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Suggestion

In the "Preferences" page, the user is prompted to offer their "Nickname". I know of at least one example where a user has thought this meant "put whatever you like here". But of course we expect that what's put in "Nickname" will be the same as or very close to the user's username. Any chance we can reword that so new users will know how to create policy-compliant signatures? Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 06:17, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't know, I've never minded users going by a name other than their username as long as they're consistent about it and the "nickname" isn't taken. However, that doesn't mean I necessarily encourage doing that, because it can get confusing at times — especially for us RecentChanges junkies. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 07:20, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Well, we have asked people to change their nicks before, because they were either offensive or something like MattChapman. I think it's a good idea to give a few hints as to what's acceptable and encouraged. Loafing 07:36, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
I remember back when I joined, I thought that "Nickname" was simply for "What shall we address you by other than your user name?". Perhaps the code can be altered to say "Signature" or something of the like. — Lapper (talk) 15:21, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
At 'Kipedia it does already say "Signature" rather than nickname, and this seems to be a lot more logical to me. Heimstern Läufer 23:41, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
I would also prefer it to say "Signature". When I was young it caused me to experience confusion when typing four tildes created "Salty" rather than "Lappy 486" (my old username). I thought it just added it to some type of profile users have like on a forum. SaltyTalk! 00:47, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Template help!

I am trying to make two templates for my site [psupedia.org] (looks like a combination of the H*R Wiki and the English Wiki) but I can't get them to stand side-by-side. Whenever I try to do them, they merge together in a big ugly mess. Can someone please help me out that ? : )

{|style="border-spacing:2px;margin:2px 2px"
|style="width:0%;border:2px solid #ACE1AF;background-color:#f5fffa;vertical-align:top;color:#000"|
{|width="80%" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#f5fffa"
! [[Image:News headliner.PNG]]
|-
! <h2 style="margin:0;background:#50C878;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;border:1px solid #ACE1AF;
text-align:left;color:#fff;padding:0.1em 0.2em;">PSU
|-
|style="color:#000"|'''Remember: ''[[News|All registered users can edit the news]]!'''''
<br>[[Image:US_Bullet.PNG]]<br>[[Image:US_UK_Bullet.PNG]]
|-
! <h3 style="margin:0;background:#50C878;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;border:1px solid #ACE1AF;
text-align:left;color:#fff;padding:0.1em 0.2em;">PSUPedia
|-
|style="color:#000"|The PSUP
|-


{|style="border-spacing:2px;margin:2px 2px"
|style="width:0%;border:2px solid #ADD8E6;background-color:#f5faff;vertical-align:top;color:#000"|
{|width="80%" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#f5faff"
! [[Image:Featured Articles headliner.PNG]]
|-
! <h2 style="margin:0;background:#4169E1;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;border:1px solid #ADD8E6;
text-align:left;color:#fff;padding:0.1em 0.2em;">PSU
|-
|style="color:#000"|

If you would like to, you can post it in my talk page or this IP's one if you are willing to help, it might be easier on my site because the images I have in the code are enabled and I don't think this site would like having that. I expect you guys are very good with coding and you could finish it up soon, because my neck is probably on the line with the site admin there! hehe. 68.194.9.27 17:03, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Upon first glance, it appears you've forgotten to close all four of your "tables", and that they are all nested within each other, creating a big mess. I'd recommend checking out Help:Table for information on how to use tables properly. — Lapper (talk) 17:29, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks Lapper, wish I asked sooner. :P Also sorry if I ruined the page a little, my other edit make the width larger than it should be. 68.194.9.27 17:34, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
It's fine, I've broken it down so that it doesn't overflow. And you're very welcome. Good luck. — Lapper (talk) 17:36, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Ugh, I tried it again using the help guide and your advice but it's still merging. I closed the tables and I tried variations to replace the '!'s with '|'s and '|+'. I tried a lot of variations and it still isn't changing. :( 68.194.9.27 18:29, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Drop me a line around 21:00 utc. We'll work it out together. — Lapper (talk) 14:34, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Halloween skin cont'd

Note: continued from HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 15#Halloween skin

Well, given that coloring is not a pre-Halloween toon, changing the skin is a little less urgent. We don't have to put the skin up for a couple more days, unless you guys + Dot com are ready to go. And from what's written on the wiki, some things are not entirely agreed upon yet. —BazookaJoe 06:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm agreed on whatever you want to do. =3 --DorianGray
Punkin stencil rotation in the upper right corner? Official site link logo change to uncarved pumpakin? We will use Image:Wikiween.png (sorry you didn't see that, FireBird). The orange and gray main page tables look awesome. Do we have our spooky forest silhouette? Is Dot com ready to go when we are ready (I think I know the answer)? Is All On? Hafta go bafroom? =3? —BazookaJoe 06:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Well, they just released a Malloween Podstar, so I guess they're all up in the Halloween season. Why aren't we? D= --DorianGray

Canada $$

Could someone please send TBC an email about quotes in CAD not USD. I would but my email is down rright now so thanks

Why the urgency? Oh, for the Canadian Decemberween sale? You can use Google or another website to convert USD to CAD. —BazookaJoe 23:20, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

subtitles

The subtitles project has become very big, and I think that it deserves it's own link on the main page, as it's actually pretty hard to find otherwise. - link_icon.gifThe Joe(Talk) 00:24, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

It's currently linked from HRWiki:The Stick, and there are links to the subtitles scripts on every toon article (on the left hand side, under the "external links" box). But most people will probably not have noticed this. I don't know how it would fit on the main page, though. Loafing 00:30, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
I was thinking under Miscellany...- link_icon.gifThe Joe(Talk) 00:37, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
The main page is generally for Homestar-only content. The Stick is for Wiki and community created content. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 13:33, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
I'd really like to have some kind of "Did you know?" message available to the public informing them of the use of subtitles, once the project is mostly complete & well checked. Otherwise, not many people are going to notice or benefit from your hard work. This is definitely worth main page inclusion, but it should be noted in a novel yet appropriate way. —BazookaJoe 13:53, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
I just read this and I think that's a Great idea BazookaJoe. A "did you know?" could help inform people about wiki-related things that might otherwise go un-noticed for quite sometime... things some people might never know of who don't use the wiki often.--Image:Stinkwing.gif »Bleed0range« 03:06, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Matt's Birthday coming up

What are we planning on doing for Matt's birthday (11/1). It's a week or so away and I think it would be neat if we did something so that we all can be involved. I R F 09:49, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

That would be cool — I can't think of anything; any ideas? Trey56 10:24, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
I was thinking about making up a huge card and have everyone submit a message by jpg or png to a central person such as JoeyDay, Tom, or It's dot com. Then have that person compile all the meassages and take it to a Kinkos and have them print it on a large poster board and then mail it to them. I would be glad to contribute via paypal to the cost of printing and mailing this card and I think others would too. I R F 12:18, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
The forum guys did that last year... they just emailed it to him, I think. --phlip TC 12:23, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
I never got to sign that card. It sounded like a good idea, though. — Lapper (talk) 12:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Email is okay, but I think it would neat to snail mail a card this year. I R F 12:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Well, we'd better hurry, then, whatever it is. :( —BazookaJoe 13:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Idea
I was thinking about something like this →
I think whoever lives the closest to GA should be the one to mail to allow for the shortest postal delivery time (although I can do it if no one else...I live in VA) I R F 13:40, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

That sounds good if you are willing to get it fancy printed and a-spensive mailed. Or someone else can still volunteer. I think, as a suggestion, people should include their location, parts of real name, nickname, and an optional note, like this:

(Note)
Cort "BazookaJoe" S.
Michigan

BazookaJoe 14:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

This does sound like something that would be better suited to be discussed on Forum though... --phlip TC 15:31, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
I agree with Phlip. This really isn't something that has to do with collecting and organizing information about Homestar Runner, it's more of a community activity type thing. Someone want to start a thread there and post the link here? -- Tom 15:39, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Except that this would be something that would come from the wiki community, not the forum community. If it was on the forum regular wiki users such as myself would not see it. I R F 15:40, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Phlip, Tom, I don't agree with you. The forum and wiki communities are different. I'm not part of the forum as well as some forumers not part of the wiki. I would love to sign a message from the wiki people, as I missed the one from last year. I R F: You have my full support. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 16:12, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm agreeing with E.L. Cool, here; I don't have an account on the forum, and besides, this is an HRWiki proposal, not an HRWikiForum one. — Lapper (talk) 17:16, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Agree. This is a wiki birthday card. The forumers did their own card last year. —BazookaJoe 20:19, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

In order to reduce recent changes flooding, it would probably be a good idea for all those who wish to send Matt a happy birthday to e-mail the designated card-maker. The card maker will update the image with well-wishes and signatures once he or she receives a good amount of e-mails. In order not to leave some semi-active wiki users in the dust, I suggest we post a advisory on Template:recentchangesnotice. —BazookaJoe 20:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I'd be willing to volunteer to make the graphic, but if we do choose to go snail-mail I'm not certainly sending it from here... it's probably too late to send it by snail mail anyway if we want it to arrive in time... --phlip TC 20:50, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
I'd be willing to print it out and mail it. If we print it out and have it priority mailed by Saturday (10/28) morning, that should be enough time, right? Also, I do live in Illinois, so it may be better if someone closer does it... Trey56 20:57, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
If it gets dropped into First Class mail a couple of states away on early Monday morning, it could possibly make it to Decatur by Nov 1 if we are lucky. Otherwise it would be Nov 2. Or, somebody from any state could shed a few extra dollars, send it through Priority Mail, and have it make it by Nov 1 for sure. —BazookaJoe 20:57, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
With Priority Mail, I think we should send it out on Saturday at the latest. With Express Mail, we could get away with Monday (although that's very expensive). Trey56 21:00, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Edit conflicted: Oh wait, they would have to Priority it on Saturday in order to be 100% sure that it will make it by Wednesday. I think it's pretty likely to make it by Wednesday if someone in a nearby state sends it Priority early Monday morning. —BazookaJoe 21:02, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
That's true (for some reason I was thinking that Nov. 1 was on Tuesday). And mailing it on Monday will give more time for us to gather enough signatures to fill up the page. Well, Virginia's pretty close to Georgia — what do you think Invisible Robot Fish? Trey56 21:19, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Sure, if no one else is closer I can send it on monday. I will go to the store tomorrow and check out shipping and display options. I have both a paypal account and a UPS account so I could send it out from work on Monday easy. The more I was thinking about this, the more low-tech I am thinking. I was think about buying some poster board, perhaps making it look like the one from caffeine and print out all of your sigs and glue them on the board. I R F 22:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

We should start spreading the word and collecting signatures soon. There are only so many days left. I suggest we use BazookaJoe's template for the signatures. IRF, as the card maker, you would be the best person to collect the sigs. Would you prefer to get them by email or on your talk page? Are you planning to print them out in colour or black and white? Should we have a rough guideline about the size of the signatures? (oh, still so many questions) Loafing 22:21, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Color is fine. If you just want to sign via text, use my talk page. If you have a graphic or image for your sig, post your link on my talk page but please adhear to the image use policiy. Size doesn't matter because I will size them to all fit. I R F 23:09, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
I'd Like to sign it--Marvelrulez

This is a little embarassing to admit so late, but I don't know Matt's mailing address ** blushes **. I think JoeyDay knows it (since he got a letter from them), but I don't see him on that often. Is this info available anywhere? I R F 15:18, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm sending you an email. — It's dot com 15:27, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Please re-send it. I just updated my email address in preferences because I can't check my personal email account at work. I R F 15:58, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Re-sent'd. — It's dot com 16:03, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Little thing that's bugging me:

Can someone remove the " (English)" from the OpenSearch description of the search engine? I understand why it would be useful at a multi-lingual Wiki like Wikipedia, but it seems a bit unnecessary for this site... --videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif 22:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Whoa skin

This skin is awexome and all, who made it? But it's hurting my eyes SO MUCH! Could we also possibly have a Decemberween skin too? --Homfrog 10:45, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Pretty cool, huh? The discussion and people involved can be found here and here. Trey56 10:59, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
How about a D'ween logo a little like this:Image:Dween wiki.PNG Marvelrulez (Talk | contribs) 14:49, 27 October 2006 (UTC) (left unsigned)
That's a nifty idea, but let's just enjoy H'ween today. We can worry about D'ween when we get closer to it. — It's dot com 14:21, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Not to off-topic, but I love Strong Bad as the Chiquita Banana lady... icon_wink.gif --Trogga 17:10, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
For the last time, he's Carmen freakin' Miranda! Heimstern Läufer 17:14, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't we take it down now?--The4swordImage:The4swordssigpicisbetterthanyours.PNG 23:01, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
I think the agreed time to deactivate it was the 3rd. --DorianGray
Oh. I'm dumb.--The4swordImage:The4swordssigpicisbetterthanyours.PNG 20:07, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

We should totally make the Halloween thing a skin in the preferences. --Homfrog 00:31, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Or feel free to steal it from my Monobook. --DorianGray

Update 10/27

There is a new DVD out. It's called "Everything Else: Volume 2". Retromaniac 20:52, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Inside References?

This may sound like a stupid question, but what are inside references? Is it a list of fourth wall breaks?

Cheddar Cheesia 21:20, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

An Inside Reference is when a toon makes a clear reference to a previous Homestar Runner cartoon. See HRWiki:Standards#Inside References. -- Tom 22:18, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
In contrast, a fourth wall break can be summarized to mean when a character acknowledges that they are not real but just a character. They are not merely interacting with each other; they know that they are being watched by us. I R F 19:35, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up!

Cheddar Cheesia 19:19, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

HRWiki

I have not been here in a while, what happened to the old main page? The one from about one and a half years ago. 65.6.55.61 03:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, the Main Page has been redesigned twice in the past year and a half. You can sort through the history to find the changes, I suppose. — Lapper (talk) 04:02, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi, nice to have you back! We have quite a life story at HRWiki:A History. I think the main page redesign(s) are in there somewhere... —BazookaJoe 04:07, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
By the way, this is about what the main page looked like a year and a half ago, before the redesign to approximately what we have now. The Homestar and Strong Bad backgrounds are different than they were. They used to look like this. —BazookaJoe 04:16, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Stupid Coincidence Magazine

I for one think that TBC looks on goof and glitch section after each toon is released. I have been noticing each week that not long after we post a mis-spelling, it is promptly corrected. I wonder if it would be possible to check the IP addresses that access the site from the time of the of goof, to the time of the correction on the homestarrunner site and find an IP address that comes from Atlanta, GA. That might help confirm that the TBC use or humble site weekly rather than just once in awhile like they mentioned in various interviews and commentary. I R F 16:26, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

According to our Privacy policy we aren't allowed to extract an IP, unless it's for one of the reasons stated in the policy. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 16:32, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Such a search would not be practical and would probably yield ambiguous results. You've gotta take into account the sheer amount of traffic our site has. Between the time that those goofs were first reported and when they were confirmed fixed, there were 219,134 server hits. Of those, about 7,380 more or less directly related to the 4 branches page, and comprised 2,338 unique IPs—more than I'd want to search through, especially because there would surely be false positives from Atlanta-area fans. That's not to say I don't think TBC regularly use us as a resource. I'm pretty sure they do. — It's dot com 17:51, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Their comments about the Visor Robot on the last DVD should say as much. ;) --Jay v.2024 (Auld lang syne) 17:55, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Too bad, 'cause if we could have determined their IP address, we'd have been one step closer to harnessing the unbridled energy of their brain waves — Muahahaha. Trey56 17:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Also, here's specific confirmation that they have (at least in the past) found out goofs from the wiki: animal#Goofs. Trey56 18:01, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
You don't have to search IP addresses to confirm they use this site. We found evidence that one of the ways they add images to toons is most likely a Google image search, the same thing I'd use. Use your common sense. If YOU were making Homestar toons, wouldn't you go to the online encyclopedia that will have all mistakes pointed out to you after the fact with-in a few hours? Of course you would. Then you'd go fix 'em up and everything is fine. We save them the time of proofreading their toons over too much. We help them catch minor flaws in the toons. Probably, they use it more than before... which is why a lot of older toons mistakes stay uh... mistook.--Image:Stinkwing.gif »Bleed0range« 18:28, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
I'd just love to know when and how they found us. --DorianGray
It's quite possibly they have a site tracker that can tell them where the majority of traffic to their site comes from. And a lot probably comes from here.--Image:Stinkwing.gif »Bleed0range« 18:34, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
But that wasn't the point of what IRF and Dorian said. Yes, TBC probably use our site every week, and yes they probably found us by looking at incoming links, but that's not the same as verifying it using an IP address, or knowing the exact details of when they first discovered us. Remember the "holy crap, look at this!" feeling you got when you first found HRWiki? I for one want to know the whens, wheres, hows, and whys of when TBC first saw us. — It's dot com 19:03, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
The 2000+ list would go down if you cross-referenced them against other toons and when the errors were corrected, but after thinking about it, I agree that there would be too many false positives. I R F 15:20, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

noclip's logo.

I like it. Can we add it to the logo page? – Pertmywert (Talk·Edits) 23:34, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I suppose so. Welcome back by the way. — Lapper (talk) 20:06, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm not back but, hey! Someone noticed! :D – Pertmywert (Talk·Edits) 03:32, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Update

There's an update for a Videlectrix T-Shirt. --205.206.196.178 01:42, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. Funny thing, you posted this the same minute that I updated the Main Page. —BazookaJoe 01:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I need some help

I'll be leaving on a holiday soon, and i need to have a message on the top of my page saying that, like a tab, You know what i mean right?

Nikolce Kocovski 06:00, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Have you considered ==Header 2==? — Lapper (talk) 23:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

featured article

Why's it say "the 4Tst (pronounced "firty-tirst")"? That's clearly fourty-tirst - Quolnok 10:09, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

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