contributed to Wiki before, but wanted to help when he found a reference within his realm of expertise. I reassured him that Wiki is an organic, participation-required medium where if you have something to contribute: you can in good faith do so, and not worry about stepping on anyone's toes. But now I'm finding that the HR version of Wiki is a Wiki in name only, where everything is subject to approval by committee? Why use the Wiki name and engine, then? Why not run on a form submission model like IMDB? [[HRWiki:Introduction|Is this whole page just an artifact?]] Is anyone going to discuss these points with me, or am I just going to be met with juvenile brevity and conspiracy theories? Should I take it to the discussion page of STUFF itself? -[[Wikipedia:User:Phil_Bond|Phil Bond]] 08:08, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::::Okay, I've pored over your "STUFF" policy, and though it still rubs me the wrong way, it might not be as bad as it seems at first glance. I hope I'm correct to understand that not every single contribution to HRWiki is subjected to this procedure, but that it's a dispute resolution technique. So, trying to do as the Romans do, I've elaborated on the STUFF section for this topic. I hope those on the "against" side agree with a slight rephrasing of their points. I even added an arguement against, in counterpoint to a new arguement for. -[[Wikipedia:User:Phil_Bond|Phil Bond]] 10:57, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
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| - | So as not to potentially leave anybody hanging: I figured [[User:Furrykef|Furrykef]] might be the best person to handle this as I managed to get to his Wikipedia user page directly from STUFF without having seen the discussion here, and saw he was ranting about our stifling rules and how the elders of the main wiki need to intervene in this "daughter" wiki. So I left Kef a note and I think he managed to calm him down. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 11:11, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :I know you're trying to talk about me like I'm not here, but if you want to be understood you should use fewer pronouns. -[[Wikipedia:User:Phil_Bond|Phil Bond]] 11:57, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::Phil: The main reason I see for a STUFF page is that there are quite a few instances (especially in the HR universe) where many people have many different opinions about what constitutes a valid reference. Personally, I like having STUFF around - it's a good way to resolve, once and for all, whether a proposed reference is acceptable, and most of the time STUFF is used on references that are arguably coincidence, or about things that are (usually) not noteworthy (like a particular sound effect occurring in other toons). It's not used for everything, and I don't see anything about it that's "stifling" or otherwise detrimental to the wiki. In fact, I think it serves a very good purpose here - in many ways, it helps to keep the wiki running smoothly, so we don't end up in incessant "revert wars" because two or more people disagree on a particular item. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:11, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
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| - | On Wikipedia, there are many experts in the relevant fields, so on matters of fact it is possible to mostly listen to the experts, and determine results by consensus. Unfortunately this wiki doesn't deal with such issues. This isn't rocket surgery, it's a fan site. As such, matters of fact rarely come into it, and when they do they're usually solved quickly (and closed early if this happens in STUFF). Just check out [[Talk:Main Page 6#Harp or Lyre?|Talk:Main Page 6 → Harp or Lyre?]] for an example of a discussion about facts that ended very quickly and evolved into an out-punning contest. Unfortunately most of what we see are value conflicts – what constitutes a valid reference, as Kiefer mentioned, whether something ''seems like'' a reference or a coincidence… few of these would be solved by discussion amongst your average sane person. And we're not your average sane person – many of the users here could be described (with no malice intended, I count myself in this group) as "fans", using the true meaning of the word, that is an shortening of ''fanatic''. If you think you can convince them in a value discussion and form a consensus, you should see some of the posts on the [[HRWiki:Old STUFF|pre-reform STUFF page]], which encouraged such discussion (as opposed to the current one, which tries to stifle it in favour of simply listing arguments) – take [[Talk:do over#Change of Pace (ACCEPTED)|Talk:do over → Change of Pace]], the mere mention of which gets at least one member of the community up in arms (please don't demonstrate here…). Incidentally, even Wikipedia has [[Wikipedia:WP:VfD|WP:VfD]] for when values clash too much, so don't say that they are against the wiki way. We just have it more often, because we have a higher percentage of value-based disagreements. (I'm in the middle of a philosophy course about the differences between a factual disagreement and a value conflict, so I get this stuff hammered into me every couple of days…) {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:45, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :BTW, Phil, if you'd like a specific example of how STUFF could really help WP, check out [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shadow_the_Hedgehog&action=history the edit history of the '''Shadow the Hedgehog'''] article — particularly in the edit/revert war between an IP address and Xino. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:49, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::Honestly, everybody, since going on this little crusade, I've (finally) figured out for myself that this whole wiki is necessarily seperate due to the behavior that the subject matter engenders, and I'm sorry I came barging in like I knew better, without experience in comedically-themed wikis. As I told Kef I would be, I'm a little embarrassed about that. It's sad, because some material that should be included in an encyclopedia of significant facts seems to get left by the wayside, and I wonder what other real references never get cataloged because they're voted down. The root of my energy on the subject is that the kernel of information that got this all started seems like such a plain fact. I don't know how anyone, let alone a majority, could think otherwise. It's baffling, and it makes me think the system doesn't work. I can't help but notice that most of the participants in this discussion haven't voted, but with how politicized it's gotten, and how juvenile some users seem to be, I no-longer have faith that it'd be a vote on the subject anyway. Looks like I can't win. -[[Wikipedia:User:Phil Bond|Phil Bond]] 07:14, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::Actually, having overseen several hundred of these STUFF items under the current system, I can say that it works quite well for our wiki. Looking over the closed ones, I would be hard-pressed to find even one where I wasn't completely confident that the final vote represented the overall consensus of our users. You seem to be basing your opinion primarily on this one fact that you are 100-percent sure about. Well, not everyone shares your opinion—I for one am not so sure about it. Maybe it's true and maybe it isn't, but we shouldn't give it the weight of listing it on the article unless most of us think that it belongs there. We ''tend'' to disallow potential references that are more of a stretch or are more obscure (although not always) unless they are somehow confirmed by TBC. I'm comfortable with that, because the articles should contain a minimum of outright speculation. Incidentally, it's not even like these declined facts disappear... they are archived on the talk page where all who wish to dig deeper can see them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:50, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::Do TBC often interact with the Wiki? -[[Wikipedia:User:Phil Bond|Phil Bond]]
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| - | :::::Not directly. They use the site occasionally as a reference, and make references to it in passing (in commentaries, interviews and the like), and occasionally they'll answer questions we're wondering about, by saying something in a commentary, or making the QotW a hard-to-transcribe line (though whether this is intended to directly help us is debatable)... but they haven't made any direct contributions, to the best of our knowledge (they certainly haven't announced themselves, if they do). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:41, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::::I've thought, what if they submitted a reference they actually know they used, and we STUFFed and declined it? Fact is, unless we get it from the horse's mouth, our references are simply our best guess by consensus. There have been times a reference we knew was true turned out to be different and vice versa, I'm sure.(The Reading Rampage comes to mind.) So long as we're honest with ourselves about how we do it, we're cool. But we can't pretend to say that each reference we list was definitely on TBC's mind, nor can we say we've caught each one that was. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:18, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::Having begun this whole fiasco in the first place with my sighting of the Re-Animator reference & watching it progress into a debate over its validity on the Stuff page as well as an involved discussion about the foundations of the HRWiki here I feel responsible to comment again. I've learned a lot about the Wiki & what goes on behind its glut of searchable information in the short period since my first attempted edit. It's not the best way for a newbie to learn the ropes but I won't let it discourage me. I will still continue to watch & edit & help make the Wiki the definitive resource for H*R fans everywhere.
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| - | ::::But if the Brothers Chaps do happen to mention Re-Animator & confirm it as inspiration for elements of this email on some future DVD commentary or interview I officially reserve the right to have the last laugh & ask to be allowed to make the addition to the Real-World References on to this page. Either way, I remain your comrade in arms. [[User:Evil Jim|Evil Jim]]
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| - | :::::If this item is ever confirmed by TBC (a big ''if''), I doubt anyone will sit around waiting for anyone else to add it (piranha attacking a cow would be a good visual metaphor for how things get added around here). I guess you can have the last laugh if you really want it, but that's largely unnecessary, given that we know our limitations. We are well aware that a lot of the information on the articles, in particular in the references sections, is ''likely'' but not certain. Information that is likely to be true is not ''necessarily'' true, just as that which is unlikely is not necessarily false, but we've got to start somewhere and relative likelihood seems to be the standard of proof we have agreed on. Each of us has our own definition of what is likely true, and thus debates continue, but we don't pretend that we get it right all of the time (TBC have actually stated that they are amused by several of the inaccuracies on the pages, usually found in real-world references sections). When we get better information, we change it. Simple as that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:28, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::::I only intend to have the last laugh in a good natured way. I do realize that it may very well be a very convincing coincidence & I look forward to finding the truth from TBC if only to confirm or deny once & for all my initial suspicions. I'll probably be the only one waiting for this, but that's why people have watchlists. [[User:Evil Jim|Evil Jim]]
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| - | I've always thougth that SB's head looks like good old egg Dizzy (main character of adventure game starting off at 8-bits). He had even boxing floating boxing gloves and shoes (rayman-like, except rayman is much younger). But now when he says that "My head would probably get pretty dizzy just rollin' around all the time", I see this as a real-world reference to the Dizzy, who used somersault as jump, which happened all the time. [[User:Analytik|Analytik]] 20:49, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :I tink it's just a referenceto normal eggs. In fact, that maks it barely a reference at all, since it's really not that specific. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:57, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :The head rolling for transportation is also reminiscent of Weebl and Bob (http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/archives.php), another high-volume online comic. However, one might argue that he would have had a hankering for pie and not breads. [[User:Tirian|Tirian]] 05:09, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :It's a common phrase, not a reference to anything specific. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
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| - | :Why not a reference to the Cole Porter song? Or - better yet - why not just a use of a common phrase in English, making it not very remarkable after all. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:43, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :Come on, really. The TV show. It's a reference. The phrase has become common thanks to Tom and Peter.
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| - | ::Really. Look up the song from the show <strike>"Anything Goes" by Porter</strike> Mame. (Oops, wrong show.) This has been a common phrase for at least a century. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:45, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | The title of the tv show is *itself* a reference to the common phrase. Just like the song in Mame. No reference![[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
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| - | :No. Cornbread is a common food. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:27, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :The shrieking heads in Doom fly by themselves. Strong Bad first features some sort of visible anti-gravity device, then the flaming exhausts. I can't see a clear link, despite that both are surrounded by flames somehow. By the way, what other Doom references do you mean? Bubs' shotgun in [[virus]]? --[[User:PoweredByHomsar|PoweredByHomsar]] 02:35, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::[[secret_identity|strongbad_email.wad]], though I don't see this as a running gag just yet. -[[User:YK|YK]] 09:25, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :Not before thinking of [[Wikipedia:The_Jetsons|The Jetsons]]. Those repulsing rings are pretty much cartoon vernacular by now, just like anvils and giant mallets, though less common. I don't think using an idea or a convention established by someone else necessarily counts a reference, but if you're going to make a reference, at least reference the classic. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]]
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| - | *Because he's the King of <i>Town</i>. A town is a Municipality. The KOT probably isn't the King of all of Free Country, or Free Country is just one town. -[[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]]
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| - | Not trying to imply any connection, but I just wanted to mention that the Easter egg poster made me think of the poster described in the [first few paragraphs of ''1984'' http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/1/]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:14, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :''pssssst...'' <small>See the STUFF for this toon.</small> — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:17, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::Heh—yeah, I hadn't. Interesting. (Though for me what triggered the connection was not the slogan but the ''fact'' that it was a poster.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:21, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::I so got the Ninteen-Eighty Four vibe, no doubt about it. The stormtrooper guards? The urge to support the society? The overall totalitarian feel? The ''we're watching you'' bit? And, of course, the moustache seals it. [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:10, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::Might have something to do with the upcoming film ''V for Vendetta''. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 18:12, 14 Mar 2006 (PST)
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| - | something was bugging me about strongbody, and i finally figured it out, the bone sticking up out of his neck would only make sense if it was coming out of a major limb, ie a leg, or in this case, a ham... it looks nothing like a vertabrae.. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:26, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | Cartoons always do that to headless bodies. [[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]]
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| - | == RuneScape ==
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| - | I know that this may be the biggest strecth you've ever heard/seen, but to anyone who has ever played [http://www.runescape.com RuneScape], please answer this question: '''Does the sound of the riot rocks hitting The Poopsmith's shield sound like the sound of a sword hitting someone in Runescape?''' Maybe I'm just hearing things, but I think it does. I immediately thought of RuneScape when I heard that sound. I know, I know, It's probably just a coincidence, it's probably just a generic sound effect, but I couldn't help mentioning the similarity. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:48, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | <br>meh. i dont think so. the rock have a distinctly 'tinny' sound, like an old timey clicky oil dispenser. {{User:Csours/sig}} 18:06, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | The sound effect of Strong Bad typing is a reference to Finding Forrester, where Jamal Wallace makes a similar sound when he is typing. [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]]
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| - | I play RuneScape, like 75% of the time in my life. Problem is, I don't have sound effects. On my friends computer, though it does, it very much does sound like that. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 17:12, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
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| - | == Stone Appearing In The Wrong Place ==
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| - | If you look really closely on Strong Body's hand when he is throwing the rocks, the rock appears in his hand not after it passes the bucket of ammo, but after it passes under his legs. The rock is magically in his hand after it passes the wrong place. Goof, possibly? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 22:14, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :I noticed that as well. He doesn't really grab it out of the bucket. {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:20, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | I was about to add in the Sonic Reference when I saw the tag at the end of the section. But does anybody think it's worth mentioning the use of "Eggman" in the [[Wikipedia:The_Beatles|Beatles]] song "[[Wikipedia:I am the Walrus|I am the Walrus]]"? It's probably better known to more people. {{User:Taco Salad of My Dreams/sig}} 22:25, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :That's even more of a stretch. At least the Sonic ref has more than a similar word going for it. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:31, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::Qermaq, even though the song is called "I am the Walrus", it contains the phrase "I am the eggman" in the chorus ([http://beatles-lyrics.org/magical_mystery_tour/i_am_the_walrus link]). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:09, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::Oh, I'm quite aware of the song and its lyrics. Again, I noted that the Sonic reference has more going for it than mention of a single word. I mean, The Eggman is a character in John Waters' "Pink Flamingoes", is that a reference too? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:29, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::Of course! ;) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:10, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | I think it is a Sonic refference because it says on the Sonic website that Eggman is shaped like an egg.--[[User:Witchesbrew82|Witchesbrew82]] 17:53, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :TS, I thought of the Beatles song too when I heard the phrase "Eggman." I think it's a stretch to call it an overt reference though. At least it'll be archived on this talk page now. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:03, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::Being as notoriously old-school as TBC is, I think they might still be calling Eggman by his US name, Robotnik. --[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 02:03, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::Personally, I would be, even though it is just my personal preference that Robotnik sounds more evil than Eggman. I mean what kind of self-respecting evil genius makes his nickname Eggman? --[[User:Troggie|Troggie]] 00:01, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::Apparently "Eggman" was a nickname given to him by Sonic 'n' friends, and not exactly an endearing one at that. Thus making it even more unlikely that Robotnik would take on the name. Eh, maybe I'm just an irredeemable Mega Drive Sonic fanboy. [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 12:21, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
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| - | Dr. Eggman was named after the lyric in the Beatles' song. Also, isn't it suspicious how Homestar called Strongbad's head "eggman" in the exact same moment when the Municipality logo is shown. The Municipality logo (which is the head of the King of Town) seems to be attributed to Dr. Eggman's logo, right down to the lined teeth. Dr. Eggman's logo is mostly used in the Sonic Advance series, and in Sonic Rush. I think it also is shown in the anime Sonic X. -GT Koopa March 21, 2006
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| - | Wow... good point. I didn't realize that his logo looks so much like that...and I have the wallpaper up too. And by the way, in Sonic Adventure, Sonic makes fun of Robotnik, calling him Eggman. That's how he got the name in the US... -[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 23:45, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | Actually, Dr. Eggman was named Eggman with no intention of refferencing the Beetles song.--[[User:209.158.179.116|209.158.179.116]] 18:34, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
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| - | When I heard Homestar refer to Head Bad as "Eggman" after receiving helpful career advice, I was reminded of a skit from a 1989 episode of Saturday Night Live called "The Egg Man". It features Kathleen Turner as a troubled housewife who seeks solace from counseling sessions with a small egg with a human face (played by Phil Hartman). Transcript for the skit is [http://snltranscripts.jt.org/89/89ceggman.phtml here]. Related?
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| - | The comment that mentions that it is not possible for a head without tires to perform a burnout is just a bit ridiculous. I mean, I guess it is commonplace to see a flying head with firing headers, but OMG if that flying head performs a burnout while flying in mid air!
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| - | :Heh. You've got a point. Del taco'd! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:44, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :I was thinking the same thing in [[pop-up]], facts mentioning that specific tabs that wouldn't work in a real paper book... seriously, so many of the things wouldn't work as part of a pop-up book, and that's the joke... Luckily noone mentioned that spontaneously appearing burgers aren't real... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:13, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::Realize this: Strong Bad's head wouldn't float anyhow because he doesn't have anything to lift him from the ground while he's flying everywhere. --[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 02:05, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::Lol, yeah - SB dropped the repulsorlift which got him into the air for the headers attached to his head which got him around in the air, but he dropped the repulsorlift, so he shouldn't be floating anymore, but he is, cause this is a cartoon. :P --[[User:Troggie|Troggie]] 23:58, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::Maybe he just has [[Lack of Visible Arms|invisible arms or legs]] holding him up off the ground. ;) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:43, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::Or just invisible fingers. Wait. That's stupid. -[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 00:12, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
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| - | Grr...My computer's fixed, and now the emails are choppy! They're less funny when you can't see what's going on...--[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 02:07, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | I believe that the KOT logo on the poster for The Municipality is based on that of The Punisher.
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| - | :Well, whoever you are, check the Eggman section. Someone thinks that the KOT's symbol looks like Dr. Robot...er, Eggman. I think it's best that you:
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| - | *go argue with him 'till it hurts.
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| - | -[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 21:36, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
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| - | === ReReReReAnimator ===
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| - | {{stufffact|The "low-to-no-budget horror film" Regenerator 4 is a reference to the cult classic B-Movie series [[Wikipedia:Re-Animator|ReAnimator]]. The ReAnimator series had three installments, and featured a disembodied head continuing to live, commanding its body, and grafting utilitarian appendages onto itself.}}
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| - | {{stuffverdict|06:50, 1 April 2006 (UTC)|22:47, 16 April 2006 (UTC)|declined|15|12|disconnected}}
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| - | === Jim Henson's STUFF Shop ===
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| - | {{stufffact|"Creature Shop" might as well be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Jim Henson's Creature Shop|Jim Henson's Creature Shop]], which makes many animatronic and puppet characters.}}
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| - | {{stuffverdict|22:06, 27 March 2006 (UTC)|02:41, 29 March 2006 (UTC)|unanimously declined|9|0|disconnected}}
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| - | === The bosomest of buddies ===
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| - | {{stufffact|The phrase "my head and body are normally the bosomest of buddies" is a reference to the 1980s TV show [[Wikipedia:Bosom_Buddies|Bosom Buddies]] starring [[Wikipedia:Tom_hanks|Tom Hanks]] and [[Wikipedia:Peter_Scolari|Peter Scolari]].}}
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| - | {{stuffverdict|09:43, 25 March 2006 (UTC)|02:41, 29 March 2006 (UTC)|unanimously declined|15|0|disconnected}}
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| - | === I am the Eggman? ===
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| - | {{stufffact|The KOT emblem is very similar to the [http://eggmanempire.com:81/forums/images/avatars/5477439a0b09a4bd7.png emblem] of [[Wikipedia:Doctor Eggman|Dr. Eggman]] from the [[Wikipedia:Sonic the Hedgehog series|Sonic the Hedgehog series]], perhaps not coincidentally in the same email in which Homestar calls Strong Bad "Eggman."}}
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| - | === I am the other Eggman ===
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| - | {{stufffact|"Eggman" refers to [[Wikipedia:Doctor Eggman|Dr. Eggman]] (grandson of [[Wikipedia:Gerald Robotnik|Gerald Robotnik]]), the main villain in the [[Wikipedia:Sonic the Hedgehog series|''Sonic the Hedgehog'' series]].}}
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| - | {{stuffverdict|22:47, 13 March 2006 (UTC)|07:39, 19 March 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|21|9|disconnected}}
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| - | === Thing Bad ===
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| - | {{stufffact|Strong Bad's regenerated "Head-nub" and "Nub-head" are very similar to certain forms of the Alien in John Carpenter's [[Wikipedia:The Thing|The Thing]].}}
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| - | {{stuffverdict|19:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC)|07:39, 19 March 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|18|2|disconnected}}
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| - | === V for validity ===
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| - | {{stufffact|The "We're Onto You" poster could be a reference to the similar propaganda "Big Brother Is Watching You" from the book ''[[Wikipedia:Ninteen Eighty-Four|Nineteen Eighty-Four]]''.}}
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| - | {{stuffverdict|18:47, 13 March 2006 (UTC)|07:39, 19 March 2006 (UTC)|revised and then overwhelmingly accepted|24|6|disconnected}}
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| - | === Egg Roll ===
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| - | {{stufffact|Just before Strong Bad's head gets his exhaust pipes, he rolls in the same way as the egg characters in the Flash animation [[Wikipedia:Weebl and Bob|Weebl and Bob]].}}
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| - | {{stuffverdict|19:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC)|04:43, 15 March 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|20|2|disconnected}}
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| - | The current transcript refers to the "seasy" life as being a pun on sleasy. However, I just listened to the line several times and it's abundantly clear (at least to me) that Strong Bad's head says "sleasy". I'm going to fix the line if there aren't any objections. - QB
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| - | *Sorry, caught up with this topic after I'd already fixed it. He does say "sleazy" - no question about it. I'll post an OGG of the line if I need to. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:44, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
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| - | Couldn't the line "straight out of the creature shop of some low-to-no budget horror film" be referring to the movie [[Wikipedia: The Little Shop of Horrors|Little Shop of Horrors]]? I mean, I made the connection. [[User:ShadowIce|ShadowIce]] 20:24, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
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| - | Just thought I'd bring up this 2-year-old factoid again, in case anyone noticed. Or seen the movie. Or made the connection. [[User:ShadowIce|ShadowIce]] 02:16, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
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| - | The head rolling is very similar to that of Weebl and Bob. If someone more confident of their editing skills could put it in.
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| - | A good example is the first episode, when Bob rolls in after the first line.
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| - | :Scroll up a little, and you'll see this has been STUFFed and declined (in fact, I'm the one who STUFFed it). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
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| - | This fact was removed, but I think it sounds pretty reasonable: the names are very similar, it's a well-known guy, and it fits the genre.
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| - | *Told Salliaveri may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Tom Savini|Tom Savini]], the special-effects wizard most noted for his work on [[Wikipedia:George A. Romero|George A. Romero]]'s ''Living Dead'' series.
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| - | Discuss. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 10:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :"Savini" and "Salliaveri" are not terribly similar besides a few common letters and a vague Italian ethnicity. It is as likely not a reference as it is a reference. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:18, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
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| - | That doesn't make sense! Why aren't the fact that Homestar calls Strong Bad "Eggman" and The King's symbol not used? I think two references makes it diservable to be in the "Real world references" part down at teh bottom. -Tizye96
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| - | :Please read the discussion at [[HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/disconnected]]. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:46, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
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| - | Oh, come ON! You guys are so freaking strict! I've seen PLENTY of references that aren't even so blunt! Like one on the Dangeresque 3 page, it's based on him just saying a word a certain way! How on earth could THAT be a reference when THIS isn't! Even one about a word just having 'stone' in it's name on 8-Bit Is Enough. That could be anything! You people are so stubborn! It's annoying! Also, let's look at the facts:
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| - | 1: He is shaped like an egg, which is why Eggman is called Eggman.
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| - | 2: The Municipality logo is practically EXACTLY the same!
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| - | 3: He tricks Homestar into a bad idea, which Eggman frequently does to Knuckles in the games.
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| - | There are 3 things there that are PERFECT references. Yet you guys STILL disagree! Isn't the whole idea of this wiki to post your ideas? Well, I CAN'T because of you guys! Just listen for two seconds! Also, I'm in a kinda bad mood, so I MAY have gone a little overboard but JEEZ!!
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| - | :No, the whole point of the wiki is to document verifiable fact, and in cases where fact is disputed, to rule by consensus. Consensus has said no to this fact. Nuff said. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 05:52, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
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| - | While I bet this fact will be declined, I don't know why Strong Bad would sing Jenny's name like he did unless he was doing his version of 867-5309. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 20:35, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
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| - | :<nowiki>*cough*</nowiki> Lappy Start-Up Noise. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 18:28, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
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| - | == what head bad says after "regenerating"... ==
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| - | I made it out TOTALLY. He says "I think you're cute." --{{User:The 386/sig}} 00:48, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
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| - | :Do you have some kind of sound clip? From my point of view, it's "I hate your shoes" {{User:Strongkinghomsarsmith/sig}} 01:06, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
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| - | :: We had a long discussion and reached no consensus, hence the note on the page. Though looking at the note, when did "I think you're stupid" enter the list??? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:01, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
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| - | Will somebody PLEASE REMOVE IT? I think it annoys. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 02:05, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
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| - | :Remove what? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:08, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
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| - | ::If you mean the footnote, no. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:10, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
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| - | :::I knew what you meant, the "I think you're stupid" part of the footnote, right? --[[Special:Contributions/75.5.176.233|75.5.176.233]] 02:15, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
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