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== Are these all really needed? ==
I'm noticing a pattern with these Telltale-related articles such as Monkey Island, Graham Annable, and Wallace and Gromit. There is, at most, one reference on the actual site, and then the rest being made up of references in Poker Night, Behind the Bad, PAX, etc.. Being a fan of all these series, I certainly like the idea of them having articles here, but it seems like all the references aren't so much references from the Chaps, but rather nods from Telltale to their other games. I mean, do we really need a new article for each time Telltale references another game of theirs? Could these perhaps be merged into one article? {{User:The Wheelchair/sig}} 16:58, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
I'm noticing a pattern with these Telltale-related articles such as Monkey Island, Graham Annable, and Wallace and Gromit. There is, at most, one reference on the actual site, and then the rest being made up of references in Poker Night, Behind the Bad, PAX, etc.. Being a fan of all these series, I certainly like the idea of them having articles here, but it seems like all the references aren't so much references from the Chaps, but rather nods from Telltale to their other games. I mean, do we really need a new article for each time Telltale references another game of theirs? Could these perhaps be merged into one article? {{User:The Wheelchair/sig}} 16:58, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:Especially the "appears in the game" references that don't really involve Strong Bad. We're not considering Poker Night at the Inventory part of the [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|body of work]], are we? We don't even have articles for any of the non-H*R main characters.  I think when there's only one in-universe reference, all the other stuff can be mentioned where that one reference would be mentioned normally; in this case, [[pet show]] and/or [[Floppy Disk Container]].--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 17:20, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:Especially the "appears in the game" references that don't really involve Strong Bad. We're not considering Poker Night at the Inventory part of the [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|body of work]], are we? We don't even have articles for any of the non-H*R main characters.  I think when there's only one in-universe reference, all the other stuff can be mentioned where that one reference would be mentioned normally; in this case, [[pet show]] and/or [[Floppy Disk Container]].--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 17:20, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
::I don't see why Poker Night at the Inventory shouldn't be considered part of the body of work.  Strong Bad's dialog was co-written by the Brothers Chaps and he was voiced by Matt Chapman, so therefore the interaction with Strong Bad by the other characters would bring them into the Homestar Runner universe by association since Strong Bad's interaction with these characters are officially approved.  Also, because all H*R related games and toons by Telltale Games are officially approved by the Brothers Chaps (even the Make a Scene at PAX toons), I definitely think that any reference made in those games and toons should be as valid as any other official H*R game or toon. [[User:Jennifer|Jennifer]] 21:43, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
::I don't see why Poker Night at the Inventory shouldn't be considered part of the body of work.  Strong Bad's dialog was co-written by the Brothers Chaps and he was voiced by Matt Chapman, so therefore the interaction with Strong Bad by the other characters would bring them into the Homestar Runner universe by association since Strong Bad's interaction with these characters are officially approved.  Also, because all H*R related games and toons by Telltale Games are officially approved by the Brothers Chaps (even the Make a Scene at PAX toons), I definitely think that any reference made in those games and toons should be as valid as any other official H*R game or toon. [[User:Jennifer|Jennifer]] 21:43, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
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:::I think I get the gist of this discussion, but I'm afraid I don't follow completely (maybe I'm just tired). From what I've read here, I think character relationships should be merged into one article. After all, they've only appeared once. In terms of Strong Bad talking referencing other games in Poker Night, ummm... I can't decide that at the moment. Lastly, I'd like to point out a [[{{#ifexist:HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 40|HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 40#Crossover policies?|Talk:Main Page#Crossover policies?}}|discussion we had on the main page]] about crossovers. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 22:57, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
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::::IMHO, we could do with a page for [[Other Franchises Represented by Telltale]] (or [[Other Telltale Games]] or somesuch). But, frankly, the only franchise represented by Telltale (besides H*R, of course) that has enough to get its own page is [[Sam & Max]], IMHO. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:08, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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:::::I think things have clicked in for me after {{p|l={{fullurl:Back to the Future|oldid=717728&diff=prev}} this edit}}, and I'm with The Wheelchair. I firmly believe that the only things from crossovers we should acknowledge are interactions or references made by Homestar Runner characters (as [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] suggested on the Main Page discussion I linked to above). Think of it this way: TBC didn't create these works, Telltale did. Mike and Matt didn't have the licenses for those characters, Telltale did. The Brothers Chaps alone did not decide what and what not to put in them, it was a collaborative process by the license holders. I may not have my finger on it, but we're doing something wrong here. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 22:49, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
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::::::I agree. Direct references by H*R characters should count wherever we happen to find them, but indirect references involving non-H*R characters in Telltale games should not be listed on our pages. I removed a couple from the [[Back to the Future]] page, and we should root out and remove the rest as well. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:45, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
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:::::::I disagree.  Telltale is an official licensee of H*R characters, and every product they have with H*R characters have to be approved by the Brothers Chaps, so since everything is Chaps approved, it should be all free to reference in my opinion.  In addition, Marty in that instance you mentioned was the suspect in the murder of a H*R character (as was everyone in The Inventory in that toon), so I'd count that as interaction even though he didn't have any lines with any H*R characters. [[User:Jennifer|Jennifer]] 14:52, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

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[edit] Are these all really needed?

I'm noticing a pattern with these Telltale-related articles such as Monkey Island, Graham Annable, and Wallace and Gromit. There is, at most, one reference on the actual site, and then the rest being made up of references in Poker Night, Behind the Bad, PAX, etc.. Being a fan of all these series, I certainly like the idea of them having articles here, but it seems like all the references aren't so much references from the Chaps, but rather nods from Telltale to their other games. I mean, do we really need a new article for each time Telltale references another game of theirs? Could these perhaps be merged into one article? The Wheelchair 16:58, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Especially the "appears in the game" references that don't really involve Strong Bad. We're not considering Poker Night at the Inventory part of the body of work, are we? We don't even have articles for any of the non-H*R main characters. I think when there's only one in-universe reference, all the other stuff can be mentioned where that one reference would be mentioned normally; in this case, pet show and/or Floppy Disk Container.--.Johnny Jupiter! talk cont 17:20, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
I don't see why Poker Night at the Inventory shouldn't be considered part of the body of work. Strong Bad's dialog was co-written by the Brothers Chaps and he was voiced by Matt Chapman, so therefore the interaction with Strong Bad by the other characters would bring them into the Homestar Runner universe by association since Strong Bad's interaction with these characters are officially approved. Also, because all H*R related games and toons by Telltale Games are officially approved by the Brothers Chaps (even the Make a Scene at PAX toons), I definitely think that any reference made in those games and toons should be as valid as any other official H*R game or toon. Jennifer 21:43, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
I think I get the gist of this discussion, but I'm afraid I don't follow completely (maybe I'm just tired). From what I've read here, I think character relationships should be merged into one article. After all, they've only appeared once. In terms of Strong Bad talking referencing other games in Poker Night, ummm... I can't decide that at the moment. Lastly, I'd like to point out a discussion we had on the main page about crossovers. Soiled Bargains (talk|ctrb) 22:57, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
IMHO, we could do with a page for Other Franchises Represented by Telltale (or Other Telltale Games or somesuch). But, frankly, the only franchise represented by Telltale (besides H*R, of course) that has enough to get its own page is Sam & Max, IMHO. --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 05:08, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
I think things have clicked in for me after this edit, and I'm with The Wheelchair. I firmly believe that the only things from crossovers we should acknowledge are interactions or references made by Homestar Runner characters (as Guybrush20X6 suggested on the Main Page discussion I linked to above). Think of it this way: TBC didn't create these works, Telltale did. Mike and Matt didn't have the licenses for those characters, Telltale did. The Brothers Chaps alone did not decide what and what not to put in them, it was a collaborative process by the license holders. I may not have my finger on it, but we're doing something wrong here. Soiled Bargains (talk|ctrb) 22:49, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
I agree. Direct references by H*R characters should count wherever we happen to find them, but indirect references involving non-H*R characters in Telltale games should not be listed on our pages. I removed a couple from the Back to the Future page, and we should root out and remove the rest as well. — It's dot com 23:45, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
I disagree. Telltale is an official licensee of H*R characters, and every product they have with H*R characters have to be approved by the Brothers Chaps, so since everything is Chaps approved, it should be all free to reference in my opinion. In addition, Marty in that instance you mentioned was the suspect in the murder of a H*R character (as was everyone in The Inventory in that toon), so I'd count that as interaction even though he didn't have any lines with any H*R characters. Jennifer 14:52, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
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