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[edit] 2 things

1. this is the first/ maybe 2nd time strong bad closes is eyes 2. strong bad breaks the 4th wall by refrencing the title of the toon Foogs. 22:35, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Not to mention by referring to Coach Z, the Poopsmith and the KOT as "characters." -invisible_map

[edit] Stick Costume

Does anyone know what The Stick was supposed to be dressed as? For some random reason, I'm thinking Donald Duck. -141.133.145.118 00:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

nvm, just looked at the costume page. It's so fitting now! -141.133.145.118 00:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
The Stick is Lowly Worm. 207.62.231.2 00:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I think that you think The Stick is Donald is because of Donald's Robin Hood get-up. SuperfieldCreditUnion
Robin Hood was played by Daffy. Keep your ducks straight! --BigScaryMike (Talk/Contrib) 03:58, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
But why do Strong Bad and Homestar insult The Stick? Does it have something to do with the Lowly Worm get up?128.104.61.243 19:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I too would like to know why they both insult The Stick - I don't think there's a history of this? --Bombcar 16:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Not to reopen old discussions, but does anyone know the answer to this? I don't, so I think it's worth an explaination on the page DAGRON 01:21, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] No Interactivity

Does anyone else believe this toon broke a tradition for h*r halloween specials? In 2001, they had that trick-or-treat game, in 2003, they had a brief scene making fun of the trick-or-treat game, and in 2005, they had a potion game. This would be the 1st h*r Halloween special out of the ones released in an odd-numbered year not to include interactivity other than the usual Easter Eggs. Bad Bad Guy 00:33, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

...Ummm, yeah. Odd numbered years. Danny Lilithborne 03:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
...Ummm, yeah. It's 2007.

I agree with Bad Bad Guy; where would I add it, though? the trivia section or the remarks section?

Ya and in every other ween toon also has a party of some sort, this one is actually like a cheesey horror movie!

If I remember correctly, they had no Halloween parties in 2001, '05, or '06 either. Bad Bad Guy 02:25, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Not sure if this counts, but '02 DID have Kingio Bros. despite how un-gamelike it is. (Dynamite 03:40, 26 February 2008 (UTC))

[edit] About the mirror

There have been mirrors like that before the release of the Man of the Year 2006 issue (I caught a glimpse of one in a movie when flipping channels). I think saying it is a reference to that exact issue is a bit of a stretch. 207.119.175.50 00:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the mirror is a reference to an actual mirror of that type, similar to the one featured in The Big Lebowski. (The Dude peers into this mirror in The Big Lebowski's office.) Link The "You" cover is too big of a stretch, especially when one of Pom-Pom's previous costumes was Walter Sobchak. -ReverendTed 01:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Big Lebowski - probably. Time magazine - no. It looks EXACTLY like the Big Lebowski mirror and NOTHING like the Time magazine cover. I remember you used to be able to buy those mirrors, a looong time ago. Stev0 18:10, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Was Nikolai Volkoff ever on the cover of Time? --Trogga 02:09, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
No, but neither was The Dude. Stev0 15:21, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Regardless of Lebowski or MOTY '06, it still refers to Time's Man of the Year practice, doesn't it? --DorianGray 03:54, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

That's true, but as written right now, that's already linked to. Stev0 15:21, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
The reference got edited all up with the "You" business, and then the whole thing got deleted. The Big Lebowski reference is so obvious (see my link above) that I had to put it back in. -ReverendTed 02:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kids Choice Awards

When Marzipan says, "I don't know" and then the green slime oozes on her, that was a reference to the Nick Kids Choice Awards.-Ava 00:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, from what I've heard, the Nickolodeon slime tradition began on YCDTOTV. -141.133.145.118 01:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Regardless of where Nickelodeon got that tradition, that's a *direct* reference to TCDTOTV, where saying "I don't know" would get you slimed. *remembers watching that show as a kid* -YKHi. I'm Ayjo! 01:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Yep, and as clicking on Ross calls on the scene, I'd say it's an homage to YCDTOTV. It isn't even the first reference to that show on this site. Surprised they didn't throw in a "water" gag too. PlasticDiverGuy 04:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
{PlasticDiverGuy gets drenched with water} (Sorry, I couldn't resist. =P) -YKHi. I'm Ayjo! 06:47, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shower scene?

The following fact was STUFFed — let's see it can be resolved here first:

Coach Z's shower scene is a reference to the famous shower scene in the horror movie Psycho.

There was one vote and an argument against, from NFITC1: "I've seen the original Psycho and it's nothing alike it except they're in a shower." So, what do people think. Is this a reference or not, and why? Trey56 01:17, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I think that the connection to Psycho is tenuous at best. Coach Z's scene did not feature several closeups of him being attacked, nor was there the trademark high pitched staccato strings. Those would be the strongest connections to the film. wbwolf (t | ed) 01:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I think that Coach Z's line before getting attacked is a reference, not the attack itself. Shwoo 01:28, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Wbwolf, I think you're right — if it was a reference to Psycho, they really would have used the trademark music. More likely, it's just a nod to the typical "shower scene" in horror movies (which originated with Psycho, I think). So, mayhaps the fact could be modified to refer to the stereotypical scene, rather than this specific movie. Trey56 01:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I'd say this is more generally a reference to the fact that horror film starlettes are so often caught by the bad guy while in the shower. This is perhaps a subclause of the convention that the token hot chick will always die during or immediately following her topless scene. That being said, I don't think this warrants an explanatory note. -Telamon 01:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Hey. I'm the guy who originally posted this fact. As soon as Coach Z said that "a pretty thing like him" would be perfectly safe in the shower, I knew that it was a reference to those horror movies in which the heroine dies. Psycho was just the first one to come to mind because it was so well known. -141.133.145.118 02:08, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Classic Nick

There's a classic Nickelodeon theme going.

The Stick: Lowly Worm from Busy World of Richard Scarry: early Nick Jr.

Strong Bad: Beetlejuice, from a cartoon on Nick

Homestar: Artie, from Pete & Pete which was on Nick in the 80s and 90s

Homsar: the Typewriter guy from Sesame Street, which was once on Nick

You Can't Do That On Television- on Nick in the 80s

Awexome 01:32, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Beetlejuice was not a cartoon that was exclusive to Nickelodeon, but ran on other outlets (including Cartoon Network) throughout the 1990s. I know Sesame Street is on Noggin, Nick/CTW's spin-off, but I don't think it was on Nick proper. Still, three references (two exclusive, since Richard Scarry was also a series of books) is pretty strong. wbwolf (t | ed) 01:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
What about The Cheat? Was Danger Mouse on Nick too? -141.133.145.118 01:48, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, it was, as far as I can remember... back in the late '80s, early '90s, I believe. -YKHi. I'm Ayjo! 01:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

It was on TCC before Nick, however I like the fact that this is my most reconised costume episode so far. MJN SEIFER 19:31, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Beetlejuice was on Nick in syndication in the 90s. Awexome 20:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Marzipan's answering machine

Have any of you noticed that the number of messages on Marzipan's answering machine is 666? Does that mean the jibblies would have affected everybody until the're dead?-Don't say jorb 101

It just means that the rocoulm or whatever has taken over the answering machine. Presumably it picking up the call possessed it -Jdhannan 18:04, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

On a related note, do you think it's worth mentioning that 666 appeared in the teaser for this toon in the form of the running time as seen in the Toons MEnu? (On an UNrelated note, is anybody besides me a Kirbyfan? XD) but, a buttdanceNeox ONION BUBS!YOU WILL RESPECT MAH AUTHORI-TAH!!! 00:21, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] MArzipan's guitar

Hey did anyone else notice that marzipan's guitar only has five strings?

Didn't notice it. Her guitar looks like an Edwards PR-100 made by ESP though. (Search "EDWARDS by ESP PR-100" on Google and click the eBay link to see pictures)

[edit] Hammakers Slammakers?

I believe that the store when StrongBad tried to find a Xenomorph costume is supposed to be combination of Hammacher Schlemmer, a catalog store for high-end, luxery gifts (like The Sharper Image) and Hammer's Slammers, a series of military science fiction novels and short stories by David Drake.

Only the first one, as the second one doesn't fit at all. — Defender1031*Talk 18:36, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Human Grate on my nerves"

  • It sounds like "Human Gettin' on my nerves" to me. Which doesn't make any sense, but that's par for the course, really. Danny Lilithborne 03:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
    • I hear grate. As in grating nerves. --70.106.82.44 14:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Strong Bad smiling

  • Is he smiling? I think the curve of the Beetlejuice teeth make it look as though he's smiling, but if you look closer it's his usual face. Danny Lilithborne 03:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes. The whole toon. Follow the contours of his mouth. --Jay (Talk) 03:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Well blow me down, so he is. :/ Danny Lilithborne 04:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, he goes back to his normal face right before he gets jibbilied. SuperfieldCreditUnion
When you wear fake teeth, you wanna show 'em off! Ever see a little kid wearing them on Halloween? All wide grins and growls so you can see the teeth. lol. -- 208.60.233.161 20:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I thought that Strong Bad, being dressed up as Beetlejuice, was obligated to smile the entire time. but, a buttdanceNeox ONION BUBS!YOU WILL RESPECT MAH AUTHORI-TAH!!! 00:22, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] misc

A) Does anyone notice anything...unusual...about the football trophy? B) I don't hear Strong Sad saying "Xenomorph." I hear "Beatlemorph" or "Beatleborgs" or something, as if he's trying to say "Beatlejuice" three times. --71.203.169.248 04:03, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

a) What football trophy? The golbol looks normal to me. b) Strong Sad is clearly saying "Xenomorph"; he's correcting Coach Z's generic use of the word "alien" (in the Jibblies 2 Teaser, a silhouette of a Xenomorph costume is seen in place of Strong Bad.) --Jay (Talk) 08:22, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I think he means the football trophy in Strong Mad's room, but I didn't notice anything remarkable about it. --DorianGray 08:25, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Homsar smiling?

I don't think I've ever witnessed this happen before. Did he ever have such a wide smile in any other cartoon?--75.62.6.158 04:42, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I believe the reason his smile is so wide in this cartoon is to portray his chin as the top of the paper in the typewriter as best as possible without cutting off the top of his head. - PlasticDiverGuy 06:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Volkov

Someone wrote under "goofs" that "Volkoff" is a misspelling of "Volkov." This is incorrect. Russian uses the Cyrillic alphabet, and there are a number of different ways of transliterating it into ours. I've seen final "v"s and final "ff"s used interchangeably all over the place -- for instance, "Prokofiev" vs. "Prokofieff," "Rachmaninov" vs. "Rachmaninoff." The "v" is the preferred transliteration in academic/linguistic contexts, but in everday use, they're both pretty common. In fact, the Wikipedia article calls him "Volkoff." -invisible_map

Oops, I watched the toon again, and TBC spell it "Volkov," so I must have misread the "goofs" section. Either way, though, they're both acceptable spellings.
Transliteration from the Russian alphabet really isn't the issue though. If Strong Mad is meant to be the former WWE wrestler Nikolai Volkoff, the Brothers Chaps made a spelling mistake, since the name has always been Volkoff in English. - Boffo97 13:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Traditional spellings of names from languages with different writing systems are sometimes changed to more accurately reflect the pronunciation. For instance, "Mao Tse-Tung" is usually spelled "Mao Zedong" now. Sometimes the old spelling is so well-known that change is slow to catch on -- for instance, people almost always write "Lao-Tzu" for the Daoist/Taoist philosopher, even though "Laozi" is the preferred spelling among people who study this stuff. Same thing with "Prokofiev" (which has totally displaced "Prokofieff" vs. "Rachmaninov" (which is still less common than "Rachmaninoff"). Here's my point: even if "Volkoff" is the traditional and more common spelling, "Volkov" is not *wrong*. In fact, it's probably closer to the way it actually sounds in Russian (though I'd want to ask a Russian-speaker to verify that). And "Nikolai Volkov" gets 11,000 hits on Google.
Yes, I know what transliteration is. The point is, despite its appearance, the name "Nikolai Volkoff", as relates to the former pro wrestler, was never in the Russian alphabet. It was devised in English. It was flashed on screen before every one of his matches. Therefore, *for this case*, "Nikolai Volkoff" is correct, and "Nikolai Volkov" is wrong. If we were dealing with a name devised in a non English alphabet we were transliterating, then what you were saying would be correct. We are not. - Boffo97 19:17, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Re "I know what transliteration is": I'm sorry if you thought I was being patronizing. I wasn't trying to explain what transliteration was -- I was talking about how it changes historically, which you didn't seem to be taking into account. But I didn't realize that "Nikolai Volkoff" wasn't his real name until now. Since he totally made it up, you're right. Never mind!
Even if a name changes historically, if we're dealing with people who have made their own transition from another alphabet to ours, they are the ones who are picking how the transliteration occurs. Suppose Nikolai Volkoff was his real name. Or even that his family had a few generations in this alphabet using the Volkoff spelling. It'd be the height of arrogance to tell them that Volkov is also a correct spelling. My last name is Hines, from the German. It comes from very similar roots as Heinz, and there isn't the transliteration problem, but Hines is correct and Heinz is wrong. Simple as that. Now for people whose name was never transliterated (such as Genghis/Chingiz Khan), then, yes, you have a point. - Boffo97 23:10, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm a Russian speaker, and I can tell you that the Russian "v" (or "в" in cyrillic) is often "de-voiced" -- that is, it sounds like an "f." However, it's still spelled the same in cyrillic. Therefore, although the "f" sound might be closer to the actual Russian pronunciation, for consistency's sake, I would normally spell it with a "v," since most English speakers probably will not know when or how to use the "de-voiced" spelling. However, a lot of Russian names are traditionally romanized with "ff" (such as Rachmaninoff) so it gets a bit confusing. Your best bet is to put down the most widely-used one.

On a similar note, I've put a more-correct definition and pronunciation of the word "русский" (roughly pronounced "rooski") on the section with the slang term for Russians ("Russkie"). (This was before I created my account a minute or so ago.) Graymornings 16:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 2 Forum Topics

Would it be better for us to link to [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=12733 the forum topic] that started 1st or the forum topic with more replies? Bad Bad Guy 12:57, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I just found out the 1 created 1st was the 1 with more replies. Bad Bad Guy 23:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Creep...wha?

The transcript has "creep-take", the subtitles have "creep-cake". Sounds to me like Homestar's saying "creepsake" as a pun on keepsake. TTEchidna 16:11, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

It's Creepstakes. Like Sweepstakes. -- 208.60.233.69 17:46, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Whereas I heard it as Creepcakes. Like cupcakes. Or crabcakes. This could go on forever! 83.67.65.98 23:26, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
It's distinctly "Creep-take". There are no audible S sounds anywhere in the vicinity of that word. --DorianGray 21:44, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
It's Creep-stakes. Remember Homestar's lisp, and listen closer. Think - Creep-take makes no sense. Creep-stakes is a portmaneu. I've watched it multiple times with headphones, etc. It's creep-stakes. I'm putting it back since it's ... you know ... correct. -- 208.60.233.43 22:43, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Homestar doesn't have a lisp; he has trouble with his awws. Er, R's. Heimstern Läufer 22:55, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I've heard creep-take ever since the first viewing. Now after focusing on it, I give creep-take my vote of confidence. I give creep-cake an understandable interpretation. Creep-s[t]ake doesn't cut it. Note: Get headphones! Props to 208.60.233.43 for mentioning that you listened to it with them, but I think your reasoning is flawed by saying Homestar has a lisp. I also think that your headphones or brain is putting to much emphasis on the white-noise feature created around the hard consonants T and K by the reduced sound quality. Perhaps try to "trick" your brain into thinking that it's "take" and see if you can hear it then. You can practice with the I think you're cute / I hate your shoes line in disconnected. I'm able to hear it both ways there, but I can't do it with take/stakes. —BazookaJoe 03:29, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Creep-take is what it sounds most like, but it could easily be creepcake and for portmanteaus it makes more sense. So, how do we list this on portmanteaus? Or do we? OptimisticFool 05:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
No, we don't, because you just said it sounds like creeptake. —BazookaJoe 06:16, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
If we can reach a concesus well enough to put it in this article (unlike the I think you're cute / I hate your shoes debate you brought up), I think we can safely use the concesus to extend this term to the portmanteaus page. Anyway, more and more it seems (to me) that "creepcake" is what it is. The whole cupcake vs. crabcake question leaves me in doubt, though. I lean toward cupcake, since it's more likely a play on a term of endearment and "crabcake" ain't a term of endearment. OptimisticFool 06:38, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
I hear creeptake. Heimstern Läufer 07:19, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Still hearing that myself. I know I've also heard Strong Bad use the phrase "crap-take", but I can't find it. It's part of my point anyway, though. --DorianGray 07:21, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

CREEP TAKE doesn't make any SENSE as a Homestar line OR a Brothers Chaps line. It is nothing. Creepstakes is Sweepstakes with a "Cr" and it's definitely not "cake" what is wrong with this wiki?? -- 208.60.233.25 15:25, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Annnd where does it say that H*R has to make any sense? --DorianGray 18:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
I agree with this guy. It definitely sounds like Creepstakes, i.e. Sweepstakes with a Cr.134.174.140.208 05:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Again, there are no Ss anywhere near the pronounciation of the word. It's take. --DorianGray 03:26, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
I also vote for Creep-take. I can't hear an S anywhere in the word, especially not at the end. If anything, it might be "creepstake" but I really don't think that's it. (Some kind of scientist 04:00, 2 November 2007 (UTC))
Like the OP said, though, Creep-take doens't have any logical explanation that anyone has offered. Maybe it's Creepskate, like cheapskate. How do you sign posts?134.174.140.208 05:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Why does there NEED to be any logic to it? It's Homestar Runner. (And you can sign posts by typing 4 tildes, or ~~~~.) --DorianGray 05:51, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for that. Anyway, it just seems like there must be a rationale for the construction Homestar uses. And I just listened to it again and I still here the S's, especially at the end. But alas. 134.174.140.208 05:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Speakers? Headphones? Did you try using the listening method I described to see why the other side thinks they hear what they hear? —BazookaJoe 13:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

As of right now,

  • Take: BazookaJoe, DorianGray, Heimstern, Some kind of scientist, (Jay), OptimisticFool
  • Cake: OptimisticFool, 83.67.65.98, (Jay)
  • Stake(s): 208.60.233.XX, 134.174.140.208
  • Sake: TTEchidna

Did I miss anybody? —BazookaJoe 13:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I'm late to the party, but I was just re-watching last year's toon, Happy Hallow-day, and noticed that when The Goblin appears, Strong Bad says "What's this crap-take?" Perhaps Homestar's "creep-take" is a reference? — InterruptorJones 20:49, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
I changed my vote (back) to creep-take. As much as I'd like it to be a portmanteau of creep and cupcake, it just isn't. OptimisticFool 21:06, 2 November 2007 (UTC)


I listened to the audio at the voice studio where I do occasional voice-overs for anime, I'm not going to say "ZOMG THEY HAS THE BEST SOUND EQUIPMENT EVAR" but it's easy for them to digitall record, isolate, enhance, etc. Homestar is saying "Creep-Stakes", but the "s" sounds are hard to hear because of his special way of talking (Not a lisp, but if you listen to how he speaks, he says "S" differently than what one would consider "normal" along with the fact that the line is delivered quickly. Once and for all, it's definitely "Creepstakes". I'll e-mail TBC and see if they reply on this subject if you guys keep pressing it based on your personal opinion rather than what's on the audio. -- 208.60.233.4 20:43, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Feel free, but knock it off with the assumptions of bad faith. We do hear "creep-take"; it's not an attempt to push our opinions off on the article, and the fact that you are convinced we are wrong does not make it so. Heimstern Läufer 20:47, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Anony, will you provide us with an enhanced audio file, since you went to the trouble..? OptimisticFool 20:48, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Haha. Sure. Next time I'm in the studio I'll see if I can get them to load the site again, enhance the audio again, and put the file on a disk for me. That is, if TBC don't reply before the next session I'm hired for. -- 208.60.233.4 20:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
That'd be great, thanks. OptimisticFool 20:57, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm not assuming bad faith, you are by reverting the correct info. I've given nothing but rock-solid evidence in the form of the quote not making sense, meaning nothing, and having no relation to any work past or present that TBC have done - and you basically have the support of a handful of people who looked at this page. (And not even ALL the people who did.) If someone came along and edited "Hey, Homestar!" to "Play, Romroar!" because that's what they 'heard' another character say, you'd revert it for being obviously wrong, correct? Well, you guys are doing that. -- 208.60.233.4 20:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Clearly, it is not "obviously wrong" if several people hear it that way and only a few hear it the other way. You comparison is invalid. Furthermore, your argument that this quote makes no sense is hardly convincing: "creepstake" makes no more sense in the context than "creep-take" does. Frankly, anonny, you could afford to consider that possibility you might be wrong on this. And even if you're not, it's only a wiki about dumb animal characters. If we get one letter wrong, it's not going to hurt anyone. Heimstern Läufer 21:03, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
It's obviously wrong because Creep-take is nothing and Creepstakes is a portmaneu of Creep and Sweepstakes. Creepstakes makes more sense than Creep-take, and there's no two ways about that. I'm sorry, but you can't say Creepstakes makes no sense as it's a portmaneu, which TBC famously include all the time. Getting 'two' letters wrong won't hurt anyone - except for the site's correct contents and the script TBC worked on. I've e-mailed TBC on this and hopefully they'll get back to me. When they do, I wholly expect you guys to debate TBC's own reply! lol! -- 208.60.233.4 21:14, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

After a rehearing, I am not entirely convinced it is "creep-take": there is a sound that might be an S in there. But I am far from convinced that it actually is "creepstake". Heimstern Läufer 21:06, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for rehearing. It makes all the difference, doesn't it? Whew, glad to see this, thank you. (and yeah we may not agree but thanks for questioning 'creep-take') -- 208.60.233.4 21:17, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

I hear "creepcake", and that also makes the most sense to me, too. Trey56 00:10, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Using Cool Edit Pro, I applied two filters: Doppler Shifter (Ambulance), then Normalize. I didn't expect the first filter to do anything helpful, but it seems to be clearer, and Normalize brought the volume back up since the first filter dropped it a bit. I hope this helps. If not, I tried. TheGirl 02:35, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
I must conceed that the filtered version sounds like either creepcake or creeptake, rather than creepstakes... sadness : ( sorry other anony 134.174.140.208 03:51, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Length

I saw on the "Teaser Page" (Link leads to specific page, look under "Toon Title" at about the middle.) Talk:Jibblies 2 Teaser that this toon would "be amazing" if it exceeded 6 minutes. Is that important? Because I didn't see anything under Remarks about the toon being 6:44 and if it that was important to the original poster, would it have any relevance in the Remarks section of the information? Thanks Stinkoblade 16:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't suppose its 7:06 if u include homsar's scene or anything, is it? -Jdhannan 18:06, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Maybe you're referring to me, Stinkoblade? I didn't say it would be "amazing" .. I used the words "nice" and "great". Anyway, running time is listed above the transcript, no sense posting a remark about it below the transcript. OptimisticFool 06:46, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't remember exact words. I can understand that now, but what about like it is on SBEmails where it mentions longest or longest until another came out. That is what I was asking about when I wrote this.

According to the Toons menu, this is the longest Holiday toon to date, can this be important now? Stinkoblade 13:04, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Clickable button

In the answering machine scene, the right button on the machine is clickable. I was thinking maybe it would yield an Easter Egg, but no. Can any of the Flash-knowledgeable advise whether that's just because they recycled a Flash file, or is this noteworthy? —AbdiViklas 16:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm no expert, but I'm gonna assume it's because they recycled a Flash file. Nothing happens when you click it except it messes up the scene, effectively ruling out it being an Easter Egg, and recall that TBC have made these kind of mistakes before, primarily with the VCR and the Tandy and Compy's contrast buttons. -YKHi. I'm Ayjo! 18:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Um, I just cleared my cache so I could see the "new" version with the KOT and Poopsmith easter eggs, and now I can't click the button, so I'll assume it's fixed and note it on the page.-- Nevadie 22:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, that more or less confirms that it was just a glitch/flash artifact, at least. -YKHi. I'm Ayjo! 22:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Strong Sad

Should it be remarked that Strong Sad's eyes would be behind his fat kid mask, in comparison to his mouth? Or that it's odd that it's a white face, as opposed to a flesh-colored one? Heck, he pretty much just has a different head. Like the KOT when he dressed up as the mayor of Halloween Town. --Abelhawk 18:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

actually, the KOT still had his own head, he just had the mayor's facial features stuck/painted on Zatchman 23:19, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, not to mention he had a face on the other side of his head. So....is this a good remark then? --Abelhawk 03:58, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Title Card

The title card is holographic/3D. Awexome 19:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

No it's not. — Defender1031*Talk 18:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

It looks a little holographic, but it's probably just a random grindhouse-y effect. 71.231.56.40 18:40, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jibblied Bubs

The way Bubs said "uh, jibblies" reminded me of Homestar saying "uh, crapface" instead of kicking the Cheat in replacement, but that's probably a coincidence. Want to see if anyone saw it too. Danny Lilithborne 23:05, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I thought of that too. — Defender1031*Talk 18:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Where We're Going We Don't Need Rides

Is it possible the reason they decided to dress the Poopsmith as Doc Brown was because the Back to the Future ride closed this year? Bad Bad Guy 23:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

That sounds a little extreme... —Guard Duck talk 00:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I'd say it's about as likely as them using him on The Poopsmith because he's Doc BROWN. --71.203.169.248 02:11, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Electric Cacodemon

Did anyone notice the electrical noises coming from the jibblied Pom Pom? Or is that just another addition with the fixed glitches? -141.133.145.118 00:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The TIME Mirror

I understand the Big Lebowski idea, but could the mirror also be a reference to when Time named "You" Person of the Year and had a mirror on the cover? I added it just to be safe, even though it might drive the mirror into TTATOT territory.

See Talk:Jibblies 2#About the mirror. Bad Bad Guy 02:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
That comment had already been made, and removed. Personally, I don't think the "You" cover of Time magazine is a strong enough reference to be noteworthy. -ReverendTed 02:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Razor blade apples

I think that the razor blade apples could be a reference to the "I Luv Halloween" comic book. where the characters put razor blades in an apple, give it to a policeman and then frame the old woman who gave it to them on Halloween.

The razor-blade apple urban myth certainly predates the 2005 comic book. Given the nature of that book (going by what I read over at Wikipedia), I seriously doubt it's something TBC would reference directly anyway. -ReverendTed 02:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

It's the Urban Legend. 100%. --71.203.169.248 04:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WhoDonkis

Y'know, I really don't think Homestar is saying, "The Donkis must be stopped!" It sounds a lot more like Poodonkis/Pudonkis. I know, I'm just as confused as you are when it comes to the name, but it's definitely not The Donkis. This leads me to believe that "Who? Donkis is behind all this?" is not correct either. —BazookaJoe 04:10, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I heard this myself. It's definitely not just "Donkis". It does, at least, begin with an "oo" sound. Oodonkis. Udonkis? The tag only reads "onkis", so it's hard to say what it is. C'mon, TBC! Show some sketches or a quote of the week that'll clear this up for us! --DorianGray 04:17, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
I think I get what you're saying, but the thing's name is on its tag and there doesn't seem to be much space for more letters. (If it IS something other than "Donkis", expect a QoW or something.) --Jay (Talk) 09:14, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Upon pulling out my headphones to check another line, I noticed that... you're absolutely right. There's a clear consonant (I think a "P") and "oo" sound both times Homestar says the dino's name. --Jay (Talk) 10:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Let's go with Pudonkis as a good guess of spelling. Fine with everybody? —BazookaJoe 17:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
'Swhat I hear, too. I think it's a portmanteau of Donkis and the Pudong district of Shanghai. (Not really, but hey, crackpot theories are better than none, right?) Heimstern Läufer 18:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
The first time I swear he says "Cute Donkis," but the second time is so not clear. Kevinchai 21:10, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
I changed my mind, it actually is Pudonkis.
It has to be Pudonkis. I almost moved the page, but wasn't sure this is "case closed" yet.. when it is, someone else can move Donkis to Pudonkis. OptimisticFool 23:41, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
I think, at this point, the only real question is the spelling (it could be "Poodonkis".) --Jay (Talk) 23:42, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
I think that the name is Donkis, and Homestar has a habit of forgetting names and words, so it comes later as Pudonkis. In 50 e-mails, he forgot the word "deleted". In looking old, he called Homsar "Homestar."StrongBadFan99998 04:18, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
I myself thought his name was Drew Donkis, before I read the transcript. Then it said "Who, Donkis is behind all this?". But now it says "Pudonkis is behind all this?". I am still thinking that his name is Drew Donkis. Why? it's Strong Mad's. What does that have to do with anthing? Because in the facts, Strong Mad named his claymation dinosaur Doug the dino. Don't say jorb 101 7:54, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
What does doug have to do with anything? It's a different name. — Defender1031*Talk 15:05, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Strong Mad acts like a little kid sometimes. And what do little kid's do but name stuffed animals stuff like "Benny" or "Johnny". Doug the dino and Drew Donkis might be Strong Mad's names for his dinosaurs.
Don't say jorb 101 7:53 PM, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
This week's Quote of the Week confirms it. It's spelled Poodonkis.-- Nevadie 22:06, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Off topic but wiki related: Do TBC specifically tailor their quotes to clear up ambiguities on the wiki?? DAGRON 01:13, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Sometimes it sure looks that way, though of course this is over a month overdue for clearing up this one. --Jay (Talk) 01:14, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

On a Poodonkis related note since on his page this is called his debut should he be listed in the cast? --Nogain 17:37, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

No, since Poodonkis is an item. Items have Debuts listed on their pages, but are not part of the cast. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 18:19, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
O.K. thanks for clearing that up Nogain 20:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 1984

Ok. This is big. Follow me here. At the beginning and ending of the cartoon is the pumpkin card with the Roman numeral "23" under it. OK, this is because the deck only has 22 cards...BUT...23 years ago...was 1984. I realize that it was pointed out above that there's a Nickelodeon connection. OK. There's a MASSIVE 1984 connection.

In 1984 Volkoff Teamed up with the Iron Sheik.
In 1984 the top rated children's show in America was You Can't Do That On Television
Back to the Future was 1985...ok...that's close...and...time travel...off by a year. Also, in 1984, John De Lorean's cars faced tremendous problems as he was arrested for coke. Remeber, in the movie...
So So Def was founded by Jermaine Dupree in 1984.
In 1984 Jesse Jackson ran for president, not Sharpton, even though today they are generally said in the same breath. HOWEVER, Sharpton first received national attention in 1984 for leading public outcry against the relaxed treatment towards Bernard Goetz
Richard Scarry wrote five books in 1984; Busy Fun and Learn Book, Pig Will and Pig Won't, Meet the Animals, On Holiday, and finally most significantly...Lowly Worm's Bath
I don't know that much about Cacodemons. In 1984 Cacodemon Roi was written, and the [third version of D&D was in late 1983, which apparently uses these things.
In the 1980's The Far Side was huge, and the first Far Side Gallery was published.
Prince's Purple Rain was writen in 1984.
Dangermouse first hit the States on June 4, 1984.
The noony noony typewriter from Sesame Street...the famous death of Mr. Hooper Episode was Thanksgiving of 1983 (almost '84.)
The last two are kind of stretches. Pete and Pete didn't start until 1993, and the character of Andy was created for the No Shame Theater which started in '86, BUT...ok...the show, Pete and Pete, their Theme Song was written by Polaris...which was founded in ...everybody? Yes, 1984.
Then there's Strong Bad. The Xenomorph makes more sense here. Alien was made in '79, but the video game was made in 1984. In addition, Riddley Scott, who made Alien, made the very famous 1984 Apple\Macintosh commercial.
Beetlejuice however...Beetlejuice was 1989...Ghostbusters was '84, and some sites seem to have that confused (A, B, C, D, E)...Keaton was in Johnny Dangerously in 1984...and Burton made Frankenweenie in 1984...Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy's So Long and Thanks For All The Fish was written in 1984, and Ford Prefect was from the vacinity of Betelgeuse...but ok, on this one...it's a stretch. Maybe because he's Strong Sad's Big Brother. Not sure.

But...two more quotes....One from Homestar..."Brother called up Marzipan right before I ran into you." Not Big Brother? Maybe...but...from the book 1984..."It was bliss, it was eternity." --71.203.169.248 05:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't know. Most of these seem to be waaay too much of a stretch to be in the main article. Alien Video game? Okay, a Lowly Worm book was published in 1984, but the character was created long before that. Mr. Hooper's death and the Back to the Future movie are NOT 1984 references, and close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades... — 220.19.16.13 (Talk | contribs) 06:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC) (left unsigned)
I have to agree — I think the connections are a quite a stretch. Probably the only reason that there's some connection to 1984 in some of them is that TBC tend to reference things from the '80s. I'm going to remove the info from the article for now (the info I removed can be seen here). Trey56 06:50, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
But wait, you forgot a reference. XXIII represents 23, right? Well 23 is also the name of a movie made in '07 about the number 23 being numerologically connected to everything. So much so that Jim Carry goes crazy trying to convince everyone of the meaningless connections, and torches his career. CREEPY, hunh? :) MetaStar 01:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Some are more firm than others. Prince's biggest work was Purple Rain. That's 1984. That's firm. Dangermouse started here in '84. The wrestler became huge in '84. (You have to understand, the teamup wasn't just a "sporting event," it was a rather noted infamous move, they combined a "Russian" and an "Arab" into one "Evil team," that's why he's remembered. Sharpton literally first hit headlines...Farside's first gallery...YCDTOT, in 1984, it was THE #1 show amoung children, that year, and only that year. So So Def started in '84. I mean the rest are iffy, but that's not enough to raise an eyebrow, given the XXIII, seriously? Plus, the 1983 ones, they were all post Halloween, Thanksgiving and Christmas, so they were also both "XXIII" years ago, so yeah, that is close enough outside of both horseshoes, and handgrenades--71.203.169.248 11:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC).

I'm not into elaborate conspiracy theories. This is what Homestar would call a coinkydink. Stev0 15:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
(he would?) Zatchman 23:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
OK, so Homestar would say, "Yeah, yeah, you're pwobabwy wight." But everybody else would say it's a coincidence. Stev0 04:10, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
(Yes I'm about a year late, but if TBC really HAD intended for us to find out they did mean for all of those things to be linked in some crazy criptic way? Pretty genius. And awesome. Acam30 18:42, 29 July 2008 (UTC))

[edit] Fhqwhgads

I noticed when the painting is about to jibblie Strong Bad, he says his normal "Come on in here!" However, he says the first "come on" like in the song "Everybody to the Limit."

Confirm? --144.80.83.157 18:55, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I think he's just trying to emphasize the "come on", and add a little suspense. —Guard Duck talk 18:50, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

- I think it's a reference.(Some kind of scientist 17:29, 5 November 2007 (UTC))

I'm not convinced. It sounds to me more like simply adding pauses between the words. Heimstern Läufer 17:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
I think it's a reference. The sudden drop out of the background music seems to give special focus to the words, and the Rocoulm has definitely used other character references - like Marzipan's answering machine and showing up in the midst of Strong Sad's nerdiness. (Meltingemail 03:23, 9 November 2007 (UTC))

i can listen to opening part of song in my head and mix with roculm's "come on" and yeah that sounds exactly like it. prob still for the suspense though . User:Imdaman

[edit] Horrible Painting Card Number

The Horrible Painting tarot card is numbered "II" which is the Roman numeral 2. This relates to the fact that this is "Jibblies 2". It's a very quick thing that belongs on the Trivia section as people most likely don't notice - and the Brothers Chaps did put that little touch in. Please stop removing it just because I'm not registered. I say that because it's valid trivia (As valid as what the tarot cards say on the back!) and yet it keeps getting removed when other stuff isn't. It's a true fact, and it's real trivia. So stop it. >:O -- 208.60.233.43 22:50, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm, but how do you know it's II because of the toon's title? Couldn't it be coincidence? It's really a guess, that's why it shouldn't be on there. Please don't be frustrated by this, it happens to all of us, even sysops. Keep on tranglin'! Loafing 22:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
By the way, if you think people aren't taking your edits seriously because you're unregistered, you could change that quickly. Heimstern Läufer 22:59, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
And the 666 on Marzipan's answering machine could be a coincidence. :D heh. Sorry to get so mad, but... It's crazy how wikis get to the point that people just lie in wait for something to delete. It's like writing "the sky is blue" in an article and someone says "You don't know that for sure" and removes it. -- 208.60.233.25 15:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pretty Good, ..?

Horrible Painting says, "How's it going, man?" and Homestar responds: "Pretty good, ____________" .. how do we fill in the blank? "Creep-take"? That's what I hear; it sure doesn't sound like the recent change to "creep-stakes".. Neither makes sense, unless someone can explain it to me. Ideas? OptimisticFool 23:26, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Some poster said that Homestar has problems with the letter "S" as justification for "Creepstakes", but that's not true — "R" is the letter Homestar has problems with. I don't recall him ever having a problem with "S". I'm with either -cake or -take. --Jay (Talk) 23:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, maybe creepcake. As a portmanteau of creep and cupcake.. That could be. I say we stick with creepcake, unless we get a QOTW or something to contradict it. It makes the most sense.. OptimisticFool 03:40, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey, y'alls, perhaps you'd like to relocate your responses to #Creep...wha?. But please read our responses too! —BazookaJoe 03:47, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Oops, sorry about that. I didn't read the whole page, and didn't see that convo as I skimmed the TOC. I should have done a Ctrl-F. OptimisticFool 05:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
No probalo. —BazookaJoe 06:16, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Homestar does have a SLIGHT problem with "S", it sometimes comes out as a semi-lisp. -- 208.60.233.25 15:29, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gibbliet

Who do so many think the KoT is saying "Giblet giblet giblet" when he's jibblified? There is an unmistakable long "E" sound and no trace of a "T". Yes, he says "giblet" a couple of lines earlier, but that doesn't mean it's what he says when he actually has the jibblies. --Jay (Talk) 23:40, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I listened to them one at a time; each time he is saying "giblet" .. Besides believing my ears, The KoT saying "giblet" is in-character hilarity. Makes perfect sense. OptimisticFool 23:50, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
So why the long "E"s? He IS saying a long "E" sound each time, and he does NOT the one time he really says "giblet". --Jay (Talk) 23:59, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't hear long e's i hear "giblet" — Defender1031*Talk 00:01, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Listen with headphones. Keep the volume high-ish (not so high you blow out your ears, of course, but it helps.) --Jay (Talk) 07:14, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
PS. I mean it helps to use headphones and turn up the volume.
Sorry, Jay, I don't hear it either. Just "giblet" with a little schwa sound stuck between the syllables. Heimstern Läufer 07:22, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
ME TOO. --DorianGray 07:24, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
How can I be the only person to hear it? No matter when I pause, no matter how closely I listen (in fact, the closer I listen, the better I hear it), no matter how many times, I ALWAYS hear the long "E" in the KoT's "Jibblie jibblie" bit. Every single time. --Jay (Talk) 07:30, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
I also hear "Jibblie"... but I can kinda almost hear "giblet" if I really try for it. The long E is cut a little short, the stop just before the J starts a little earlier than normal... which almost sounds like a "T" if I do the aural equivalent of tilting my head and squinting... but it's still definitely "Jibblie". --phlip TC 09:57, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
I hear a string of "giblet"s. I remember thinking so when I first saw the toon, and it sounded the same a few minutes ago when I listened again. — It's dot com 21:06, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reference to a web comic?

I removed the so-called reference "Pudonkis the Dromiceiomimus stands in the same pose as the Dromiceiomimus from Dinosaur Comics." Now it's back, with the claim that the "author seems to think [it's a reference] (check out the news for 30 Oct)" .. ahem .. The author of a web comic assuming a reference does not make it so. The Dromiceiomimus is the white one. Opinions? OptimisticFool 00:02, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

The additional bit of information is that the particular strip I liked to has a H*R reference (namely Fhqwhgads). It seems highly likely that there is a little mutual appreciation, combined with a very parclulular pose and and an uncommon dinosaur which just happens to be part of the comic. To me, that seems more than just coincidence nor TTATOT. wbwolf (t | ed) 01:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
A dinosaur as obscure as a "dromiceiomimus", standing in the exact same pose that the character Dromiceiomimus stands in for every single episode of a very-popular webcomic (one which has even been referenced in a Motley Fool article), which has previously slipped in references to H*R - I think this one is indisputable. -ReverendTed 02:06, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, it certainly is disputable! But to me, it seems likely that this is a reference - solely based on SB saying the whole name instead of just "dinosaur". That's definitely a hint. Loafing 02:23, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, the "parclulular" pose doesn't sell me, but once again I'm out of my element. I don't have an appreciation for web comics whatsoever and certainly wouldn't know which ones are popular. This one in "parclulular" doesn't appear to be entertaining in the least (granted, that's my opinion, but everyone's entitled to my opinion), so how could I know that it's popular? And popularity doesn't necessarily make it a reference, but if it's such a slam dunk, keep it. Whatever. Oh, and I don't mind saying that I don't know what a Motley Fool is, either. And don't waste keystrokes explaining it to me. OptimisticFool 03:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
It's a reference. Especially coming on the heels of the recent SBemail "Web Comics", which shows The Bros. know their, well, Web Comics. Stev0 04:15, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
When have you ever even heard of a dromiceiomimus except in Dinosaur Comics? It's not like Pudonkis is a stegosaurus or a T-rex, or even a pachycephalosaurus or a dimetrodon. This is a seriously obscure species of dinosaur. The likelihood of TBC choosing it randomly, AND putting it in the same strange, awkward posture as that of the dromiceiomimus in Dinosaur Comics by sheer coincidence, is extremely low. Especially since it means they'd have to have never seen Dinosaur Comics before, and it's clear from web comics that they read at least a few web comics. -invisible_map

[edit] Horrible Rocoulm

I think there should be better seperation between the terms Rocoulm and Horrible Painting. It's a little confusing in the transcript because the image on the tarot card is just of Rocoulm sans canvas, and when Homestar steps inside the painting, he's not inside Rocoulm himself. The way it's worded now has Homestar steping into the painting and then talking to the painting, from inside it's belly or something. The character's name is Rocoulm and the Horrible Painting is his domicile.--.Johnny Jupiter! talk cont 02:40, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

The horrible painting itself doesn't talk, the subject of the painting does! So, I agree. Separate. It should read: "...the Horrible Painting approaches him from behind.} ROCOULM: Come on in heeeeeeere.... " etc. Any naysayers? OptimisticFool 05:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Thing is, despite how confidently it's stated on the Horrible Painting's page, we actually don't know the name of the subject of the painting - we just THINK it's Rocoulm because we don't know what else "Rocoulm" could mean. --Jay (Talk) 16:19, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Well if we're going to state it so confidently somewhere else, shouldn't it be the same wiki-wide? Well, I don't think it's a big deal to call it Rocoulm, but if we can't, how about at least call it "Demon Holding a Tourch"? That would do just as well for cutting confusion.--.Johnny Jupiter! talk cont 23:41, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
We could just call him the Horrible Painting Demon, eh?--Spirit-O-Saint-Loolie

[edit] Marzipan's smile

Anyone else notice that Marzipan stops smiling during Homestar's easter egg for no adequately explored reason? Maybe she's still pissed off about what Homestar said to her during her easter egg, but that's an unusual disconnect.

They probably forgot to change it, not after Marzipan's easter egg, but after Bubs'. She also stops smiling in The Poopsmith's and The King of Town's easter eggs, which were added later. DEI DAT VMdatvm center\super contra 09:39, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nightmare Before Christmas?

Looks like the odd colors inside the painting may be a reference to this black light scene in Nightmare Before Christmas. Anyone? http://youtube.com/watch?v=DnH_OJcpZYQ

  • I think it's more a reference to the fact that it's a black light painting. Danny Lilithborne 02:15, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
  • It was probably to match the cartoony style of the Horrible Painting. And I don't get the immediate connection to blacklight. 71.231.56.40 18:33, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Holy Water?

When Strong Bad says he Needs Holy Water, It is a referance to Castlevania. - Toonypie

Holy Water is an old, old cliche associated with horror films, mainly vampire and werewolf films. Castlevania was only carrying on the tradition. 71.231.56.40 18:28, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Inverted colors?

I don't think Homestar's colors are inverted when he's inside the Horrible Painting. If you copy paste an image of him in the Horrible Painting onto a program such as MS Paint, and invert the colors, Homestar does not go back to his regular colors. Thrashmeister 15:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

You're right. The magenta-and-white stripes on Homestar's shirt would be green-and-black when inverted, and his yellow wig would be blue. Actually, Homestar's shirt is red-and-blue striped and his wig is brown. I removed the fact. --Jay (Talk) 16:12, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Person of the Year 2006 Reference

I really want to delete the reference to the time Magazine "You" cover, but it's gone back and forth several times already so there's obviously someone who thinks it's a noteworthy reference. (Can I request that it be STUFF'd?) -ReverendTed 17:59, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Seriously, why can't this be a double reference? I saw the screen cap you posted which convinced me of the Big Lebowski reference, but the nature of the 2006 Person of The Year cover makes it plausible as an additional reference. (We are talking about an internet cartoon show, after all— exactly the sort of content that the Time article was targeting.) It really does work either way. wbwolf (t | ed) 18:20, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
While your point regarding the "targeted content" is what I'd consider the most convincing argument so far for inclusion of PotY 06 as a reference, there just isn't enough in the toon to convince me that there's any relation. Examples of things that would be evidence of such: If it looked at all like the cover in question, if it said "Person of the Year", or "2006" or "You", if the mirror was all crinkly and distorted like the foil ones used for that issue, or if Strong Mad made a comment to the effect that "YOU ARE PERSON OF THE YEAR!" I will admit, however, that it really doesn't matter whether it's there or not - it's just a Wiki about a cartoon. -ReverendTed 02:12, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Agree with Father Ted. I don't think the "You" cover fits very well, especially since there's a much more obvious reference choice. I also think it's about time to STUFF this but a lot of people get touchy about that so I don't have the guts to start it.(Some kind of scientist 17:27, 5 November 2007 (UTC))
Nor do I. -ReverendTed 02:12, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Personally, I think the way the "Time" mirror fact is worded now (no Lebowski, no 2006 cover) seems to be best way. It gets at the base reference. wbwolf (t | ed) 15:00, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

I disagree, since it's now simply stating the obvious. Given the history of references to the movie, I think it's fair to say that it's a Big Lebowski reference. While Loafing claims the fact was "patently false" as written, probably based on the "exactly the same" wording, I figure it should read "...very similar to a mirror shown in the film..." I know I prompted a STUFF of the "You" cover, but here I'd be tempted to STUFF the Lebowski thing. -ReverendTed 03:05, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CGA, not CMYK

I would question the link to the CMYK color model on the remark about Homestar in the painting...the colours are reminiscent of CGA graphics, a very old graphics standard, while images in the CMYK colour model have no particular affinity for the colours cyan, magenta, yellow, or black. --Danaris 16:09, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree that CMYK doesn't really make sense in that context, but I wouldn't peg it as CGA, either. It appears to be more a "black light" color thing. -ReverendTed 02:05, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Meh!

As those of you who have been to my talk page (two or three of ya, probably) know, I pride myself in my fluency of a-da Cheeeat. I think I understand his lines while in The House of the Brothers Strong, so I'm gonna go ahead and be bold and edit them into the commentary. If anyone has any problems with what I added, you know who to blame. -- Onamuji 12:33, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

No, that's bad, we never put words into the cheat's mouth. — Defender1031*Talk 15:10, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Okay, new question. Do we have a style manual here? Because if we don't, we should add one. See Wookieepedia for a good example of another wiki's special rules.
My point here is simply that we should add a rule that the Cheat's words are never added to his speech, unless we come to a decision that it's really, really clear, like that time in coloring when he said "Okay." --Onamuji 13:30, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes, we have a manual of style. Shwoo 13:52, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
But guys, The Cheat got the Jibblies. We should put down on the transcript that The Cheat starts making Jibblie-ish noises instead of saying he continues screaming. It really isn't putting words in his mouth. but, a buttdanceNeox ONION BUBS!YOU WILL RESPECT MAH AUTHORI-TAH!!! 16:47, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
I wouldn't object to a mention of "Jibblie-ish" noises, but I don't think the rest of it is necessary.Some kind of scientist 21:56, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Killer Instinct music?

All right, being as though I'm a staff member of SNESMusic.org, I know a bit more about SNES music than is probably healthy.

A recent fun fact states that the music in the toon was "based on" music from Killer Instinct, but going by the existing SPC soundtrack, I'm gonna have to conclude one of two things... One, the SPC set is missing a song, or two, the fact is... well, wrong.

Either way, could whoever added that fact be a bit more specific? -YKHi. I'm Ayjo! 08:54, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

See File:HR vs KI.ogg for a comparison. — Defender1031*Talk 11:36, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is That Come On In Here A Come On In Here?

I noticed that in the easter egg transcript, the "come on in here" is in the form of question . . . is it really? It didn't sound like the Horrible Painting was asking a question. -WarthogDemon 23:57, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, but he sounds somewhat uncertain. --Trogga 00:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
No he doesn't. — Defender1031*Talk 00:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes he does, listen real closely. --Trogga 00:31, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
I did, and he doesn't, and going back and forth with "yes he did", "no he didn't" isn't going to help anyone, so unless you have something new to say, let's wait for some more opinions. — Defender1031*Talk 00:33, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
It's very very clear that his inflexion goes up towards the end of the sentence. Very very clear evidence of a question. Flashfight
Yeah, sounds like a question to me, too. OptimisticFool 19:44, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Why would it be a question? — Defender1031*Talk 19:54, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Because Homsar is well-known in the Homestar Runner universe for being an odd duck, even to the point where the horrible painting guy might be aware of it. It seems probable that he was nervous about even talking to Homsar, so in crept some doubt that led him to phrasing his "come on in here" in a way that it sounded like a question. And it turns out he was right to be nervous because Homsar ended up giving him the jibblies. OptimisticFool 20:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
'Xactly. I agrees with the Fool. --DorianGray 20:27, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Not that I'm in disagreement or anything, if this is the case, I'm wondering why the Horrible Painting decided to let The Goblin in . . . but I'm pretty sure I'm thinking too hard about this. -WarthogDemon 23:01, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
I, too, think it sounds like a question. -ReverendTed 17:38, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Closed STUFF

[edit] STUFF of the year

The Time Magazine Person of the Year mirror that Strong Mad uses at the beginning of the cartoon refers to Time Magazine's "Person of the Year" award. It more specifically refers to the 2006 issue of the award, in which they chose to honor "You."

The vote was only on the part in bold.

Posted on: 01:56, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Closed: 02:23, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was unanimously declined, 10–0. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/Jibblies 2.

[edit] Costume name glitches

Has anybody noticed that when you click and hold somebody at the end, then drag your mouse to Homsar, the names overlap? Seems like something that should be put in the glitches section. Gollum999 05:55, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

That's not really a notable glitch... It's something very typical of Flash, I think. The Main Pages do that all the time. --DorianGray 05:57, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Well yeah, but its listed as a glitch in the main page section, right? Gollum999 16:11, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The LOADING

Is this a possible reference to the Highlander II: The Quickening? They're making fun of sequel conventions, and Highlander II is a famously bad sequel. That's the first thing that sprung to mind when I saw the loading screen. --129.237.88.160 08:22, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't think so. All the tarot cards in the toon begin with "The", and the one on the loading screen is no exception. --DorianGray 08:24, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jibblies Page Unlinked?

This seems so obvious that I figure I'm simply overlooking it, but shouldn't Jibblies be linked somewhere in this article? -ReverendTed 03:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jibble Jibblies

Looks like Homsar reflected the jibblies causing the Horrible Painting to get the jibblies. HAJ 22:35, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

To me, it appears that the Horrible Painting's jibblies had no effect, and Homsar responded with his own jibblies rays from his hat. -ReverendTed 23:34, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
I agree with the Reverend. --DorianGray 23:35, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
I agree with HAJ, But we never know like Sweet Cuppin' Cakes
This is all speculation. — Defender1031*Talk 20:55, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ushanka

Under Explanations:

  • A ushanka ... is a round fur hat, usually black, traditionally worn by Russian men. ...

Er... We're adding an explanation "fun fact" to explain something that only exists on the page because we used an obscure word in the transcript? Isn't that a little convoluted and self-indulgent? I'm going to take this out and simplify the transcript. If others feel strongly that this article needs to educate people about what a ushanka is, then put it in Remarks where it belongs. I generally expect Explanations to explain things that appeared the toon itself. --TheNicestGuy 15:58, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Immediately reverted as "important". But why don't we explain that the thing around Sarducci Bad's neck is called a stole, and it's used in Roman Catholic vestments with various symbolic colors? (Oops! He's wearing red in the wrong season!) Or that the thing around Marziprince's neck is called a jabot, and it was a common style in the 18th century?
Because their only relevance to the toon is that they're duplicating the costumes of external characters. Once I know who each costume is supposed to be, details about why the originals dressed that way usually don't enhance my enjoyment of the toon. Especially when it boils down to something as mundane as, "Strong Mad wears a stereotypically Russian hat," when Nikolai Volkoff was obviously a stereotypical Russian character.
On top of that, it makes the article hard to read when there's a word nobody knows listed in the Transcript with the explanation pages lower, and then a word nobody knows explained in the Fun Facts with no mention of it in the toon. Like I said, if it's really "important", put it in one spot: Remarks. --TheNicestGuy 19:11, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm inclined to agree with TheNicestGuy. OptimisticFool 19:16, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
I can see both sides of this argument, but I agree with TheNicestGuy for leaving it colloquial in the transcript, and then putting\leaving the word and link to ushanka in Explanations. -ReverendTed 05:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Backup is nice, but someone will have to actually do the honors if we're satisfied. I loathe revert wars, so I make it a policy never to make the same edit twice. --TheNicestGuy 15:33, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

The fact itself is kinda dubious, methinks, after looking at the wiki article. Ushanka doesn't translate to hat, shapka does, which is what it's called in English-speaking world (indeed, that's the only thing I've heard it called besides generic "Russian hat" and the like). I'd support the fact, (I do like the idea of having a more general term in the transcript), but I think it might need to be reworked. On a similar note, although the had SM wears is instantly recognizable as a stereotypical russian hat, it doesn't seem to have earflaps, which are apparently necessary to truly be a ushanka. Is this important? -DAGRON 16:35, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Why, yes. Yes it is. Take a look at this video, which has a few close-ups of Volkoff in his hat. It's not a ushanka! It's sort of a... furry pillbox hat, no flaps. Which is exactly what Strong Mad wears too. Faithful piece of costume, nothing more. --TheNicestGuy 17:36, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Giblets

Should we explain what giblets are? I doubt that very many people know what they are. Or is that not neccesary? TreeWithAChainsaw 22:28, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Seeing as we explain giblet gravy in more armies, I don't think it's too farfetched to add a fact explaining giblets. Has Matt? (talk) 23:44, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kind of adding

Kind of an addition to the answering machine thing, about the anti-Christ and 666, I was thinking we may want to add that to the article about it, so I'm kind of new here, and I need to know just where I would put it under, IF we want to add it that is. (Dynamite 03:17, 26 February 2008 (UTC))

Jibblies 2#Explanations already has a link to a Wikipedia article about 666. Bad Bad Guy 03:21, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Football player

Since the football player on Strong Mad's dresser's jersey is blue and his number is 10, would that make him Eli Manning? Homestar-Winner (talk) 23:54, 9 March 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Homsar's line

I'm pretty sure Homsar says "I'm a touchy-feely Dalek" (as it's pronounced DAH-lek). It just jumped immediately on me as his costume also resembles the Daleks' cybernetic armour from the long running BBC science fiction TV series Doctor Who. It also gave me more giggles, as Daleks aren't actually very touchy-feely, being just mechanically bent on the extermination of all humans, having no feelings or remorse, just orders to kill. 20:18, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I hear what was placed in the subtitles. Phonetically haw-lik. Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns also states "This response makes sense in reference to his costume, the "Noony Noony Noo" Typewriter Guy and can be interpreted as "I like using myself to type."" I agree with it. Stribbs 21:37, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Now I agree with the "touchy-feely-holic" line, but I strongly recommend against using that Analysis page for discussions such as this (I recommend against having the page on the Wiki in the first place, but that's neither here nor there.) You can bend "touchy-feely Dalek" into the situation at hand too, as anonny did earlier. --Jay (Talk) 21:49, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fast Forward: Mole people

Strong Bad talks about evolving into mole people, and mole people actually show up (unseen, but heard) in Homestar Ruiner, playing a key role in progressing through the game (and providing the King of Town with a reason to get back at Strong Bad in the next episode).

I thought about Homestar Ruiner when I saw this toon too (I played Homestar Ruiner before I saw it).--Thy Not Dennis (t/c) 18:07, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Possible reference?

Is it possible that the toon's title (Jibblies 2) and the joke about it not having a "first movie" is a reference to "Troll 2?" Troll 2 wasn't actually a sequel and had nothing to do with the original "Troll" movie, it just borrowed the name and added a 2.

[edit] Coherent Response? Not These Days

Strong Sad's quote, "Original in a horror movie? Not these days.", seems to be an odd response to Strong Bad's description of the toon. StarFox 17:47, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

He's making a joke about the fact that Strong Bad referred to a horror movie as "original", when the genre is known for copycats. What exactly are you trying to get at? We're not explaining the (really really obvious) joke in the article if that's what you're asking. --Jay (Talk) 18:15, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Marzipan is Unable to Battle?

Ok, when Marzipan is having the Jibblies, and her eyes are swirled like that, should I put it in refrences that that type of eye use is from the Pokemon series? When a pokemon is unable to battle, their eyes become swirls, that are exactly identical to Marzipans! Thoughts? Jibblejibblejibble

Marzipan's eyes are spinning. From what I remember, Pokémon eyes remain perfectly still when they are swirled and unable to battle. Just adding a thought; not suggesting yes or no right now. The Knights Who Say Ni 03:01, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
I knew Marzipan's eyes were spinning, but if you still shot a frame of her with the spinning eyes, and look at a photo of a pokemon unable to battle, the design is the same... or rather, very close to the same... Jibblejibblejibble
The "swirling eyes to denote unconsciousness or mind-control" thing far, far, FAR predates Pokemon. --Jay (Talk) 18:15, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Unexplained immunity to the Jibblies?

I'm a little surprised that this didn't already come up. It appears for some, unexplained reason, that Homestar is immune to the Jibblies, considering he didn't get them when the Horrible Painting said "Come on in here..." to him. Of course, this may also have to do with the fact he turned his head the exact moment it spoke, but it may not be based off of "hypnosis". Perhaps this would be mentioned in the "Remarks" section?

It is mentioned somewhere—that he is too "oblivious" to contract the jibblies (and that Homsar can apparently deflect it). --Image:Homsariconformysig.gifBroncoTroll 20:02, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
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