Talk:History according to Strong Bad

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Ding! History according to Strong Bad is a featured article, which means it showcases an important part of the Homestar Runner body of work and/or highlights the fine work of this wiki. We also might just think it's cool. If you see a way this page can be updated or improved without compromising previous work, feel free to contribute.


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Still Not Funny

Might old comics and The Castlefunnies fit in here, since it was supposedly a newspaper strip that ran 60+ years ago? There's even a fun fact on it being of debatable continuity... --DorianGray

Cheers! Any updates are greatly appreciated. Thatanonnywhocan'tbestuffedgettinganaccount, 6:50 WST

Unnatural

Could unnatural count because of its plothole concerning the Kashi?

Don't think so. We could actually see all this happening. The Kashi bit fits just fine on the inconsistancies page. --DorianGray 00:41, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
The talk page for inconsistencies settled once and for all that it should only include inconsistencies that span at least two toons. Bad Bad Guy 00:48, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Conjecture

I think we really need a conjectural title tag for articles like this. Here are some good examples of them from Wookieepedia and Super Mario Wiki. Conjecture tags improve the professionalism and credibility of fiction wikis immensely, and users may be turned off by articles using unofficial terminology without warning. Thanks, and great article, by the way. Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif) 17:27, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

You're referring to the fact that the name of this article, Strong Bad Lore, is a descriptive term we invented to describe the content of the page rather than something taken directly from the original source. This is true. However, the title is not conjecture per se. Maybe something like "This page describes a phenomenon or theme within the Homestar Runner universe. The title of the page is descriptive only." — It's dot com 17:48, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Good idea. A conjecture tag may still prove useful for articles, though. Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif) 18:27, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Title change

Strong Bad Lore sounds like a fanon term and I think Strong Bad's Lore would be better grammar. Would anyone mind if I moved the page? Thanks, the evil, dead Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif) 15:32, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm in favor of that new title. Anyone else? kai lyn 16:32, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Me. SamSF%20sig.jpgFisher (Come in, Lambert.) 14:41, 8 March 2007
I strongly oppose. It's a perfectly fine title. Loafing 20:34, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I think the title could be improved upon altogether. Based on the definition of lore, it just doesn't seem like the right word to describe this page. Granted, "Stuff Strong Bad made up that's probably not true" is a little cumbersome, but is there something along those lines that would fit better? — It's dot com 20:38, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

How about renaming it to something like Strong Bad Fiction or Strong Bad's Stories? Sounds simple enough. Okay so I'm still not 100% happy with those, but perhaps they are better than lore. --Stux 21:25, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I like Strong Bad's Stories. And what makes it "perfectly fine," misguided Loafing? Misleading readers into thinking something you made up is an official, canon Homestar Runner term is "fine"? Or are you assuming The Brothers Chaps will find the name so funny, they incorporate it into the actual show universe (don't want to get blocked by Loafing for not calling it what he calls it)? Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif) 10:58, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
"Lore" isn't a good title... I noticed this even while I supported featuring the article. I don't really love Strong Bad's Stories; Strong Bad('s) Fiction sounds a bit clearer and more encyclopedic to me. If I could think of some more encyclopedic term for "wild made-up tales", I would suggest that. Heimstern Läufer 18:16, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
How about "Strong Bad's Tall Tales"? I don't like the constant capitalization at all, though, because it makes it look like an official term when it's not (for example, saying "[random capitalized name for an occurance here] is often seen in the..."). I'm not referring to in the article title, by the way. Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif) 03:49, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
I like fiction. It perfectly demonstrates the title in an encyclopedic way, and in my opinion, Stories, Tall Tales, and Lore are a little more... unprofessional. Bluebry 03:51, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
But we don't know if it's all fiction. --Trogga 03:59, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
True. And while it may be stories and tales (Tall tales? No. Tales? Yes. Tails? Sonic is awesome.), it's definitely not lore. However: Do we have any proof other than Strong Bad's word that it ISN'T fiction? We can't assume it's fiction, and we can't assume it's nonfiction. Anyone got any neutral, encyclopedic-sounding titles? Bluebry 04:08, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
"History According to Strong Bad". — It's dot com 04:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
I like it. It's neutral, pretty professional sounding. Anyone object? Bluebry 04:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
I like it too — it sounds professional, and it doesn't place a true or false judgment on his stories. Trey56 04:17, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
I like that too. Really straightforward. Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif) 08:21, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Sure, good by me. Heimstern Läufer 08:43, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Sixth'd for History According to Strong Bad Dr. Clash 03:04, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
"History According to Strong Bad" — SamSF%20sig.jpgFisher (Come in, Lambert.) 10:28, 11 March 2007
Moved. — It's dot com 02:58, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Good jorb. Nicely overhauled and looks like it's free of any grammatical issues like "this is a good example of history according to Strong Bad." Keep up the good work, y'alls. Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif) 14:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

looking old

Can we count the sect of monks that closely guards his secret age? Bad Bad Guy 06:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Probably. Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif) 08:22, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Most likely, but it seems more like a joke than a story, or tale, or a history. Plus, we can't add every single little joke we think might be untrue. Bluebry 15:42, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
OK, I think this may be one issue with the title "history according to Strong Bad." That sort of destroys the possibility of adding relevant possible truths presented by Strong Bad such as this one, as they do not reflect anything historical. Before the title change I would have definitely voted on the looking old thing, though Bluebry is right that adding such could cause flooding, since this is such a recurring thing. Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif) 14:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
As I wrote in the article's history page, TrogdorCon doesn't feel historical either, so I think either we keep both or we remove both. Bad Bad Guy 15:27, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't think TrogdorCon really fits on here. It's not so much Strong Bad making up history or even the future as him being clueless as to what year it is and where he is. Or else him just making stuff up. In which case, not everything he makes up belongs here. Heimstern Läufer 01:14, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
I agree, hands down. When I saw that, I also wondered "Does this belong here?" It's-it's just him not really comprehending what's going on around him. AKA He's clueless. Bluebry 01:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Despite what I already said twice, one reason I found to keep lookin old but not TrogDor Con is that he did not mean to make something up in TrogdorCon but in looking old he did. Bad Bad Guy 17:19, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

So...is looking old gonna stay? Bad Bad Guy 23:47, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Origins

I personally think it's believable except for the last sentence, which I added in. What's questionable about the rest of it?Bad Bad Guy 02:48, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Should these go?

Lunch special and looking old aren't history-related, but no one has objected to keeping them there yet. Bad Bad Guy 00:34, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't think they should be removed; they fit with the original intent of the page, if not the current title. If it helps, history can refer to the distant past, the recent past, the present, or the future. — It's dot com 19:41, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
I agree, these go well with the original intent of the page, perhaps we haven't quite hit the right "title" yet to we can split these off into 2 or 3 pages. I also wanted to mention this removed segment, in that, though not exactly lore, and definitely not history, is a notable instance of Strong Bad calling something whatever he wants and for who knows what purpose. Anyway, in any case, it's made up (come to think of it, that might've made a better page title). --Stux 19:47, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
"Reality according to Strong Bad"? Too broad? — It's dot com 19:52, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Now a Strong Bad based Reality show would be cool! Oh wait, that has nothing to do with the discussion. I dunno, I don't think it's that broad -- at least not compared to "made up" -- since it would only encompass things that are not real but that Strong Bad (and to some degree The Cheat) consider to be real. And we could limit this to events at that. ...? --Stux 22:40, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
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