Talk:coloring

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"Okay"

If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time that The Cheat has actually said a word... Trey56 04:32, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Or is it? Are they just The Cheat noises? hmmm...Trey56 04:34, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

They're still The Cheat noises. Distinctive, but The Cheat noises nonetheless. — Lapper (talk) 04:36, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I think this one's pretty clearly unambiguous. Just to mess with people. --DorianGray

It definitely sounds like a very clear (for cheat talk anyway) "Okay!" to me. Much more intelligible than all the other times people have claimed to hear actual words in The Cheat noises, at any rate. - Saturn 04:39, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I have no question in my mind at all that this is "OK", not just The Cheat noises. Heimstern Läufer 04:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Let's STUFF'it! --Dacheatbot · Communicate 04:41, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Don't think we need to STUFF it... It's also not a fun fact. I believe that it's probably "OK", but it's still a guess. And if we allow this, then we'll have to revisit other toons as well. Where would we draw the line? Loafing 04:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree with Loafing. Should we remove it, or do we have to have a holy-crap-long debate about it in the STUFFlands? -J2

STUFFlands isn't what Loafing said. Loafing said Herelands. Anyway, The Cheat does say "okay", and it's probably just to play with the fans, as Dorian said (more or less). It's a sticky topic if we want to make an exception to The-Cheat-language transcription rule, and I'm going back and forth on this one. —BazookaJoe 04:57, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't think this is comparable to previous situations at all. The Cheat here does something completely out of the ordinary. In general, his vowels are always variants on "eh" or "er", but here he makes a clear "O" sound. Likewise, for his second syllable, he uses a "k" consonant, which is not in the Cheat's normal phonology either. I think it's quite clear that TBC meant this one to be unambiguous. Heimstern Läufer 04:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. I think it's still just The Cheat in his own language. Just because we think he said that does not make it so. Also, notice the angry black squiggle. That's hardly a mood where The Cheat would offer a compliant "OK". I'd suggest the real translation could not appear on a family website. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  05:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Qermaq --70.28.112.174 10:57, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I actually hear a "t" sound, not a "k". I think it could mean "OK" just because "OK" would be an appropriate answer. I also don't believe that TBC worry too much whether we can understand The Cheat or not. They don't have to document it. Loafing 05:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree. The Cheat was MEANT to obviously sound like he said a real word for the first time. I think it's worth mentioning that.-- »Bleed0range« 05:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

This isn't the first time it's happened. He's said things clearly like this before. This isn't notable on the page as it's still pretty much The Cheat talk. It freaked me out though. Salty^Talk! 12:46, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Well... after listening to it a couple of times, it's definitely still in The Cheat. I can hear a distinct "k" sound in there, but everything else is standard squeakyness. So it's The Cheat talk, just more distinct than previously.

Do you think he's going to speak some sort of english in later toons? Cyberdemon 20:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey, wait, has The Cheat ever spoken with his mouth open? I think everything he says is some type of humming sound. Salty^Talk! 01:22, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Nonsense! It's clearly CheatSpeak for "F*** You." --Tjsynkral 23:54, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

"College sign in coloring book?"

It looked to me that in the second page of the coloring book the Limozeen band members are giving the "Hook 'em Horns!" handsign of the University of Texas in Austin. Is this intended? It's freaking awesome. I know that band members usually give a sort of "I love you" hand sign but the sign given in the picture shows the thumb covering the two middle fingers with the index and pinky extended in a Longhorn Fashion. Agentjs03 13:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

The short version is that that gesture has a lot of meanings, is used by rock stars a lot, and is commonly confused with the sign for "I love you." Wikipedia has the long version. PolarBoy 21:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Interesting coincidence... or did I??

This was removed from the article's fun facts, but I think it merits mention somewhere.

• The Chalkboard says "SOY IS MURDER" which is odd, given that she has been previously established as a vegetarian. This may be explained by Strong Bad's message in Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2 where he tells Marzipan that tofu (a soy product) is really made of baby seals.

- Qermaq - (^T/C)  05:13, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I think the first part does not make sense. The second sentence might be OK to include. (The board says that soy is "ALSO" murder, btw.) Loafing 05:15, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

The first part neglects to mention that it says "TOO". As in, "Meat is murder, but soy is murder as well". The second part came to mind instantly for me. --DorianGray

I've readded, editing the beginning part considerably. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  05:22, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I would prefer a more neutral statement, like "Strong Bad has previously said that tofu (a soy product) is really made of baby seals." Loafing 05:26, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree, as I don't think it really was a reference to Marzipan's Answering Machine. I think it's just Marzipan going overboard with her "hippiness" (e.g., the chinchilla protest actually being a protest to get them out of her basement).--Bobo the King 09:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Baby seals is one possibility. The other is that "killing plants is no better than killing animals." Remember, she sings to vegetables, she had a seance for her plant, and made her veggie burger into homestar junior. Maybe the lesson was that plants are just as important.

and don't forget about when she decided not to cut the pumpkin off the vine. I R F 17:24, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I think this is the perfect time to use STUFF. --Trogga 19:04, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

It's related to her desire not to kill anything, not to the answering machine message. Basically, it's just a joke. Her line "So that way, you always feel guilty" illustrates this. — It's dot com 20:31, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

It's just a joke. It's like the guy on the Simpsons who said "I'm a fourth level vegan; I don't eat anything that casts a shadow." PolarBoy 22:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Pressed Bunson?

Strong Bad raises a good point: What the crap is "pressed bunson"? The Google, it does nothing. Is this a reference to something (real-world or otherwise), or is this just another bit of standard-issue H*R nonsense? --Lukeonia1 07:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

If anything, it's just nonsense. No search on Google, Yahoo! or the Wikipedia turned up anything. Noted in the article. Possibly an inside joke just between the Bros. Chaps. WaveOBabies 11:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

My guess is they just want to mess with the wiki community and its over-obsessed fans. --The Real Zajac 09:49, 23 Oct 2006 (PDT)

This is the second topic on this page where someone suggests that TBC just want to mess with the wiki. I can't believe that they would think about the wiki at all while they simply do what they like. In this case, they just made up a funny word. That's all. Loafing 20:44, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I think it's just that the crayons couldn't be soy--since that's also murder--so they just made something up. Now I'm just wondering if anybody has any ideas as to what the word bunson could be based on, if any. PolarBoy 21:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

We just call it blue

I can't remember exactly which style of art it refers to, but one of the traditional art forms, like those of the Australian Aboriginees or Native American Indians, uses black where there should be blue due to lack of natural blue pigments. I'd put it on the page but it's probably better that someone finds the type of art first... ZanderSchubert 07:53, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Most likely, black being called blue is a parody of racial things in Kindergarten and small school. --71.80.201.61 23:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Your comment is nonsensical. As a former teacher of kindergarteners, I can aver that they don't get the race differences for the large part. There are no racial things in Kindergarten. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  23:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Kindergarten?

Doesn't the fact that Missy P had a baby link in with the kindergarten thing? I don't know, it was just a thought.

Babies don't go to kindergarten. Salty^Talk! 12:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Ssh... it's close enough!

Hey, -man

Santaman, Santaman again, Monsterman, Teacherman... is it time to give -man its own page under Running Gags yet? Octan 13:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

If you're going to do that, establish a very strong initial edit; make the first edit as if you won't edit the article again. Most running gag pages will be put up for deletion if the article does not appear strong. — Lapper (talk) 14:29, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

And don't forget Marziman. — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 14:32, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

And Stinkoman. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  16:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't think Stinkoman counts. That's clearly pronounced Stinko *Man*. The others are pronounced faster, resulting in it sounding like "min", which is the joke here. -YK 20:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

And the ever-present Wrestleman. ~ Laramie, ^Wh_y? ~ 13:03, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

This just sounds like "This and that" (Or whatever it's called). This is simply part of how homestar talks funny personaly.

"This, that, and the other thing" (TTATOT), and point. It's always limited to Homestar, so it should be included, if anywhere, on his page. -YK 20:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

...Then wouldn't these, too? —BazookaJoe 21:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Hum. Point taken. I didn't even know that catagory existed. Sorry. I've been away for the last couple months, so I guess I've missed stuff. -YK 23:00, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry, we still love you. <3 —BazookaJoe 23:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Animas or Animals?

The fun facts, as well as this image, say that one of the subjects on Homestar's reportcard is "talking to animas". But when I watch it, it says "animals". What's going on? — Lappynapped 15:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I also notice that the fun facts say "blossom" is misspelled as "blossum", but it looks ok to me. Were these mistakes that have since been fixed? — Lappynapped 15:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

They both seem to have been fixed now. I watched it last night, and it said "blossum" (not sure about the animal/animas thing though). - Saturn 16:09, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, clearly the image on the page is the original release. Shortly after, they put the "l" back in "animal" (from a file cached on my computer). Then after that, they corrected "blossom" (from the current file). - Qermaq - (^T/C)  17:02, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I fixed the image.-- »Bleed0range« 18:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Vulgar...

So, should we link to Swears? --Jnelson09 20:01, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Not really a swear, but it is vulgar. Like "crap" is vulgar too. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  20:19, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Tight Pants?

Oh, you all knew this was coming, right? Well, just to be the first to throw it out there, do you think that the purple crayon is a reference to Homestar's Daisy Dukes from long pants? -Brightstar Shiner 21:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

"ballade purple" is a reference to megaman, unless ballades are naturally purple.--150.243.207.238 21:38, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

"Oh, I definitely say it's just a result of tight pants."

"Oooohh, tight paaants!"

"Sorry about that. What were we talking about?"

"The tightest of pants."

"Oh, right, right. Tight pants."

"Once again, I point the blame squarely at tight pants."

That was the exchange that immediately crossed my mind. Obviously it has a whole lot more to do with tight pants than creepy pants (which all the time get some... light globes).--Bobo the King 22:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Edit Conflict! Tight Pants...has a page, doesn't it? This is most certainly a reference, if I do say so myself. -Brightstar Shiner 22:18, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Of Age Ladies & Canada

{Change to next page, which shows Larry with two women. The text says "Larry Strong Bad always serenades the 'of-age' ladies after the show". Larry's face has been colored like Strong Bad's, and his hands have been drawn to look like red boxing gloves. The girls have the Canadian Flag colored onto their shirts.}

I believe this is a reference to Canada's recent crusade against all forms of child pronography. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon#Legal_status_in_Canada

I seriously doubt the Chaps know slash care about this whole thing with the Canada and the children and the misplaced R's... VolatileChemical 02:35, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

TBC won't be referncing Canadian stuff. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  03:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

How do you know? --Trogga 03:34, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

It's theoretically possible, of course, but I think it's pretty huge stretch. Heimstern Läufer 03:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

graduate

I went ahead and edited the article about the cheat and grills but I don't feel I worded it well... Anyway I think it's ironic how many times we see Homestar wearing a grduate's cap only to find out that he's in preschool (possible reference?) Andrew911 00:45, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Fun fact?

Should Cumin be added to fun facts? I'm not so sure it's noteworthy. (It was in Homestar's report card.) Steve Talk Contributions 01:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I think cumin is already a pretty well-known spice. Uh, it is a spice, right? Salty^Talk! 01:36, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

nuturing your inner-Life Blossom

Does anyone else think that it is odd that the crayons don't write as to not let any life blossom shine above the rest and yet they get report cards with psuedo-grades on them? Noteworthy? I R F 14:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

But we don't know that Strong Mad and Homsar's grades are any different from Homestar's. --Jay (Talk) 16:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Of course, that too would be rather, umm, interesting, if the just gave everyone the same grades to keep everyone equal. I can just hear Marzipan saying, "Oh, everyone gets roots and grass! That way, no one Life Blossom shines more than any other. Plus, the roots and grass are made of pressed bunson, so they double as a healthy snack!" Heimstern Läufer 17:00, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

The messed-up nature of the school

Here's something that I think might belong in the remarks section.

This toon continues inconsistency that is present in the H*R cartoons about school. In senior prom, Homestar and Marzipan are at their senior prom. However, in this toon, Marzipan is a teacher while Homestar is a kindergarden student.

Should this be added? --Paczjj15 16:08, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

And in high school Coach Z was a baby (the same as the rest) but in stand-up he was older than SB. I don't think TBC try too hard for absolute consistency, just whatever is funny. I R F 16:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

high school is Strong Bad's unphotographic memory.--Marvelrulez

Bean Beams

Okay, people can't agree if it's "laser beams" or "laser beans" that Strong Bad tells The Cheat to consider after "laser limes". Either one makes a certain amount of sense in the unusual context, and I can't really tell myself. --Jay (Talk) 00:09, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

True, true. I was just going to say for the record that this is indeed a close one and I can't even tell which one it is myself. —BazookaJoe 00:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I hear beans. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  02:13, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Beans speak to me too. --Benn 05:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I heard "beams" first time through, but repeated listenings aren't clear enough to swing me either way... --phlip ^T_C 05:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I distinctly hear beams, which makes more sense than the other (which admittedly makes a tiny amount, if you think about it a while). --DorianGray

I think both make sense, but I distinctly hear "beams". Loafing 09:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Pronunciation

I think maybe under "Real-World References" we should mention how Homestar's pronunciation of "crayons" as "crowns" is a parody of the tendancy of people in some regions (for example, many of the suburbs of Chicago) to pronounce "crayons" as "crans." Or would this be better placed on a page about Homestar's vocal mannerisms? As a mispronunciation, it's almost Coach Z-esque; kind of makes me wonder how he pronounces it...

It's because he's portrayed as a kindergartener in this email. Note the use of "bafroom", "liberry", and "pie pie comics". --Jay (Talk) 01:11, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I suppose that rules it out as being just another of Homestar's mannerisms, but I think the Real-World Reference is still apt, since it's the only mispronunciation they actually call him on.

I think it's a real world reference. Many kids mispronounce it as "crowns" beyond the kindergarden stage. Me and my siblings were some of them. - Joshua 02:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Homestar mispronounces tons of stuff. "Total wave" and "doingg" come to mind. Octan 03:04, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Goody Marzipan

I added a thing to the article, but it seems to be totally gone, and i can't even find it in the history. Did someone delete it, or did we lose it in the upgrade? I wrote about how Goody Marzipan refers to the word Goody, being short for Goodwife meaning a married woman.

It's currently in STUFF. Please vote! --DorianGray