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How is the Ilko easter eg a reference to final fantasy games? I personally don't see the connection.(On a side note, that easter egg gives me the creeps)
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How is the Ilko easter egg a reference to final fantasy games? I personally don't see the connection.(On a side note, that easter egg gives me the creeps). Perhaps someone would like to elaborate?
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I thought it was a little creepy.  [[User:Catman87]]
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:Ugh, I did too. I don't like Ilko much. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 04:19, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
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Speaking of the Cruis'n World theory: It seems valid enough that that's the source of the image, but if you hit up YouTube and watch that easter egg, there's no conveyor belt sound effect.
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==Closed STUFF==
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===Get outta here kid? (DECLINED)===
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Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"
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*'''Decline'''  If this fact stretches anymore it’ll snap in half. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
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** I understand it's not exact, but why else would the word "kid" be used.
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***Because it's a commonly used turn of phrase?
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*'''Here DECLINES the Cheata- There DECLINES the Cheatachu! Yeah, shut up kid!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** Please vote in a fashion that would give us the impression that your IQ surpasses your shoe size. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:15, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Seconding a Decline pun''' It is with a solemn heart that the word "kid" is used regularly in real life, and that I don't care. So, yeah. That's it. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|<span style="color:#DC143C">MK and/or BurnBox</span>]] 23:23, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**Second. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 03:04, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**Like I don't get two jillion of these Fun Facts every two jillion '''Second'''s! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:27, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' Way too much of a stretch. Seriously. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 22:13, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** '''Second''' --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*** '''Second''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''DECLINE!'''  'Nuff said.  [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM EDT June 5 2005.
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*'''I'll let you decline... er... decide''' OMG STRONG BAD SAYS "THE" IN THIS E-MAIL WHICH IS A REFERENCE TO HOMESTAR SAYING "PAMCAKES" OMG OMG. [[User:SP|SP]]
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**'''Second,''' if that's possible. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:35, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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* Uhh...um..yeah, Imma gonna give this 1 a '''SUPER DECLINE!!!'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 00:40, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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== The keytar in the email is a Yamaha SHS-10 ==
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The keytar [[Bubs]] plays in this email is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_SHS-10 Yamaha SHS-10].
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Keytar.jpg Picture of a Yamaha SHS-10]
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The SHS-10 is a red keytar (a rare silver edition exists), that was considered to be the cheapest midi-controller at the time in the late 80's. At 100$, it was almost a toy-synth but with professional features like midi out , a pitch-bend and a two digits led display. It also has internal sounds and a speaker, so it can play music on its own (unlike many other midi-controller keytars).
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In the cassette tape easter-egg tune made by [[Bubs]] and [[Coach Z]], one of the two synth instruments is the default SHS-10 instrument number 00, which is called incidentally "synthesizer".: [[User:VL-Tone|VL-Tone]] 06:59, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)
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:Yup.  See [[Bubs' keytar]].  Perhaps you could add to some to that article?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:53, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)
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::Oh, I didn't noticed this page, it's not linked on the [[cheatday]] article. I'm a little shy about editing pages here, but I'll do my best :) [[User:VL-Tone|VL-Tone]] 03:45, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)
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== The sender. ==
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This segmant was edded to the page by an annoy:
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The Submiter of the email signed it as Mike, Colorado. I think Mike, Colorado was cut down to Mike CO turned into Mike Control.
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Is there a way to confirm this? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:10, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
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:Unless the IP contributor knows the Mike in question, no. It's a reasonable speculation, since CO is the postal abbreviation for Colorado, but just that. It could be his initials for all we know. &mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:31, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
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== The wrong system ==
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Has anybody noticed that, due to the use of the US (or maybe the Imperial) measurement system, Skevüld's fake ID wouldn't make it far in Scandinavia? The English labels are plausible, but 293kg and 6-9cm would seem too far-fetched to any Scandinavian. <nowiki>~~</nowiki>[[User:RavuAlHemio|Ravu]] 19:33, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
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== "Scandnavian" ==
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I'm surprised to find that I'm apparently the first to notice this, but Strong Bad actually mistypes "Scandinavian" as "Scandnavian". You have to be quick since it's only visible for a split second, after the ID card disappears but before he clears the screen. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 03:13, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
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== Magenta border around Ilko's head - Goof? ==
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I just noticed that there's a thin magenta border around Ilko's kead in the easter egg at the end. I don't know how this toon was made, but I know that magenta is sometimes used as a transparency key for rectangular images, and that when a transparency-keyed image is resized or reformatted, what was originally supposed to be rendered as transparent can become blurred with the parts of the image that are supposed to be rendered as non-transparent, leaving a miscolored border around it. This is a common goof in transparency keying.
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To make a technical story short, the picture of Ilko's head seems to have been resized or reformatted after it was transparency keyed, and I think this should be included in the Goofs section.
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:Technically I think it's more of a glitch.  Good eye.  Oh, and sign your posts. {{User:BubsHeadStand/sig}}
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== Miners, not minors! ==
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I was gonna revert {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Ages_of_Characters&diff=783515&oldid=781581 these edits}} for speculation, but then I noticed that the remarks section here says:
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<blockquote>"It's possible that Ilko being a "miner" is a play on the purpose of the fake ID (an attempt to persuade people that The Cheat isn't a minor)."</blockquote>
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Do we have anything to base this assumption off of besides speculation? It appears that it was {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=cheatday&diff=63371&oldid=61314 added in 2005}} and subsequently {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=cheatday&diff=128240&oldid=124379 cleaned up somewhat}}, but I don't see any indication that this is the joke being made. If that IS the intended joke, it's super subtle, IMO. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 06:29, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
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:Attempting to pass as a non-minor is among the most common reasons to use a fake ID (particularly [[tvtropes:Main/MinorWithFakeID|in fiction]]), and they are homophones, so I wouldn't say it's that far of a leap. {{User:DEIDATVM/sig}} 18:54, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
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::Yeah, that's what I always assumed the joke was. I've never really considered the alternative. And yeah, it's subtle, but how else would you do it? Having Strong Bad say "it sounds like minor" would ruin the joke. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 23:11, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

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[edit] Facts removed

The Cheat signs his name in l33t, apparently showing off his tech savvy.

"Teh" is not l33t. "Th3" or "T3h" would be l33t. "Teh" is just funky spelling.

The back of Ilko's hair is the same design as the Cheat's.

Noted in the transcript. --150.254.78.105 05:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

[edit] Talk about an old note

For a discussion on some of these fun facts and how they have been handled, see this forum thread. Please check it out before further editing.

Yeah, I just removed this note from last July. I've put it here for posterity. Or something like that. -- Tom 17:52, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
Maybe a little prosperity? --the big dog 10:15, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
It's-a really old! -Walking Armless

[edit] Ilko

How is the Ilko easter egg a reference to final fantasy games? I personally don't see the connection.(On a side note, that easter egg gives me the creeps). Perhaps someone would like to elaborate?

I thought it was a little creepy. User:Catman87

Ugh, I did too. I don't like Ilko much. — talk Bubsty edits 04:19, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Speaking of the Cruis'n World theory: It seems valid enough that that's the source of the image, but if you hit up YouTube and watch that easter egg, there's no conveyor belt sound effect.

[edit] Closed STUFF

[edit] Get outta here kid? (DECLINED)

Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"

  • Decline If this fact stretches anymore it’ll snap in half. The Pardack
    • I understand it's not exact, but why else would the word "kid" be used.
      • Because it's a commonly used turn of phrase?
  • Here DECLINES the Cheata- There DECLINES the Cheatachu! Yeah, shut up kid! Cheatachu72 15:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Please vote in a fashion that would give us the impression that your IQ surpasses your shoe size. Rudeboy87 13:15, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Seconding a Decline pun It is with a solemn heart that the word "kid" is used regularly in real life, and that I don't care. So, yeah. That's it. -MK and/or BurnBox 23:23, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. GG Crono 03:04, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Like I don't get two jillion of these Fun Facts every two jillion Seconds! --Upset_Your_Balance 14:27, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Way too much of a stretch. Seriously. Crystallina 22:13, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second --Eytanz 13:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • DECLINE! 'Nuff said. James Craven 6:43 PM EDT June 5 2005.
  • I'll let you decline... er... decide OMG STRONG BAD SAYS "THE" IN THIS E-MAIL WHICH IS A REFERENCE TO HOMESTAR SAYING "PAMCAKES" OMG OMG. SP
    • Second, if that's possible. - aaronak 11:35, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Uhh...um..yeah, Imma gonna give this 1 a SUPER DECLINE!!!Pac-man 00:40, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. -- tomstiff 13:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The keytar in the email is a Yamaha SHS-10

The keytar Bubs plays in this email is a Yamaha SHS-10.

Picture of a Yamaha SHS-10

The SHS-10 is a red keytar (a rare silver edition exists), that was considered to be the cheapest midi-controller at the time in the late 80's. At 100$, it was almost a toy-synth but with professional features like midi out , a pitch-bend and a two digits led display. It also has internal sounds and a speaker, so it can play music on its own (unlike many other midi-controller keytars).

In the cassette tape easter-egg tune made by Bubs and Coach Z, one of the two synth instruments is the default SHS-10 instrument number 00, which is called incidentally "synthesizer".: VL-Tone 06:59, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Yup. See Bubs' keytar. Perhaps you could add to some to that article? -- Tom 12:53, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Oh, I didn't noticed this page, it's not linked on the cheatday article. I'm a little shy about editing pages here, but I'll do my best :) VL-Tone 03:45, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The sender.

This segmant was edded to the page by an annoy:

The Submiter of the email signed it as Mike, Colorado. I think Mike, Colorado was cut down to Mike CO turned into Mike Control.

Is there a way to confirm this? Elcool (talk)(contribs) 16:10, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Unless the IP contributor knows the Mike in question, no. It's a reasonable speculation, since CO is the postal abbreviation for Colorado, but just that. It could be his initials for all we know. —AbdiViklas 17:31, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The wrong system

Has anybody noticed that, due to the use of the US (or maybe the Imperial) measurement system, Skevüld's fake ID wouldn't make it far in Scandinavia? The English labels are plausible, but 293kg and 6-9cm would seem too far-fetched to any Scandinavian. ~~Ravu 19:33, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Scandnavian"

I'm surprised to find that I'm apparently the first to notice this, but Strong Bad actually mistypes "Scandinavian" as "Scandnavian". You have to be quick since it's only visible for a split second, after the ID card disappears but before he clears the screen. - furrykef (Talk at me) 03:13, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Magenta border around Ilko's head - Goof?

I just noticed that there's a thin magenta border around Ilko's kead in the easter egg at the end. I don't know how this toon was made, but I know that magenta is sometimes used as a transparency key for rectangular images, and that when a transparency-keyed image is resized or reformatted, what was originally supposed to be rendered as transparent can become blurred with the parts of the image that are supposed to be rendered as non-transparent, leaving a miscolored border around it. This is a common goof in transparency keying.

To make a technical story short, the picture of Ilko's head seems to have been resized or reformatted after it was transparency keyed, and I think this should be included in the Goofs section.

Technically I think it's more of a glitch. Good eye. Oh, and sign your posts. BHS · Talk to me

[edit] Miners, not minors!

I was gonna revert these edits for speculation, but then I noticed that the remarks section here says:

"It's possible that Ilko being a "miner" is a play on the purpose of the fake ID (an attempt to persuade people that The Cheat isn't a minor)."

Do we have anything to base this assumption off of besides speculation? It appears that it was added in 2005 and subsequently cleaned up somewhat, but I don't see any indication that this is the joke being made. If that IS the intended joke, it's super subtle, IMO. — Defender1031*Talk 06:29, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Attempting to pass as a non-minor is among the most common reasons to use a fake ID (particularly in fiction), and they are homophones, so I wouldn't say it's that far of a leap. DEI DAT VMdatvm center\super contra 18:54, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, that's what I always assumed the joke was. I've never really considered the alternative. And yeah, it's subtle, but how else would you do it? Having Strong Bad say "it sounds like minor" would ruin the joke. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 23:11, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
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