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XML

Did anyone notice that you can download and edit the XML files to create new levels? This could be good for the Fanstuff Wiki, if anyone gets it working. --EDSMILDE

- Care to share where they are? :) --AndrewNeo 18:05, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

Well, I think you have to edit the flash file to get them to work offline first (which is not too hard). They are at:

[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]

Those are the ones I found in my temp folder (even though I didn't get to those levels). If you go to View -> Page Source in Firefox, you can kinda figure out how it works (maybe). --EDSMILDE Edit: Darn, the links don't work. They are in some other folder. Once I figure out the folder name, the game will work offline. And they don't show up on Google yet.

Ooh - found it - They're in another folder called "levelData." EDSMILDE

-As a note for other people wanting to edit, you need to get the 5 level files, the main swf, and the object library: [7]. (You can see some game graphics if you view that file)

It's a pretty simple almost-XML format, I'm making a level editor for it now. Travis Wells

Woah. New enemy in that library. If anything confirms another set of levels coming up, that would. --Shadow Hog 15:07, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
Hey, I was just about to make a level editor for it, but it probably won't be very good. EDSMILDE
Hey, if you decompile the flash file for the game you'll see there is already a level editor in there on the script for sprite 761. Unfortunately I don't know anything about flash, so I don't know what to do with that, or how to get to it, but someone must.
I'm working on an editor written in VB using the MSXML library. --breadtangle 18:30, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)

I know all about Flash, but I don't have a decompiler -NonHacka

NOTE: With the release of Stinkoman 20X6 v6, those links have become outdated. The new ones are here. --videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif, 16:48, 4 August 2005 (BST)
EDIT: Moved all links to my user page.

Arghh...I Made the installation program but i need a site to upload it onto. Can someone tell me one? --- [[User:Pertmywert|Pertmywert|Talk Contributions]]

Email it to me and I'll host it for you, if you'd like. --phlip 08:02, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
http://phlip.websiteallies.com/Stinkoman_20X6_Install.exe --phlip 12:28, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
Thanks philip for hosting it but remember i made itJoel|Talk Contributions
Pertmywert has sent me the new version: http://phlip.websiteallies.com/Stinkoman_20X6_Install_v3.exe - I'll keep the v2 one up incase anyone's interested. --phlip 23:44, 9 May 2005 (UTC)


I already have a great working editor for this game, a new version has just been released. Check it out here: http://www.geocities.com/joesarcade/stinkoman.zip or here: http://joesarcade.hopto.org:8093/stinkoman.zip

Can someone please make a level editor compatible with MacOS?--Darklinkskywalker 20:38, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

  • OH WHAT THE CRAP!!!! Do need Flash or something for this? Not Flash Player, but the animator thingie? Every time I click on a link it doesnt work!!! PLEASE HELP!!!
Which links are you trying to click on, the ones in this section, the ones on the Stinkoman 20X6 page, or the ones on my user page? --videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif, 16:50, 4 August 2005 (BST)

Closed STUFF

These Fun Facts were on STUFF and declined. If you want to discuss these facts, please make sure your votes are seperate from the original ones.

Stlunko

Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...

  • ...the final boss in the Donkey Kong game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
  • ...Gamma from Mega Man 3.
  • ...Rudy, the final boss of Wario Land 3.
  • ...Kerozene, a boss added to the Game Boy Advance version of Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest.
  • Decline. If this isn't a TTATOT, I don't know what is. --Beatfox 23:19, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 16:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline, you're not trying hard enough - I'm sure you could think of lots more bosses that involve fists somehow if you tried... --phlip 20:29, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. I usually like these kind of Fun Facts, but it sounds like you're just not trying here. Pick one. TK600 20:08, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
      • Well, if I had to pick one, I'd definitely pick the first one; it's what the original one stated, and mentioning only that wouldn't be such a TTATOT. --Shadow Hog 02:23, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Rose Blake

When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

  • Double Decliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiined! Seriously, can we stop stretching Fun Facts as far as they can possibly be stretched? --ISlayedTheKerrek 15:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Slightly like? Oh, man! -- tomstiff 15:55, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline for the pudgy! Decline for the pudgy! -- Kiwi 16:55, 28 Apr 2005
  • Gimme a D-cline. --Beatfox 23:22, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Black Spots

Stinkoman doesn't have any black spots on his cheeks for the ripped off sprites

  • Decline Maybe if I understood what this was saying I might like it more, but it still doesn't seem right. What do you guys think? -- Joshua 20:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Declininated I don't get it. Kiwi 17:10, 19 Apr 2005
  • Allow me I THINK what is being said is this:
The black portion of Stinkoman's mask is missing in his sprite form, because
it is a ripoff of Megaman sprites.
  • However, this is pretty useless AND false (it's not a ripoff of Megaman sprites, just strongly based on them.) Most old, small sprites lack detail seen in their fully-drawn form. So I must concur with Decline. --Jay 21:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • And you can't see Mario's nostrils in Super Mario Bros. So? Let's Declining Love Dasrik 23:59, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you asking for a Decline?!? --Beatfox 00:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline If you look at the bottom of Stinkoman's white area you can see little black lines so this 'fact' is false The_Pardack

Tampo

The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

  • DeclineThis is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And tempo?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --Ogog
    • Comment Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --Jay 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
      • Decline The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --Joshua 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline Big stretch in both cases. And a Comment to Ogog, make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --TheEggman 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second. Er, the vote, that is. --Shadow Hog 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Sleckhund. --Beatfox 23:24, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Er... The meaning of Tempo might be he is going faster.
  • Comment Or it could also be a reference to tampons... Um, actually, no, forget that I said that.

Dude, Whomever thought of ths had no idea of an alternative. Maybe it's a bad translation. Or he isn't very mean and also doesn't taste very good.

Brody

Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

  • DeclineAside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --Ogog
    • Second Dasrik 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Panzerschrecken'd. --Beatfox 23:26, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 16:09, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Engrish

The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

  • DeclineThere is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --Ogog
  • Weak Accept I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --TheEggman 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline; noted at the top of the page. --Shadow Hog 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Thanks for immortalizing the fact into my fragile little mind, fact-writer. All Your Second Are Belong To Us SP'd
    • Second the Decrine. --Beatfox 23:28, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 16:07, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. Decline Dasrik 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Stone Fist

When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

  • DeclineSame as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --Ogog
  • Accept Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --TheEggman 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --Shadow Hog 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Accept! Extremejon
  • I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? Decline Dasrik 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
  • Decline Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --Joshua 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Second Kvb 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline I think it is pretty much already stated. --User: Lappy 486
    • And now that more levels are actually coming out, saying more levels will come out is completely useless. user: lappy 486
  • Decline Now that a new level using the stone fist has been released, this is utterly useless. Aurora the Homestar Coder 22:06, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Control Scheme

The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.

  • Decline. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -PolarBoy 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second. --MZilla 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
  • Decline. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -Joshua 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
    • Second. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --thatkidsam 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline, mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in MMAC...). --Shadow Hog 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Second and a comment. Hey, the Jump-with-B, Shoot-with-A scheme worked for Metroid Prime, why not MMAC? :P Hehe, oh well. :) -JakeARoonie 16:28, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
  • Decline This is waaay too big of a stretch. Dasrik 02:26, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline w/Comment I've been playing MMAC on the Gamecube recently. The button layout is not that convoluted at all - once you get used to it, it's second-nature. --Jay 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline I didn't think that MMAC or Stinkoman 20X6's control schemes were "poor". Sorry you got frustrated, but looking here, the majority didn't. --acekirby13 14:01, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Accept As a video game lover, I've gotta say that I am pretty used to using the right-most button to jump and the left-most button to fire. Just water this fact down a bit. -Miss Free Country USA
  • Declorne Uh... so? SP

Stoves

Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

  • DeclineTo quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --Ogog
  • Decline This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --TheEggman 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
  • Decline maybe 20x6 is 2006... ever thought of that, smart guy? Dasrik 02:32, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Decline Assumption! 20X6 can be anything from 2006-2096, and I hardly think gas will run out before next year. Though the 20X6 world looks much more futuristic, it's not proven that gas runs out in the Homestar Universe, like Ogog said. --acekirby13 19:28, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Comment 20x6 could also be 20106. Maybe by that time more oil will be found.
      • Response. 20x6 is NOT 20106. I've always found the "x" to mean that it's a wildcard, meaning it could be 2006, 2016, 2026, etc. - as in time capsule, it's highly unlikely that a Number One Jam cassette or a gross old wig in a time capsule wouldn't have decomposed in 18,000 years. --TheEggman
        • Actually, its very likely since plastic, and many fabrics dont decompose at all. The magnetic tape in the casette might have decomposed but that wouldnt have mattered because Stinkoman ate the casette, not played it.---erson 23:40, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • But doesnt a Capital X mean the greek number for 10, and a miniscule x stand for a variable? ---erson 18:48, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
        • A capital X signifies a Roman numeral 10. And variables are usually lowercase, but if you don't have a character set with upper- and lowercase letters (like most old video games), then you just have to make do with what you got. (See also Rabbit Algebra, which seems to mix the two.) — It's dot com 21:47, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
        • Does anyone else feel that 20X6 is simply a brilliant joke? Don't try to place it into a timeline, just leave it silly, as it is. --J
  • Decline. Does the author of this FF purport to have insider knowledge of TBC's fictitious world? Beatfox 01:10, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • DeclineI'll quote myself, damnit! just kidding, quote me all you want. But, to reiterate, What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power.--geoguy91 01:06, 5 May 2005 (UTC)


Ladder difference

The ladders in level 5.2 look slightly different from those of level 5.1.

Posted on: 18:34, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Closed: 19:08, 4 Jul 2005 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was revised and accepted, 4–2. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/Stinkoman 20X6.

Different Colors

The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

Posted on: 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Closed: 00:56, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was unanimously declined, 5–0. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/Stinkoman 20X6.

Tiny eye difference

The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.

Posted on: 16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Closed: 01:00, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was revised and accepted, 5–1. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/Stinkoman 20X6.

Liekand's magic powers

Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.

Posted on: 12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Closed: 02:15, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was unanimously declined, 5–0. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/Stinkoman 20X6.

Weird glitch.

My brother's a big fan of this game. One day, long ago, we we're checking out the Continue Menu, and ALL THE LEVELS WERE THERE!!!! My brother noticed the strange thing that happened, and swore that he didn't make all this happen. He didn't have a clue of what was going on. Then I thought, This is obviously a rare glitch. I didn't do anything. So now when I see "stinkoman level <#>!" on the main page, I go the game and click "CONTINUE" and I check it out. Pretty cool, huh? I'm just wondering if anyone else expierenced this glitch. --oopsyoubwokeit 20:14, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

That's not a glitch. Everyone can access all the levels, at all times. The only time when levels were hidden was when there were only three. Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 20:19, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Well, also, you can't access stage #.2 until you beat #.1. But you can access all of the #.1s at any time. --Jay (Talk) 20:20, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Right, forgot about that. Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 20:22, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Oh yeah, and when a new level is released, the previously released one's .2 is now accessible. - oopsyoubwokeit

I see. That's probably also why my grandmother's computer has it too. Oh welll. List of levels my brother hasn't beaten yet:

Levels:

  • 5.2 (It's pretty hard, my brother can't get though the uptants in a row)
  • 7.2 (My brother has beaten this level at grandmother's, but when we came back it was gone.)
  • 8.1 (For some reason, it came out today. My brother can't play it because he's still asleep. That, and the computer can't access the game.)
  • 8.2 (Ditto.)

Bosses:

  • Tampo (Even if it's the first level boss. it was supposed to be easy.)
  • Nebulon (If you can't beat the .2 level, you can't see/beat the boss.)
  • The Liekand (He has seen it, though.)
  • An Ice Machine (Ditto with The Leikand.)
  • Unnamed Boss (For the reason he can't play Level 8.)

G'bye. --oopsyoubwokeit 13:17, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

  • Well, TBC are assuming you've beat all the levels so far, and doesn't want good players to get frustrated at playing the levels all over again each time stinkoman updates. --Gooblies 00:56, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Let me get ths straight. You were able to gain access to all of the levels? How did you do it? Were you able to get to level 10? -Lotionman 07:51, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)Lotionman

This is 100% normal. You can reach stage 1 of every level no matter what, at least, since level 4 was released. Of course he wasn't able to get to level 10. --Jay (Talk) 08:10, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)

XML Page

Should we make a page for the stinkoman XML files? --– Pertmywert (Talk·Edits) 07:44, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I already did. And it includes the externalSwf files as well. --videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif, 12:45, 2 August 2005 (BST)
I mean a proper page and not a user page like Stinkoman/XML --– Pertmywert (Talk·Edits) 22:19, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Fall and die?

I'm playing a web version (from i-am-bored.com), and all that happens is that Stinkoman falls down the screen and dies, no ground, no bosses, WTF is going on?

Don't even acronym swears, and just use the one of Homestar runner.com those web ones are unrealiable. Rogue Leader / (my talk)

My guess is that they only saved stinkogame.swf without the levelData or externalSwf files. --videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif, 02:48, 3 August 2005 (BST)
how can a normal person (like me) save everything onto their (my) computer?--StrongBad110990 18:19, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Your best bet is to download phlip's Stinkoman 20X6 Cheat Program, then run nocheater.html. You can find it here. It's a lot easier than grabbing a list of links from somewhere, and saving them into the appropriate folders. --videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif, 19:53, 9 August 2005 (BST)
Look for Venusy's Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman, then download all those files. And another thing; don't use WTF. Use WTC. It makes you sound more like a true Homestar Runner fan.
I had this happen in the middle of the game while playing from homestarrunner.com . I was at the level 1 boss (the giant brain). I had 2 lives left. I died. When it started over, Stinkoman fell and kept falling. And the game was over. Must've been some kind of glitch I guess.--DrPepperMD 9/24/05.

Strange Storyline

Well, the storyline's kinda getting dull since Pan-pan was kidnapped. Almost all the levels 4-10 is/will be about rescuing pan-pan (and starting level 7, 1-up too. ) TBC, this is an awesome game, but the story... --Gooblies 14:06, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Stinkoman is emulating 8-bit platformers. "Rescue Pan-Pan" IS the story. Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 15:01, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Thank you Stinkoman! But our panda is in another castle! ;) --Pidgeot (t) (c) (e) 17:50, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Besides, as you may have noticed, even Stinkoman admits the plot is utterly predictable. Although, even though the PLOT might be predictable, chances are, if -0 or 3 are any indication, the level scenarios won't be. :) --Shadow Hog 23:03, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Another possible Negatory level reference?

I'm not adding this to the item page, but if someone can verify what I'm remembering and thinks it's useful, then add it to the "Real World References" for the Level -0 (Negatory) world. I seem to remember that in the original NES Metroid, with just an autofiring controller (ah, NES Advantage, we had good times, yes?), you could get wedged in a door, then collapse/expand rapidly and climb up through the wall. If you did this on one particular door, you would go up into a very strange and frankly hazardous area that was all messed up (sounding a lot like that lost Sonic level). It was easy to get stuck, and I don't think any of the doors worked properly. Anyone remember what I'm talking about? If so, it's perhaps another possible reference like that Sonic world, with the advantage that no Game Genie or anything was required to get to it. -- DLR, Aug 3 2005, 1:00pm

The reference to Hidden Palace is dubious at best. Hidden Palace is nothing like Negatory World. The Game Genie version is such that the entire thing looks like nothing but static (since the HPZ graphics were removed from the final cartridge) and the Sonic 2 Beta version is not glitched, just unfinished. Do you have any links for the Metroid reference? I'm not familiar with that. Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 17:32, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Here's one reference: Wikipedia: Metroid Talk. And a technical explainer on Metroid's map structure and why it's a glitch, not a true "hidden area". It's interesting stuff, but admittedly probably not a direct inspiration for the Negatory world. -- DLR, 216.41.87.210 23:48, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I do think it may be a reference to Hidden Palace, because there are screenshots of it. They do look similar to -0. In both versions, the level is incomplete, but in the beta ROM which I have, the graphics are not messed and it is easier to play. Level 8 more than probably has something to do with this Zone. --—Darklinkskywalker|Talk_|i did this stuff_ 14:53, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I've played HPZ, too, and don't see the resemblance. Neither version is particularly glitchy; one has missing graphics and one has perfect graphics but is unfinished. Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 17:52, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I still like to think that Level -0 is a reference to the 'Glitch City' bug in Pokémon Red/Blue versions. The randomly generated graphics are similar, as is the ability to defy the game's physics (example: Stinkoman can stand on the air at the beginning of the lever, and you could Surf through solid objects in the Glitch City bug). Also, there are many points in Glitch City where your character could become trapped in a place that seems solid, just like the opening cut-scene where Stinkoman was stuck in the wall. TBC have made Pokémon references before (Cheatachu, anyone?), and the glitchy nature of the first Pokémon games are widely known. Now, I wouldn't go so far as to compare Ekersby with Missingno., but the parallels between Level -0 and Glitch City are very similar. But, with all that in mind, Super Mario Bros.'s Minus World was still the first thing to come to mind. Glitch City occurred to me just as soon as I started playing the level. --DorianGray

BUT, in the Sonic 2 Beta ROM, act 2 of HPZ puts you stuck inside a wall. That MUST have something to do with it. --—Darklinkskywalker|Talk_|i did this stuff_ 18:01, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Stuck inside a wall comes from Minus World. You know, Minus World, Negatory Level... Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 19:19, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

But you're not stuck in it, you slide through it until you come out the other side. --—Darklinkskywalker|Talk_|i did this stuff_ 22:02, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

And Stinkoman doesn't slide through the wall to get out, he Stinkoblasts (is that a good name?) it. Wonder what that might be a reference to? --Strong Rad 02:07, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

This might need archival

Am I the only one who thinks the talk page on here is getting a LITTLE too big for its britches? I mean, cripes, look at the length of the TOC. That's pretty ridiculous; one entire page of scrolling down before you actually reach text. --Shadow Hog 01:36, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I vote for moving everything that hasn't been changed since the start of July or so to Talk:Stinkoman 20X6/Archive or somesuch... I can do it now if noone else wants to. --phlip TC 04:39, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
I concur. It really is too long. Go right ahead and archive it. --DorianGray

If this does get archived (and I'm not necessarily saying it should), you shouldn't move the threads based on date. You should move the ones that should have been posted on the forum. Anything related to actually maintaining the page (for example, closed STUFF), should stay. — It's dot com 04:56, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Okay, so after a second viewing under the tutelage of Pom Pom's keen eyes, I see that most of this page is idle chatter. I'm all for archiving it. But, like I said before, anything wiki-related should stay, no matter the date. — It's dot com 05:02, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

There we go... Everthing here has been edited recently or is (IMO) still relevant... I might have been a bit overzealous, feel free to move anything back if need be. (I got edit conflicted with your message, IDC, I'll take another look soon, I just want to get this edit in) --phlip TC 05:20, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I've made the archives cleaner. Please feel free to add templates and keep moving more pages. I am done for now and since it's 4:20 I need to go to bed! Please also read what I posted on the Messy Page section for those who are concerned about that. Good night! --Stux 08:23, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Levls to co me

I've noticed that there is aglitched up "more levels to come" sign at teh end of level -0. Plesae picture! --anony

I've noticed thatyou are "not logged in" so y dont u log in. Plesae log in! --—Darklinkskywalker|Talk_|i did this stuff_ 02:48, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Ha! Good one! Anyway, COME is spelled C OME on that screen, not CO ME. And the music that usually plays on the normal, non-glitched version stutters frequently, or so it seems, because I seek-bar'd my way to that screen, and it stuttered like that. It's all like, (mocking music) "bowbaow-bowbaow-bowbaowwwwwbowbowbow bowbaow-bowbaow-bowbaowwwwwbowbowbow", etc. --Strong Rad 01:49, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Level 9

What do you think level nine will be? My guess is an underwater bored.

It could also be underground cave. I hope level 10 is something like "The Doomsday Zone" from "Sonic 3 & Knuckles" --—Darklinkskywalker|Talk_|i did this stuff_ 02:51, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I've got a few good ones. One is "The castle" or "Spelunking" or "Candyland" or even "The desert," or "The swamp". Amy Whifflepoof

Or maybe it'll be a "flying through the jungle level". Turbolence sounds like the kinda name for a level like that. —Darklinkskywalker|Talk_|i did this stuff_ 10:03, 29 Aug 2005 (CST)

The Flow

I've noticed that owhen you start level 1.2 (maybe the others work as well) on the TRY LEVEL! screen, it says something about YOU GOTTA GO WITH THE FLOW or something like that. I can't read it cause it flashes too fast. Can anyone get a snapshot of it? — —Darklinkskywalker|Talk_|i did this stuff_ 15:41, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Two Questions

I just got a seek bar, and I was looking around in the Flash file. Here are some questions:

  1. Is the music meant to skip like that at the "MORE LEVELS TO COME" (in this case, "MORE LEVLS TO C OME") screen, or is it because I was messing around?
  2. Where in the Flash file is Undefined.Undefined? Found it.

--Strong Rad 01:50, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

It's meant to sound like that - since it comes just after the glitch level. --phlip TC 01:52, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Oh. --Strong Rad 02:02, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Astromund trash can lid?

I don't really know, this is a real stretch. I remember when I was a kid I used to play this MS-DOS game callled: "Math Rescue". It was about numbers being stolen by these aleins called gruzzles, but you could take hits without dying if you had trash can lids, used as shields. Does that have relation to the Stinkomanuel? Amy Whifflepoof

Undefined.Undefined?

Where the heck is that level? I can't find it!

Do you have a seek bar? If you don't, you'll need to get one to be able to view that level. Why do you need to? It's just a grey hole. Oh and by the way... Where the heck do I get a seek bar? I can't find one! I've tried downloading it before but it just says "No scripatable flash on this page." --—Darklinkskywalker|Talk_|i did this stuff_ 02:43, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Bookmark the button, or for you <shaking-green-text>Internet Explorer</shaking-green-text> users, add it to your favorites. Then go around to the end of the flash file, and you'll find Undefined.Undefined. And it's not a grey hole, it's a black hole. --Strong Rad 20:50, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I added it to my favorites (bookmarks on firefox, but that's on my other 'puter still won't work) but nothing happens! How do I get it to work? --—Darklinkskywalker|Talk_|i did this stuff_ 02:46, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)

You have IE? Cuz then you have to add the Seek Bar for IE to your favorites. And you can't use it on the swf.

I have IE 5, Netscape 7, and Firefox 1.0.6 but on fire fox, I add it to my personal toolbar, and when I'm on the page, I click it, and it replies, once again, with "No scriptable flash on this page". And it says IE for WINDOWS, not Mac, so I can't get it to work. I try and try but nothing happens.--—Darklinkskywalker|Talk_|i did this stuff_ 00:06, 1 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I just moved the seek bar to the same position as the s in characters and all the music started playing, what looked like part of the object library was on the screen, and even part of the flash for ekersby sprites morphing. I dunno what the seek bar has against the game and the games menu, but it's so weird. Seek Bar

I have a seek bar, but how do I use it? I click it on my personal toolbar bookmarks when I go to the stinkogame.html on homestarrunner.com, but I can't get it to work. Why is that? --—Darklinkskywalker|Talk_|i did this stuff_ 23:39, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Am I supposed to drag the seek bar from bookmarks to the web page? hurry up and answer plz, I'm impatient. I have it on Netscape, Mozilla, and IE.--—Darklinkskywalker|Talk_|i did this stuff_ 00:09, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Hmm... why don't you test it out to see if that's what you're supposed to do... In other words, yes, you drag it. —Gafaddict Image:Gafaddict sigpic.gif (Talk | Contribs.) 01:19, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Still didn't work. Are they Mac compatible? —Darklinkskywalker|Talk_|i did this stuff_ 15:02, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

New from Brother Chaps. Inc.!!

NEW STINKOMAN LEVEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Put it up on the main page so every one knows, please. --Anony

THAT'S KINDA OBVIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We always put that kinda stuff on the whatsnew templateDarklinkskywalker|Talk_|i did this stuff_ 15:00, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Shots

The firey shots now go strait, no longer going down while going forward.

Not entirely true; they do drop a little, but they also go full-screen instead of just a short distance like they used to. --Jay (Talk) 01:53, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

How many hits?

How many freakin' hits does it take to kill Harvax?

13 or 14. --videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif, 23:08, 5 September 2005 (BST)

Thank you. Bassium!

Version 7.0 - 7.1

Did anybody notice when the notice in the bottom right corner changed from 7.0 to 7.1? -- Super Sam 09:27, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I did. Maybe it was a smalll update, like a bug fix or a stinkomanual update. —Darklinkskywalker|Talk_|i did this stuff_ 15:02, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I believe 7.1 was a bug fixing version. From memory, it corrected level -0.4 from showing up after defeating Ekersby. --videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif, 22:09, 7 September 2005 (BST)

I can't find the 9.3 boss!

Whenever i reach the flag, nothing happens and I just keep flying through an infinite level! Anybody have any idea whats going on/what to do?

I've had this problem, but only on the cheat version. I have absolutely NO idea of what's going on. I had a theory but forgot it. —Darklinkskywalker|Talk_|i did this stuff_ 22:26, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

...The new punching?!

Who else here doesn't like the new punching?? - C.Olimar788

Messy Page

The whole fun fact section of this page is a mess. I'm thinking we need to delete some facts, maybe move some pages, stuff like that. Like individual boss fun facts chould go in their own section in the enemies page. And I think a page should be set up of a list of all the "Try Level" "Game Over" and "More Levels To Come" scenes. - Joshua

It is a bit messy. I'll try sweeping the floor.
...
But seriously, yea. Too much info. We need to have a garage sale or something. I'll maybe try to do a bit of work on the page. Probably a few more Fun Facts subsections are needed, as well as maybe an 'updates section', for the little things they change every time they update. Thunderbird 04:07, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)
The fun facts should be split into levels wherever possible, and a bunch of other changes. I was kinda waiting for the game to be finished before proposing any radical alterations. — It's dot com 04:12, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Would it be okay to remove all of the "when the game was first made, it was like this. it was later changed" type messages? Shouldn't the guide just talk about how the game is now?--DrPepperMD
We have precedent for keeping records of when things change, but that's mostly because the toons and such don't change often - this game changes regularly... Perhaps split them off to yet another page? I'm willing to do that now if there's no objections. --phlip TC 03:56, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
I had another look - I don't think there are enough "in a previous version..." facts to warrant its own page, but I still don't think they should be removed. Perhaps group them all together under a "changes" heading or something... --phlip TC 11:10, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Hi! I have two points I'd like to talk about (sorry, I'm not really mentioning anything new).
  • This TALK page is indeed still messy. I think we should archive again everything except the Closed (STUFF), XML and couple of most recent (like level 9) conversations. Oh! and this section of course. I'd do it, but um, I hate to ask... how do you archive things again?
  • The Main page has its archives broken in pieces of 20, and has its own template and everything, I think this talk page merits that kind of organization.
  • Um yeah the page is kinda bloated. I was thinking making actual level pages for most stuff (we already have the walkthroughs, which the level pages can point to) like It's dot com. I think it's doable at least for the early stages, and since the game is presumably nearly complete. That or Real World references should have its own page. So what should it be, individual level pages or Real World references? :D
  • Organizing the page now, will save us the headache of updating it later, when it's even more bloated. Adding to a new infrastructure isn't necessarily that much harder.
Thank you guys for your time!
--Stux 07:50, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
I have organized the talk archives. --Stux 08:24, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

 ??!!Stinkomanuel!!??

It-It's at level 5 again!!! What the crap just happened?!? - C.Olimar788

REALLY SLOW

This game runs REEEAAALLY slow on my computer! Does anyone else have that problem? Even at school on P4 computers it seems slow. What kind of computers do you need to play this? Agentjs03 19:43, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Fanstuff bad?

What's wrong with the fanstuff links? Some HSR themed username says it's "wiki policy," but I don't see anything against fanstuff in the wiki standards. (trogga)

I agree with you. It's "External Links", not "H*R Links." But I can see why some wouldn't like it. - Joshua
I'm not sure exactly where I read it, but you can take it to the administrators if you want. small_logo.pngUsername-talk 18:49, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure you read it in an old discussion of the page - where an admin said that no fanstuff related pages and fun facts should be made. (i.e. a guide to custom levels; a factoid on how you can do something with a cheat version) - Joshua
If I remember correctly it was a sysop edit summary just a few days ago, but if you really want to add it again, I'll stop reverting. small_logo.pngUsername-talk 19:00, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Here's examples I found. These may be what you are talking about: here and here. - Joshua 19:02, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

We don't link to fanstuff because (1) as a knowledge base, we should only list official sources as external links, (2) we don't have any real info on fanstuff nor do we have any control of its content, and (3) if we allowed person A's fanstuff on this page, then we'd have to allow the fanstuff of persons B, C, D, E, and everyone else on all the other pages, and that is not the point of this wiki, nor should keeping up with and policing things like that be one of our chores. — It's dot com 06:46, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

You're Insane, man! I liked those links! Besides, Trogga and Joshua are right! Those links were useful, Fanstuff or not! -FaceCrap

The cheat version may be bad, but the custom levels are public fanstuff from multiple users, and I think they should stay. - Joshua

Any glitches that can only be accessed with the cheat version or in custom levels should be treated like out-of-the-frame glitches in the toons - they were not intended to be seen by the public, so there's no reason to allow for them. That is, if there's something that happens because something is not specifically catered for (eg 1-Up kicking a Stafulter) it should not be mentioned here (though it could be mentioned on the fanstuff entry's page). If there is something intentional that can only be accessed this way (like the cabbage enemy was) then it should be mentioned, as a remark or as appropriate on another Stinkoman 20X6 page. Linking to the custom levels here would in my mind be the same as linking to Other Character Email or suchlike from the Strong Bad Email page, and would easily set a precedent for every fanstuff (or even just each category of fanstuff would be bad enough) being linked to from the H*R thing it was inspired by. --phlip TC 17:09, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

But what's the point of (fanstuff) interwiki links if we're not going to use them? (trogga)

Yeah, if we're not supposed to link to fanstuff, then, Oh! Why don't we blow the fanstuff link off the face of that side template thingy if we're "not supposed to link to fanstuff"! See? it's ridiculous!! Take that, It's dot com! -FaceCrap

There's a difference between "linking to the fanstuff site from this site" to "linking to a fanstuff page from an article on this site" - the articles are supposed to make a knowledge base containing facts about H*R. However the site as a whole contains the knowledge base, the forum, the fanstuff, the chat channel, etc... so links between them outside the articles themselves are still good. --phlip TC
Take it easy, FaceCrap. It's not an extremely good idea to talk like that. — Lapper (talk)
Yeah, I guess not. -FaceCrap

So,anyway, if no one's said anything against the Fanstuff links for days, why hasn't somebody put them back? I would, but if it were a good idea to, somebody probably would've already. -FaceCrap

I am against putting the fanstuff links there. People should just visit fanstuff themselves. Rogue Leader / (my talk) 14:05, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Well, you can just go to the external links part of the side template, true, but it might be easier to have direct links on the bottom of the page. -FaceCrap
So what, we have to be actively posting here all the time saying "I still don't want the fanstuff links there" after the discussion seems settled? OK, to make it explicit: I think they should not be there, and I will continue to think they should not be there until such a time as I specifically post saying otherwise. Until then, take it as read that I am posting here regularly saying they should not be there. --phlip TC 16:02, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

9.1 intro

Can anyone remember what game this is parodying? Where it shows the castle and then pans across to the character standing on a rock.

I remember this from a NES game I used to own but cant remember what :(

Some Megaman games have it... - Joshua 11:40, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)
There's also the some what popular Sega game Rocket Night Adventures, and it looks alomost just like that, except he looks at the kingdom then a giant pig head appears and laughs. Bassium!

Level 8

I know people have commented on the whole level 7,-0,9 thing. I think I has the solution. After Level 10, TBC are likely to go back and do a level 8 as somewhat of a lost level. I'm dissapointed there was no swimming level, so this might be where it comes in ( Level 10 defenitely won't be such a level. I'll bet anyone my entire life savings [being $8.42] that 10 will be a Bowser's Keep type deal)---User:RatherAnnoying

Level -0 is level 8, just not called that. --Jay (Talk) 20:06, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Cutscene Before 9.3

So, doesn't anyone think that noting that there is no cutscene before 9.3 is too obvious? There's no cutscene before An Ice Machine either, and nobody cared about that! Who put that fact up, anyway? -FaceCrap 00:34, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

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