Talk:Cold One

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Jesus crist! Cold ones aren't beer!

Okay... the page throughly explains the nature of the beverage. I'm curious to hear what your theory is. -- Tom 09:12, 19 Dec 2004 (MST)

That Cold Ones are soda. HR is a site for all ages!

It may be a site for all ages, but there have been many implications that Cold Ones (and Soy Sauce) are intoxicants.

Please stop deleting all references to alcohol on this Wiki. -- FortyTwo

H*R clearly references alcohol in Decemberween Kids' Book. And in for kids, Kerrek doesn't accpet Strong Bad's offer of a Cold One because he's teetotal, which proves it's alcohol. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

Contents 1 My Conclusion 2 Cold None? 3 Alcohol 4 Not so cold ones 5 British Preference 6 Cold Ones frist apperance?

My Conclusion

Personally, I don't believe Cold Ones are beer. I think Strong Beer is a reference to Root Beer. Also Cold One is a slang word for soda English people use. The martinis in Decemberween Kids' Book are not negetivly references because no one is drinking it. And in the Everybody to the limit and the email montage when Strongbad is holding a glass of wine, he really isn't because The Cheat just made a poorly drawn flash movie and Strong Bad was imagining him in love with the wagon fulla pancakes.

I always took the use of the word "alcoholic" on the label to mean it was beer. Seems pretty straight forward to me. And did you read the part about the Kerrek refusing a Cold One because he is a teetotaller? -- Tom 13:09, 24 Dec 2004 (MST)

That's not even the real Cold One bottle label.

Mmm hmm. But have you read the whole thing? See for yourself: Homestar Runner and Strong Bad Screensaver. -- Tom 20:16, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)

I understand the initial hesitation to declare Cold Ones as Beer, but the evidence is sufficient for us to drop the pretence. "Cold One" is a euphemism for beer, and was used by TBC to keep the site "a site for all ages". In my grade-6 class someone had written a western short story to be put on the wall before parent teacher night. In this story he used the word "beer", and the teacher was concerned that the parents may wonder what sort of class he was running, so he suggested that the guy change it to "Cold One". - Dr Haggis - Talk 20:56, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

This must be an American thing... in Australia, "beer" isn't some kind of terrible taboo. Cold Ones are clearly beer. The business about warm or room temperature Cold Ones is directly mirrored by beer in the real world. Oven warmed soda?!... Get over it already; Cold Ones = Beer. Real Beer. Geez! - SoulSkorpion (soulskorpionATiinetDOTnetDOTau).

I'm pretty sure The Cheat made the boat scene in montage. Yeah... not at all. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

Right, because TBC would never refer to something like alcohol on the site. Oh wait... Seriously, that's been on the site for years, it's even older than super powers, and it's much less "family friendly" compared to the casual references to "cold ones" on the site, yet it gets none of the controversy of "Why would TBC refer to alcohol?"... what is with you people? --phlip ^T_C 15:45, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Cold None?

Say huh-wha?! Where does this come from?-Lord Pikachon

The email. See the transcript. -- Tom 19:22, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)

Alcohol

Uhmm the screensaver says premium alcholic coldones. Parents drink beer, it can still be a family site

Not so cold ones

Isn't a not so cold one 90 degrees? if so, you can't hold it without a glove or it will burn your hand, no matter which scale you use, Farenheit, Celsius, or Kelvin won't work.

90 degrees Fahrenheit isn't anywhere near that hot... --Jay (Talk) 17:53, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

If that were true, then everyone in Florida would be dead from going out in the 90 degree (Fahrenheit) heat... Aurora the Homestar Coder 17:58, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Especially funny when one considers that average body temperature is 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit... We'd be burning OURSELVES! --Jay (Talk) 18:03, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I'm not talking out of experience, but have you tried holding a glass that is 30 °C? It's hot.

Actually, Kvb does have a point. The 90°F liquid in the not-so-cold one would warm the glass up to aneven higher temperature, and since touching a hot something physically hurts more than air at the same temperature, the glass would get rather hot to handle. Most hot-chocolate/coffee is actually only 70°F when someone goes to drink it, and feel how hot that drink nwould make a mug. -- _{Posted by:} -erson ^Talk 18:13, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

No, it wouldn't. Convection doesn't work like that - 90°F objects can only heat things up to 90°F (actually less, since the 90°F object would be cooled down in the process.) What's more, try putting your finger inside your mouth. Unless you were JUST drinking something cold or you're very sick, the inside of your mouth is approximately 98.6°F. Does it burn? I sure as heck hope not. Anyway, I have come to understand that coffee is usually made around 120°F (give or take, I'm going from memory here.) --Jay (Talk) 18:20, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Nope, I was wrong. It's not usually served at 120 degrees - it's usually served at 135-140 degrees. --Jay (Talk) 18:27, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I see where I went wrong. I was thinking in Celcius, but saying fahrenheit. Ok, than Kvb is wrong. (I'm going to talk in Celcius since I'm canadian and I work with it more). Say the equivlant of 90°F is 30°C. If you leave a bottle of beer outside during 30°C weather, eventually the beer will warm up to the same temperature (actually, less since beer has a higher density thus will allow less heat to be caught). But, the beer will not burn you're skin if you get in on yourself. Thus, asusming that TBC work with fahrenheit since they are american, the beer would not be scorching. Oh, and coffee is innitally prepared at 100°C, but by the time it is finished being prepared, served (considering iot sat for a bit), and actually drank, the temperature would decrease to about 70°C, and that still burns.-- _{Posted by:} -erson ^Talk 18:40, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

For comparison, the coffee cited as too hot in the McDonald's coffee lawsuit was 180 degrees Fahrenheit. Steamed milk at Starbucks is between 150-170 degrees Fahrenheit. Hot, hot, hot! Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:37, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

And that's about how hot it needs to get before burns are feasible. Spas, for instance, revolve around the whole concept of immersing your WHOLE BODY in water that is over 100°F, and nobody is scalded by properly-functioning spas. I think you're hung up on objects that have been sitting in the sun too long - these are MUCH hotter than the surrounding air because of the heat they've absorbed from the sunlight, but they cool down slower than air (something that's been sitting in the shade all day on a hot day will not be all that hot, will it? It may have been heated by the air, but not by sunlight.) And, BTW, isn't this a very silly argument for the H*R Wiki? --Jay (Talk) 18:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'm just going to slip out og this convo as I cannot convert Fahrenheit to Celsius...-- _{Posted by:} -erson ^Talk 18:40, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

For reference:

32°F = 0°C (freezing point of water)

70°F = 21.1°C (no burns - not even THAT hot)

90°F = 32.2°C (no burns)

98.6°F = 37°C (normal body temperature)

100°F = 37.8°C (no burns)

150°F = 65.6°C (burns may be possible, but nothing severe)

180°F = 82.2°C (severe burns possible)

212°F = 100°C (boiling point of water) --Jay (Talk) 18:52, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

So, if TBC are talking Fahrenheit, than it wouldn't burn. But it would really scorch if they were speaking in Celsius.-- _{Posted by:} -erson ^Talk 16:21, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hehehehe, a silly argument for the H*R Wiki? In my opinion, no place should be safe from nerdery and overanalysis! :) (currently drinking a COLD one... ok, actually a cold iced latte, 'cause beer is yuck!) Aurora the Homestar Coder 19:39, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Anyways, there is no real reason for TBC to be speaking in Celsius, as they come from Georgia, a state in a country where Farenheit is used almost exclusively. -Ariamaki 17:16, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

British Preference

As a Brit, I'm don't think the inference that the British prefer beer served at room temperature is correct. It may be derived from the fact that heavy beers were traditionally served retaining the natural warmth accumulated during the brewing process, but I have never seen this observed anywhere today, certainly not in pubs and nor is this convention unique to Britain. Moreover, Guiness, arguably the most famous brand of heavy beer, comes in an 'Extra-cold' variety (I'm not awrae if this is available in other countries). Judging by colour, Cold-Ones appear to be larger-type beer and I should point out that larger has always been served chilled in Britain. As evdence of what I'm disputing, I would refer to the film 'Shaun of the Dead', which is regarded by many as depicting very typical British attitudes. At one point, a character apologises to the protaganist that his beer (which is a heavy beer) may be warm as the power to the coolers has been cut off. At the very least, the article should be edited to point out that this alleged preference is a perceived notion rather than an accurate observation. -Grover Junior

Since no-one seems to be responding to my point either here or on the forum, I've gone ahead and edited the article -Grover Junior

Perfectly fine, GJ. Also, just for accuracies sake, I am going to remiund people that you ment LAGER, not LARGER... Althouh those bottles are pretty darn big. -Ariamaki 17:17, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Strong Bad just doesn't like the English, and he is just makin' fun of them. Rogue Leader / (my talk)

Cold Ones frist apperance?

Didn't cold ones apper in the "wheres my hat" kids book. And I belive that that was made before the email labor day?User:pieinbubsface/sig 02:05, 3 December 2005 (UTC)