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::::::''{Takes a deep breath and prepares himself}'' Ok. Once again, we find ourselves with another suggestion to merge all the little articles. And you know what? I don't think whether the outcome of this discussion, whatever it will be, will make that happen. Why? Because it was done before. Twice. Both times it failed completely. The first it was in the Tavi days when we had the "Rejects" section. All those little minor things were dumped there in a long article. Then It became so long they split each one and made a list. Then when we moved to MW, it was decided to get rid of the "Rejects" and go the more professional way and just have pages for each one. Fast forward a few years later, and there was what people now call "Merge Craze". Minor Items, Minor this, Minor that... The only thing left from this is [[Minor Foods]]. Those didn't work when we had less then 1000 articles. We now have over 2000. Not only will the list will be huge, and so large the page will takes a lot of time to load, we'd have to decide on a case-by-case basis on what's "minor" and what is not. If we go that way I predict many heated debates and long discussion on at least half the items. And besides, if anyone forgot, we already have ''two'' item lists on the wiki: '''[[Items]]''' and '''[[:Category:Items]]'''. The first one needs updating really really bad. (People tend to forget some of our most important pages. Like [[Characters]]) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:26, 11 August 2008 (UTC) | ::::::''{Takes a deep breath and prepares himself}'' Ok. Once again, we find ourselves with another suggestion to merge all the little articles. And you know what? I don't think whether the outcome of this discussion, whatever it will be, will make that happen. Why? Because it was done before. Twice. Both times it failed completely. The first it was in the Tavi days when we had the "Rejects" section. All those little minor things were dumped there in a long article. Then It became so long they split each one and made a list. Then when we moved to MW, it was decided to get rid of the "Rejects" and go the more professional way and just have pages for each one. Fast forward a few years later, and there was what people now call "Merge Craze". Minor Items, Minor this, Minor that... The only thing left from this is [[Minor Foods]]. Those didn't work when we had less then 1000 articles. We now have over 2000. Not only will the list will be huge, and so large the page will takes a lot of time to load, we'd have to decide on a case-by-case basis on what's "minor" and what is not. If we go that way I predict many heated debates and long discussion on at least half the items. And besides, if anyone forgot, we already have ''two'' item lists on the wiki: '''[[Items]]''' and '''[[:Category:Items]]'''. The first one needs updating really really bad. (People tend to forget some of our most important pages. Like [[Characters]]) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:26, 11 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::::::How about [[Miscellaneous Items]]? An article listing all these one time items that don't fit anywhere else? At least the title sounds better than [[Minor Items]] to me. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 12:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC) | :::::::How about [[Miscellaneous Items]]? An article listing all these one time items that don't fit anywhere else? At least the title sounds better than [[Minor Items]] to me. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 12:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
| + | ::::::::[[Miscellaneous Items]] or [[One-time Items]] sound good. I like one-time items even more, because then there's a clear guideline on what items could be on the page. Items with only one appearance. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 17:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
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Merits of this page
I would like to know what others think of this page. I personally do not think it deserves an entire article. As funny as it is, I highly doubt it will make another appearance and there's really not much to say about it that cannot be ascertained by watching geddup noise and reading the label of this product. And since this product is apparently approved by a certain noise, why not merge with The Geddup Noise? —THE PAPER PREEEOW 06:09, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)
- It's times like this I think there should be a Minor Items list, like the Minor Alternate Versions list and the Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters list... Then there's nothing lost, and if it ever appears again we can always pull it out to its own page again (I can't stand the "you never know, we might see it again" argument) --phlip TC 09:19, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)
- I'm surprised there isn't already a minor items list for the tiems that pop-up in easter eggs, but I guess most of those are food. Mior foods wouldn't be too difficult to make. It's just a matter of someone actually taking the time to compile all of those items together. — Acam30
23:04, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not a fan of pages like that. They're too broad, and unnecessarily bring disparate items together into a list. I don't think this article needs merging. Heimstern Läufer
23:13, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
- On the flip side, I am a fan of pages like that, while I'm *not* a fan of pages like this one. They're too short, not very interesting or informative, and it seems like overkill to have so many entire pages devoted to minor one-shot items. I think it *should* be merged. That said, I don't think "Minor X" pages are arbitrarily lumping things together at all. There's simply not much we can *say* about them, and at least from my viewpoint, it's far easier to read about them in a place where they're all conveniently together than to have to shuffle through a dozen separate one-line pages. -YK
00:34, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
- Minor Items is a particularly problematic article. "Item" is extremely broad. I can support something like Minor TGS Characters, as they're clearly related, but not so much minor items. If someone could come up with something less broad, that would be better (though I really don't get what's wrong with these short articles. Last time I checked, the wiki isn't paper.) Heimstern Läufer 04:54, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
- {Takes a deep breath and prepares himself} Ok. Once again, we find ourselves with another suggestion to merge all the little articles. And you know what? I don't think whether the outcome of this discussion, whatever it will be, will make that happen. Why? Because it was done before. Twice. Both times it failed completely. The first it was in the Tavi days when we had the "Rejects" section. All those little minor things were dumped there in a long article. Then It became so long they split each one and made a list. Then when we moved to MW, it was decided to get rid of the "Rejects" and go the more professional way and just have pages for each one. Fast forward a few years later, and there was what people now call "Merge Craze". Minor Items, Minor this, Minor that... The only thing left from this is Minor Foods. Those didn't work when we had less then 1000 articles. We now have over 2000. Not only will the list will be huge, and so large the page will takes a lot of time to load, we'd have to decide on a case-by-case basis on what's "minor" and what is not. If we go that way I predict many heated debates and long discussion on at least half the items. And besides, if anyone forgot, we already have two item lists on the wiki: Items and Category:Items. The first one needs updating really really bad. (People tend to forget some of our most important pages. Like Characters) — Elcool (talk)(contribs) 05:26, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
- How about Miscellaneous Items? An article listing all these one time items that don't fit anywhere else? At least the title sounds better than Minor Items to me. – The Chort 12:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- Miscellaneous Items or One-time Items sound good. I like one-time items even more, because then there's a clear guideline on what items could be on the page. Items with only one appearance. — Acam30 17:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- Miscellaneous Items or One-time Items sound good. I like one-time items even more, because then there's a clear guideline on what items could be on the page. Items with only one appearance. — Acam30
- How about Miscellaneous Items? An article listing all these one time items that don't fit anywhere else? At least the title sounds better than Minor Items to me. – The Chort 12:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- {Takes a deep breath and prepares himself} Ok. Once again, we find ourselves with another suggestion to merge all the little articles. And you know what? I don't think whether the outcome of this discussion, whatever it will be, will make that happen. Why? Because it was done before. Twice. Both times it failed completely. The first it was in the Tavi days when we had the "Rejects" section. All those little minor things were dumped there in a long article. Then It became so long they split each one and made a list. Then when we moved to MW, it was decided to get rid of the "Rejects" and go the more professional way and just have pages for each one. Fast forward a few years later, and there was what people now call "Merge Craze". Minor Items, Minor this, Minor that... The only thing left from this is Minor Foods. Those didn't work when we had less then 1000 articles. We now have over 2000. Not only will the list will be huge, and so large the page will takes a lot of time to load, we'd have to decide on a case-by-case basis on what's "minor" and what is not. If we go that way I predict many heated debates and long discussion on at least half the items. And besides, if anyone forgot, we already have two item lists on the wiki: Items and Category:Items. The first one needs updating really really bad. (People tend to forget some of our most important pages. Like Characters) — Elcool (talk)(contribs) 05:26, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
- Minor Items is a particularly problematic article. "Item" is extremely broad. I can support something like Minor TGS Characters, as they're clearly related, but not so much minor items. If someone could come up with something less broad, that would be better (though I really don't get what's wrong with these short articles. Last time I checked, the wiki isn't paper.) Heimstern Läufer
- On the flip side, I am a fan of pages like that, while I'm *not* a fan of pages like this one. They're too short, not very interesting or informative, and it seems like overkill to have so many entire pages devoted to minor one-shot items. I think it *should* be merged. That said, I don't think "Minor X" pages are arbitrarily lumping things together at all. There's simply not much we can *say* about them, and at least from my viewpoint, it's far easier to read about them in a place where they're all conveniently together than to have to shuffle through a dozen separate one-line pages. -YK
- I'm not a fan of pages like that. They're too broad, and unnecessarily bring disparate items together into a list. I don't think this article needs merging. Heimstern Läufer
- I'm surprised there isn't already a minor items list for the tiems that pop-up in easter eggs, but I guess most of those are food. Mior foods wouldn't be too difficult to make. It's just a matter of someone actually taking the time to compile all of those items together. — Acam30
