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On IE, the scene cuts right as Crackotage moves his arm the second time, so it looks more like a cut before the lime falls. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 21:17, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
On IE, the scene cuts right as Crackotage moves his arm the second time, so it looks more like a cut before the lime falls. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 21:17, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:What do you mean, on IE? Are yu saying they're delivering different content to IE users than to Firefox or Opera users? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:01, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
:What do you mean, on IE? Are yu saying they're delivering different content to IE users than to Firefox or Opera users? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:01, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
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::As part of a clearly pointless effort to get to the bottom of this, I found the "lime goof" occurs in both IE and Firefox. I have absolutely no idea what causes some people to get a different frame 1703. It's like a curse! {{User:Blendage/sig}} 00:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
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::As part of a clearly pointless effort to get to the bottom of this, I found the "lime goof" occurs in both IE and Firefox. I have absolutely no idea what causes some people to get a different frame 1703. It's like a curse!<br />(edit) After seeing the latest version of the page, have we decided that that's what happened? {{User:Blendage/sig}} 00:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
== Green Helmets ==
== Green Helmets ==

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Lil Steiny?

I thought Lil' Steiny was a reference to superhero name... --Dwedit 23:44, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

No, in an email, it's pronounced, "Stiny." The Valentine Bros.
This is actually a double reference to Stiny and Steinway & Sons. It's not a particular reference to "superhero name" because Stiny was yelled at in more than one email (see Stiny's article). —BazookaJoe 23:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Though, now that I think about it, the only use of Li'l Stiny came from superhero names. A reword is possible. —BazookaJoe 00:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I assumed it was a ref to Thy Dungeonman 3, where Thy Dungeonman's mug was referred to as "Steiny". --DorianGray
That's a similar joke, but it derives from a completely different kind of "stein", so it's not really a reference here. — It's dot com 04:51, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

About the "Gun-haver" thing

Listen...everybody and their dog seems to think that "Gunhaver! You actually Have A GUN!" is a reference about Gunhaver's never really been seen with a gun...uh...HELLO? HIS FREAKIN NAME IS "Gun"-"Haver"...DUH! user.gif user.gifDevonM(talk·cont-ribs)

But he hasn't ever been SEEN with a gun, which is the irony. —BazookaJoe 00:30, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
You forgot the "duh", BJ. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 10:00, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Did you forget to take your I.Q. pills today? 82.44.76.119 16:20, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Fourth Wall?

"The Blue Laser Commander's comment about Reinforcements' camera pretends to break the Fourth Wall." While this may be partly true, the joke (to me) was the fact it explained that Gunhaver could see into the Thanksgiving dinner somehow. Many shows have villans/heroes that somehow bring up a location on a screen with no explanation as of how they are seeing it. 76.212.89.130 04:06, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I think you're right. In fact, TBC made mention of this joke several times on the DVD commentary for the other Cheat Commandos toons. — It's dot com 04:50, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Real-world reference?

The "make a milkshake from this food" easter-egg is a reference to the "will it blend" video blog, which has shown how to make disgusting milkshakes such as "cochicken" (http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe&video=cochicken) and most recently the "thanksgiving dinner" (http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe&video=thanksgiving).

  • Hah, I thought the exact same thing when I was watching it! --AndrewNeo 18:56, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
    • blent marbles. yum. that is seriously funny. csours 22:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Lime

It says the goof is fixed. I just watched it, and it's not fixed. I updated the wiki, and it got reverted, saying that it is fixed. I just watched it again after that, and it's not fixed. I don't want to edit it again, because it will just get reverted. --DumDe 17:48, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Clear your cache. It was fixed very quickly, if indeed it was ever there at all (I never saw it). --Jay stuck at home (Talk) 17:53, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I've cleared my cache. It stays the same. Are you sure it's fixed? --TotalSpaceshipGirl3 21:14, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
It's certainly fixed on my compy. --DorianGray
It is fixed. And I put a link to an unfixed version down in the external links. — It's dot com 22:23, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
It's not fixed. Someone tell me how it could be fixed when the latest version on the site and HRWiki's mirror version give the same hash. »Blendage t.c :: 10:40, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
It's fixed in both versions. Dot com accidentally mirrored the fixed toon. I'll take the link out until the correct one is mirrored. Dot com, if you haven't got the old version anymore, I've got it. Loafing 10:54, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
This frame is still there. This is the only version of the toon I've seen, so the goof seemed to still be present. »Blendage t.c :: 11:02, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
So it is... Frame 1703, for those who don't know where to look. After you being so insistent, I finally stepped through it frame by frame instead of just dragging the seekbar, and there it was. Identical to the version I downloaded within about 30 minutes of the first mention of the toon at the wiki. Embarrassing. How did we suddenly not see it anymore? Anyways, sorry guys! ;-) Loafing 11:31, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Is step-by-step possible with the Greasemonkey script? I had to take pot luck with Pause for the above screenshot. »Blendage t.c :: 12:30, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
The vaguely arrow-looking buttons next to the seek bar ("|<" and ">|") step through frame by frame. --phlip TC 13:44, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Is it possible that TBC just changed the Flash file so that it just skips that frame on an ordinary play-through? Because when watching the toon from beginning to end, I do not see that frame, but when I go frame by frame or rewind to that scene and watch it alone, I do see that frame. Trey56 15:31, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
No, I just watched it without touching the seekbar, and it's still there. Loafing 16:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Loafing, I have it on frame 1703 in FireFox. In the version on the site, Crackotage's arm is still raised. I also looked at Dot com's yesterday, and Crackotage lowered his arm. --Jay stuck at home (Talk) 18:28, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
PS. And I don't see it when just watching the toon straight either. --Jay stuck at home (Talk) 18:34, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Just cleared my cache and checked again, and the arm definitely lowers. Crazy thought: Maybe TBC thought that Crackotage's arm should have lowered and changed the toon to make this the case? »Blendage t.c :: 18:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Jay, of course I had cleared my cache when I went through all those steps last night. And now I've cleared my cache again (and waited for about a minute until the toon was downloaded again), and the goof is still there. It's possible that we use a different version of the seekbar, giving us different frame numbers. Have stepped through it to see if the bug occurs in a different frame in the vincinity of 1703? Loafing 19:09, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes - frame 1704 is of the Blue Laser Commander. I've also checked this in two different browsers (one of which does not have the seek bar.) And, as I said, I tested Dot com's version, where the arm DOES lower. This Goof is fixed. That's all I can see. Look, to get by Blendage's theory, I'll clear MY OWN cache and tell you what happens. UPDATE: Exactly what I expected. Nothing happened. Still fixed. --Jay stuck at home (Talk) 19:18, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Teh weird! Loafing 22:01, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
First of all, it's Tom's file, not mine. All I did was post the link. Second, I loaded both the official H*R version and the mirror on this computer (which hasn't been online since last weekend) and cued them both to frame 1703 in separate tabs. The H*R version has the arm supporting the lime; in the mirror version, the lime is floating. — It's dot com 00:14, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, it's now miraculously fixed for me as well. Even though I did clear my cache Xty times before and the bug was still there. Maybe I should get some third-party "cache-ex" or something :-/ Loafing 00:21, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
I think Flash might maintain its own memory cache... sometimes you have to clear the cache and then restart the browser for stuff to update. --phlip TC 04:48, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm wondering if it could be being cached somewhere upstream of any given user's local machine, like at the ISP; that would explain how computers that had never loaded it could still see an old version. I decompiled the H*R version and the mirror version. Besides being different file sizes with different numbers of shapes, the difference between 1702 and 1703 in the mirror is three shapes (the mouth, the arm, and the candle flame), but in the H*R version it's just two (the mouth and the candle flame). I've loaded it in at least three browsers and have gotten the same result every time; I'm therefore re-updating the page to fixed. — It's dot com 05:15, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

X-Men reference

blue laser commander calling Gunhaver Charles reminded me of the X Men series, ei, Professor X's name is Charles Xavier, and Magneto calls him that instead of Professor X. But im not sure how to say that succinctly for a fun fact. csours 22:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I can sum it up in one word for you: coincidence. — It's dot com 22:21, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
um, let me lay it out for you: bad guy calls good guy by his first name. does anyone know of any other good guy named Charles, besides Charles Xavier that would be called by his first name by a bad guy? csours 22:27, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I get the connection. Maybe a DVD commentary will prove you right someday. But for now, we can't put a fun fact up based on that kind of conjecture. There's just not enough to go on to justify the speculation. — It's dot com 22:32, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
meh. but its MY conjecture. csours 18:59, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Crackotage Goof on IE

On IE, the scene cuts right as Crackotage moves his arm the second time, so it looks more like a cut before the lime falls. Retromaniac 21:17, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

What do you mean, on IE? Are yu saying they're delivering different content to IE users than to Firefox or Opera users? Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 01:01, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
As part of a clearly pointless effort to get to the bottom of this, I found the "lime goof" occurs in both IE and Firefox. I have absolutely no idea what causes some people to get a different frame 1703. It's like a curse!
(edit) After seeing the latest version of the page, have we decided that that's what happened? »Blendage t.c :: 00:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Green Helmets

I believe the word that the person who put the reference in is looking for is "Cannon Fodder". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannon_fodder --Zonis 10:16, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

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