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This should be copied into Minor teen girl squad characters. Am I wrong? [[User:Sharp|Sharp]]
This should be copied into Minor teen girl squad characters. Am I wrong? [[User:Sharp|Sharp]]
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Stronhg Bad does have something against birds. TGS and bottom 10.
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Strong Bad does have something against birds. TGS and bottom 10.
"Um....not pigeons." [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
"Um....not pigeons." [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
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:::After posting, I realize the flaw in the [[Robots]] analogy. I suppose I could buy an argument for "The Birds" to be listed in the list of "Birds" rather than a "See Also" and linked there, as the "Fat Bluebird" and other birds with their own pages already are. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:14, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
:::After posting, I realize the flaw in the [[Robots]] analogy. I suppose I could buy an argument for "The Birds" to be listed in the list of "Birds" rather than a "See Also" and linked there, as the "Fat Bluebird" and other birds with their own pages already are. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:14, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
::::My vote: I think it's okay to either (1) have a separate page and link it here (as Qermaq has just suggested), or (2) to incorporate them into this page entirely.  But it ''do'' think we should rename them to "Teen Girl Squad Birds" to remove ambiguity. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 12:16, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
::::My vote: I think it's okay to either (1) have a separate page and link it here (as Qermaq has just suggested), or (2) to incorporate them into this page entirely.  But it ''do'' think we should rename them to "Teen Girl Squad Birds" to remove ambiguity. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 12:16, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
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:::::I think that a rename is in order, but not a merge. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 13:14, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
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:So should I change the {{t|merge}} template to a {{t|redirect}} one? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:11, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
:So should I change the {{t|merge}} template to a {{t|redirect}} one? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:11, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
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::Well since we decided not to merge them together, I think we should change the template. --[[User:Jeppo|Jeppo]] 12:39, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
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:I vote for "Teen Girl Squad Birds" as the new title. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 12:18, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
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:: I think '''The Birds (TGS)''' is better since 'The Birds' are characters and it won't be confused with the '''Birds''' page. --[[User:Jeppo|Jeppo]] 12:39, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
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:::How about just "Birds (Teen Girl Squad)"? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:05, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
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::::How about we just stick with The Birds (TGS)? Its perfect. So lets move this than.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 04:45, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
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== Move? (again) ==
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Per [[Talk:Fangs (Teen Girl Squad)#Naming_convention]] I'd like to reiterate my support for moving this page to [[Birds in Teen Girl Squad]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:38, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
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:I agree. And looking at my comments in above sections, I'm pleasantly surprised to see that my thoughts are (more or less) the same as they were a year ago :D {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:40, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
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::Heh, I kinda find that amusing. I support '''moving''' to "Birds in Teen Girl Squad". {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 04:54, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
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== Bird from TGS 14 ==
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I don't think that the dead finch in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 14]] counts as one of the same kind of birds as in TGS 1, 2, 3, and 5. The birds from those issues are all drawn as two curved lines and get killed in the issue in some random way. Plus, that gag seemed to stop after the early issues. Anyone else agree? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 21:23, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
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:It's a dead bird, so it belongs here. --[[User:Kingdom Stars|Kingdom Stars]] 23:55, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

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[edit] This page's worth

This should be copied into Minor teen girl squad characters. Am I wrong? Sharp

THIS SHOULD NOT BE DELETED! THE BIRDS ARE ALREADY ABUSED!

No, it should not be deleted, the birds are obviously a running gag and extremely funny!CM 03:59, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)CM

Ah, the poor birds. Leave them be. --The Smoking Monkey 15:26, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

This page shouldn't be deleted. These birds have been killed in 3 or 4 issues. That is a lot more than any other character has appeared in TGS. Rogue Leader / (my talk) 15:31, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Well, not any other character (Cheerleader! So and So! The Arrow'd Guy!!!) --Jay (Talk) 15:33, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

My bad. These have appeared much more than anymore "Minor charactrers". Rogue Leader / (my talk) 15:34, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I know; I just felt like being contrary. ;) --Jay (Talk) 15:35, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Should we take the deletion tags off now? - Joshua

Well I assume you did, 'cause it don't have 'em now. Good. I like these birds. — talk Bubsty edits 22:30, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

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Strong Bad does have something against birds. TGS and bottom 10.

"Um....not pigeons." Cheatachu72

In bottom 10 he said he didn't like not pigeons. That means he likes pigeons, or at least is ok with them. — talk Bubsty edits 00:53, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
But listen to how he said it. "Um...not...pigeons." Very hesitant, as if he's trying to hide something. Remember the "Nope. Definetly not Speedo." from other days? Maybe he's trying to hide his fear of birds like he hid the fact that he wears a Speedo! - Has Matt? 05:08, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Both sentiments have been expressed before. But no, the addition of "funny stuff" makes it clear that he does like them (probably due to their rebellious, quasi-"bad-guy" tendency to take craps on people). The hesitancy is primarily due to the fact that this is supposed to be a list of things he doesn't like. It's almost like he couldn't think of anything for a second and had to throw in something he does like, in negative. Additionally it could be a reluctance to be associated with the image of pigeon-enthusiast, made famous by Sesame Street's Bert. Bert is everything SB doesn't want to be. —AbdiViklas 05:17, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Merge?

I think this could be merged with Birds. --Garfunkel 20:49, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Nah, I don't think so... This is a common TGS character/running gag and deserves its own page. --DorianGray
Let's rethink this. "The Birds" is not the canonical name of the character. No one would look up "The Birds" to find this and only this page. It seems to me it makes a whole heckofa lotta sense for this to be on the Birds page. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 21:31, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I think it should be mentioned in birds and linked to The Birds. I don't think it should be merged though. 'Birds' is an appearances page. 'The birds' put the Teen Girl Squad birds in more depth. Also as a side note if we don't merge it, to avoid confusion I think we should change the title from 'The Birds' to 'Teen Girl Squad Birds' or something like that --Jeppo 22:02, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I agree with Jeppo. A rename, not a merge, is in order here. --DorianGray
I also agree with Jeppo. - Maggot Man (talk) 22:05, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I third agree with Jeppo. Keep 'em seperate. --The_homestrongzipansadcheatsmith2.PNG Tlk/Cnt 02:32, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
I don't know about a name change, but keep them seperate. Although people might not search for "The Birds", it's linked to from the templated on the bottom of every TGS. Also, I'll put a disambig template on the top of Birds. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 05:38, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it's a TGS "character". And yes, they appear in four episodes. There remains no reason they cannot be a section of "Birds" and be linked to thru the template there. They are birds, after all, and just as we don't have separate pages for the variety of stages and knives in the H*R universe, there's no reason for a separate page for this particular instance of birds - which, I might reiterate, was never called "The Birds" by anyone but the author of this article. Then there's no need for disambiguation. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 05:50, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but stages and knifes are not sentiant entities. Can you give me one clear example of a character being marged into a larger, non-character article? And if we're marging this article, why not Fat Bluebird? Elcool (talk)(contribs) 05:54, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
"The Birds" is a major stretch of the term "character". They are scenery in the four episodes cited, not even relevant to the plot but rather to Strong Bad's obsession with juvenile violent imagery. So an analogous merge might be Robots. And I would support the incorporation of the Fat Bluebird info into Birds as well. Despite being among Mike's favorites, there's hardly anything special about it. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 09:11, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
After posting, I realize the flaw in the Robots analogy. I suppose I could buy an argument for "The Birds" to be listed in the list of "Birds" rather than a "See Also" and linked there, as the "Fat Bluebird" and other birds with their own pages already are. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 09:14, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
My vote: I think it's okay to either (1) have a separate page and link it here (as Qermaq has just suggested), or (2) to incorporate them into this page entirely. But it do think we should rename them to "Teen Girl Squad Birds" to remove ambiguity. Trey56 12:16, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
I think that a rename is in order, but not a merge. Rogue Leader / (my talk) 13:14, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move?

Proposing moving this article to The Birds (TGS). Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 09:15, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

So should I change the {{merge}} template to a {{redirect}} one? Elcool (talk)(contribs) 10:11, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Well since we decided not to merge them together, I think we should change the template. --Jeppo 12:39, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
I vote for "Teen Girl Squad Birds" as the new title. Trey56 12:18, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
I think The Birds (TGS) is better since 'The Birds' are characters and it won't be confused with the Birds page. --Jeppo 12:39, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
How about just "Birds (Teen Girl Squad)"? Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 17:05, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
How about we just stick with The Birds (TGS)? Its perfect. So lets move this than.--H*Bad 04:45, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move? (again)

Per Talk:Fangs (Teen Girl Squad)#Naming_convention I'd like to reiterate my support for moving this page to Birds in Teen Girl Squad. --Stux 04:38, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree. And looking at my comments in above sections, I'm pleasantly surprised to see that my thoughts are (more or less) the same as they were a year ago :D Trey56 04:40, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Heh, I kinda find that amusing. I support moving to "Birds in Teen Girl Squad". Has Matt? (talk) 04:54, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bird from TGS 14

I don't think that the dead finch in Teen Girl Squad Issue 14 counts as one of the same kind of birds as in TGS 1, 2, 3, and 5. The birds from those issues are all drawn as two curved lines and get killed in the issue in some random way. Plus, that gag seemed to stop after the early issues. Anyone else agree? Homestar-Winner (talk) 21:23, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

It's a dead bird, so it belongs here. --Kingdom Stars 23:55, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
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