Talk:The Paper

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The Paper is a featured article, which means it showcases an important part of the Homestar Runner body of work and/or highlights the fine work of this wiki. We also might just think it's cool. If you see a way this page can be updated or improved without compromising previous work, feel free to contribute.

Should this be under some directory? like...thingies or something? Just a thought. -- AgentSeethroo 14:48, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)

That's a good question. I know we'll have something like "Inside Jokes", where most the stuff form the "InsideJokes" page will go. Then there's going to be the stuff that was in the Rejects. They aren't going to be "Rejects", and they will all have their own page, but yeah, we'll have to have a catagory or something for them. The Paper... I don't know. I know there's a "Characters" catagory, and a "Main Characters" category for "The Twelve", but I can't think of anything right now. -- Tom 15:15, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)

This could sound kinda silly, but we can put the paper in a section called "Integral Elements", along with SB's comp. and stuff like that, like things that aren't characters or settings, but are integral to each SBEmail or whatever. Whatcha think? -- AgentSeethroo 15:53, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)

Hmm... Is this where Coach Z's "Z" would go? How about Strong Mad's singlet? Homestar's hat? The stool? The get up noise? Strong Bad's shoe? Marzipan's hair? Where do we draw the line? Arg. -- Tom 16:30, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)

Well, you pose a good question. I think the "Integral Elements" is a good idea for the important stuff like compy and whatnot...for the unimportant, I think maybe we can have a "Misc." or "Odds'n'Ends" type thing...but you're right...a line has to be drawn. Arg indeed. -- AgentSeethroo 20:51, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)

E-mail Address

I'm not certain when it happened, but some time ago, the paper changed from simply

Click here to e-mail strong bad

to include his e-mail address. When was that? --oddtodd 15:22, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)

It changed in 21, cartoon. --Southpaw018 16:16, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)

DVD

Apparently there are some more The Paper oddities in the Strong Bad DVD. I don't own the DVD but could someone who does please update this page to reflect this? ~Hobo|^talk

• I have the DVD. The paper says "The End" on there. ---DumDe

Gender

More of an interesting observation, but does that mean that The Printer is Female (invisibility) and The Paper is Male (animal)? Wow...

Nope, see the last bullet.

• The Paper and the printer are therefore separate identities, as The Paper is male and the printer is female. I'm guessing The Paper is the printer's son.

I removed the recently-added information above as it simply refers to information stated in previous 'oddity' bullets. The part about guessing that The Paper is the printer's son is merely speculation and if it were reworded somehow to be more professional I think it could return to the article. --The Paper 19:24, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)

What's with all this stuff about assigning the inanimate objects gender? I mean, we call boats "she" but we don't say they're actually female. It could just be a figure of speech (although the ending to animal implies that The Paper is intelligent, which means it may actually have a gender.)

Well, we're not talking about a normal world here... with humans... so the inanimate objects could have genders. -- Asploder

Besides, since when is the paper an inanimate object? It seems to have a mind of its own. — _talk Bubsty _edits 18:13, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Does not seem to have a printer?

Stong Band has a printer in the the processing room! --VolatileChemical 01:21, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Stong Band? Is that some sort of elastic cord maker? Joking, of course... Yes, you are right about the printer in that old looping clip. But this still doesn't answer or shed any light on how the printer can somehow "invert" itself (because it nearly always prints downward) or how it seems to manifest itself out of the clear blue skies in several toons and emails. I don't think we'll ever know. Well, perhaps once we see Strong Bad Email #173, if the montage inkjet printer upgrade story can be trusted. —THE PAPER ^PREEEOW 03:58, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This is OT, but isn't Stong Band what Monkey D's shirt said in vacation?

Maybe...THERE IS NO PRINTER, and the paper is a natural Phenomenon? Poopskin 13:06, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Preeeow

What is the canon spelling of The Paper's sound effect? This page says it's "preeeow", but Strong Bad types it as "Prreeow" in haircut, and on the note at the end of part-time job he spells it "preeeeow". Which is it?? -Polly 08:39, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I think you might be reading too far into it. Given that even TBC can't keep it consistent, let's just say that it has a variable number of Rs (at least 1) and Es (at least 2) and leave it at that. --Jay (Talk) 19:28, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Font?

What is the font used on The Paper?

Fonts. --Jay (Talk) 21:25, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

TBC refer to The Paper as a character.

In the animal DVD commentary, TBC refer to The Paper as a character. Shouldn't this be considered official, as all the consensus in the world shouldn't override the creator's opinions, right? (I have a feeling I'm treading on thin ice, here...) - Kookykman(t)(c)(r)

Well, it's not a real, bona fide character because it's too much of a thing. It's not an true item because it has too much personality. That's why it's listed as a pseudocharacter, which we have defined as something that "for some reason or another treated as real people by the other characters" (or TBC, you could probably add to the end of that). — It's dot com 01:21, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

It's actually surprising how willing the citizens of Free Country, USA are to naming and assigning personality to inatimate objects... - Kookykman(t)(c)(r)

The Paper seems to be self-aware so I don't think it should really be a pseudo character. Strong Sader

Save the Paper?

The Paper will NOT be replaced in email 173. It says that Strong Bad will get a new PRINTER. Paper can still come out of it, right? --Marth 99

That's true, but TBC probably won't replace The Paper because of a small comment made in an email. ♥ _tee^eff_oh! 18:59, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

By the way, if you read carefully, it says that The Paper stuck around until email 173, meaning that (according to montage) once email 173 comes along, it's gone. — Has Matt? (talk) 19:01, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

the process

At the end of the process, the camera zooms out from the Compy after the Paper comes down, and we can still see the Paper sitting above the Compy. Is that the only time we see the Paper not occupying the whole top of the screen?

There's also the ending of extra plug. --DorianGray

Built-in printer

In redesign, were they trying to imply that The Paper actually comes out of a built-in printer that is part of Strong Bad's computers? This might make sense with the Tandy and Compy, but the Lappy has a flat-screen monitor just like The Cheat's. — It's dot com 18:16, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

The way I interpreted it was that Strong Bad thought The Cheat's computer was somehow crippled by the fact that it didn't have the "back half" that Tangerine Dreams did. SB most likely just doesn't understand how a computer that's all-monitor like The Cheat's new iMac can still function as a whole computer. —  KieferSkunk (talk) — 19:39, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Haven't all of Strong Bad's computers been "all-monitor"? I think he was more confused with how his monitor is so thin. —Zelinda 01:04, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Good point. Still, he may have thought something was missing from The Cheat's computer because of the physical difference. And actually, the Lappy is less "all-monitor" than the Tandy and Compy, since most people understand that the actual computer part of a laptop is in the same box as the keyboard, rather than in with the monitor. It was never clear where the actual computer resided in the previous two units. —  KieferSkunk (talk) — 01:14, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I think that his comment definitely implies that The Paper is built in to his computers. It definitely explains why we can never actually see The Paper, but when we see the back of the Lappy in isp, there doesn't appear to be anywhere for paper to come out.· · T²|_Things 16:11, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Capital what?

This discussion was taken from Talk:The paper before it was turned into a redirect to this talk page:

How in the crap for crap? — Joey (talk·edits) 11:58, 28 Jul 2004 (MST)

Heh, I'm having the same problem with "Pom Pom", "Pom pom", and "pom pom". See Talk:Pom pom. I don't have a clue. -- Tom 12:06, 28 Jul 2004 (MST)

More Armies

I added The Paper's scene at the end of more armies as evidence that something will happen to it. Just in case anyone was about to do it somewhere else.-- Nevadie 20:39, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Death

Shouldn't there be some sort of Memorial for The Paper somewhere on this page? Cyberdemon 02:35, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate the sentiment, but this talk page (assuming you meant the talk page and not the article) is for discussing the article, not for memorializing characters... not even my favourite man with the green and white stripes. :'-( Heimstern Läufer 02:59, 3 June 2008 (UTC) Preeeeow forever

I have The Paper's Epitath on my User Page --Wi2K Talk-Favorites-173 12:04, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

"You keep sucking just enough to stay interesting."

The email hygiene, in which New Papes prints a test pattern and Strong Bad makes the above comment, doesn't seem to be listed anywhere here. Under which section would it fall?

In the transcript for hygiene. Oh and look, it's already there. — Defender1031*Talk 21:32, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Also on NEW Paper's page. This isn't the page for the New Paper. --Jay (Talk) 21:33, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Image

Shouldn't we use an image of The Paper that came down in some email like... haircut! "Enough already, Strong Bad" can sure get in the way of things. Some newbies will think that it is the Paper's normal text. --Fangoriously 15:42, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

What newbies would type in "The Paper" before watching a Strong Bad Email? BBG 17:24, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I agree the image should be changed. We want such images to be as generic as possible, and this is no exception. RickTommy (edits) 00:32, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Character Papier

S#0|_||_d \/\/3 1|\|c|_|_|d3 73# P4p3r 1|\| 73# c#4r4c73r p4r7 0|= 73# SB3|\/|41|_ P4632? -35p3m0n333

Translation: Should we include The Paper in the character part of the SBEmail Pages? -Espemon333

Sorry, about 't3h l33t.' I thought it would make for good TP.

Oh no, that's totally my fault (on the revert), you're fine. I think it's best that we still consider him a pseudocharacter. He doesn't do enough to be considered a major character. —Soiled Bargains ^(talk|ctrb) 16:49, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Bike Thief

Why should it be listed in "When it's not the paper" when we KNOW it's not the Paper, because it's new paper? Shoud every email from 174 to current be added to the list and say: The Paper does not come down, instead New Paper/Envelope Paper/Compé-per comes down/up. SBE-mail Checker Dan (akka HRE-mail Checker Greg) 19:24, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

That's hardly a fair comparison. The other emails don't contain an imitation of The Real Paper; bike thief does. Heimstern Läufer 06:55, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

New Paper is A HUGE imitation of The Paper! They even have the same last name! SBE-mail Checker Dan 23:34, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

With all due respect, that makes no sense at all. Heimstern Läufer 23:35, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

New Paper is a complete imitation of The Paper, because he's pretty much named New The Paper, without the The. We KNOW that in bike theif it isn't the paper, so why should it be there?

Weird opinions about name choice that don't actually make any sense aside, the "When it's not the paper" section is for instances before the paper got replaced, with the exception of the time that New Paper pretended to be this paper, as you cannot possibly make the argument that that's not a reference to this paper. — Defender1031*Talk 04:20, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

And I don't think Heimy or Deffy mentioned this, in ALL of the examples, we know it's not the paper, so your other arguement doesn't work either. StrongAwesome 04:37, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Our argument boils down to two important points:

1. New Paper printed itself out in an imitation of The Paper, which is relevant to the article and should be noted somewhere.
2. New Paper is not The Paper, so "When it's not The Paper" is the best fit for where it should be noted.

Other than bike thief, New Paper did not directly imitate The Paper (other than their both being papers), which is why we don't list every email after the paper singly. — It's dot com 21:33, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Where the paper lived

"It is shown in 'the paper' that Strong Bad had its printer above his desk, but it is still unclear exactly to what it was attached. "

Umm, I'm going to have to differ. Bubs installed the inkjet printer just above the frame, not above Strong Bad's desk. Presumably, that's exactly where the original was. That's what gave it the abilty to transcend time and space--whatever was in the frame, the paper was just above it. It's basically the same gag as how Homestar usually watches the emails from behind "the black" to one side of the frame.

That... kind of makes sense, actually. -132.183.138.198 18:43, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

The Paper/New Paper's printer is mounted on top of the camera. Obviously. --Emtu 22:40, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

GOT IT!

I Figured Out what the paper is!

An Epson MX-80!

I want! 99.49.192.223 23:39, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Similar, but not canon. I say the forums would be a better place to bring it up.--Jellote wuz here 00:45, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Well, if it were demonstrably based on that printer model, such info would be relevant to the article, but I'm not sure we can be certain of that. -132.183.151.135 03:27, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, an old wiki article shoed the MX-80, so I thought they were the same. I suppose I should put this on the forum, but there might be a section on this in the page if i can get a decent enough image. It does fit the "thirty year old electronics" part, too. 99.49.192.223 18:21, 22 July 2010 (UTC) (i lost my password, But my name is Michael Emil Malloy