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[edit] Closed STUFF votes

[edit] A legendary voice, you screech?

Skip to the end of this section for how this was concluded.

The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

  • Decline. I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- ISlayedTheKerrek 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --Jay 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --Trogga 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Un-second Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a PARODY, when the fun-fact-adder said reference? Cheatachu72 Apr 2005
  • Decline. I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- tomstiff 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --Jay 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so Decline. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? Donny vs Universe
    • Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- tomstiff 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Acceptinated! But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
  • Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. ISlayedTheKerrek 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • ACCEPT. This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a very distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. Chris Latta gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is clearly mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — It's dot com 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- tomstiff 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more interwiki links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, I did. — IDC 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
        • But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the CHARACTER not the guy doing the voice. Donny vs Universe
  • ACCEPTED! For reasons already stated. -- Homsar999ß 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)
  • My first-ever accept. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. Rudeboy87 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Arrgh!! You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. Donny vs Universe
    • I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. ISlayedTheKerrek 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Right On! -- tomstiff 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
        • Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the Blue Laser Commander voice? Parody. Cheatachu72 Apr 2005
  • Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
  • Does THAT work? --Jay 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. still decline All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. Donny vs Universe
      • Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --Jay 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. Donny vs Universe
        • Fair enough Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --Jay 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
          • I agree with this. — It's dot com 22:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • No special comment this time, just Accept Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---the spludge 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • You're missing the point!! We already know that it's based on G.I. Joe! The whole point is that Matt is imitating the voice of Cobra Commander, but not his voice actor. Accepting this fact is like saying "If you imitate the voice of Homestar, then you are imitating/referencing/making-fun-of Matt Chapman because he is the voice actor." If three other people add to my Decline, we can get The Eggman to close this fact and put it out of its misery. --homestar3.14 14:44, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Awxome Axept TK600 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)


Summary:
  • In the above, there are 8 Accepts and 5 Declines.
  • Of the 5 Declines, at least 3 of them agree with the Accepts that TBC are referencing the voice of Cobra Commander, if not Chris Latta in particular.
  • Jay and Dot com are willing to withdraw their support for including the voice actor's name as long as the basic fact stays.

Therefore:

Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander (the Cheat Commandos are a takeoff of G.I.Joe), especially the following traits:
  • His partially obscured face covering some kind of blemish
  • His uniform that is similar yet distinct from his henchmen
  • His screechy voice
  • His volatile, psychotic temperament

It's dot com 22:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Skull deformity?

Would someone kindly tell me where they got the pic of his skull deformity? I'm looking around in the toons and can't find it. Thanks :) CoveredinSuudzu 03:47, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

The description of Image:Physiology of Blue Laser Commander.PNG says it's from Blue Laserdisc ChallengeLoafing 03:50, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Thank you kindly :) CoveredinSuudzu 14:31, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article Names

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think this character has ever actually been referred to as "Blue Laser Commander" anywhere on the website, and the fact that he runs an organization called "Blue Laser" has only really been hinted at. Would anyone else support moving this article to "Blue Laser" and the "Blue Laser" article to "Blue laser Organization"? Or maybe just merging the articles? Omnisweater 01:58, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I think you're right. This character as an individual is often referred to explicitly as "Blue Laser", and I don't think the name "Blue Laser" is ever used unambiguously to refer to the organization. 76.99.62.167 02:47, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Well...
Take control of Blue Laser Commander by mashing left or right on your laserdisc remote [...] Blue_Laserdisc_Challenge, Everything Else, Volume 2
Sometimes "Blue Laser" is used referring to the leader, but in other cases it is clearly referring to the group as a whole (with the pronoun "they" being used along with it), and at least once one of the minions has been called "the Blue Laser". That said, in most cases it really is ambiguous, but the current terms on the wiki aren't at all wrong, and they are clear. I don't think moving the articles around would improve anything.  Green Helmet 03:29, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
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